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April 21, 2010 11:56 AM PDT

Buggy McAfee update whacks Windows XP PCs

by Declan McCullagh
(Credit: McAfee)

McAfee's popular antivirus software failed spectacularly on Wednesday, causing tens of thousands of Windows XP computers to crash or repeatedly reboot.

A buggy update that the company released early in the day turned the software's formidable defenses against malicious software inward, prompting it to attack a vital component of Microsoft Windows. The update was available for business customers for about four hours before distribution was halted, McAfee said.

The damage was widespread: the University of Michigan's medical school reported that 8,000 of its 25,000 computers crashed. Police in Lexington, Ky., resorted to hand-writing reports and turned off their patrol car terminals as a precaution. Some jails canceled visitation, and Rhode Island hospitals turned away non-trauma patients at emergency rooms and postponed some elective surgeries.

Intel was also hit by McAfee's bungled update, a source inside the company confirmed to CNET. The source said that all Intel's computers inside the United States ran McAfee and many were affected but didn't know how many or whether it impacted the company's factories.

The update released at 6 a.m. PT effectively redirected the PC's immune system, causing it to attack a legitimate operating system component known as SVCHOST.EXE in the same way that some diseases can cause the human immune system to turn inward. In this case, McAfee's application incorrectly confused it with malware known as the W32/Wecorl.a virus.

McAfee apologized to customers for the problem, which seemed to affect primarily Windows XP computers running Microsoft's Service Pack 3, but downplayed its impact. "We are not aware of significant impact on consumers," the company said in a statement sent to CNET at 2 p.m. PT.

Screen snapshot of CNET News editor's computer in Portland after McAfee was causing her computer to reboot.

(Credit: CNET)

That didn't endear the company to the enterprise users who were the most affected by the update, especially system administrators who were forced to trek from computer to computer and manually install the repair that McAfee had made available by midday. It's not clear how many customers were affected, and a McAfee representative said she did not have an update. (Here's a related CNET article on how to fix your McAfee-crippled PC.)

Tech-related mailing lists soon began buzzing with complaints. And the condemnation on Twitter was unrelenting, with Sonny Hashmi, the deputy chief information officer of the District of Columbia, calling it a "huge disruption," adding that McAfee is now on his "blacklist." An engineer in San Francisco said that, thanks to McAfee, "the wait at my work is two days and growing to get your laptop back." Others complained that, approximately six hours after the problem was known, McAfee has yet to post a note on the home page--which currently boasts of "technology to supercharge your network security."

A CNET editor in Portland, Ore., was affected Wednesday morning when the update caused her computer to lose network and Internet connections and McAfee prevented her from launching programs or uninstalling it.

A report at the Internet Storm Center said the errant McAfee update registered a false positive that flagged the Windows file SVCHOST.EXE as a virus.

Compounding what seems to be a day of snafus for the Santa Clara, Calif.-based company was its initial recommendation that users encountering the problem download a file from a McAfee support site. But after tens of thousands of irate users flooded into the forums, the site abruptly went offline and began to return an error message.

McAfee has posted a Web page on a separate site with detailed instructions on how to fix XP computers that have been crashing because of Wednesday's update. It recommends manually downloading and installing an "EXTRA.DAT" file and then restore files that have been incorrectly quarantined.

But that option requires a least a modest amount of technical ability, and as of 4 p.m. PDT, the company had not offered a better way. "McAfee is continuing to work on an automated solution," the page said.

Last update 10:20 p.m. PT: McAfee has posted a statement saying that the problem affected "one half of 1 percent of our enterprise accounts globally and a fraction of that" among home users. Another post from Barry McPherson, executive vice president for customer service, apologizes for the snafu and says: "Mistakes happen. No excuses." And it looks like the company has posted some more details about how SVCHOST.EXE was targeted.

Declan McCullagh has covered the intersection of politics and technology for over a decade. E-mail Declan.
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by Random_Walk April 21, 2010 12:23 PM PDT
I can comfortably predict that the following phrases will be used, in some form or fashion:

* Suck it down, WinTards! My {Mac || Linux Box} rocks!
* ha-ha! I have (insert some other A/V solution here)!
* What? I've used Windows for full geological eons without A/V, and I've NEVER, EVER been infected! Ever!
* Upgrade to Windows 7! It's great! It rocks! (or some variation of "please spend your money and bolster Microsoft's bottom line so we have some bragging points come the next fiscal quarter... please?")
* (I will save this article, then use it to blame anyone but Microsoft whenever Microsoft itself screws the pooch in some programmatic or performance fashion).

Cheers!
*
Reply to this comment 21 people like this comment
by johnqh April 21, 2010 12:32 PM PDT
You missed mine: "Anti-virus is more damaging than virus".
5 people like this comment
by solitare_pax April 21, 2010 12:35 PM PDT
I do believe you hit all the high points except:

* Why should I care that my Windows machine is down/dead? I get paid by the hour sitting at a malfunctioning machine doing nothing productive! HAHAHAHA!
8 people like this comment
by jbcahill April 21, 2010 12:44 PM PDT
WOW...yer like some genius or somethin'.....not
3 people like this comment
by dadsgravy April 21, 2010 12:56 PM PDT
My mac rocks!<br /><br />Except for the part with the flickering screen, the dead battery, the airport that keeps dropping connection, the cpu wine and the discolored case. But other than that...

[CNET editor's note: Offensive content deleted]
11 people like this comment
by Angmarr April 21, 2010 1:09 PM PDT
yep
Avast + upgrade from XP
2 people like this comment
by peterbutler April 21, 2010 1:26 PM PDT
I'm not sure it's worth upgrading from XP, but Windows 7 *is* pretty good.
5 people like this comment
by Lerianis4 April 21, 2010 2:08 PM PDT
johnqh, no, anti-virus is NOT more damaging than viruses. Some viruses can totally WIPE YOUR DAMNED MACHINE!
by kojacked April 21, 2010 3:12 PM PDT
You forgot one:

I will save this article, then use it to blame, smear or otherwise promote FUD against Microsoft whenever Microsoft does something good and I want to cast doubt. I must preserve my prediction at all costs that Microsoft is on the downhill slide to irrelevancy.
1 person likes this comment
by slapppy April 21, 2010 4:15 PM PDT
FAIL! Wow that is a massive Microsoft TAX hit. Unlike the FUD that about the Apple Tax, Microsoft provides real world erxamples! hahahahahaha!!!!!!
3 people like this comment
by Yelonde April 21, 2010 5:54 PM PDT
Wow. You nailed like, every point dead on. My work here is done.
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by WinNoMo April 21, 2010 12:24 PM PDT
Job security
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by aMUSICsite April 22, 2010 2:38 AM PDT
I ended up telling my IT department what the problem was after they spent 1/2 an hour trying to work out why the couple of XP machines we had were not working.

As a web developer it's not really my job to do the IT work but part of my job specs is to make sure the website is secure, so I obviously keep track what's happening.

Can you believe they had the cheek to say "how the hell did you know when I didn't" - I think I should have asked that question in reverse.
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by MadLyb April 21, 2010 12:30 PM PDT
False positive...

What a contrived way to say that the machine automatically reboots 60 seconds after login over and over and over.

Evidently, McAfee has decided not regression test on Windows XP anymore.

They need to tell the lawyers to go stuff themselves, drop the spin, admit they royally screwed up, and then bend over backwards to correct. Otherwise, I am sure there will be several Enterprise customers shopping for a new A/V solution by Monday.
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by dbagpiper April 21, 2010 12:58 PM PDT
Not that cnet would report anything useful in this respect so allow me: shop around! With Norton, McAfee and occasionally Panda having a terrible record for this kind of thing; you'd do well to try the others that are not so touted such as Kaspersky, AVG, etc.. Stay away from computer associates as well... they're as sneaky as they are damaging.
by Lerianis4 April 21, 2010 3:08 PM PDT
Kaspersky has too many false positives, so does AVG. Norton is the ONLY reliable thing anymore, I have not heard of one instance in the past 3 years where something like this happened to Norton.
by EdCenter April 21, 2010 3:11 PM PDT
If it weren't for CNet's Download.com, I don't think I would've ever heard about AVG or Avast. Just saying, CNet deserves some kudos when it comes to delivering anti-virus.
by hawkeyeaz1 April 22, 2010 1:30 PM PDT
False positive would be correct from what the article states. McAfee IDs svchost.exe as malware, quarantines it, and Windows kernel panics. A reboot happens, Windows kernel panics, forces reboot.

Vicious cycle.
by gefitz April 21, 2010 12:37 PM PDT
Wow, people actually still pay McAfee for their garbage? Been running free anti-virus tools at home, and enterprise products that are lightweight and inexpensive at work, for years.
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by cassio1 April 21, 2010 2:19 PM PDT
which antivirus do you run on the enterprise? Drop names now.

--Sam
by XiroMisho April 21, 2010 3:51 PM PDT
NOD32 Enterprise - best for larger networks.
by bananaphonerules April 21, 2010 4:35 PM PDT
@Cassio1

Kaseya is quite good as part of a managed services offering.
Forefront is good too (scanning engine is better and better...and unobtrusive)
by gefitz April 21, 2010 10:58 PM PDT
Trend Micro. Avast. AVG. All of these offer nice licensing and a lightweight product that can be finely tuned for the enterprise. I can't think of any circumstances in recent memory where these products have disabled base operating system components.

At least, if these products ever do something as asinine as what McAfee does on a nearly-yearly basis, you won't have been paying through the nose for it.
by mb99 April 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT
This appears to me to be the result of total irresponsibility on the part of McAffe. EVERY Windows system has this file! Don't they run their updates thru a test bed before releasing them to the public? UNREAL!!!
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by cdotspace April 21, 2010 1:06 PM PDT
I was thinking the same thing, svchost.exe has been a round for a long time. This was a totally irresponsible error.
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by sflocal April 21, 2010 11:20 PM PDT
One has to wonder if this was a deliberate act by a disgruntled employee at McAfee that decided to leave a present at the door before he left.
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by woowoospark April 21, 2010 12:50 PM PDT
An apology for 40 staffers not working for 4 hours each? How about some refunds...
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by dbagpiper April 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT
Buggy my @$$! It just brought down my whole company (a major chip manufacturer)! A prompt appears that forces restart after 60 seconds... and it repeats indefinately. Thats not a false positive, that is the very definition of a virus and McAfee spread it!
On my personal PCs, I stopped getting viruses and losing data when I stopped using McAfee and Norton 10 years ago (oddly, the two most touted AV programs by internet forums that know nothing about how to rate a product... eh hem... nudge nudge...).
I hope my company holds McAfee financially liable and learns which websites consider historical results instead of under-the-table-payoffs in their reviews of such software. I know... maybe we need another iPad article, that should fix everything...
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by master_mind413 April 21, 2010 2:51 PM PDT
a major chip manufacture runs McAfee ? now thats irresponsible come on now
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by sharmajunior April 21, 2010 7:49 PM PDT
LOL...
by Ilgaz April 22, 2010 3:26 AM PDT
@master_mind blame the other vendors who doesn't provide enterprise scale support. Avast is great eh? Try to manage it on 10.000 different terminals for example.

I can't blame anyone using Sophos, MCafee or Trend. They don't have choice even.
by csturdivant April 22, 2010 6:16 AM PDT
master_mind413, he only said a major chip manufacture, not what kind of chips. my money is on Frito-Lays.
by douggdangger April 21, 2010 12:57 PM PDT
yawn.
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by MadLyb April 21, 2010 1:01 PM PDT
I felt a great disturbance on the 'Net, as if millions of XP machines suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
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by dbagpiper April 21, 2010 1:07 PM PDT
Hehehe... very good!
by aegierke April 21, 2010 2:46 PM PDT
That was so freaking funny, I stole it for my status! Thanks for the laugh- I was one of the 'victims' today. None of instructions from McAfee mention anything about how to paste the DAT file onto your system if your system refuses to let you move, open or paste files. Duh. :P
by waxedpants April 21, 2010 4:13 PM PDT
hahahahahahahahaha
awesome
by pSYeNCe1 April 21, 2010 7:23 PM PDT
This is amazing, I stole it for my status too XD
by Instigator-Jones April 22, 2010 5:10 PM PDT
Well said Sir/Madam, yours shall be the quote of the year. I think I just pee'd myself laughing so hard.
by chrispix99 April 21, 2010 1:04 PM PDT
1) Don't reboot anything
2) Go and delete the dat file from epo
3) Force update the 5959 DAT (can be done from dashboard)
4) Select all systems, and force a SuperWakeup once the 5959 dat has been downloaded That should start pushing out the dat... Hopefully it fixes everything.
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by tom_coli April 21, 2010 8:30 PM PDT
I fix mine by unplug internet cable while it rebooting. It start up ok then I double click at M to run Mcafee then before I click update I plug internet cable back in. It updated to 5959 and it seem to work fine (for now).
by dinkeldorf April 21, 2010 1:13 PM PDT
This straight shouldn't happen. Which McA dude signed off on the test plan for this release? Which McA CAB approved this change?
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by OniOokamiAlfador April 21, 2010 1:15 PM PDT
You can temporarily get around the restarts by typing "shutdown -a" in the "run" box in the start menu (or get to it by pressing [windows key]+[r]). It should stave off the restart for a while. Booting up in safe mode with networking also seems to allow basic work.

My major concern would be how to smoothly restore machines that have already been affected back to full functioning.

This isn't the first time this has happened. AV developers are getting sloppy lately. Unacceptable. Yes scanners need to look at and ocassionally deal with infections in win32.dll and svchost but any act that may affect those files should be THOROUGHLY tested through QA before release.
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by adfrad April 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT
Um, we had this impact 20+ machines before we worked out what was wrong.

I wrote up some removal instructions here:

http://www.adfrad.com/2010/04/fixing-mcafee-w32wecorla-false-alerts.html

Good luck eveyone!
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by AluminumMonster April 21, 2010 2:10 PM PDT
Windows came into my house as a child and murdered my family and stole my innocence.
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by Eiskalt87 April 21, 2010 2:14 PM PDT
I work for a company called Teletech, and it shut down our entire site. One reason why I have NEVER used McAfee for my own personal computers. :/
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by redwall_hp April 21, 2010 2:19 PM PDT
It's also been throwing-out false positives for other things lately, as well. It keeps quarantining an FTP client and a game development tool, and there's no way to tell it to "trust" an application. It's mistaking them as the "Artemis!xxxxx" trojan.
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by fixitnow123 April 21, 2010 2:43 PM PDT
the way we fixed it today was:
by copying svchost from a good xp computer and pasting into the "damaged one"
then deleting the avv files from c:\program files \common files\mcaffee\engine(shift delete)
that was for the first set of problem computers.

the other set we fixed by grabbing the extra.dot file from mcaffee website and pasting it into c:\program files \common files\mcaffee\engine

(my back hurts) and my head!
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by Mr_fleabite April 21, 2010 3:34 PM PDT
your back hurts? you didn't have a hot pocket did you?!
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by jameslg2169 April 21, 2010 2:47 PM PDT
and some anti-virus can take down your machine... as proven by this... haha
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by Lerianis4 April 21, 2010 3:10 PM PDT
So can viruses..... which is worse, the anti-virus that only deletes ONE file, or the virus that wipes our whole machine?
by jameslg2169 April 25, 2010 10:56 PM PDT
In the last 5 years as an IT professional, not to mention the years of actually using a computer before that, i have never come across a virus, either that I have gotten or had one of my users get, that wiped everything... so in my mind, they might as well be the same thing... lol
by April 21, 2010 2:50 PM PDT
Just got back from tending to this issue.
My fix on each pc after rolling back dat update in EPO and stopping repository scheduled pulls...
1) Restart into safe mode command prompt.
2) Navigate (cd) to c:\program files\common files\mcafee\engine\oldengine
3) copy av*.dat ..
4) Navigate to windows directory
5) copy svchost.exe from the %windir%\ServicePackFiles\i386 to %windir%\system32
6) reboot
Now, I'm waiting for McAfee for a reasonable explanation for how this happened, and why I should renew my company's grant.
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by mjm01010101 April 21, 2010 2:58 PM PDT
To the dude in 1997 I was arguing about with about how truly crappy mcaffee is: I told you so.
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