Those two -- linebacker Nick Barnett and tight end Jermichael Finley -- were among eight players Packers coach Mike McCarthy mentioned as having injuries that could keep them out of Sunday's game against the Dolphins.
McCarthy sounded more like a medic than a football coach when he addressed reporters Monday.
"I'll start with the medical report," McCarthy said. "Nick Barnett is scheduled for surgery on Wednesday, and after that surgery is completed, we'll have a time frame for Nick. Jermichael Finley, with his knee, he's scheduled for surgery in the morning, and same as Nick's situation, we'll have a time frame after the surgery is completed there.
"Donald Lee has a chest sprain, so he may be a couple weeks. Derrick Martin has a knee sprain. Mark Tauscher is gathering more information on his situation, so don't know where he stands yet for this week. Clay Matthews' hamstring strain, it was positive in his meeting with the doctor this morning. It was not as severe as the first time is the information I was given. Ryan Pickett has an ankle sprain. I don't really have a time frame yet on Ryan. Aaron Rodgers has a concussion and he at a minimum will miss some time this week."
McCarthy ended his laundry list of injuries by saying, "Brandon Chillar is to start trial practice this week, so that's some positive news."
Positive news on the injury front has been rare for the Packers this season.