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9 April 2010

Victoria Police station a mobile caravan near the scene of the stabbing murder in Melbourne of Indian graduate Nitin Garg. (Joe Castro/AAP)

Profiling a racist Australia

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Jacinda Woodhead

Jacinda Woodhead

Australia is not a racist country. We are comforted by this mantra every time we turn on the radio or television or happen upon a column by say, Piers Ackerman.

Whenever Julia Gillard speaks on such subjects, we are reassured that Australians are an "open and generous people" who "repudiate racism wherever we see it" - and we have a good "sense of humour" as well.

Australia is not a racist nation, we are told, and we should believe it because, well, everyone says it.

The image of Australia as an egalitarian paradise where everyone is welcome to spend eternity cavorting on a sun-drenched beach is the image Australia presents to the world, and there's a new $4 million advertising campaign to promote this ideal: "There's nothing like Australia".

Listening to politicians Kevin "the business of what works" Rudd, Tony "Muslim integration is a serious issue" Abbott, Julia "deeply offensive" Gillard or Barnaby "send the Oceanic Viking back to Colombo" Joyce, we could be excused for laboring under the misapprehension, like our politicians, that Australia is an Anglo Celtic country.

Because there are people who still regard Australia as an Anglo Celtic country, despite around 200 years of Chinese Australians, Afghan Australians, African Australians, and 60,000 years of Indigenous Australians.

Australia is not a racist nation, we are told. It is some other, hard-to-define reason that explains why Australian institutions - the government, the police, immigration, the media - appear to not only devour the 'racial and cultural divides' invective, but also promulgate it.

Last month we learned that at least 100 members of the Victoria Police are being investigated over the workplace circulation of a series of emails graphically depicting "an ethnic man being tortured".

We cannot know the "ethnic" identity of this man, or what takes place, but the chief commissioner of Victoria Police, Simon Overland, guarantees the emails are "extremely serious", "offensive", and in his view "would cause significant concern and alarm in the community if the material was made public".

Overland made clear that although the material was pornographic and racist, it wasn't technically a crime because the emails didn't involve child pornography.

This is a shameful turn of events that comes 10 days after a report from the Springvale Monash Legal Service revealed "there was a culture of discrimination within the Victoria Police" resulting in racial profiling, targeting, harassment and abuse of youths of recognisably African ethnicities.

Claims against police included beating and kicking a young African who was handcuffed on the ground, threatening sexual violence, threatening to kill, excessive batoning, punching a person during an interview until he lost consciousness, using capsicum spray as punishment, desecrating a copy of the Koran during a raid by throwing it on the ground and calling it "shit", and punching a person in the eye with a torch, causing permanent eye damage.

The report concludes that the "the pattern and scale of reports of abuses indicated dangerous, institutional and systemic failures" and that previous complaints had not resulted "in the discipline or punishment of any police".

Revelations about the racist core of the Victoria Police come only two months after the murder of Nitin Garg and the denial that there was anything akin to racism, and racism as a motivating factor in crime, on Australian soil.

How did we move so quickly from utter refusal to acknowledge the existence of racism to the discovery that the Victoria Police is riddled with the kind of racism that has moved into action - the removal of identifying uniforms and badges when assaulting children?

A reasonable question when faced with this incursion of racism onto Australian soil may be: who is accountable? The dismissal of one or two officers responsible for introducing the racist torture-porn email into the Victoria Police workforce will not resolve anything because of the systemic nature of racism within the police force, and within Australian institutions.

If and when these officers are rooted out, it won't change the factors that allowed the racist culture of the police to develop in the first place. We need an explanation as to the processes that allowed so many racist police to be active for so long, and why no-one noticed earlier.

Without transparency on these issues, how do we know who has been held accountable and what has changed to prevent this racism from taking root again? We can't trust that it will be Victorian Police chief Simon Overland, who when he takes bullets onto a plane, an otherwise jailable offence, is excused while the airport screener is suspended.

But there's more. The Age newspaper has reported that three Tamil men facing imprisonment for supplying funds to the LTTE pleaded guilty to lesser charges and were released. The officers involved were castigated by the Supreme Court judge for arresting Arumugan Rajeevan at gunpoint, without legal grounds, "unarresting" him, after realising their mistake, and subjecting him to hours of "outrageous" questioning without legal counsel.

As Brian Walters articulated on The Drum:

"The burden of the prosecution case was that the accused sent money to the LTTE…The prosecution said it did not matter if that money was for the purpose of charity - the Act makes no exception for such circumstances. Not surprisingly, when the charges were laid, major international aid organisations immediately feared that they too would be subject to criminal charges. After all, they had done exactly the same thing as the accused men. Privately, the authorities reassured these organisations that they would not be charged."

In other words, the prosecution is selectively applying these laws to people they feel they can intimidate without resulting in public scrutiny, which is also called racial profiling.

So, despite the evidence from our police forces, politicians and selectively applied laws, we can rest assured that Australia is not a racist nation, as we have been told.

Jacinda Woodhead is a Melbourne writer and the online editor for Overland literary journal, where she blogs about politics and literature.

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  • Clare :

    10 Apr 2010 7:26:15pm

    Well done, Jacinda. If no one asks these questions and raises the issues, how can we progress? The comments seem to me to reflect our general 'knee jerk' reaction to the idea that Australia is a racist country - it somehow goes 'against the grain' of how we like to see ourselves: inclusive, laid-back, fun-loving, hard-working, etc. Whatever the true state of affairs, there is nothing that can excuse persecution of any kind from our police officers. It's a complex problem: police are exposed to all kinds of situations that require enormous compassion, empathy and 'person first' people skills: domestic nightmares, psychological anguish, alcohol and drug abuse and the behaviour that can accompany it - yet the focus is not the person, it's the so-called 'law' that puts property at the forefront and leaves much to be desired in a truly humanist society. The individuals who perpetrate the crimes listed in your article need help. They need to be relieved of their duties and retrained in the skills of simple humanity: compassion and empathy. These qualities are also, it would so happen, the cure for racism.

  • scot :

    10 Apr 2010 3:53:03pm

    Algernon
    thanks for your suggestion, funny thing I'm already in queensland

    my company decided to downsize after the GFC and it was cheaper to sack staff than lay them off.

    I was sacked for opening a 30sec video sent to me by another member of staff, promo for some tv show.

    If you sack someone you don't need to pay any notice of termination or long term service leave required by a contract, they sacked a lot of staff and saved a lot of money all legal nothing can be done.

    my company before that in melbourne for 2 years forgot to pay superannuation to any of its employees, I'm not a great fan of australian companies.
    paid taxes for 7 years, I'm a permanent resident and british but still got no centerlink, why am I not surprised (I'm being a whinging pom again).

    but after 7 months unemployed I got a job outside brisbane, my wife and sons have had to stay with their jobs in perth, but although we are apart we still survive.

    Hope my second posting did not offend anyone I'm new to this, but some of the comments just get me angry.

    Its not australia its just people the way they are, you have a wonderful country just some not very nice people.

    to put it into perspective, when I went to the British embassy in manila to arrange papers so i could marry my pilipino wife I was told the british governments view of 'mixed' marriage by a embassy official I have never forgotten his words, he said,

    "they are not human beings, they are just clever animals, they are not like us, they are not White"

    that was in 2001

    compared to my own governments attitude Australia is not even all that bad, at least I got to bring my family here, she was not allowed to live in UK.

    people can be good and people can be bad, its just the bad ones are just more vocal.

  • Eric :

    10 Apr 2010 12:58:02pm

    There are problems with Muslims intigrating, so it says.

    Well Muslims share a religion that is rasist and sexist. How can they intigrat with that sort of background.

    If Jacinta thinks Australia is racist she should go to some Muslim dominated places. Somtimes it is better to wait for others to catch up on these social matters than try to lead to far in front.....

      • dubious the third :

        10 Apr 2010 4:49:46pm

        Erics are all vikings. Vikings should not be allowed in Australia because they might attack us.

        Just like you, Eric, I can make broad generalisations that are not true.

  • pseudowyre :

    10 Apr 2010 10:34:51am

    LAUGH OUT LOUD.

    Netin Garg was killed for a reason. If we want to attribute blame and get to the bottom of this - lets look back at John Howard 1997.

    Australia, in its Liberal Gov.'s union busting move, put in changes in migration law to let in as many young and able men and women as possible to reduce labour costs and union strength.

    The vehicle used was the education industry in AU. ie. universities , technical colleges etc.

    Full feeing meant that a student can exchange $40,000 approx. for eventual PR visas and citizenship, and eventually sponsor visas for family etc.

    The scam was exposed last year, if you can call it a 'scam' as it was engineered by the govt, it is at least a legit scam.

    The rise in racism and unrest is attributed to this policy. This policy also caused pressure in housing, transport, jobs, services, hospitals, etc. etc. It also created jobs, growth, money, cheaper labour etc.

    Well Howard achieved his goal in causalising the workforce by importing a large quanitity of migrants over 10 years.

    Unofortunately, these things come at a cost - social and economic. Read Alan Kohler's report on this matter in Business Spectator, Alan always tells it like it is ...

    So it all culminated in last year's attacks on indians and the apparent media explosion -and- subsequent demise of our third largest industry 'exporting education'.

    So if this policy has made Australians more racist, it is only because the govt wanted cheaper labour and dismantling of unions. Its next goal which is now handed to Rudd, is to increase population to service the 'ageing population' deficit. But what measure will the Rudd gov. take? How will they engineer the next phase of mass migration?

    PW.

  • Nix :

    09 Apr 2010 9:02:28pm

    Has anyone else noticed that all the people who claim Australia isn't racist are 'white' Australians?

    Doesn't it make sense that if you want to find out whether racism is occurring, you ask the people who are likely to experience it, not the people who are likely to perpetrate it?

    Of course the people responsible would prefer to pretend that the problem doesn't exist. Then they don't have to do anything and admit responsibility.

      • Algernon :

        10 Apr 2010 8:27:32am

        Nix, how do you know what colour the people who post here are?

          • pseudowyre :

            10 Apr 2010 10:07:49am

            Nice observation Nix.

            Whites do not understand 'racism' as theyve never experienced it, although they like to talk a lot about it from both sides of the fence.

            I think if they went to some well to do Asian country like Taiwan or Japan, and suddenly found some locals telling them to 'go back to their own country', this feeling might be a new and nauseating.

            However the white race via its dominance in the media, political and economic world tend to have a self belief that they are indeed entitled to be respected wherever they go in the world, and would easily shrug off any racial incident put upon them by any 'coloured' person.

            In fact, racism was invented by whites, as a way of distinguishing themselves from anyone else who isnt white, as such, it is a symbolic claim to be categorically superior and thus immuned from reverse or counter racist attacks.

            PW.

              • bennoba :

                10 Apr 2010 2:11:34pm

                'Whites do not understand 'racism' as they've never experienced it, although they like to talk a lot about it from both sides of the fence'.

                Go and live in Japan, Malaysia or the Middle East and then get back to me with your experiences.

                The sheer ignorance of your post is breathtaking.

                Racism exists in every country that is populated with people.

                Grow up!

              • frangipani :

                10 Apr 2010 2:32:41pm

                Racism was invented by whites? You're kidding, right? Racism is simply tribalism on a grand scale, and tribalism was and is certainly not a "whites only" phenomenon. Take a good look around the world - consider the attitudes of the Japanese to outsiders, or the attitude of the Chinese to any and all cultures and people which are not Han; look at the genocides in Africa committed by one tribe against another; or think about the caste system in India which largely categorizes the darkest-skinned people as untouchables, and the lightest ones as Brahmins.

                Racism, prejudice, whatever you want to call it is a universal human trait, one which all of us, of all colours need to work against. And comments such as yours, stigmatizing a single race, and everyone who is a member of that race, are absolutely typical of the mind-set that has to be challenged at every opportunity.

          • Condescension to coloured folk :

            10 Apr 2010 10:11:27am

            Because, by definition, Anglo Celts alone can be 'racist' while non Anglo Celts are inherently 'innocent victims' without moral responsibility.

            That's the core operating assumption driving marxisant rhetoric on this topic.

            It treats all non Anglo Celts as the moral equivalent of children, relieving them of all responsibility.

            Ironically, as such, it's racist and condescending to the core.

            See 'The eternal Anglo Celt' below for a full explanation... or else read Rousseau.

      • Michael :

        10 Apr 2010 9:14:44am

        I am white of English descent and when I arrived in Australia at 9 years old some 35 years ago, I was called a pommy whinger, asked if I used soap and my accent was mocked. I bet no thinks that is racisim. I have also been abused racially and called names referring to my skin by Aboriginal Australians whilst walking through Redfern. Whilst being employed as a mortgage broker I have been discriminated by Chinese and Indian's who although I have offered a better mortgage than the Indian or Chinese broker they spoke to when shown my mortgage deal they went back to the Indian and Chinese broker because they would prefer to deal with people of their own race. My brother in law was a manager of a Shell Service which was purchased by an Indian and all the non Indians were sacked and other Indians employed. Anybody seen a non Indian in a Shell Service Station owned by Indians? My ex wife a school teacher told me a story one day in class when a Croatian girl stood up in class to give a speach, it was about racisim. She said,"Racisim is when white people pick on black people." The whole class errupted because she constantly spoke about Serbians and how she hated them. I have a Chinese friend who when she bought a car she went to a car yard with a Chinese man, when she got a mortgage (I no longer was involved in broking) she went to a Chinese broker, when she moved she went to a Chinese removalist. She and her son on a number of times have spoken about racisim in Australia. My friend does not think she is racist. That is the problem, people who call others names, people who only deal with people from their own backgrounds, people who only employ people from their own countries don't think they are racist. They think everybody else is.

      • ElijahThomas :

        10 Apr 2010 6:56:11pm

        "Has anyone else noticed that all the people who claim Australia isn't racist are 'white' Australians?"

        that is simply an untrue and racist statement.

        attitudes like that are part of the racist problem.

  • Professor Rosseforp :

    09 Apr 2010 7:29:19pm

    "there are people who still regard Australia as an Anglo Celtic country". That could be because we have English law, a British system of government, a British health system, an army based on the British system, a police force based on the British system, banking system based on the British system, social welfare based on a British model, we speak English, our transportation based on Britain's, our architecture is British, our sports are British -- in other words, all of our major institutions -- cultural, political, educational, military, judicial, economic -- are all signs of the historical fact that we are a British outpost.
    Should Australians (of all races and colours) be ashamed of that, or should we celebrate that part of our culture?
    It has been forgotten by many people that many refugees from Europe, after World War 2, came to Australia specifically because they wanted that Anglo Celtic cultural heritage. In the 1950s, Russians, Hungarians and Chinese wanted to come here for the same reason -- they wanted to escape the totalitarian governments and cultures of their own countries. In the 1960s and 1970s we saw Polish and Czech people coming here for the same reason.

      • Bender :

        10 Apr 2010 10:02:54am

        spot on professor
        my father came to Australia for those exact reasons in the 50's.
        my father fully embraced this way of life
        but you probably would not even know he was not born in aus.(born in hungry ,and lived until 10yr)
        This house hold know who we are behind 100% across the field
        go the green and gold
        buy the way for those that are interested my grand father walked past a Hungarian post of and saw an ad for free flights and visa a room and job,but came the condition that my father was to be placed with and good family and stay there for to two year or until his parents could afford to feed house them self, and pop to work on the snowy mountain scheme did my gran but she was doing cooking jobs,they went on to own a series of fish and chip shops

      • dubious the third :

        10 Apr 2010 10:42:21am

        There's a bit of wrong-headedness here Prof.
        If the balts, etc. post WW2 were wanting "all things british", surely they would have gone to Britain, or if not, the next best thing, New Zealand.
        I assume that they were desperate to get out of europe, rather than wanting to live under british rule.
        But you can add to your list, british Head of State and british Sovereign when listing Australia's cultural institutions, and these bits haven't changed.
        Still, I'm not sure that that's why post WW2 migrants chose Australia.

          • Professor Rosseforp :

            10 Apr 2010 2:49:32pm

            Dubious, you are correct of course. Many did go to Britain, United States, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand. No doubt plenty ended up in South American countries, and some would have gone to Israel.
            They were desperate to get out of Europe. Plenty of Hungarians ended up in Austria, many Poles ended up in France. But Australia was a free country, looking for migrants, and a long way from Europe.
            In the case of some, who mourned the loss of the monarchies in their own countries, the presence of the British Crown was an added attraction.
            It had all the benefits of Britain with the added advantage of sunshine.
            I guess my point is that the notion of multiculturalism in Australia is a relatively recent one, and was not on the agenda of many people who migrated here.
            Many that I have spoken to had a great affection for the Brits, because of Britain's role in the war. They saw it as a defender of Europe against a mad dictatorship (or two). They also admired Britain's organisational capabilities and economic potential.
            Many of these migrants put up with hellish conditions in Australia, e.g. they had to work where they were told to for 2 years -- I knew a hairdresser who cut cane in far north Queensland for 2 years, and an academic who worked in western NSW on a farm.
            But I can't recall any who regretted the experience, and all that I know wholeheartedly embraced the way of life -- even if Aussies didn't know how to play true football.

  • Alicej :

    09 Apr 2010 6:46:52pm

    Original

    Money laundering and Copper laundering have little in common,but copper laundering, although old fashioned, still brings up your whites
    whiter than white. Then there’s the pre-wash , the added deterrent, and spin cycle.

    Any dirty washing that has any intestinal fortitude, will be kneeded into submission
    With a soapy solution to any remaining stains attributed to force.

    All coloureds will receive special treatment,cold water being poured on any claim to rough usage. This is especially important with the colour red as when it runs it might dye.

    ( PS If whites are caught up in the spin cycle, they may find the colour stain hard to shift, so before they rinse their hands of the matter they perhaps should come clean before being caught up in the wash in the first place.)

  • Scot :

    09 Apr 2010 6:28:40pm

    I'm a foreign worker and a permanent resident in Perth, but please don't panic I'm white and scottish.

    My wife and 2 grown sons are from the philippines and they suffer daily racism.

    They do the jobs that Australians refuse to do, even during this GFC.

    My oldest son works night shifts he has suffered so much racial abuse and threats on late night buses that he's been forced to leave home and rent a flat near his work.

    He can only travel home to visit us during daylight hours, public transport is too dangerous for anyone not white to travel at night in Perth.

    My own experience is 5 years working in a Perth office with daily jokes and baiting, jokes about mail order brides will never grow old.
    Raising to the bait brings calls of 'just joking, can't you scots take a joke'.

    My boss used to refuse to speak to my wife at office parties, and made it clear to the rest of the staff they should do the same.

    Before the jibs of 'Whinging pom' starts, I and my family love being here, if I had come here younger I would have been proud to become an Australian citizen.

    It saddens me that my son can not safely travel at night and has been forced to leave his home.

    Australia is not a racist country, but people here often are and to criticise Australians to to suffer a barrage of abuse.
    Some racists are very vocal, but most keep their racism unspoken, being polite in public but sharing the same opinions in private.

    This is the worst kind of racism the illogical belief that all Australia's problems are the fault of anyone whose skin is darker then yours.

      • Algernon :

        10 Apr 2010 8:36:33am

        Scot, perhaps you could move to the eastern states, we're a little more enlightened than naive old Perth.

        I experienced prejudice working there in the '90s for taking jobs of Western Australians and being married to one didn't count. Forget the fact that the expertise didn't exist in the field I worked.

        BTW it's 2010 over here, not 1980 like it is WA.

  • Michael :

    09 Apr 2010 6:13:17pm

    Obviously Australia is such a racist county and we need to act responsibly to stop people from being treated badly. The best solution to save refugees and immigrants from being treated in a racist manner is to tell them before they even consider coming here. We need to be honest and tell refugees and immigrants if you come here you will be treated in a racist way, your human rights will be infringed because we are all racists and we are not nice people. The Tamils will be far better staying in Sri Lanka, the Afghans will be safer in Afghanistan and African refugees will be far safer in Africa. I would suggest that we stop accepting refugees now and immigration immediately for their well being and safety.

  • Jes :

    09 Apr 2010 4:59:11pm


    yeah there is some racism from all quarters, the funny one though is the green voters, they all live in expensive areas that are opposed to development, public housing etc so they never ever get to live in ethnic neighbourhoods while they abuse those that do of racism. So yes even the anti-racist are racist...

      • Gert by Sea :

        09 Apr 2010 9:13:08pm

        What rubbish. The Greens get their highest votes in the inner cities, precisely the areas of most ethnic diversity and most public housing.

  • Ronk :

    09 Apr 2010 4:13:44pm

    "desecrating a copy of the Koran during a raid by throwing it on the ground and calling it "s...", is offensive and inappropriate (presumining it was done deliberately - unless the officer could read Arabic or somebody told him what it was, he wouldn't have known the book was a Koran) but it is not racism. Islam is a religion, not a race. Just like Christians, Muslims can be and are of any and every race.

    Sure you can find plenty of evidence of racism in Australia if you go looking for it. But I defy you to find evidence that any other major country is overall LESS racist than Australia.

  • M C :

    09 Apr 2010 4:00:13pm

    My suggestion to people who thing Australia is racist is to go and live elsewhere for a few years, not visit as a money spending tourist but live try Afirca Asia and the Middle East but Europe isnt far behind.
    As Ruddite and Abbott Samadi gear up their plans to wreck the place by importing millions the cultiral clashes are going to get worse. As factions form and we slowly turn into the USA and society splits into fractured cultural interest groups we will become as moribund and hampered with rising crime and bitterness as they are. Of course Rudd and the Abbott and their country club connections wont notice it shored up as they will be in their walled suburbs but life for the average will be a lot less easy.
    Australia isnt racist yet and wont be if we limit our intake to under 100 000 a year but if we go the way we are going you will soon see what racism is. There is nothing wrong with multiculturalism but when you force people into severe conflicting cultural groups then there is.

      • pseudowyre :

        10 Apr 2010 10:39:37am

        Rodney King?

        Cast your mind back to the Cronulla Riots.

        Now I lived in Sydney for 25 years, and I did not realise there was such hate between White Australians and the Lebanese community, apart from they generically disliked eachother.

        But I would not have been able to predict people going to the lengths they did in Maroubra and Cronulla and how easily hostile rascist divides and feelings surfaced.

  • Dave :

    09 Apr 2010 3:44:46pm

    A lot of perceptions of racism are in fact simply matters of economic exclusion as a large number of immigrants struggle to "spend eternity on the sun drenched beach" as they cant afford it. Alternatively some struggle to spend said eternity on said beach because they have no respect for the culture of their new country and treat women like meat.

      • Jirinka :

        10 Apr 2010 11:23:45am

        There is plenty to show that many Anglo-Celtic Australian men still treat women as meat... Just look at some of our footballers.

  • Vivienne :

    09 Apr 2010 3:35:28pm

    The murder of Nitin Garg was a disgrace and shameful to Australia, and a tragedy for his friends and family. However, if there were people in a park late at night, waiting for revenge and drunken violence, anyone who walked into their lair would have been a victim, I suspect. It is not only Indians who are being targeted. The reality is that our cities are becoming increasingly violent, and tourists and international students are likely to be unaware of the potential dangers. Australia is supposed to be "safe". Crimes against Indian students are likely to be just as often opportunistic due to their work and study regimes.
    As for police racism, it is an over-reaction to political correctness when crime-stoppers can't mention skin colour!

      • White Male Loner :

        09 Apr 2010 5:15:05pm

        "...Nitin Garg was a disgrace and shameful to Australia..."

        Oh, really? So do you know who the killer was? And his or her nationality?

        See 'The eternal Anglo Celt' below...

          • Vivienne :

            10 Apr 2010 7:50:10am

            The racial origins of the attackers is unknown and irrelevant. A murder is just as horrific no matter what the race of the perpetrator is! It happened in Australia and that is shameful.
            The criminals could easily have been immigrants of descendants of one of the many ethnic groups in Australia now. Anglos aren't less prone to being criminals, but diversity will mean less harmony in our society, more sub-cultures and less unity. Not having a homogeneous society will bring more conflicts and crime - that's my opinion! Multiculturalism sounds wonderful, and idealistic, but due to human nature, it will weaken society's foundations.

              • dubious the third :

                10 Apr 2010 8:57:46am

                other Vivienne
                For thousands of yers, these lands were multicultural.
                Only in the past century or two, has this one group come in, totally dominating all the other cultures, committing acts of genocide, and saying "do as we say or there will be trouble."

              • Vivienne :

                10 Apr 2010 4:42:40pm

                So glad you spotted the 'other' I never write more than a paragraph.

  • The eternal Anglo Celt :

    09 Apr 2010 3:22:55pm

    "Because there are people who still regard Australia as an Anglo Celtic country, despite around 200 years of Chinese Australians, Afghan Australians, African Australians, and 60,000 years of Indigenous Australians."

    That's because the Anglo Celtic element of the population is expected to accept full moral responsibility for Australia's history - while the others are not.

    For example, whenever an official event celebrates some positive or beneficial aspect of the collective Australian experience, we are reminded insistently of the wonderful input by "200 years of Chinese Australians, Afghan Australians, African Australians, and 60,000 years of Indigenous Australians".

    Of how "migrants built this great nation", of how "there was no culture here until migrants arrived", and even the food was rubbish until the Chinese or the Greeks fixed it for us, etc, etc, etc.

    Every time. And who can deny it?

    But if we are being told of the NEGATIVE aspects of the Australian experience - environmental degradation, violence, sexism, lowered Aboriginal health outcomes, etc, etc - then that is due ENTIRELY to "European settlement" or "Anglo Saxon Australians".

    As if the "Chinese Australians, Afghan Australians, African Australians, etc" merely floated like angels above the ground.

    As if they didn't affect the environment, lived in perfect harmony, and were otherwise universally virtuous in every respect.

    The recent series of attacks on Indian nationals in Australia is a terrific case in point.

    These were immediately attributed to White Anglo Saxons by all manner of commentator, not least the Prime Minister's nephew Vann Rudd

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/anatomy-of-hate-as-magazine-unleashes-antiaustralian-rage-20100131-n6n4.html

    In fact, the crimes involved Lebanese Australians attacking Indian students...

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/indians-rally-as-suburb-seethes-20090610-c2ei.html

    ...Indians attacking other Indians...

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/singh-killing-third-arrest-20100129-n2g3.html

    ...an Indian allegedly killing an Indian child...

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/07/2838854.htm

    ... and even an Indian attacking himself!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/03/2808440.htm?section=australia

    In fact, I cannot recall a single instance of an attack on an Indian reported recently that actually involved an Anglo Celt attacking an Indian.

    I'm sure it could happen, but that's not the point of the hysteria whipped up by the likes of Vann Rudd.

    The point is to shift ALL moral responsibility for EVERYTHING bad that happens in Australia on to Anglo Celts.

    Oddly, when an Irish back-packer is bashed near to death by a Polynesian Australian

      • Cosmo soft porn magazine :

        09 Apr 2010 5:08:07pm

        "...Oddly, when an Irish back-packer is bashed near to death by a Polynesian Australian..."

        Let me guess? That's then NOT a racist attack, right?

          • davido :

            09 Apr 2010 7:51:50pm

            drunken idiots fighting isnt racism,its just drunken idiots fighting.

          • IrishPolynesianAussie :

            10 Apr 2010 12:55:39am

            Nah it was probably just my Mum and Dad

      • Wee Lass :

        09 Apr 2010 8:21:22pm

        I am so thankful that there are people out there with a solid head on their shoulders. Thankyou so much for your comment - you have hit the nail right on the head. It is astonishing the amount of times when 'racist attacks' have occurred that there is the immediate misapprehension that the victim must be ethnic and we Anglo-Celts with a superiorty complex must surely be the offenders. Every 'attack' in recent times has been tarred with the same brush. I say enjoy eating humble pie when you realise more often than not the offenders are also ethnic.

      • Algernon :

        10 Apr 2010 8:38:46am

        And what was the Cronulla riots about?

  • CF Zero :

    09 Apr 2010 2:50:03pm

    I think what people have a hard time accepting is not people from other countries but their culture. Culture being a chosen behaviour there is nothing wrong with discrimination based on behaviour, just look at how we treat criminals.
    People are not objecting to the person, they are objecting to the importation of the persopns culture, and it raises the question if someone is bringing their old culture with them, why are they coming here in the first place, most likely because the persons native culture does not provide the opportunity to live a good life, otherwise why leave?
    Kindly leave your old culture where you found it thanks.

      • Az :

        09 Apr 2010 3:53:13pm

        Hi

        As another Aussie - 7 gens one way, 700 another, I'd like to totally rebuke the above statement.

        Please bring your cultures, with all their languages, fashion, food and art here, so they can melt into the big pot and create new and wonderful things. Hold onto them or cast them off, whatever you like.

        While people like the one above do exist here in Australia, we're not all like that.

        Cheers
        Az

      • Rashid :

        09 Apr 2010 5:33:29pm

        Good point though has been made often.
        What is not often discussed openly is the layers of situations that are created by others and external vested interests beyond the peoples'control, that forces them to seek "the good life". In doing so they forget the impact of their baggage of clashing customs and religious mind-set, without doing the home work before escaping or migrating to another country.
        What this calls for is that the host country should take all such issues into consideration before granting entry, in order to minimise the clash. Many of these issues become significant in groups of people migrating who are---less exposed to Western Norms.This then puts additional burdon on the host country of educating the would-be migrant.
        In terms of asylum seekers, the international community as a whole is obliged to jointly intervene by condemning, naming and shaming the home country, without being politically correct in the process, for crteating an unstable situation.The community at large itself must also see to it that IT does not take part in creating UNJUST and unstable conditions in there.
        This of course is a politically loaded question!
        Simultaneously the community must not abandon its humanitarian obligations to the genuine asylum seekers. This is too a loaded moral question!
        Any early migrant like myself will tell you that we hardly faced (normal human prejudices accepted) what the new migrants of today have to endure.

          • pseudowyre :

            10 Apr 2010 11:09:06am

            Globalisation isnt just a political and economic event in human history. Its very much to do with technology.

            If we look at the internet and how culture is exchanged through media, we see two way streets. Non western countries are exposed western culture by being bombarded with its immense media outlets and power. While Western countries are exposed to foreign entities by immigration made possible by ever improving global transportation systems.

            If we extrapolate this, its hard to argue to the contrary that the world by the end of this century will not be collectivised more or less into on entity that has evolved from a combination of many intrinsic influences.

            PW

  • Vince Whirlwind :

    09 Apr 2010 1:57:18pm

    It's not just immature, its exemplifying the deficient analysis present in much of the media scribbling we read today.

    Instead of drawing pre-conceived conclusions from a few anecdotes, why not analyse the data?

    Have you taken care to examine stats on the ethnicity of all *victims* AND *perpetrators* of crime, thus building up a picture of who is most likely to commit crimes, and against whom?

    Until you've done that, your opinions remain unsubstantiated rubbish.

    Of course you may have a bit of trouble - the AIC & ABS both ceased publication of stats revealing ethnicity of convicted criminals in 1999 - around about the same time the NSW police were trying to cover-up the explosion in Sydney gang-rapes. That cover-up lasted until Sydney women's refuges went public with what the police were up to and the fall-out from NSW police's failure was Australia's famous Cronulla "race riot".

    I suggest the people crying "racism" are the last people who want the actual detailed facts made available to the public.

      • no all :

        09 Apr 2010 2:15:50pm

        vince
        id like to go one step further .
        what are statistics of crime commited by whites against blacks in the first 200 years of invasion?

      • Earle Qaeda :

        09 Apr 2010 2:43:06pm

        Sad to think that it's only racism when someone's bleeding & battered in a ditch somewhere. No Mr W'Wind, the immeasurable statistic is the one which details the slurs, jibes & suspicions about the different folk among us. As the old song says... "From little things big things grow..." Personally I have never seen racist violence. Perhaps I have heard some strong words used offensively somewhere but nothing that I can call to mind. However what I do see & hear are the niggling comments, asides & unfortunate anti-Moslem emails that reveal how sour many of us are.

        But I will take your interesting point about gang rape cover ups. I hadn't heard of that as a factor in the Cronulla event before.

  • Rashid :

    09 Apr 2010 1:37:37pm

    Perhaps as an immigrant myself of about four decades in this country and having experienced attitudes in various other countries, I should put my two cents worth.
    Early fifties in England, the students and tourists there were as yet, welcomed with open arms. Late fifties, with the arrival of "ex-colonials' influx" of immigrants, had changed this attitude!
    In Australia too one saw this change. An immigrant was a novelty particularly in remote and out back places till seventies. This novelty wore off as people in large number arrived from unheard of(for Australians) countries, and a clash of cultures surfaced.
    The upshot of all this is that the host country was not given the TIME to learn about new commers at a gradual pace. As one elderly person long ago comment on Radio some thing like---I was borne in Paramatta, I liked the change that was occurring, but now I feel I am a stranger in this place; the place even smells different, he added!
    One can immagine the poor chap's reaction when he saw a person on the street walking in full-body black-Balaclava! Does that indicate some thing?


  • ms po :

    09 Apr 2010 1:02:21pm

    Ask any migrant if Australia is not racist and if it is a multicultural country ha ha ha.

    Australians just don't realize that other countries are far more multicutlural and opened to people from different ethnic backgrounds.

    Just look at mainstream TV, radio, shows, festivals in Australia... Look how the education encourages learning about foreign cultures and foreign languages. It's a joke!

    All Australians expect from migrants (of non-English background) is to follow their Anglo rules - otherwise they are called unAustralian.

    So, it is a good article and great to see it published by ABC that is known to serve only the Anglo Australians and censoring voices of migrants. Keep going and maybe eventually the Australians will get it.

      • Married with 2 :

        09 Apr 2010 1:33:43pm

        If you are so unhappy here you should emigrate to one of these places as "other countries are far more multicultural and opened to people from different ethnic backgrounds."
        I do come into contact with many migrants during the course of any given day. My children go to school with black muslim girls (a catholic school...shock, horror) the Doctors we see all come from other Asian and Eastern European countries. I work with Indian, Sri Lankan, Phillipino,African, English and Irish people. We all get along well, we get our job done, we socialise together and we all swap stories at work about our children and our lives. Perhaps you should OPEN your mind and heart a little....you may be surprised at what you see around the 2 square feet of ground you are wallowing in.

          • ms po :

            09 Apr 2010 2:25:25pm

            Here we go again... 'if you're not happy go away...'
            I never said I am not happy. I just described the reality in Australia.
            You use the typical for Australians quote - if we say something that is not to your liking - you tell us to go away.
            Now - that is racist in my opinion.

              • mate :

                09 Apr 2010 3:09:33pm

                Why us and them Ms Po, arn't you Australian?

              • Married with 2 :

                09 Apr 2010 3:34:17pm

                Aren't you lucky that in this country you may have your say no matter how unreasonable and stubbornly blind it is and ...."here we go again" Ms Po ...is that not why you came to this country. You are unhappy, you don't have a nice thing to say about Australia and you throw nasty insulting slurs at all Australians..."just look" at the words you wrote again.

              • Az :

                10 Apr 2010 12:03:24am

                "Aren't you lucky that in this country you may have your say no matter how unreasonable and stubbornly blind it."

                Well there's a back-handed insult if ever I've read one.

                You go out of your way to preach how many non-Australians you're acquainted with, Married. A Shakespeare quote comes to mind, something about protesting too much.

                Speaking as someone with some genetic (but not cultural) heritage that has gestated here for 40k odd thousand years, I support Ms Po and welcome her. Please disregard the comments of these uncomfortable new-comers. They'll learn to fit in eventually.

              • VoR :

                09 Apr 2010 3:36:14pm

                You didn't describe the reality in Australia. Broadly speaking, you described the reality in any society anywhere in the world. People are expected to follow the rules. But you limited your observation to Australia. THAT's racist.

                Then you said the ABC only serves Anglo Australians. THAT's racist nonsense.

              • Father O'Way :

                09 Apr 2010 10:53:07pm

                Gee VoR, not like you to say anything logical, reasonable or sensible, you must be aging

      • VoR :

        09 Apr 2010 2:01:51pm

        Yep. Follow the rules. Or not if you don't want to, in which case expect some disapproval and/or serious misunderstandings. Same as in any other country.

        Broadly speaking, a lot of the rules in Australia DO derive from an Anglo background, or at least a Western background. But there is a quite significant difference. Migrants from England often get a rude shock too. Tough. Not that I don't feel for people with culture shock. But it's a bit much to blame it on the country you choose to migrate to.

        Basically, societies have rules. That's the way societies work. If you don't want to adapt to a new set of rules, don't leave the society you are used to. It happens within countries too. Different strands of society have their own sets of rules.

        A common alternative is to leave the society with the rules you are used to and then band together with people who have the same rules as you.

        Another common, but irritating, alternative is to leave the society with the rules you are used to and then complain that the rules where you are going are different.

          • dubious the third :

            09 Apr 2010 3:23:58pm

            VoR
            such supremist assimilationist rationalising.
            Integrating people from differing cultures assists to grow Australian culture, enriching us all, perhaps even one day, to beyond footy, meat pies and general motors' cars.

            We settlers were not so good at integrating here, indeed, even demanding that the local assimilate into our imposed culture, yet we still can't see our hypocrisy.

              • VoR :

                09 Apr 2010 5:40:53pm

                Sumpremist (sic) how? I have no problem with other countries having their own rules. Indeed I abide by them in interactions with the locals when I live there and try to respect them to the extent of my knowledge when I visit.

                We who? Speak for yourself dubious. I'm sorry you have trouble seeing though your own hypocrisy but the first step is recognising it so take heart from that. Personally I've never been interested in footy or general motor's cars although I did go though a period in late childhood when I liked meat pies. I still enjoy good fish & chips.

              • dubious the third :

                09 Apr 2010 6:06:33pm

                I presume that you are living on land where you are ignoring the local customs that were developing there for thousands of years. Thousands of years.

                Now you say everyone must follow your rules.

                Hypocrisy?

              • VoR :

                10 Apr 2010 4:06:19am

                I don't know what word you are grasping for dubious, but hypocrisy isn't it. Here's a definition for you: The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

                I profess the broadly common sense belief that you follow the rules of the society in which you live. (Within reason, obviously. Societies evolve and sophisticated societies have multiple subgroups.) If the society in which I was living was Aboriginal, I would follow Aboriginal rules.

                History shows that the local Aboriginal society was no different in this respect. They expected their rules to be followed by newcomers too. It's not rocket science.

              • dubious the third :

                10 Apr 2010 5:11:57pm

                Collectively, I suggest that the settler society, into which you are living, having cultural, political and governmental baggege from the other side of the planet, is hypocritical when it insists on everyone following this baggage of imposed rules, and disallowing new settlers from bringing any of their baggage.
                The hypocrisy is that the culture that existed here until 200 years ago, was not in any way respected by the new settlers then, or still.
                Perhaps it is difficult for anlo-australians and over assimilated first gen australians from seeing this, but it seems that the rest of the world does not.
                I do ponder what our Soverein thinks of us. She, with over a billion people under 25 in her realm, and we settler australians, freaking out about population numbers, whilst living it up, profiting from stolen resources.

      • frangipani :

        09 Apr 2010 2:17:12pm

        "Other countries are far more multicultural and open to people from different ethnic backgrounds"? Name three.

        You do realize, don't you, that Australia has the highest per-capita rate of immigration in the world? If that's not institutionalized non-racism, I don't know what is.

        Is Australia perfect in the way it deals with people from different backgrounds? No, it's not. Is there racism here? Yes there is. And it's not confined to whites, by the way.

        But name me a nation anywhere that doesn't have these problems. I've lived in quite a few countries and travelled to more, and I've yet to find one that is the multicultural nirvana you portray. Every country, including the handful of immigrant-welcoming ones, struggles with this issue. Quite a few countries avoid it by simply refusing to allow people of other cultures to settle (Japan), or by restricting the numbers (most of Europe).

        And I know of no country which will adapt its language, laws and political traditions to the will of new migrants as you seem to imply should be the case here.

          • dubious the third :

            09 Apr 2010 3:29:19pm

            "You do realize, don't you, that Australia has the highest per-capita rate of immigration in the world? If that's not institutionalized non-racism, I don't know what is"

            Actually, what it is is a way of sharing the guilt. Living as we do, on stolen lands, benefitting as we do, from stolen resources, being as we are, predominantly anglo, we now allow peoples from other lands to buy our stolen goods. See, we're not racists, we even let black africans come here now, especially if they've got money.
            We even, begrudgingly, allow a few refugees without money to come here too.
            How unracist is that?

          • ms po :

            09 Apr 2010 4:53:19pm

            Other countries don't boast loud about being a 'multicultural'. Yet, they deal much better with foreigners. You tell everyone you're multicultural - and it's a lie. You do have people from other countries - but you don't treat them equally. Your multiculture is only on the paper. You are actually racists. Just the fact you're occupying the Aboriginal land tells it all. Long after Nazis were defeated in Europe - you still treated them as non-humans (I don't want to say 'animals' but it is very close). And still till today you don't treat them well as the rightful owners of this land.
            So what do you think it is? Split mentality? On one hand you're thinking you're not racist, on the other all your laws and actions and heritage are racist.
            If we come here and we see your rules/actions as racist and discriminatory - we tell you it. Don't tell us we can't say anything and that we must shut up and accept your English colonial rules etc. You came here and you didn't respect the Aboriginal rules either. More over - you killed and enslaved them. You are lucky we don't do that to you. But fortunately for you - most, if not all, of us are humane and don't have criminal past.

              • Married with 2 :

                09 Apr 2010 8:41:56pm

                Sweetie you just stepped over the rational discussion line. Fanatics are rarely worth any sane persons time. When you are unable to express yourself without such vitriol the problem is not "Australia" it is your own view Ms Chip.

              • frangipani :

                10 Apr 2010 12:59:21pm

                Ms Po - you specifically said that other countries are far more multicultural than Australia. I'm waiting for you to give me an example - even one.

                I've already said Australia isn't perfect. But I can't think of a single country that doesn't have elements of exploitation, bigotry and indeed racism in its history and its social structures. At least Australia is trying to address them.

                As to the statement that "all your laws" are racist - well, that's arrant nonsense. Again, name one.

      • Long term traveller :

        09 Apr 2010 4:05:39pm

        Where are these other countries? I've travelled, lived and worked extensively overseas in the Americas, in the Pacific, in South East Asia, the Middle East and in Europe (72 countries in all, 28 years of travel) and no country I've been to is anywhere near as multicultural and tolerant as Australia. Yep, there's racism here, but it's openly talked about, racist comments are scorned and it isn't really hidden.

        It exists, but there is widespread acceptance that it is evil, although the practice lags behind the rhetoric.

        Most places simply don't acknowledge it. It certainly exists, the US and UK being prime examples of white led racist societies, Qatar and the UAE being examples of extreme racist societies (where it's quite dangerous to belong to a minority group), with Japan and China being excellent examples of institutionalised "harmlessly" racist countries (where otherwise terrific people live with laws so racist they would astound the average aussie).

        No, from my experience, Australia is far and away the least racist country on the planet. A long way from perfect and with many miles yet to travel to get there, but far far far ahead of anywhere else I've been.

          • frangipani :

            10 Apr 2010 1:02:53pm

            Couldn't agree more with you (except, being Canadian, I would add Canada to the mix of comparatively tolerant societies). I too have lived in a lot of places, and people who think Australia is racist really should spend some time in Russia or Greece or India.

          • Expat :

            10 Apr 2010 2:34:38pm

            I lived and work in few countries. Also here in Australia. I agree with ms po. I think the problem is the Australians don't really understand what it means to be multicultural. They think they are, but they're not. If they travel - they wrongly perceive other countries as not multicultural. Maybe they think multicultural means: black guys can be pushed into their own reserves, make jokes about and put them down and migrants must accept the local British based culture and rules.
            The Australian TV is the best example. You only see Anglosaxon shows. SBS was trying to put something foreign very late at night - but that's all. ABC - basically English channel with Anglo-Australian presenters. The commercial TV - white Anglo channels. All presenters with 'perfect' Aussie accent.
            Not many shows about or by the Aboriginals.

            Also, maybe Australians don't realize that - but Australians are not very hospitable and welcoming people to foreigners. I am sure long term traveller agrees with me on that!!!

  • Married with 2 :

    09 Apr 2010 12:50:22pm

    Branding an entire country with such a tag and an entire State Police Department "Racist" is over emotive and immature. Your selective ranting does you no justice and simply stirs people up for no good reason. Articles like this are inflammatory and create problems where perhaps there were none. If the people you associate with and the area you live in is so heinous in it's flavour, perhaps you should move to another part of the country. There are many places in Australia where people of all persuasions, beliefs and colours live together very happily.

      • no all :

        09 Apr 2010 1:28:12pm

        i agree with you Mw2, why should all orstraliens be branded racists when it is only 99% who are.

      • dubious the third :

        09 Apr 2010 1:30:41pm

        The whole ediface called Australia is based on racist pretexts. Aboriginal Australians were denied property rights, cultural rights et al., even citizenship rights. This has only been partially addressed in areas of Australia where the settlers hadn't already dominated.
        Until 40 years ago, we had the white australia policy.
        It is ingrained into the ozzie culture that this is a christian country, and if newcomers don't like it here, they should go home.
        Shooting the messenger is not likely to change things. How about recognising it for what it is, and then either rejoice in being a racist, or try to address one's own racism.
        I am racist. It's not my fault. I was brought up in Australia. But I am trying to address my inculcated prejudices by firstly acknowledging that they exist, and doing things like writing to your good self.

          • Married with 2 :

            09 Apr 2010 1:51:28pm

            I OBJECT.
            No one should rejoice in being a racist...this feeling/state would not make you warm and fuzzy so you are being absurd. And no one should shoot anyone....ever... messenger or not. There are many things ingrained in our culture, like a fair go for everyone, freedom to say what you think and most "ozzies" will treat a person the way they want to be treated. I've never had a flat tyre and had to change it myself...an "ozzie" always stops to help...some of them have an ozzie accent and some don't, some have had white skin, some have black skin...again open your eyes and look around you, most people in this country are "good" people who don't give a toss what colour your skin is when you meet them.

              • wiley :

                09 Apr 2010 6:38:11pm

                I've never had a Muslim change my tyre for me. Not that I notice what skin colour tyre-changers may be, as is the lefty obsession, just that no-one has ever changed a tyre for me. Guess I must be one of the Good Samaritans who change everybody else's tyres.

          • no all :

            09 Apr 2010 1:54:41pm

            apartied was L.A.W. until 1975 in W.A.
            w.a. is still the most racist state on the planet , attracting british BNP sympathizers and activists plus "terror blanc" from S.A.

            just tune into the ABC nanny every morning and youll get the picture loud and clear.

            has anyone read the wests letters to the editor or any of paul murrays diatribes on "half-castes lately?

              • Felix :

                09 Apr 2010 4:15:40pm

                Can't be any worse than the racist rants in The Koori Times and Aboriginal Land Rights News.

                Aparthied still excists - any service that has Aborignial or Indigenous in it's title excludes people of all other races. The irony is that they are funded by taxpayer $ - contributed to by people of ALL races.

                But that's ok?

              • frangipani :

                10 Apr 2010 1:05:28pm

                Has it dawned on you that if racists are coming to WA from Britain and SA, then maybe those two countries have racism problems of their own?

                And I wouldn't call WA the most racist state in the world until you've spent some time in Japan.

  • PMB :

    09 Apr 2010 12:50:21pm

    I have felt that generally speaking Australia is indeed a racist country, full of xenophobes. Anti-discrimination legislation was introduced to address many of the racist behaviours. However, the covert racist attitudes people harbour are not quite so easy to address. The number of times I have heard my fellow Australians say "I am not racist but ....." and then proceed with some damning racist remark is far too numerous.

    While we are multicultural, we are not egalitarian and by and large Australians like to put people down, especially people who are "different". Admit it!!!!!

      • no all :

        09 Apr 2010 2:01:08pm

        PMB
        the anti-discrination act was brought in to silence critics of israel.

        when was there a conviction for dicrimination againsts blackfellas ?

  • Patrick of Redchide :

    09 Apr 2010 12:29:51pm

    Racism is rife in Australia. It is these for everyone to see in TDT, ACA and much other media, almost, if not every night.

    Wars feed off racism. Just look how much of the media portrays Afghanis and Iraqis for instance. You would wonder from the media what sort of evil sub-human species these people and just look how they treat their women.

    Yet we know we are all members of one race, and one race alone homo sapiens, and a little bit of elementary statistics will show you that the likelihood of their being more people who are smart or moral or evil or whatever in a sample of even a relatively small population of say a million or thereabouts is so close to zero as not to matter.

    That means whatever differences there are between us are cultural or superficial, yet most of the media portrays anything but this situation. The media, of course, being so good at criticising others is very poor at criticising itself and unfortunately generally goes on unscathed.

    To complicate this issue further you have the fascists who think that they have some monopoly on morality or 'goodness' and therefore feel justified in describing others as less worthy.

  • Schmuela :

    09 Apr 2010 11:06:29am

    In my opinion, the major concern in this article is that racism appears to be entrenched within the Police services in some states, possibly all of them. A serving officer of the public, a serving defender of the public should not have agendas in regards to race, religion, gender etc.
    They should be able to perform their duties with clarity and transperancy. Perhaps, we need to ensure that our service men and women, regardless of the department they serve in, are emotionally and physcologically capable of adapting their personal beliefs / conceptions in the workplace.

    I know people who do this every day. As I do. It is not impossible, it takes an openess of mind and a sturdiness of character, a belief in the truth and confidence in your own ability to conduct yourself in a manner that you can be proud of.

  • tony :

    09 Apr 2010 11:04:37am

    Yawn.... here they go again. Australia is a horrible, hate-fuelled, xenophobic bucket of evil Anglo swill. Oh yeah, top to bottom - except those perched on the soapbox at the very top of course, their fingers wagging and their tongues clucking. True Enlightenment must be a wonderful place to be. You know, it would be such a wonderful country (and indeed planet) if all human beings just, you know, "got along" and just, you know, "loved each other". And stuff. But guess what - we don't! There are some of us, like myself, who freely acknowledge that there are differences in the various cultures and sometimes those differences rub up against each other in a less-than-hugs-and-tofu-sharing fashion. This does happen, has happened throughout history and will continue to happen for some time yet dare I say. Humans will continue to evolve and I believe we will evolve beyond territorial boundaries one day. But in the meantime.... wishing we all had dolphin tails and a whalesong for speech will not make it happen any quicker.

      • mate :

        09 Apr 2010 3:13:16pm

        there's not much room on that soapbox judging from these comments. Finally some common sense

  • Jan :

    09 Apr 2010 10:57:35am

    No one knows what the ratio is racist:non- racist but assuming it's there, we must assume it's also in our government institutions.

    The real question is, what are the governments doing about the negative, overt staff behaviour to minority groups? It is certainly a problem in Qld.

  • Marni :

    09 Apr 2010 10:28:07am

    Australia has continuously maintained an ingenious device of an egalitarian paradise facade. And all the while hoping that bigotry would be indescernible and invinsible to the untrained eye. Oh yeah, I was not born here but regretfully(whilst I love Australia), racism still do exists here, be it subtle, subdued, blatant or insinuated.

  • dubious the third :

    09 Apr 2010 10:27:12am

    Why is it that pollies and prominent ozzies deny that Australia is racist?
    Will saying so make it go away?
    If you want to be in de nile, go to egypt.

    Australians easily integrate migrants from the UK, and whites from africa. They fit in nicely.
    Perhaps the only migrant to Australia in the last few centuries that was not racist was William Buckley.
    Q What hope have we got to address racism when it so institutionalised in our social fabric, yet denied?
    A buckley's

  • DocMercury :

    09 Apr 2010 10:14:11am

    At least misanthropy is equitable.

      • VoR :

        09 Apr 2010 12:35:47pm

        LOL Doc.

      • Viking :

        09 Apr 2010 12:54:16pm

        As printed on a T-shirt I saw a teenage kid wearing the other day: "I don't discriminate, I hate everybody"
        Wonder where I can get one? :)

  • Sean M :

    09 Apr 2010 9:58:44am

    Ahhh, the good old invented racism of the left.

    Critical of islam? You're racist.
    Don't like the idea people arriving in leaky boats through criminal gangs on any random beach in northern australia? You're racist.
    Critical of Obama and his policies? You're racist.
    Support the intervention? You're racist.

    This is the oldest trick in the book for people who are not able to rationally debate the issue with someone who disagrees with them. The ad hominem attack.

      • Arrakis :

        09 Apr 2010 10:19:48am

        Prejudice is not criticism. Neither is verbal abuse or physical abuse.

        Spitting on Indians, beating up Africans, locking people up without charge: these things are not the actions of people prepared to have any kind of rational debate.

        The only ad hominem attack I'm seeing here is yours.

          • anne :

            09 Apr 2010 1:00:01pm

            Given the number of indians killed and bashed by other Indians (this includes the little boy murdered by his relative), does this mean that Indians are bloodthirsty and depraved? I think not. In the same way that while there are Australians who are racist, I am not.

            Having said that (and here I go- open to criticism) I am sick of the polyglot of languages spoken in public. Isn't this the same as an Anglo-Australian (hate that term) whispering in the ear of his companion as a non-Anglo is present?

            I am sick of not being able to read shop signs in Chinese or whatever.

            I am sick of being told that I am racist as I buy fuel at a petrol station staffed only by Indians/Pakistanis or have my nails done at a salon staffed only by Asians. What ever happened to the anti-discrimination policy?

              • dubious the third :

                09 Apr 2010 1:41:12pm

                anne
                pretty soon it might dawn on you how many indigenous australians feel

                oh but wait
                thus far you haven't been banned from speaking your native tongue,
                you haven't been educated in schools that assess your performance in a language foreign to you,

                nah
                it'll take a while yet, I guess for you to gain empathy with indigenous australians

                ps that little boy was not killed by a relative, but allegedly by an indian national that was sharing a house with the family

              • mate :

                09 Apr 2010 3:17:02pm

                Yeah, it must be hard trying to get a headstart in life, you know with an education that enables you a better position in life, break the cycle.

          • Sean M :

            09 Apr 2010 1:00:14pm

            If an indian spat on a anglo saxon - is he racist too? An african beating up an italian? Or is this a one way street? You confuse yourself and kill the discussion by labelling every crime on a non white australian as racist.

            If you found out that an indian was robbed and beaten by a fellow indian, would that be just as bad as an indian being robbed and beaten by a white australian? It shouldn't matter should it? Or are you revealing more than you've intended?

      • Monica :

        09 Apr 2010 11:26:43am

        And racists hide behind ad hominem arguments. Behaviour is inferred through series of actions so the behaviour of a racist is determined through a connected series of ad hominem arguments provided through observation. What you just provided was an event based trend analysis of the unconscious racist. You've been watching the news and plotting the course, with a sharp focus on the events that may impact or change your environment. Xenophobia with a liberal splashing of kainotophobia, a strong tonic.

      • no all :

        09 Apr 2010 12:14:46pm

        critical of israel- youre a racist
        critical of israel- youre an anti-semite

        i dont get it .

        why dont critics of blackfellas get their own category?

  • DocMercury :

    09 Apr 2010 9:47:29am

    Australia is not so unique.
    Believing we'd be racism free whilst no one else is, well, this is just delusion, false innocence and naive.

    I don't like any group of people capable of forming a crowd.

      • Sea Mendez :

        09 Apr 2010 11:00:57am

        So why not deal with the real problem which is the way all humans are hardwired, not Australian society? If you want to mitagate address symptoms you need to correctly identify the disease.

        Further, why single out (let's say) 'white bread' Australians when immigrants and other societies often have markedly more racist attitudes? Seems to me the our flamboyant 'anti-racists' are gutless. They hammer away at the minor racists (or those who have made the most progess in addressing racsim) and apologise for aggressive , hard-core, racists.

          • DocMercury :

            09 Apr 2010 3:20:55pm

            The disease is whatever causes the lack of self respect in racists which leads to the need for a culture of comparative superiority to make up for the failure in self respect.

            The same symptom as that for sexism.

            It also appears to be specific to humans, unless there are ant-hive style human pheromone equivalents we don't know about, and something slightly different in the smell of another 'family' generates the human equivalent to a war between hives of wasps of the same species.

            Personally, I doubt very much that this is likely.
            We have territorial disputes which have nothing to do with foreign smell, and rationalize our insect-like behaviour by other means, like "gimme something to feed my army, or we'll just take it and burn down your town in reprisal."

  • lynne :

    09 Apr 2010 9:43:17am

    In my opinion, every country in the world is racist, some to lesser degrees than others. It is the nature of the human race. You can never escape it. As far as Australia goes, it is quite racist as far as I can see, compared to some other countries. We are not the loving, white race that tolerates every nationality as we all would l like to believe. We are very intolerant of the Aboriginal population for heaven's sake! So, why would we not be racist towards others? I have heard many racist comments over the years, from so-called "good" people. Just wake up people and face the truth.

      • wiley :

        09 Apr 2010 12:41:03pm

        Some countries avoid racial tensions by simply not letting foreigners get a look-in, Japan for eg. We call them whalers, but not racists; that's a term the lefties amongst us reserve for Aussies, who come from all the lands on Earth. BTW, have you got something against white skin?

  • Hudson Godfrey :

    09 Apr 2010 9:27:13am

    We're told that we aren't racist but we're tacitly led to believe that xenophobia is okay. There are a collection of code words for it, Border Control ,and illegal immigrants feature heavily in our politician's rhetoric and while they do the message is clear; an appeal in the electorate of ill feeling towards asylum seekers that our politicians pander to stands as a clear proxy for barely suppressed tribalism.

      • Rob Brisbane :

        09 Apr 2010 10:53:14am

        Every country on earth has border control,its not xenophobia, Its all about keeping ensuring that those we allow and welcome into Australia are willing and able to commit to the following pledge.

        From this time forward
        I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
        whose democratic beliefs I share,
        whose rights and liberties I respect, and
        whose laws I will uphold and obey.

        Persons who are willing to break our laws to get here may be precluding themselves, not to mention forcing back the applications of other (perhaps worthier) immigrants who are trying to come here legally.

        Additionally, I dont believe that persons who have paid many thousands of dollars and travelled through a number of countries can fairly claim asylum unless their lives are in danger every step of the way. They should be classed as the illegal immigrants that they are.

          • Hudson Godfrey :

            09 Apr 2010 11:52:19pm

            You have too much to write in justification of an untenable position to be unaware of the pangs of conscience behind your words.

            The system that insists that displaced people for a queue to the left of nowhere land and wait until we choose to do the right thing has no business calling itself humanitarian. Anyone with a moral compass knows that.

            Yes we can only take so many!
            Yes they may be better off if their homeland could be made safe for them!
            But NO it isn't that important to treat the few who arrive here as harshly as we can get away with to try and weasel out of our humanitarian obligations. That we do so based on disproportionate public sentiment against boat people backed by a political discourse where sympathy for their plight is barely mentioned speaks volumes for what principles we appear to lack as a society.

              • frangipani :

                10 Apr 2010 1:09:47pm

                On the other hand, we're one of only three or four countries that goes into the refugee camps in Africa and Pakistan and actually takes refugees for permanent resettlement. Doesn't that mean that the Germans and the Swiss and the Swedes and the Japanese must be more racist than we are? And how about all thoses countries like India and Indonesia that haven't even signed the Convention because they don't want to be lumbered with "outsiders?" Surely that must make them racist too.

              • Hudson Godfrey :

                10 Apr 2010 5:26:32pm

                If I'm to accept you point then I do so being mindful of how it occurs, because mine is a point about racism in Australian public opinion and politics not some standard to be set against the lowest common denominator that you can find among all other nations. If and when we do take people from various refugee camps, as I accept that we have in the past, then it is done quietly and with little or no fanfare or public announcement. It does not for example make the nightly news or figure in election campaigns. What does is a narrow objection to boat people that very much functions wholly and solely as the focus point of issues around immigration. And it is to these issues that I am objecting and the fact that people have been by and large granted permission by government deference to their misinformed views to espouse what amounts to xenophobia at best and racism at worst.

      • VoR :

        09 Apr 2010 11:11:35am

        Are you honestly and openly equating Border Control with racism HG?

        If so, I disagree. But it makes a pleasant change to put it out there in the open where it can be challenged.

        Tribalism is something else. People tend to be tribal on all sorts of levels. Political. Educational. Yes, racial. Financial. Musical. Fashion sense. North Shore/Inner West/Western Suburbs/City/Lower North Shore/Southern Suburbs. Football code. Football team. Lack of football team. City. State. Suburb.

        Country.




          • Hudson Godfrey :

            09 Apr 2010 11:43:29pm

            I'm equating mealy mouthed policies that squeak out of our obligations to offer asylum to people with exactly that! Call it xenophobia or outright racism if you like, but in my book you need better reasons than "F**k off we're full" to deny safe haven to those in what is for the most part quite obviously dire need.

            Nor do I make critical moral distinctions between tribalism and racism. They a both the legacy of an overdeveloped capacity for pattern recognition that was an important evolved survival skill for pre-civilised man.

            Now before you go right off at me; of course we have to weed out the criminals and people of ill character if we can, and I'm railing not against the facts of what happens so much as the coded language for what sets the political tone quite specifically in relation to boat people. Why is it that of approximately 10000-15000 arrivals each year are the nine out of ten who come by air and typically overstay visas of so little interest compared with the really desperate cases who arrive by sea in leaky boats. Does anyone really think that Al Qaeda couldn't afford the airfares?

            I'll repeat myself to clarify if necessary; I object the government pandering to an element in the electorate among who boat people are perpetually unpopular. It is time that we grew up, stood up and had leadership that was about putting this particular prejudice behind us. Sadly and shamefully in my view today's news shows Rudd to be squirming out of doing the right thing as cunningly and disingenuously as Howard ever did.

              • Geoff :

                10 Apr 2010 7:35:11am

                Dear Hudson,

                Methinks you speak true.

                Too often,'non-racists' opine that our policy of 'border-protection' is only that.....

                Too often, men like Wilson Tuckey get no more than a 'tut-tut' when they utter remarks like 'send out the navy to sink the boats' and other such vicious rants.

                Too often - witness many posts here - pious claims of 'being tough but compassionate' provide verbal camouflage for subtle and not-so subtle prejudice in this country......

                Thank you again, Hudson Godfrey.

              • frangipani :

                10 Apr 2010 2:38:40pm

                There's a logical fallacy in your argument - you said we don't care about the overstayers who arrive on planes, but only about those who arrive on boats. But the majority of the people who arrive on planes are non-white as well. Could it be that the different reactions to the two movements are based on something other than racism?

  • Vivienne :

    09 Apr 2010 9:08:04am

    If anyone has a problem, blame John Howard.

      • mate :

        09 Apr 2010 3:19:49pm

        don't forget George W. He hasn't been gone to long yet!!!

      • Bob Lansdowne :

        09 Apr 2010 4:14:32pm

        The Blair House Rodent totally agrees Vivienne, not everyone can be trusted...we must be very selective about whom we trust with racist issues.

      • Felix :

        09 Apr 2010 4:19:06pm

        Why not - it works for Kevin and the unwashed masses that are too lazy to take responsbility or be accountable for their own life choices.

      • Father O'Way :

        09 Apr 2010 10:59:42pm

        Yes Viv, it's so easy, the Little Rodent made himself so blameable as he didn't do anything

  • the yank :

    09 Apr 2010 9:07:27am

    Racist? Looks like it to me.
    How else do you account for Abbott the man of fear and loathing being the leader of the Opposition?
    He quakes at the sight of a gay, boat people, women that do not save their special gift for their men, aboriginals that want to dance and he wants Australia to quake with him.
    What a coward of a hairy chested man.

      • realist :

        09 Apr 2010 10:37:11am

        yank, you are getting very repetative in your hatred of Abbott. Just in case you are not aware Krudd is thee man in charge. How you demand he allow gay marriage, start building a few of the houses he promised, sort out the mess that is currently boat people? After all he has a better chance than Abbott of fixing things, or is it easier to continue to be negative

          • pernickety :

            10 Apr 2010 1:01:45am

            realist,Regardless of which persons or government can or can not "fix things". To me in reading the yank's comment, I take the view that Mr.Abbott is actually fueling the racist negativity. I don't believe the yank has a hatred of Mr.Abbott. Like you, he is merely calling it as he sees it. Nothing wrong with that.

      • no all :

        09 Apr 2010 4:19:04pm

        yank

        the thing about blackfellas is that when no-one else wants a bar of you the blacks will always give you shelter and hospitality.

        says a lot about howard and abbott doesnt it.

      • wiley :

        09 Apr 2010 8:08:12pm

        I'm just looking forward to the day, about a year from now, when Tony Abbott privatises the ABC, so that I'll see a greater % of my posts appearing on this Leftist web-site.

  • K Rudd 's a Dud :

    09 Apr 2010 8:59:06am

    Australia is racist and people like Jessica will continue to tell us so. Why? There is nothing much else left to talk about over their latte's at the coffee shop under where they live. I can almost guarantee that other topics of their conversation would be global warming, the rise of Christian Conservatism, Whaling and what hair colour they will be trying next. More inner city dweller's drivel with way too much time, money and sanctimony on her hands.

      • kendo :

        10 Apr 2010 6:14:38am

        We have developed a seemingly limitless capacity to define people by something other than their behaviour (Ethnicity, political leanings, age, gender, religion, method of arrival, wealth, occupation, music, weight, preferred sport, whether you like sport or not, country of birth, education level, footy teams, beverage preference, fashion, city vs country, inner city vs outer city, weekend pastimes, eating habits, Gen X vs Y vs Boomers, books/films you like, parents vs childless, tattoos, brand/type of car, preferred operating system - you can go on and on).

        In this day and age (and probably all days and ages), humans just don't like other humans very much and will use whatever reason(s) that comes easily to hand to justify this dislike. The media and their obsessive pidgeon-holing of people in their reporting provide us with a handy list of reasons even if we don't have any of our own.

        The problem in Australia and I suspect most parts of the world is not Racism per se, it is stereotyping - Racism is just one of the more obnoxious and obvious forms. End stereotyping and Racism (along with lots of other nastiness) should nicely fade into the background noise.

        Let's treat the disease (ie: we are simply not very nice to each other) rather than the myriad of symptoms. Reading the media with a critical eye (what Chomsky calls "Intellectual Self-Defense") is one treatment I would recommend - it's not going to be a cure but it might help.

        Ultimately, it will come down to people simply deciding that they are going to be nicer to other people.

  • seajae :

    09 Apr 2010 8:33:56am

    why is it that those that want to call australians racist always selectively pick out the bits that support them, the fact that these people are in the minority does not come into it as long as they can be used to make a point. I do not believe that the larger community is racist, there are pockets of racism but in general it is not thought of or bandied about. Selectively picking out racist actions does not back up these fallacies, it appears that those writing for the abc are no longer using actual figures etc to back their claims just heresay and selective accounts, seems they will do whatever it takes to make their claims look realistic just as long as they do not have to be truthful about them.

      • no all :

        09 Apr 2010 4:21:54pm

        seajay
        "these people are in the minority"
        what 49% vs 51%?

        ploise exploine ?

          • seajae :

            09 Apr 2010 11:44:18pm

            49 / 51, where the hell did you drag that from, dont tell me probably the thing you have been sitting on all day, at least that would explain your try at being pauline even though it was done very poorly. Seems you cant even answer simple questions but knowing where your brain is explains it a bit better.

  • Rob Brisbane :

    09 Apr 2010 8:20:02am

    What a load of claptrap, Jessica/Jacinda has cherrypicked a few racist incidents,in which action has already been taken and investigation continues, inferred racism elsewhere in this article, where its unsubstantiated (Nitin Garg). She ignores a recent spate of ethnic violence against their own countrymen and somehow tars us all with the racist brush. now I'm not saying that there are no racists in Australia but to suggest that Australian institutions - the government, the police, immigration, the media, and Australia as a whole actively promulgate racism is nonsense at best,and quite naive. Perhaps Jacinda/Jessica might like to do a bit of research into the activities of police in the countries these immigrant hail from to get a bit of perspective. And on a personal level, as a proud Australian I demand a full apology from Jessica/Jacinda immediately.

      • Earle Qaeda :

        09 Apr 2010 10:11:00am

        "What a load of claptrap, Rob Brisbane has cherrypicked" the standard ozzie white bread retort that things are worse in other places & that subsequently, we have no problem because it is all someone else's fault.

        "Australian institutions - the government, the police, immigration, the media, and Australia as a whole" are made up of... well, Australians! Consequently whatever social & cultural misgivings they have been born & bred with accompany them throughout their daily activities, no matter what lofty ideals rpeface their job descriptions.

        "And on a personal level, as a proud Australian I demand a..." No wait. I've lived a long time abroad & understand a little of what it feels like to be an immigrant. These days I am wary of any pride attached to a national identity. Lordy, that's what football is for.

  • Vivienne :

    09 Apr 2010 7:20:55am

    We are being politically silenced and cleverly controlled not to speak up on immigration issues and a population cap for Australia by being accused of "racism". The issues of population growth are profound and multi-dimensional, and racism is one of them. We are actually a tolerant society and our history is one that supports multiculturalism. There are a few bigots and criminals who target particular races, but generally we are tolerant and respectful. The problem of population growth and sustainability transcends race. Immigration can't continue at the present rate without a backlash.

      • VoR :

        09 Apr 2010 8:19:06am

        I can't help thinking there is a lot of truth in what you say Vivienne. It's hard to see any other point in all these articles. Of course Australia is not going to be the only country in the world without any racists. Totally different from saying Australia is a racist country.
        When it becomes doubly offensive is when all racism, such as the spate of Lebanese-Indian incidents arguably was, is portrayed as white racism.
        Even if there were no racists in Australia today, our policy of massive immigration ensures that we would be importing them tomorrow. This is a legitimate concern about massive immigration.

          • Vivienne :

            09 Apr 2010 12:09:27pm

            The above Vivienne is not the Vivienne you know. I don't think anyone is being politically silenced (apart from the liberals in the Liberal Party). Nice to see you back on Unleashed. Still missing the wit of Atomou and Tomokatu et al. This second Vivienne above refuses to do the right thing and use an original name for posting on the ABC.

              • dubious the third :

                09 Apr 2010 1:59:18pm

                Yes Vivienne
                I actually picked that it was "the other Vivienne".
                Either the Unleashed vetters are unable to stop an identical moniker coming from a different email address, or it's someone using yours.

                Moderator...I know this is a tad off topic, but trust it is worthy of your publishing for the understanding of all.
                Another poster used a case differing spelling of my old moniker, so I became dubious.

              • Vivienne :

                09 Apr 2010 2:59:38pm

                I did an 'alert moderator' when this first started last year. No reply, nothing happened. Seems only the content is moderated (sometimes). If we all had been required to register at the launch of Unleashed this could have been prevented. I've noticed a few others having their name pinched and 'used'.

              • VoR :

                09 Apr 2010 2:21:41pm

                Oh sorry Vivienne. I realised after I responded that it was Vivienne Mark II as the view expressed did not gel with your style.

                I DO think there are heavy pressures not to question massive immigration. I find it remarkable how much in sync "The Left", "Government", "The Right", and "Big Business" are on this issue. For totally different reasons of course.

              • VoR :

                09 Apr 2010 2:24:18pm

                I am indulging, Vivienne. Can't do so for long periods at the moment though. Until the next time.

                Also, I think you'll find that people get disenchanted.

              • Felix :

                09 Apr 2010 4:25:28pm

                Have you stoppped to think that maybe, just maybe, it's her name as well?

                How pretentious.

              • Felix :

                09 Apr 2010 6:20:49pm

                esting, testing, testing tolerance

              • seajae :

                09 Apr 2010 11:49:18pm

                viv, as mentioned elsewhere when you use your real name it is usually common place for other people to also have the same name, I am sure you do not have copyright on it so it is only natural someone else will use their own name at times, get over it or pick out a name others wont use, simple.

              • Vivienne :

                10 Apr 2010 9:16:39am

                Of course I know that seajae but you know jolly well that if a second seajae turned up you too would think it nothing short of rude and I would back you not the other one.

          • Sea Mendez :

            09 Apr 2010 2:15:03pm

            "When it becomes doubly offensive is when all racism, such as the spate of Lebanese-Indian incidents arguably was, is portrayed as white racism. "

            It goes deeper than that. Prior to the Indians those same (self identified) Lebanese were harrassing their 'pre-Indian' neighbours. It was considered white racism if anyone noticed it or talked about it.

      • Earel Qaeda :

        09 Apr 2010 8:53:54am

        "We are being politically silenced and cleverly controlled not to speak up on immigration issues and a population cap for Australia by being accused of "racism""
        - I don't hear anyone telling us to shut up about a population cap. In fact a sensible balanced debate would be very welcome. So long as it equitable addresses internal population growth & does not degenerate into the bog standard Australian tradition of suspicion of immigrants. I for one have had enough with baby bonuses & rights to smother the landscape with unsupportable children.

        "We are actually a tolerant society and our history is one that supports multiculturalism."
        - Keep saying that. We need to keep hearing it. I almost believe it myself. After all, I hang around with some pretty nice folk... mostly. But I also get to hear innocuous little things here & there. I somehow am aquainted with someone who is compelled to forward me every trash racist email they come across. I hear snide remarks & observe fingerpointing & giggly stares whenever I am in the presence of someone wearing a veil or turban.

        "There are a few bigots and criminals who target particular races"
        - I'm not sure which is the more dangerous group of bigots & criminals who target in this way - the Police or the ignorant youth. Either way it is institutionalized.

        "Immigration can't continue at the present rate without a backlash."
        - I suppose it has always had a backlash. In the 50's & 60's a Mediterranean appearance or accent would send shock waves round the suburb. Oh & there was that backlash towards Chinese immigration during the gold rush. But to suggest a the inevitability of a backlash is almost to condone, or even threaten one.

        "The problem of population growth and sustainability transcends race."
        - Exactly. But we will always address it in those terms. If there is a problem it is always simpler to find an external cause & solution rather than to look within at our own misgivings.

  • wiley :

    09 Apr 2010 6:42:37am

    What is it with the Left's obsession with race, and why the need to shout from the roof-tops that we're a bunch of racists, does it make you feel better, now?
    BTW 'Muslim' is not a race, but you can do your bit for the jihad against us by endorsing the introduction of blasphemy laws (as recommended by the Useless Nations HRC) so that no cop can be mean to a Koran again.

      • Antechinus :

        09 Apr 2010 8:29:42am

        wiley, no Muslims are not a race nor are Jews, Celts, Chinese, Afghani or Arabs.

        That does not stop the use of the invective of racism to distinguish these people from us in other than equal terms.

          • bunny :

            09 Apr 2010 1:39:28pm


            Yes, in the same way that the left always denigrates Christians, and Catholics in particular, which in itself is intended as a slur on all white, middle-class, conservative Australians.

            It seems we all have certain groups we love to hate, and your lot are no different, although you deny this. It seems that racism or religious intolerance is perfectly acceptable as long as it is directed against whites and Christians. Left wing arrogant hypocrisy.