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October 8, 2009 9:20 AM PDT

Microsoft introduces 'Starter' version of Office

by Ina Fried

Aiming to turn more new PC buyers into Office users, Microsoft has announced plans for several new ways to obtain the software, including an ad-supported "Starter" edition that can come loaded on new PCs.

In a blog posting Thursday, Microsoft said the starter version of Office will have limited features and include only Excel and Word. The starter version will be part of the Office 2010 family, due out next year, and will only be available on new PCs.

"Office Starter 2010 will provide new PC owners with immediate exposure to the Office 2010 experience on new PCs right out of the box," Microsoft said, adding that it can be upgraded to one of several full versions of Office with a new upgrade card to be sold at retail stores.

The product is a replacement for Microsoft Works, which was Microsoft's low-cost option for PC makers that wanted to include basic productivity software. Microsoft had also quietly tinkered with a free, ad-supported version of Works in recent years.

Office Starter, as opposed to Works, will have full file compatibility with Office as well as features like the 'Ribbon' user interface.

"It really is a replacement for Works," Microsoft corporate vice president Takeshi Numoto said in an interview on Thursday. "It is not a mere renaming of Works. It is an Office product."

Microsoft is trying several ideas to better compete with free rivals such as Google Docs. With Office 2010, Microsoft will also offer a free, ad-supported version of Office that runs in a Web browser. That product, which went into a technology preview last month, requires connection to the Internet at all times.

"It's a way for us to reach customers who may have not experienced Office before, (for them) to get a taste of it," Numoto said.

For years now, Microsoft has grappled with new ways of selling Office, which, along with Windows, is one of the company's two main profit engines. Although Office boasts half a million users, there are lots of folks that use pirated copies of the software or don't have Office at all.

Several years back, as part of a ThinkWeek paper seen by CNET News, Microsoft workers recommend that the company scrap Works in favor of an ad-supported product, saying Microsoft only got a couple dollars of revenue per PC when Works was included.

Numoto would not go into financial details for Office Starter, but did say that it is a "royalty-bearing" product for Microsoft, as Works was. In the past, though, PC makers have had an opportunity to earn back money if customers upgrade from a trial version of Office to the full version. Numoto wouldn't detail how that might work with Office Starter.

Microsoft is also trying out a new method for those that already have a PC to try out Office 2010, once it is available. Called "Click to Run," it brings the notion of streaming to software. Instead of waiting for the whole product to download, users can click a button and start using the software as soon as some of the basics are downloaded. The rest of the product then gets downloaded over time.

Microsoft has already seen the Web increase as a means for getting its software. Numoto said that in the last fiscal year some 23 million downloads of the Office trial, nearly double the number from a year earlier.

Still, he said, downloading a big file means a long wait. "We know we could do a lot better to streamline that experience," he said.

An additional benefit of the Click to Run installation is that it is done through application virtualization. That allows the code, even though it is still being run locally, to run side-by-side with an existing version of Office. That would allow, for example, a user to run a trial version of Office 2010, without getting rid of their existing Office installation.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by cbscowards October 8, 2009 9:44 AM PDT
Back in the mid to late 90's nearly every PC sold came with a full version of Office, for "free". (Of course you were paying $2000-3000+ even for low-end PCs). That was how Office took off in market share, becoming the de facto standard. I'm not sure how many people will put up with ads popping up or taking valuable screen real estate. There are too many low-cost or free alternatives that support the Office document formats now.
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by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 9:51 AM PDT
Indeed - advertisements? No frickin' thank you.

One point, though - back then, you could get the full Office version (which was bundled in the price), or you got Works (which wound up being crippled pretty heavily).
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
@Random_Walk:

Might I point your attention to the right side of the screen here where there are advertisements that help pay for CNET to be around? You're not exactly paying anything to be here because of those ads.
by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
...all I see is the big white space that AdAware generates in their places. ;)

Your point is kind of strange though, considering that there is OOo and lots of free alternatives out there which do not blare adverts in your face just for writing a document. You'd think that Microsoft would be content with sending along a stripped version of Office 2k3 and call it good, instead of trying to angle for ads (which few people tolerate).

Also, consider that adverts + Web is generally tolerated and accepted by the typical user - part and parcel of being online, and sites that get too crazy with adverts tend to get ignored (or get their ads scripted into oblivion, as I and a lot of others using Firefox do).

Apps on the desktop are another story... see also Bonzi Buddy's demise, or the decline of RealPlayer client usage as an extreme example or two. Some folks do use AVG (the free version has ads, IIRC), but they aren't staring at the thing after they set it up, except on the rare occasions where they have to change a setting.
by Sausagebiscuit October 8, 2009 2:29 PM PDT
Well played Random_Walk. <3 adblock.
by rcrusoe October 8, 2009 3:40 PM PDT
"Back in the mid to late 90's nearly every PC sold came with a full version of Office, for "free"

Where were you buying your computers? I must have purchased a couple of thousand PC's (from IBM, Dell, HP, and Compaq) since 1993 and can't remember ever getting a free copy of MS Office. Many came with MS Works which we immediately deleted, but even packages like MS Office SBE cost something.

As far as home users are concerned, IMO, most run whatever comes on the computer, which is the only reason Internet Explorer still has the lions share of the browser market. Which means if their kid can do his homework on the ad supported version they'll use it.

One big reason netbooks are so popular these days is because most people don't need word processors & spreadsheets. They just surf, tweet, buy stuff, email the same tired jokes and rumors, and spread viruses.
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
@Random_Walk:

My point being that people are used to seeing ads these days for sites and services they use. I don't see a problem with having ads on a sidebar if it means they get to use a product they want. That becomes a choice of that customer.
by make_or_break October 8, 2009 9:41 PM PDT
Free Office? Where? Even back in the early '90s when it was EASY to spend $10-12k on a single desktop workstation, Office installs were never free. Bundled in yeah, but always an extra cost add-in.
by symbolset October 9, 2009 11:21 PM PDT
I can't wait until some poor salesman is doing a presentation and hits the advertising slide, or who sends an email with a sponsored trailer "this email provided by Microsoft Office (nagware). Where do you want to go today?".

Look, a document in English is glyphs on a page, arranged from left to right in rows from top to bottom. Pages may have one, two or three columns, and some space on the page may have bitmapped graphics, and we may want to describe irregular regions for our word wrap to protect these images. We like to have consistent display and printing of our documents. Once in a blue moon we may want to do a mail merge, spreadsheet integration or database lookup. We reached that level of technology in 1989. It's now 20 years later. What have we done since? Average typing speed is slower, the cost of hardware is lower, but the average office worker is no more productive in a pages-per-day sense.

We need to get our heads around the idea that documents are a solved problem. We don't need to spend money to use the technologies that our parents grew up on because that's stuff is old school now. If Microsoft offers some (weird) new utility that does interesting new stuff, that might be something. But for now glyphs in a row in columns that wrap arount areas of relevant images isn't something we need Microsoft's help with because everybody does that.
by BigGuns149 October 10, 2009 12:49 PM PDT
I have to agree with the point that Office was rarely bundled with computers and even than one was usually paying the vast majority of the retail cost for it. It was only "free" in the sense that one didn't see the sticker price of adding it into their bundle. MS Works has been bundled with a lot of computers going back to the early 90s, but Office was rarely bundled with computers.

Despite a lot of the flak that people gave Works for a lot of average home users Works was good enough. Even in the late 90s I remember some editor at PC World argued that 90% of users of MS Word used about 10% of the features. If it wasn't true then it probably is now.

The reality is that these days it is a lot harder to hide even an extra $100 into the price of a computer to add Office Student and Home or Office Basic. For a lot of people Office 2003 if not Office 2000 is good enough. For Office their biggest competitor with perhaps the exception of pirated copies is the older versions of their own software. Plenty of people still use Office 2003, Office XP, and even in some cases Office 2000. While there are some bona fide reasons to upgrade for some people, there are a lot of people who are working fine with their existing versions and even at a 50% discount off of retail they would rather just install their old copy of Office.
by AnonymousCommenter October 8, 2009 9:46 AM PDT
They need to include a functioning version of outlook as well.
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by sanenazok October 8, 2009 10:30 AM PDT
For a budget minded home user? Uhm no.
by rationalreview October 8, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Outlooks is great, it functions just fine, what do you mean?
by atomD21 October 8, 2009 6:52 PM PDT
He means that the large majority of consumers use the web for email. Most people I know wouldn't even know how to set outlook up, let alone use it afterward. Word and Excel is a perfect pair as most of the office usage by mainstream consumers is done on those two programs.
by streamline35 October 9, 2009 12:15 AM PDT
Outlook? Hah! I'm sticking with thunderbird.
by tubaloth October 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT
Thats what there Live E-mail is. Its free (and pretty crappy) but its what Outlook express use to be.
by Rolker October 8, 2009 9:47 AM PDT
Sounds interesting. Most Office user that I know don't need all the futures included in Office.
I think that this may be a nice way to keep Office users (it's free, and it is a known environment), while fulfilling the needs of most users.
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by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 9:52 AM PDT
Depends on how much you actually like seeing advertisements blaring on your computer, and on how much real-estate those ads will eat.
by jessiethe3rd October 8, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
@Random_Walk
I would imagine the advertising is much like GoogleDocs is online... Collection of your information and driving market driven content based on keyword matches. Personally I wouldn't want it but it's good to have options I guess...
by ewsachse October 8, 2009 10:17 AM PDT
@Random_fool



No where did the article say that Microsoft was going to put ads into this version of office. It only mentions that they had an ad version of Works, and that Microsoft workers suggested an ad version of Office over Works.



[CNET editors' note: Prohibited content deleted.]
by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
That's the hard part, and a good question- is it info collection (yuck), or taking up some desktop to show you adverts (ditto)?

Opera used to have an ad-supported free version that showed a perpetual banner advert at the bottom of the window. No idea how Microsoft will handle it (though how did they do their free ad-supported Works version? Probably the best indicator).
by Grifter02 October 8, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
@ewsachse

I think you need to work on YOUR reading comprehension. The first paragraph says "Microsoft has announced ... an ad-supported 'Starter' edition."
by pradhanavs October 8, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
@ewsachse

"Aiming to turn more new PC buyers into Office users, Microsoft has announced plans for several new ways to obtain the software, including an ad-supported "Starter" edition that can come loaded on new PCs."

Please get your GLASSES...
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
Ad supported applications are nothing new. Will it succeed? Probably. If I had a choice between Works and an ad-supported Office, I know which one I'd take without even thinking twice about it.

Of course it all depends on how blatant the ads are. We are so used to having ads on web pages now, that I doubt people would really pay much attention to them in an application either.

For those folks like Random_Walk who is against the idea of ads no matter what, then they can use Open Office.
by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
@ewsachse:

Err, nevermind... you already got schooled pretty hard. :)

--

@Dan:

"Of course it all depends on how blatant the ads are"

Err, said that already. :)

"We are so used to having ads on web pages now, that I doubt people would really pay much attention to them in an application either."

Opera ditched their ad-loaded free browser and replaced it with an ad-free free version due to the fact that no one wanted to deal with the adverts in the app. Real Player suffered a similar fate, going from everyone's music/audio player to being something that no one wanted to touch.

Big diff between web pages and local applications.
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 3:45 PM PDT
@Random_Walk:

I think Opera burned their reputation from the outset when they were charging for their browser, which was not as good as the existing free alternatives. Get a bad rep from the geeks who were likely the few who would have heard of, let alone use Opera, and you get signed away into obscurity.

It's something Microsoft will have to be aware of if they don't want to repeat Opera's mistakes.
by Random_Walk October 9, 2009 4:56 AM PDT
"I think Opera burned their reputation from the outset when they were charging for their browser, which was not as good as the existing free alternatives."

Almost - they started with two versions - the paid-for version, and an initial ad-supported free version.

Something does come up, though - back then, most consumer screen resolutions were (at best) 1024x768, and the banner ads (plus the UI elements to support them) literally ate ~10% of the screen at that rez.
by Mark_Anderson October 9, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
@Random

No-one cares. It's free.
by Super2online October 8, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
This is a terrific development. It should be a great adjunct to the web version that now provides two options for reading and basic editiing of the most popular products in Office. I my line of work I run into many young people that don't have Office which always complicates work related projects.
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by ColinABQ October 8, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
Indeed, I see file compatibility as perhaps the biggest potential win here for all parties. I sometimes wonder how many gazillion hours have been spent, particularly by students and educators, though often in the workplace as well, managing "Works to Word" and/or "Works to Excel" conversions. This will allow immediate compatibility between home and school or home and office, for those who cannot afford the full version of Office at home, saving huge amounts of time and effort. For Microsoft's part, the more people they can get using _ANY_ flavor of office, the better off they are, obviously.

Meanwhile, the fact that this apparently won't be downloadable, coming only on new PCs, is a bit of a bummer. I don't know much about the trial versions of office; are they any more or less limited than this new version? Are they time-limited? Do they nag chronically? I also don't know which version -- trial or starter -- might ultimately result in more paid upgrades, and I'm sure that's a factor for Microsoft. Lacking answers to those questions, I sure wish they'd make this downloadable, but doubt that they will.
by atomD21 October 8, 2009 6:58 PM PDT
Typically, the Office trials are 60 days, and then it essentially locks it off.
by jessiethe3rd October 8, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
I like the real DRILL down by CNET on the ad-support view. Let's be honest here - every "free" offering by Google, Yahoo, or any other free 'Office Suite' (with the exception of OpenOffice) is ad-supported. I think it's a smart move by Microsoft - you get the stuff you want without paying an upfront cost.

Personally I think that ad-support software is bad in general... opening your life up even further to the world of advertising means a loss of more privacy at the expense of getting something "free." Sure one could argue that the current internet commerce trend is totally pointed towards advertising (to Google current and future delight), however, in my mind, privacy and your personal being is much more important than using a product for "free."

At the end of the day consumers do win, however. It's nice to have options!
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by sharmajunior October 8, 2009 9:58 AM PDT
They should take out outlook express and windows mail and replace them with a limited working version of Outlook
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by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 10:28 AM PDT
Heh - they'd have to have every ISP on the planet start supporting MAPI in order to make it at least somewhat useful to the consumer... not gonna happen there. :)
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:27 AM PDT
......or just use Windows Live which gives you that now.
by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
He was talking about a local app, not web-based. :)
by Lennron October 8, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
Windows Live Mail is a local app
by Random_Walk October 8, 2009 3:22 PM PDT
oops - my bad. You are correct. For some reason I kept thinking of just the web-based version.
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 3:57 PM PDT
Windows Live has expanded greatly and has offline versions of many of the features now. Think of it like a MobileMe but without the yearly fees.
by nafhan October 8, 2009 10:07 AM PDT
Word and Excel are all I use at home, and I think that goes for a lot of people. How successful this is will come down to two things.
1. How obnoxious are the ads? If they do something along the lines of a splash screen ad during app start up, I'm fine with that. Ubiquitous banner ads would kill the deal for me, though.
2. How limited are these versions of Word and Excel? The best thing to do would be to choose between limited versions and ads, and do one or the other. At a minimum, though, they need to meet the feature set of Google docs.
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by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:28 AM PDT
This is a good point. I don't use anything other than Word or Excel myself, and even then exceedingly basic needs at that for my home use. A limited version would likely still be more than I could ever find a need for in my situation. I'm definitely not a power user by any means when it comes to office apps.
by slickuser October 8, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
You are lame Microsoft! Why not just sell ad-free starter version for $9.99?
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by jessiethe3rd October 8, 2009 10:28 AM PDT
And why exactly would a company who has spent billions of dollars investing give something away (basically that's what $9.99 is.) Would you please sell me your car for $9.99! Yeah you paid for it and bought it for $25,000 but I would like it for free because you are known as a wealthy man.

I swear sometimes people amaze me with their ignorance.
by slickuser October 8, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
dude, it is not worth more than that.
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:30 AM PDT
To be fair and to make Slickuser's comments be appropriate, then Microsoft should disclose how much money they make from running ads on a single version of this product throughout its projected lifespan and charge that to the customer.

Somehow I think it will be a bit more than $9.99. Heck, I suspect it would be more than buying Office at full retail price. But if that is their choice, so be it.

As for what things are worth, Slickuser's comments and opinion are worth exactly what I paid to see them here on CNET.
by Sausagebiscuit October 8, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
jessiethe3rd: Uhm, this happens all the time. Google spends (as you say) 'billions of dollars' and offers some really neat stuff for free. Yes, less than $9.99. Your ignorance amazes me.

P.S. People do give away cars.
by lewac October 8, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
openOffice has a freebee version of their excellent package for all versions of windoze. why pay for something you don't need? uhh... no ads either. never could understand the usage of microdoze glut when there are so many free (and quicker and more robust) alternatives nowadays.
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by jessiethe3rd October 8, 2009 10:30 AM PDT
Oh yes... love the copy cat version of OpenOffice - instead of invent anything they try to take a page out of Microsoft's book and just create a copy cat version of the suite. Companies don't standardize on it because well... let's be honest here - it's missing components, it isn't 100% compatible, it is slow and wonky.
by sanenazok October 8, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
No ads, but you get OpenOffice. I *really* tried using it and have it on my laptop, but I loathe it for its slowness, clunky UI, clunky way to insert special characters, and endless annoyances. OpenOffice would be fine if it was being compared with Office 97, but not in 2010. I know some people use it, especially European governments, but they're not exactly known for ultra-productivity.
by HippyNerd October 8, 2009 10:49 AM PDT
OpenOffice is fully Office 2007 compatible, as easy to use as good ole Office 2003, as robust as 99% of home/student/small businee needs, a tiny 70MB download, and one last little thing...it's free! Those bashing it should use it for a week first. It came with my netbook and I've switched to it completely over Office 2007 Pro. It's free, too.
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:32 AM PDT
That's a great suggestion! What is OpenOffice's 24/7 toll free helpdesk number again? I know that my grandparents will likely have questions on how to use a text editor and that means having a support line to call.

If you can provide that 24/7 toll free helpdesk number, I can give it to them now and help them out greatly.
by Donniebrasco October 8, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
You can't tell me its fully compatible. For Word docs, its pretty good. I never had any potential employer comment on my OpenOffice created .doc resume being screwed up when they viewed them. Nor do I have problems with work I take home. For Powerpoint and Excel, it gets messy real quick. If I open up forms created in Excel in OpenOffice, they are all out of whack. Powerpoint revisions I've made in OpenOffice and then opened in Powerpoint the next day are also usually screwed up.

I refuse to pay for a full version of MS Office Pro, especially when its just for doing work at home. If my company really wants me to be able to work at home, they can get me a laptop with the software on it.

Now, if I could buy Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Outlook for say....$60, I would go and get it on my own. I suppose I could borrow my younger brother's .edu account and ID.
by Ordeith October 8, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
@Donniebrasco:

Businesses have the option of enabling the Home Use Program through their volume licensing of Office.

With this program, extending the corporate Office license to an employee's home PC costs $25. If you do so much work from home I highly suggest you and your company look into it.

We use the program here for our employees and it is a great to be able to offer it.
by Sausagebiscuit October 8, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Vegaman Dan: http://www.support-central.org/openoffice/
For a mere $19.99 you can get phone support.

Surely you won't mind paying for support, right? After all if you pay for something, it must be better and have a value compared to something that is free.
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 4:00 PM PDT
@Sausagebiscuit:

OpenOffice is free, but you pay for support.
You pay for Office, but get support for free.

Support Central is set up for individual user assistance, but not for corporate / enterprise level needs. That could change however if they see a demand for it, I would imagine.
by Gianni_Simplicio October 8, 2009 10:52 PM PDT
I love OpenOffice and think it's the greatest thing since GIMP. I guess people get upset when they realize they paid $200 for something they could have gotten for free. Its not that I hate Office. I just think it's absurd to pay tribute to Microsoft just so you can save their new .docx files which, far as I can tell, don't add any functionality over .doc format.
by Weudel October 9, 2009 5:09 AM PDT
@vegaman

This is the STARTER edition... it is not intended for those that would need Corporate or Enterprise level support... stay on topic, will ya?
by n25philly October 9, 2009 12:11 PM PDT
Someone wake me up when open office becomes even half the software microsoft office is. I plan on having a very long sleep here.
by -fjtorres- October 8, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
"Although Office boasts half a million users, there are lots of folks that use pirated copies of the software or don't have Office at all. "

Uh, half a million sounds a tad low for the Office installed base.
Last I heard Office generated 16 Billion dollars a year; that's a lot of revenue for half a million users...
Might that be half a *billion* users?
Just wondering...
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by kaibelf October 8, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
I noticed this too. AFAIK it's 500mil users roughly at present worldwide.
by the_ricochet October 8, 2009 5:15 PM PDT
i was going to comment on this as well. i think she meant billion.
by tyshockner October 8, 2009 11:20 AM PDT
You know what needs to happen... OEM's need to just put OpenOffice on all the new products. The people will have a functional productivity suite and with no additional costs. Plus OO can open Microsoft docs.
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by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 11:34 AM PDT
OEM's are free to do so, but are they willing to support it when customers have questions on how to use it? Will those OEM help desk personnel be able to spend the time teaching people how to use it over the phone, or will they be able to point customers to a 24/7 toll free help desk number instead?
by tsi26 October 8, 2009 12:05 PM PDT
@Vegaman_Dan

What's MS Office support number? Just curious, cause after surfing over MS Office site and googling it, I can not find a 24/7 telephone number to call. Though, I only looked for a couple of minutes.

Link please!
by Sausagebiscuit October 8, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
I think you have to call the generic line, 1-800-Microsoft.

OpenOffice (via Sun Microsystems) has $19.99 phone support: http://www.support-central.org/openoffice/
by Vegaman_Dan October 8, 2009 4:09 PM PDT
@SausageBiscuit:

That $19.95 price is for a single help desk session and is a promotional price only. I can't find on their site what the regular price is, only options to have Sun contact you to discuss your support purchase plan options to better suit your needs both now and in the future- in other words, a sales rep.

I was wrong earlier though- they do offer enterprise level support, and once again, you can call them to have a meeting to discuss pricing plans based on headcount or workstation/licensing.

None of this helps if you have a problem right *now* and need assistance. Hmm.

It's not bad, but it isn't very customer friendly either. It's like having to go through the used car salesman first b
by mscarn October 8, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
If you watch the Starter video that's linked to up above, at 1:05 and at 2:50 it shows the advertisement in a pane on the right side of the screen.
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by dadsgravy October 8, 2009 12:31 PM PDT
It's one thing to download free/trial software that is ad supported, but to have your new computer come with that stuff, that's just tasteless. And greedy.

And that's Microsofts problem, they have no taste. I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way.
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by RompStar_420 October 8, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
openoffice.org does everything you could want pretty much, so ya it don't support VBA programming, but it does support other languages, there is a list to choose from.

And its free, you can start a spreadsheet and use formulas, functions, what not, it all works.

$0
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by c_payne October 8, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
<I>by mscarn October 8, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
If you watch the Starter video that's linked to up above, at 1:05 and at 2:50 it shows the advertisement in a pane on the right side of the screen.</I>

When Net Neutrality finally catches on, the user of "Starter Office" will have to pay
for those ads to be loaded in Starter Office via their ISP. Factor that into the cost of owning
the copy of Starter Office.

There will inevitably components missing from Starter Office which will drive the
user back to the store to purchase their next copy of MS OFFICE in order to
fulfill their needs.

StarOffice(pay for version of OpenOffice) has full support and similar features to
MS OFFICE for home. Except for the VB Scripting found only in Excel. Talk
about managing a monopoly!
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by mrbofus October 8, 2009 1:17 PM PDT
So what are the limitations?
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by luke_marsh October 8, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
I know they upgraded the Starter version as to not limit the amount of applications but in the market this sort of thing is intended for don't they risk making their future consumers feel like a lower class who can't afford full versions. Such people might turn to alternatives like open source where they are more considered equals. Wouldn't Microsoft do better to work more on the aspects of training for such consumers than potentially demeaning them. In a sense I would be better to train and accept a degree of pirate copies for now than it would to try and potentially make people in developing economies feel like an under class. One could say that allowing more pirate copies to be is demeaning but it's more subtle that to directly only be able to afford a starter version of something. Personally I'd remodel the program and work more on the training aspects than this model of commerce.
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by Sausagebiscuit October 8, 2009 2:28 PM PDT
Anyone want to actually read this block of text and respond?
by srminton October 8, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
you are wrong to suggest that the only application of this commercial model will result in the inevitable consequence of lowering the self-image of people who cannot afford to purchase the higher featured versions of this packaged software application as though this was a directly intentioned strategy on the part of Microsoft to separate their customer segments into these partitions when it's clearly more designed as a marketing strategy on the part of the software vendor to maximize its presence in the lives of these people who may or may not be determined to use open source alternatives and may not live in developing parts of the world where pirated software is so commonplace and I wonder why you interpret this fairly standard corporate behavior in such a manner but perhaps you are right that future consumers will view Microsoft in a negative light because of this move although it seems unlikely to me given that all they are really doing is slightly altering a strategy which they have used for many years under another name and which is designed to get people using their software rather than jumping straight to free alternatives when they purchase a new PC but personally I'd remodel training aspects of the people who can't afford full versions so that they might do otherwise given the right information to guide their choices
by censorshipblows October 8, 2009 3:29 PM PDT
Yeah ummm, no thanks, I'll stick with Google Docs.
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by exactlyy October 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT
thats just weird ,
most of the guys here who're claiming to be against ads, have no problem using google chrome , where you cant block ads, and after a few days of installing it , ads w'll start show even on your desktop ..
and most of them were so happy for the Chrome OS .
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by zeroplane October 8, 2009 4:49 PM PDT
I am sure this has already been stated but, google docs and of course Open Office rule! I see no reason to use Micro$oft's office products any more.
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by daas88 October 10, 2009 9:46 AM PDT
I agree with you, there's some free and full functional alternatives around =)

And i won't ever get tired of pointing how pathetic is windows. Come'on, having to pay a lot of money for an incomplete product, and needing to spend a lot more on it to make it fully functional and usable.

There's plenty of free and open source alternatives that come with all the essential software already in the live cd.
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