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cuchulainn |
Posted: Nov 7 2005, 12:43 PM
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Huh? what do you mean "It's starting all over again"? Enlighten me. *Do I have to explain my choice of the nickname here?* |
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Patrick Lee |
Posted: Nov 7 2005, 05:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Enlightened Posts: 289 Member No.: 1326 Joined: 10-June 05 |
cuchulainn wrote
Read the previous 100+ posts under this topic and it will become clear. Over the past six months, this topic has been the home of a tremendous amount of rancor and ignorance. Unforunately, most of it has been sparked from a "dialog" between older members of this board and Korean and Japanese teenagers who have been neither patient nor effective rhetors. They get upset because other members of the forum don't buy into the very propaganda they have been taught is true, but which rests on the typically dubious evidence that conspiracy theories usually do. These kids say something that is factually and logically suspect, someone rebutts, they get mad, someone else tells them to get a life, they explode into profanity, someone else mocks them, they react, get baited again, and so on. Every time this topic gets opened back up, the fear of the vicious cycle is renewed. -------------------- I believe in questions, not answers.
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Beowulf |
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 06:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Enlightened Posts: 830 Member No.: 753 Joined: 13-November 04 |
As I had hoped I had made clear in my last post, no. It merely sparked a long lost nostalgia for my irish roots.
Nothing because that statement is itself propoganda. -------------------- "I guess we thought we had to be crazier then everybody else 'cause we were the Irish guys..."
~Mickey Featherstone, Westies hitman "And shepherds we shall be / for Thee, my Lord, for Thee / Power hath descended forth from Thy hand / that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command / So we shall flow a river forth unto Thee / and teeming with souls shall it ever be / In Nomine Patris, Et Fili, Et Spiritus Sancti." ~Family Prayer, Boondock Saints |
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dancing |
Posted: Dec 2 2005, 03:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 30 Member No.: 1890 Joined: 27-September 05 |
This is pathetic. I am half hawaiian/korean and definately its the parents who are all that kids not pure korean, he's a bad influence.
And that picture with the wives and the elders, fcuk those old grimy btches -rant |
real |
Posted: Feb 15 2006, 04:16 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Member No.: 2172 Joined: 15-February 06 |
yeah, the hatred still exist amonst all people. But...i think people are mature enough to think logically...they dont get hatred toward Japanese people (yeah I am korean) I dont hate japanese people. I used to hate the old country Japan which started the war and invaded my country. it s two sided, i hate my country too due to its lack of power to protect its own land.
when you re child, you get to affected by everything you see and easily get believed in it. I used to hate north korea and north koreans..I thought every each person in north korea was evil minded person. Of course there was huge propaganda by government and media and school. but as you grow up, you get to exposed more non-biased history and knowledge and establish your own thought and mind. Yeah lots of korean people dont fond japanese gov not the people.. (they love cute japanes gals and guys haha) The best reason i can think of is....because there are still people who remember the war and the invasion and the sorrow at the time when korea was governed by japan. it is already 60 years ago? no it s been only sixty years ago and our grandpa still remembers it. that s why. it d be really hard to just forgive what japan had done in korea....what they caused in our own land and did to our people. They will forget eventually..and it will take some time to get the real peace btw countries...We ve been invaded by Mongolian too...but it was over 1000 years ago and it s forgotten by the hatred to a new enemy Japan. our history is pretty sad...all with invasions from other countries and acting like a servant to the big bros...like china or now to the US. and to those saying japan already paid back by establishing schools or investing money....yeah right. it s investment. they get more money on it. (i am not gonna talk about it it will be too long) Now young people dont really care about the hatred except when japanese gov talking about the Rock island (Dokdo) It is unfair when your neighbor insists that your tree at your backyard is his...it s just absurd and dont wanna spend another word to talk about it. oh..and another point... what would American kids think about Iranian, North korean which was taught as the axis of evil? they could be smart enough that those people are not responsible for their governments' evilish acts. But...still like seven year old kids who has family or friends died in war in Iraq?..think about it. This post has been edited by real on Feb 15 2006, 04:22 AM |
Beowulf |
Posted: Feb 15 2006, 06:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Enlightened Posts: 830 Member No.: 753 Joined: 13-November 04 |
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Lyrt why haven't you closed this!?! -------------------- "I guess we thought we had to be crazier then everybody else 'cause we were the Irish guys..."
~Mickey Featherstone, Westies hitman "And shepherds we shall be / for Thee, my Lord, for Thee / Power hath descended forth from Thy hand / that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command / So we shall flow a river forth unto Thee / and teeming with souls shall it ever be / In Nomine Patris, Et Fili, Et Spiritus Sancti." ~Family Prayer, Boondock Saints |
Lyrt |
Posted: Feb 15 2006, 08:42 AM
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Because I can’t. I have heavenly powers only in the general discussion forums.
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miso |
Posted: Mar 19 2006, 03:26 AM
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I believe in-school beatings have tapered off in the past half a century in South Korea (now, the teachers just don't care) which is a shame, really, because if I were a schoolteacher, I'd have taken the liberty of beating those kids myself. Thankfully, I don't intend on settling down with a profession in education.
I love jok-bal wrapped in cabbage leaf. To think with all this hatred, we'd continue eating something connected to the Japanese ... Barbequed wae-nom, anyone? It sucks to be Korean sometimes. And, with all those Japanese wives/students apologizing, it doesn't help much in ameliorating what genuine pride we have left.
Adding upon this observation, maybe those teachers should also improve upon their Geography curriculum for there are no major volcanoes in the northern regions of the DPRK.
And, you think that the LDP, with right-wingers like Aso and Abe, would approve a textbook detailing Japan's dark past. I'm not implying that the ROK or China wouldn't do the same with their textbooks; much of Northeast Asia continues to tread in fodder at waist-deep and conditions don't seem to be improving. |
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Lyrt |
Posted: Mar 19 2006, 09:39 AM
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The LDP would and they actually did. -------------------- Are you new? Read the shiny rules and make mom and dad happy!
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miso |
Posted: Mar 19 2006, 07:15 PM
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But, that is contrary to their belief that using such texts would be downright "masochistic history," something the Nationalists strongly oppose, hence the 2001 and Spring 2005 fiascos. |
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Lyrt |
Posted: Mar 19 2006, 08:19 PM
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Informative. Group: Enlightened Posts: 1686 Member No.: 198 Joined: 18-March 04 |
Masochistic history is an expression coined by Nobukatsu Fujioka and I wouldn’t say that every member of the LDP would accept it as it is more a slogan than a complex interpretation of Japan’s textbooks.
Oh, but I remember I started a thread about the textbook issue here. This post has been edited by Lyrt on Mar 19 2006, 08:19 PM -------------------- Are you new? Read the shiny rules and make mom and dad happy!
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서재현 |
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Hello, you. I am a middle school student of the Korea. Japanese has come and American seems to have come. Do you know that journalize you in Tokto Island problem to like that children why? Because its Japan government insists continuously that Tokto Island of Tokto Island is Japan land that way though there are clear evidences called Korean land. There was general named a director department in the old South Korea, he conquered umbrella nation, that is, present Ullungdo. Tokto Island that belonged of umbrella department is become Korea's land because finally, is conquered together. Also, in ancient times, Tokto Island becomes Hangukttang to map that Doyotomi Hideyosi that unified Japan makes. Japanese governmental barbarity this be. Because they invade land of our country once upon a time, they colonize and made our country people very hard. German government apologized to the invading countries, but Japan government published a text book that is been back history distortion that developed our country through plunder to students preferably. Also, will not Koreans get angry justly as Junichiro Koizumi premier forces Tokto Island that be Yaseuku or prayed Shrine worship and is Korean land now that is Japan land? And work, duty plain, these pictures see Japanese barbarity through the press and it is are yearning voluntarily children and not thing which the Korean Government tries to stir up anti-Japanese sentiment to children. I had gotten angry at Japanese Tokto Island absurd remark to an elementary school pupil who do Jeotto. I wish you had understood this by all means. Tokto Island is Korean land.
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Lyrt |
Posted: Apr 1 2006, 08:57 AM
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That's so cute. I understand umbrella nation is dear to your heart and I hope it will soothe your mind on those rainy days. Bwahaha. Edit: you’ve just posted that same message four times in three different threads. Please, please, don’t do that again, thank you. This post has been edited by Lyrt on Apr 1 2006, 09:02 AM -------------------- Are you new? Read the shiny rules and make mom and dad happy!
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Beowulf |
Posted: Apr 1 2006, 11:44 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Enlightened Posts: 830 Member No.: 753 Joined: 13-November 04 |
Holy crap, that thing reads like a spam email.
Thanks Yoda!
Ew.
So did you draw one of the pictures or what? Cause if your a middle school student then your a pretty good example of how a nations propoganda can affect its youth. -------------------- "I guess we thought we had to be crazier then everybody else 'cause we were the Irish guys..."
~Mickey Featherstone, Westies hitman "And shepherds we shall be / for Thee, my Lord, for Thee / Power hath descended forth from Thy hand / that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command / So we shall flow a river forth unto Thee / and teeming with souls shall it ever be / In Nomine Patris, Et Fili, Et Spiritus Sancti." ~Family Prayer, Boondock Saints |
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Patrick Lee |
Posted: Apr 2 2006, 12:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Enlightened Posts: 289 Member No.: 1326 Joined: 10-June 05 |
Any guesses on whether this was written in hangul and translated via Babelfish or the like?
-------------------- I believe in questions, not answers.
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tats |
Posted: Apr 20 2006, 02:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2303 Joined: 20-April 06 |
appearently Japan's going to go to the Liancourt rocks some time this month for an environmental research, "without Korea's permission". Korea fears that this is a "step toward invasion" of the Liancourt rocks, and they are practically smoking mad.
japan's argument - "well, its not yours in the first place why bother asking your permission? shall we take the decision of this to UN?" korea's argument - "Dokdo is Korea's property and if you enter our EEZ, we will attack, and survivours will be nuked.(well actually they just said "capture") btw we dont follow UN rules anymore so you can't tell on UN, thiefs!" |
Beowulf |
Posted: Apr 20 2006, 06:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Enlightened Posts: 830 Member No.: 753 Joined: 13-November 04 |
You should repost this in its own topic, the last thing we need is to give people another reason to come to this landmine of a thread.
-------------------- "I guess we thought we had to be crazier then everybody else 'cause we were the Irish guys..."
~Mickey Featherstone, Westies hitman "And shepherds we shall be / for Thee, my Lord, for Thee / Power hath descended forth from Thy hand / that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command / So we shall flow a river forth unto Thee / and teeming with souls shall it ever be / In Nomine Patris, Et Fili, Et Spiritus Sancti." ~Family Prayer, Boondock Saints |
Gord |
Posted: Apr 20 2006, 07:59 PM
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He is my doom! Group: Admin Posts: 2400 Member No.: 1 Joined: 25-October 03 |
Unless someone changed the lawbooks recently, entering a country's EEZ is fine and dandy for anything except commercial harvesting.
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tats |
Posted: Apr 20 2006, 08:52 PM
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really!? cool, so you could technically just have a little swim over to the neighbouring country's EEZ and "take a closer look" to it, unless you land your foot on it? >>Beowulf um, sorry... |
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miso |
Posted: Apr 21 2006, 07:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 31 Member No.: 2235 Joined: 18-March 06 |
Apparently, foreign vessels--be it air or water--need clearance from the Korean government to approach the islands.
Some no-name country should just come in and obliterate the rocks. |