after setting up my preferred domain from oshmanbarteck.com to www.oshmanbarteck.com we have vanished from bing - all other search engines have adjusted and have us as we were before - would greatly appreciate any feedback as to resolve issue - states in the webmaster site crawled 10/23/09 but old cached site states 10/20/2009 - have only the 3w with webmaster and have sent updated sitemap
www.oshmanbarteck.com has a 301 "moved permanently" marker on it. Since Bing is awful at following 301s, it wont go any further than the www.oshmanbarteck.com page and then its SERP death
(see here http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=&d=4543521387249742&mkt=en-GB&setlang=en-GB&w=6502a13c,b1891b0c)
If you are saying that www.oshmanbarteck.com is your main URL, then someone has incorrectly set up your 301.
Did you use HTACCESS?
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thank you for your response - let me just clarify - from what I understand I was trying to set up a "preffered domain" - since previously one could enter with the www or without - and this is all the same address - and I only want people to get to the www - and so I looked for some code that would allow me to forward non www to www - in the htaccess file I entered -
Options -Indexes RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^(.*)\.oshmanbarteck\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.oshmanbarteck.com/$1 [R=301,L] is my code wrong - I do not think the code is telling them to put a 301 on the www.address aka "bing serp death" - because bing has it that on the www.oshmanbarteck.com has moved permanently to the same address - they also have http://oshmanbarteck.com moved permanently to the 3 w address - which is what I was trying to attain. I set this up about 2 weeks ago and all went smoth with google.
Options -Indexes
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^(.*)\.oshmanbarteck\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.oshmanbarteck.com/$1 [R=301,L]
is my code wrong - I do not think the code is telling them to put a 301 on the www.address aka "bing serp death" - because bing has it that on the www.oshmanbarteck.com has moved permanently to the same address - they also have http://oshmanbarteck.com moved permanently to the 3 w address - which is what I was trying to attain. I set this up about 2 weeks ago and all went smoth with google.
You have to be careful with HTACCESS and your internet sources! your Google results are showing plenty of URLs without the www. (google listing) Google hasnt re-indexed since the 11th October, so you could be facing SERP death with them soon if errors not corrected.
HTACCESS is for Apache - so I recommend you look at Apaches advice: http://www.askapache.com/apache/mod_rewrite-tips-and-tricks.html
Require the www
Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.oshmanbarteck\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.oshmanbarteck.com/$1 [R=301,L]
Require no wwwOptions +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^oshmanbarteck\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://oshmanbarteck.com/$1 [R=301,L]
Require no www
Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^oshmanbarteck\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://oshmanbarteck.com/$1 [R=301,L]
thank you kindly for this information - except firstly how come other search engines are forwarding the http://o.... to the http://www.o... without the bing issue - what I am not sure of is why on the cached page of bing http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=%22http+oshmanbarteck+com%22&d=4543521387249742&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=6502a13c,b1891b0c
it shows the www address to the www address - do you think this is due to that minor error in the search engine instruction? - and if so once I change the code do you suggest I just resubmit sitemap via the webmaster tools -
also I only have the accouint on bing webmaster a the non www - as all are fowarded to the www - is this correct - so I only set up the account on bing as http://www. - could there be an issue here should i set up both
Im not convinced that other search engines are following your 301 correctly.
For Google, they haven't yet re-cached your site (last cached weeks ago). If you look at the link I posted above, Google still has nearly all of your site without the www in its index.
Bing crawled and re-cached on 20th, your htaccess instruction could be looping - redirecting www to www. I dont know where you found that code - but askapache is a very reliable resource. If you correct this code, you should be fine on the next crawl.
I cant help you about WBT but I would personally only have www.... one if thats the one that you are using.
Yep - just checked Yahoo. Its struggling with your site as well - CLICK HERE
You can check your 301 behaviour HERE - type in your URL. Its in a constant loop.
super - thank you once again - I have made the htaccess file changes and will wait for the next round of crawls - till then
ah but wait - I just checked it after the change and I see - well I am not sure does - this look correct at the 301 search tool - still looks a bit like a loop?
I wouldnt normally do this, but email me your .htaccess file - I'll take a look
We should not have any problems with 301 redirects. We did have some trouble in the past, but I've personally checked redirect chains up to 4 deep and we still did not have problems.
Here is the redirect .htaccess code I use to redirect non-www to www:
Options +FollowSymlinksRewriteEngine onrewritecond %{http_host} ^domain.com [nc]rewriterule ^(.*)$ http://www.domain.com/$1 [r=301,nc]
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steve you can also use canonical tag to point search engines not to cache non-www pages..
<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.domain.com" />
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Looking at his pages, none are caching (I dont think anyway) other than the homepage.....
I initially had the wrong script for the 301 redirect - this has now been resolved with the correct script so that there is no loop - but what might you recommend to get the site listed and visited again - as I have now vanished from search engines - thank you
You'll just need to resubmit your sitemap (suggest you run it again, perhaps using this http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/)
Do you have cpanel access? If so, you can check how often your site is being crawled for an estimation on how long it will take.
Also, you have a bit of SEOing to do
http://www.reactionengine.com/analyse?uri=www.oshmanbarteck.com%2F&keyphrase=physical+Therapy
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