Equality Now Demands UN Hentai Ban
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Jul 24, 2009 19:18 JST
- Tags: Censorship, Eroge, Feminism, Lolicon, Mass Media, Misandry, Raep, USA
Feminist crusader group Equality Now’s latest moralist histrionics take the form of a strongly worded letter to the UN accusing Japan of being rape heaven, and demanding a ban on hentai and other forms of pornography “harmful to women.”
The letter tells the UN’s feminist arm CEDAW, the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women, to tell Japan in no uncertain terms that it is a bad country which is oppressing women, and there are a number of laws it must enact in order to appease American feminists.
Here is the summary of their rather lengthy screed, which can be read in full here (PDF version):
Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.
Japan is nation where courts let rapists go free with a slap on the wrist. Sentences must be increased.
Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.
Evil misogynists have waged a “hate mail” campaign against us. We were sent some AV which we thought was child porn involving “girl-children”, but Japanese police experts on pubic hair told us it wasn’t, so they must all be misogynists.
Rapelay was withdrawn from sale, the EOCS banned all fetishes, and some companies have banned foreigners from their websites. This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.
The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.
It is no wonder this group has attracted “unprecedented” criticism for its unremitting attacks on freedom of speech.
You can convey your thoughts on their wanton attacks on visual culture on their website.
Perhaps being bombarded with criticism in the same way they bombard politicians in other countries with unsolicited mail is a new experience for them, hence their displeasure.
Seems like they’re the one who’s butthurt and have serious problem in taking everything as serious sexual abuses..
Or rather, they’re just jealous that they don’t get as much sex as those characters in most hentai.
+1
+2 ^_^
Also… FUKK YOU, EN!! *points out a middle fingah*
+3 xD
lol,u r god damn right.
+4. Commended.
Send them hate mail! We can’t let this drift even further around the world!
Also, find a Japanese politician, and tell him to watch out for the second wave!
Just Pressed send!
If I can take the time to email them, so can all of you!!!!!!
I sent my own email to these whores.
You idiots sending them hate mail is exactly why they’re now convinced that crushing hentai will strike a great blow against rape and sexual violence.
Be a man, not a whiny little dick.
>Be a man?
Which according to you would be sitting by the sidelines and doing nothing and just accepting everything without a fight?
I’d rather be a whiny little dick then by your logic.
Did I say that? Dude, I only said not to send them butthurt hate mail.
Talk to them calmly and reasonably. Don’t rise to their stupidity. Keep your brothers in line. Demonstrate that they’re wrong about you.
“lawl you bitches just wanna get raepd” is not a useful way to fight.
I think it’s time to call /b/ack up…
Someone should organize a raid or something.
talking to them calm and reasonably won’t work. it’s obvious that they’re too hard-headed and close-minded to be opened up to exterior views. they are convinced that their views are correct and absolute. either you ridicule them so much that no one takes them seriously and their influence dies or take them out physically.
(another alternative: create a group that calls for the abolishment of women’s rights groups as they are harmful to the freedom of speech and endanger national economies all for the sake of censoring japanese abstinence programs.)
/b/
“or take them out physically.”
… So, basically, they’re completely right and hentai fans ARE rapists and murderers who should be thrown in prison.
Well, I’m glad to see you agree with EN.
“Someone should organize a raid or something.”
Right. Because doing exactly what’s already been done (sending them hate mail and rape videos) is clearly working out really well so far.
I CALL UPON THE POWER OF 4CHAN!!!
…4ch has lost its power over the years… its been taken over by 10 yo kids and the like…
but yes, +5 to that brutha, most likely they are just jealous of the amount of sex and how much love that anime characters receive. they musta been lonely emo girls growing up, and now they want to take it out on other people that have nothing to do with their own problems.
and if you listen to their argument, they sound like butthurt kids that got owned when they tried to troll others, noway in hell will the UN do anything about it, hell, the UN doent even have that much power anyways.
ah… but then, the average human isnt very bright…
Thats a great idea, twilightnoir1! We should seriously organise an opposition gruop that voices MENS’ rights and freedom of speech and expression. I’m in, anyone else?
Yeah, 4chan can help the situations as much as the feminists will get hentai banned. Stop being a faggot.
This will probably never happen. Coincidentally, I was also going to make a demand to the UN suggesting the women no longer get the right to vote or have a job that does not require sex appeal. Possibly stop teaching females to read too, as it seems most cannot handle the burden.
Or how about REAL equality? Because feminist “equality” is not even close to real gender equality, which the average idiot doesn’t realize.
How about someone other than me organizes a group who understands that gender equality does not mean to discriminate against males instead of females, and that a female dominated society is just as unequal as a male dominated society.
The fact that you think not raping and murdering women means that you’re trapped in a female-dominated society…
too ryt mate too ryt!
Let’s get this straight, they want us the guys to start signing terms with the woman we have sex with and the ironing of it looking to the woman when we ask them too.. lol
Wait, if we do does signing those consents to have sex with them, what will stop them (woman) saying they force us to sign them. Think of the court cases. xD
+ 9000
+ 9001
ISO 9001 Certified
Who’s the idiot who sent them JAV?
More like who’s the genius.
It’s really not that difficult to make sure the girl you’re having sex with is consenting.
Try this simple checklist:
1. Is she 12? If so, STOP.
2. Is she unconscious? If so, STOP.
3. Are you having to hold her down to keep her from running out the door? If so, STOP.
4. Is she drunk off her ass and encrusted with the semen of a previous bukkake party? If so, stop, because that shit’s gross, you’ll get diseases.
5. Is she a psychotic bitch who is asking you a bunch of questions about how much money you have and whether or not you know a good lawyer so that she can sue you in the morning? If so, STOP for your own protection.
Problem solved.
Too bad #5 isn’t always so obvious Anonymous. You’d be surprised how often you’ll run into the Psychotic Bitch.
Or how normal she seems when you first meet her…
LOL, giv u 10/10 in this comment.
Yeah. How exactly does fiction harm someone, anyway?
Then again, people nowadays demand retribution for the slightest verbal insult, so I guess it’s to be expected…
im fucking sueing you bitch, you looked at my ass didnt you?
lawl.
What *they* think (not me) is that fiction harms people by making people think it’s normal to behave that way. Same as the typical hand-wringing over violence in video games.
It’s complete nonsense. Hentai didn’t make the violent fucktards in this thread into violent fucktards, it only made it easier to identify them.
what im wondering is…why the hell do you care…your (Equality Now) not even stationed in japan, let alone have enough legal authority and evidence to condemn the issue.
They only slightly cared at first. If you look at their website, they send letters to governments all over the world for different things – forced marriage, female circumcision, etc. This was just another standard letter campaign.
But when idiots like Sankaku got involved and started mailing them death threats and rape videos, they figured they were really on to something.
Just look at the number of comments here threatening rape and violence. WE have convinced them that hentai fans are evil.
haha, fair enough. Lets fight fire with fire
Do Equaility Now not realise that all they doing is making Feminists seem like whiney little shits who just cry till they get their own why like a spoiled child?
It’s totally freaking retarded how they are going on like this.
I think Japan should take the Gundam they built and set it to hunt down every single person who agrees with Equaility Now. -.-
Why can’t Equaility Now just keep their nose out of other peoples business? What gives them the right to go into Japan and start calling them the scum of the earth? It’s just not right.
JAPAN!! DON’T STAND FOR IT..! FIGHT BACK!!
And Equaility Now? Please kindly GO AWAY AND MIND YOU’RE OWN BUSINESS.
Do Sankaku morons realise that all they are doing is making hentai fans look like violent criminals?
If people had only responded politely to their original campaign instead of mailing them fucking death threats and rape videos, it would never have gone on like this!
See, we need to offer CEDAW a properly writen counterpoint. Explaining that an equally viable form of discrimination against women, is to deny them their right to choose to fantasize (in stories) about rape.
And that it is anti-humanitarian to block their voices from being heard when they wish to write/draw/etc about such things.
“Women engage in sexual fantasies about rape or coercion with apparent frequency. In one study of college-age women, over half had engaged in such fantasies. Some claim that force fantasies in women are a way of handling sexual guilt – of expressing sexual desire without responsibility – but others claim that rape fantasies are simply a variation within a normal range of approaches to female sexuality. Accounts of women exploring the fantasy of raping men are usually confined to feminist literature or fetish communities.”
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy
If you (reading this) are also sick of how we are being represented, and you are a good writer, PLEASE HELP OUR GROUP WRITE THIS LETTER.
Go here: http://forums.yestofreedom.org/
Register. Help us write this letter.
NOW. We are always understaffed, and most people who join, sit around doing nothing (nothing personal you guys, but go look at the To-Do List, visit #yestofreedom @ irc.rizon.net, and call for backup to help you work on something).
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[13:41] Anyway, if you want to write to CEDAW, you might need to approach the angle that treating women in a way different than men implicitly supports the idea that women are not equal to men, and that the rights and responsibilities of women should not be balanced with those of men.
[13:41] This is a council that deals with DISCRIMINATION against women.
[13:41] EN’s position discriminates against womens’ freedoms, too.
[13:41] The problem is that no one will call them on it.
[13:42] They position the argument as that of endangering women.
[13:42] The point must be argued on all of these fronts simultaneously.
I wrote one and sent it to them.
If more people write, they will give up the nonsense.
The U.N. won’t accept…well not according to their own rules
In the universal declaration of human rights…
1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
ARE YOU SAYING HENTAI AIN’T AN ARTISTIC PRODUCTION….
And what’s more…
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
SO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IMPARTING A LITTLE HENTAI AND RAPE UPON THE WORLD…
no they don’t
Women are stupid creatures who don’t know how to do anything other than cook us dinner. This just proves their stupidity; they need to realize that the word ‘equality’ was a word created by men for men, and was never meant to be used by, referred to, or given to women.
Well enjoy your sex with men northpole776. =)
Good luck with that
Uhh… yeah. You enjoy being a gay man in your world of Confederate fucktards.
Successful troll as successful.
Oh sweet, more unsupported claims. <3
I thought this was a bad or biased translation made to make EN look extra stupid… nope, it was literal quotation from their English letter.
Ouch.
Uh… no, it was completely made up. Did you read the letter? None of that is quoted at all!
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
so u have sex with a girl,
then piss her off,
she goes to police and tells em u raped her…
and then u’r fucked! Ò.ó’
great idea! if this becomes fact i’ll srsly asume becoming a girl myself and sue myself assrich while beeing a slutty whore!
“This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.
The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Lol, oh wow.
Fail politicians are phail.
Those North Korean hackers should stop sending DDOS attacks on US government sites and focus more on these losers.
but pornography is already banned in NK -_-
also, hackers =/= ddos attackers but w/e.
He never said Hackers = DDoS attackers, bigot.
NK ban pornography but the just have sex slavery instead???
I guess sexual slavery isn’t pornography right. :)
technical, its not the same lol. Because sexual slavery is the physical act of sexual intercourse and all that follows it while pornography is the depicted images, videos, stories etc. of the act of having sex.
One is to do, while one is to watch/read/view.
LMAO what a bunch a idiots…be must bow before them all and be leashed and whipped `>_>
wait, did you just say “ban pornography,” wont someone think of the MONEY! never happen…
war started because of the oil industry. What could happen by shutting down the whole hentai industry. . .
more that just WAR!!
I’d say a total annihilation of all feminist groups against the hentai industry no? xD
ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!
SIEG ZEON!!!!!
Then we put our heads between our legs and kiss our asses goodbye as World War III reduces Earth into the year 199X.
YES, MY LORD!
actually my thought is our “war” against them, if they were to succeed in their global domination plans (i’m sure male slavery is in their agenda as well) rape would only exponentially multiply to the point women’s rights would revert.
banning porn is a stupid thing that will only result in the world destroying itself faster.
also banning porn is a religious thing, and religions shouldn’t be allowed to dictate how the world should run.
I agree with you!!!
No Religion should be controlling anything!!
Religion is something to believe in.
Not to control anything other than the people who want to be controlled by it. thats my point of view.
But sadly theres allways someone who have “power” there make Religion control people.
Maybe its just me T.T
but if the feminist wants to see all hell
breake loose. and the world going under then keep going xD
Its me. “more that just WAR!!”
This is getting annoying. Time to mailbomb.
I so agree with you. Mailbomb fire 2.
That won’t solve the problem, respond to their letter in a friendly yet reasonable way and tell them your opinion but don’t ignore their’s. Even if they’ll ingore it, there’s a chance that it’ll be read and they might give it some thought. Spamming doesn’t solve any problem it just keeps provocating them, I guess they aren’t used to this kind of art yet want to decide something they seem to know nearly nothing about but being apparently being dangerous for women.
We have to tell them in a reasonable way that it is NOT and we do respect their opinion, still they have to respect our’s, too. That might sound ridiculous but I believe it’s the best way to achieve something and way better than being as vulgar as most of the visitors here seem to be.
Just my opinion, I appreciate comments and corrections and critique if it’s not just “fuck you, idiot feminist dick”.
Well, I sent an email to them already. have you yet?
I just sent it, let’s hope they’ll actually read it.
*Facepalm*
*Facedesk*
*faceplanet*
*faceuniverse*
*facereality*
OHGAWDWHATHAVEWE- *implodes*
*facemultiverse*
*faceanon*
C-c-c-c-COMBO BREAKER!!! xD Always wanted to do that xD
I think the combo was already over…what can top faceanon???
Anyone…
I highly doubt this will pass, but they need to quit it already. I really want to know just what they think kind of happy rape-free paradise this will bring, because it ain’t happening. Unfortunately, there is evil in the world, and real rape will happen whether we want it to or not. Once again, I repeat myself and tell them to fight the real problem, not some fictional stuff they think will cause a sexual apocalypse.
They really need something to occupy their time with if this is the best they can come up with. They sound bored almost. It’s sad they devote their energy to such crap; if they directed it elsewhere, it might actually do some good with how motivated they are.
I’ll be in the corner with the other sane women if you need me.
I agree. I think they just cant get to the root of the problem. If only they help women who are in real need and not some drawn-up females. Maybe the only way for them to face the REAL problem is a group of women to tell them that they are not solving the problem.
or a man to lead them
they have nothing else better to do =\…
yes if they directed the efforts elsewhere they might actually get something done, save some lives maybe? actual charity work perhaps? this is just a waste of time, a fake job perhaps just to get paid me thinks.
Me agree!
Still, they don’t get themselves a “reality check”.
If they ban Japanese eroge and the like, why not ban American porn industry if they act like that (Custer’s Revenge, ppl).
they are not stupid, that’s why they are picking on Japan since it showed weakness when self banned itself. Now, that they seen it work, they want to push all their “objections” and make staring a woman illegal!
First off, certainly this letter is atrocious posturing and could only cause readers to respond as they have throughout this post.
To be fair I had a quick look at their site and wiki article and can see they have 4 key projects, two of which I agree with, while the other two are a bit vauge.
I have no problem with them beliving that rape games lead to real life rape, I don’t know for certain that they never have.
What I don’t like is that they don’t know this either but are presenting it as a fact. Especially when their mission statement states they work using the mobilisation of public pressure.
I would like to see some supporting evidence to their request for the UN to impose legalisation on Japan beyond – we object to it therefore its wrong.
While they are investigating this they can surely refocus some of their resources on the the real life issues there is evidence for.
well in my opinion considering most of us are anime otakus which means (for most of us) that we’re only interested in ANIME GIRLS so……
we should stock up on hundreds of doujins and eroge games and refuse sex with any women once about 90% of women starts supporting Equality Now which should cause the population of the world to decrease considerably which should cause Equality Now to eat SH*T!!!
well its just my opinion so please don’t take it too seriously plus i haven’t though of a plan for the other 10% (or more) of women who are still SANE
u maight not serious but i’m serious about it.
(joking)
Will you marry me?
Only if you’re female, 2d and have big oppais
Too bad the “sane” women haven’t done shit to stop these kind of “feminists” anti-pornography crusades for the past two decades..
i dont think i can read atma’s comments quite completely. My eyes continually stray to Kallen…
“They really need something to occupy their time with if this is the best they can come up with.”
It’s hardly the only thing they’re doing, if you look at their site they have tons of different letter campaigns against all sorts of things. Since the only thing they can do is send letters, it would be a huge waste of time if they devoted themselves to writing letters about just one subject and then waited eagerly for a response.
Especially since ALL they can do is send letters, and most of the time, those letters have zero effect.
I love you Atma. <3
You’re 100% correct Atma! Too bad they’re too narrow minded! *nods*
WTH u ppl are crazy
“Japanese police experts on pubic hair”
finally someone comments on that … thank you
u see i knew this was gonna happen first rapelay then loli wich didn’t matter then eroge and now there going after all HENTAI i mean that is just stupid if that were the case then why dont they just up and say we want to ban all porn from everywhere ever this is just stupid
Porn won’t be enough for them they’ll probably try to ban sex altogether xD
Because that’s not how censorship proponents work; it’s not an effective strategy. You have to start with very specific, tiny minority stuff (preferably distasteful) that almost no one will stand up for. Once that gets banned, you move on to something bigger, and something bigger after that, so you can use your momentum from previous victories while fighting to ban something that you’d have no chance of banning if you’d come out and proposed your REAL goal in the first place.
This is why censorship is so insidious and why it has to be fought at every turn, even if it means standing up for something you personally don’t care for. You might not care for RapeLay, but next it’ll be loli; you might not like loli, but next it’s eroge; you might not be into that, but next…
The idea of the “slippery slope” really is true when you’re dealing with people who are only pushing Step 1 in their agenda.
Evil misogynists have waged a “hate mail” campaign against us. We were sent some AV which we thought was child porn, but Japanese police experts on pubic hair told us it wasn’t, so they must all be misogynists.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Japanese police experts on pubic hair? Seriously? AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Whores will fail!
Whores do quite well actually, but I’m sure Equality Now has plans for them as well…
Stupid feminazis.
marimite hentai? wha
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.” – epic fail, if you have the consent of the partner it’s not rape, if not everybody having sex is a rapist tards!!
well almost the whole pdf is wrong
Actually it’s one of the only point where they are right. But it’s a tough matter to judge upon so I guess nippon jurists took the easy way out. Yes sometimes you can be raped without resisting it physically.
They didn’t say anything about physical resistance, and there are no jurists as such in Japan.
Taken directly from the pdf: “institutionalised misconceptions about rape, including the myth that a woman has to put up resistance to prove she did not consent to sex”
I suppose depending on how you view the context, you can take “resistance” to mean including verbal objections too or just physical resistance.
So I just have to force her to sign a contract in which she allows me to have sex with her? Seriously how can I know if she don’t want to if she don’t say so or acts the way? “Your words say no, but your body says yes, yes, yes oh big daddy yes.” Which is the more honest part, I wonder.
In real life no means no, unless previously agreed. It’s better to be safe than sorry. The whole idea of ‘your body says yes’ is pretty much a porn only deal.
Personally I wouldn’t have sex with someone unless they seem into it and never someone who said ‘no’ or ’stop’, it’s a huge turn off.
It sounds like good ol’ USA. Where a girl can consent to sex, and go to a police station 1 hour after and say your raped her if you happened to get into a fight after hand.
No need to try and imagine who the police will believe.
“Where a girl can consent to sex, and go to a police station 1 hour after and say your raped her if you happened to get into a fight after hand.”
Yeah, because that happens so often. A girl’s life is basically ruined by going through a rape trial. The only girls who “cry rape” are those who were completely fucked up to begin with and have nothing to lose. Usually prostitutes whose johns refused to pay, or utter psychopaths.
How can you, as a man, avoid being brought up on false rape charges?
DON’T STICK YOUR DICK IN CRAZY.
date rape drugs is what they are referring to.
That’s part of it. There’s also the cases where a girl was too scared to fight back. If a guy makes physical threats towards a girl, it’s often a better idea not to fight. If you fight, you get killed. If you don’t fight, you only get raped.
Even women’s self-defense courses teach that. If you don’t think you can win the fight, don’t try to fight, you’ll get hurt more.
If someone’s got a knife to your throat you’re probably not going to resist all that much. That’s why “proof of resistance” upsets anti-rape people.
Opposite of what is listed on how to avoid rape sites:
If you are attacked, yell, scream, hit and kick, and otherwise do anything you can to get away. Doing so may startle the attacker and may cause him to loosen his grip so you can run away.
Fight back if the attacker doesn’t let go. In 2003, the Justice Department reported that weapons were present in rapes and sexual assaults only 11 percent of the time. If the attacker does have a weapon, you will have to decide what is the best approach to save your life. Pleading with the attacker may not be the best choice, however.
“Research shows that pleading and reasoning lead to an even higher probability of rape,” says Ullman. Many rapists thrive on feeling powerful, and a victim’s pleading can feed this need.
There are specific laws against drugging people so you are incorrect.
I pointed this out long ago in my letter to them. And they still get their facts wrong. (Like their wonderful definition of lolicons… Fucktards…) Seems like sending a reasonable and sensible letter failed. Fuck them feminists.
Again, EN shows they have trouble separating fiction from reality. Which is interesting considering how many girls these days in the US also think the actor for Edward in Twilight is a real vampire.
Fail.
Your resistance only makes my penis harder, but I am not amused.
“Daughter, I am disappoint!”
getting your boobs done also increases your chances of getting raped, why not ban that too?
and you might as well send a letter of Thailand, they’re ‘making’ women who may get raped in the future
theyre all just ignorant housewives who know absolutely nothing about real politics, its like an irl ddos attack. if they get enough stamps they can take down anything realy.
and its pathetic how politics fold under most of their ignorant assults. really though theyre probably married to some of them and wont hear the end of it if it doesnt pass.
well most of them are shotacon and the rest would never get laid in their first half of their life, so i guess anything that somehow relates to sex would be sexual abuse to them
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
No, I’m with the Judges on this one. Having sex willingly then deciding afterwards you didn’t want it isn’t rape, that’s trying to send a guy to jail for the hell of it.
Can’t blame them for having grandiose Utopian ideologies, but damn they’re so naive.
I think you meant Dystopian there, after all there’s nothing Utopian about EN what so ever.
I apologize on Psyvariar’s behalf, please forgive his stupidity.
INDEED.
In case you really don’t get it, the point is not “have sex willingly then change your mind”. That’s a myth put out by misogynists.
They’re complaining about Japanese courts asking for proof that a woman fought tooth-and-nail against being raped in order to call it rape. And you know, if a guy has a knife to your throat? You’d have to be an idiot to put up that much of a fight.
People are often raped when they are unable to fight back, out of fear or drugs or whatever. If you think it’s rape or death most people will choose rape.
EN are still stupid, but Sankaku are liars. Read the actual letter, not the completely made-up summary.
“EN are still stupid, but Sankaku are liars. Read the actual letter, not the completely made-up summary.”
Dude, the link to the PDF is right there. Sanakaku wasn’t lying about anything.
Japanese courts can and will successfully prosecute based entirely on testimony from the victim – there are many examples in the articles here.
They are complaining about judges considering whether women in these cases, where no evidence other than hearsay from both parties is involved, actually “resisted” at all, and they will certainly take into account threats and coercion. Japanese judges are not unreasonable monsters.
HURP DURP IM A EQUALITY NOW FAG AND I AGREE WITH YOU, EVEN THOUGH THE PDF IS RIGHT THERE HURR DURR :B
Yeah. I read the PDF. And I suggested that other people should read the PDF instead of the made-up summary. So, when I actually said “read the PDF”, why are you somehow acting like it disproves my statement if you… do exactly what I suggested that you do?
You can call that summary many things, but it sure as hell is not made up.
They can only say that to japan if they can exterminate the pornography scattered throughout the globe.
“4. What kind of training is being provided to Japanese law enforcement… to dispel… the myth that a woman has to put up resistance to prove she did not consent to sex?”
Oh my word. This literally means any girl can accuse a guy of raping her after having sex, regardless of whether it was consensual.
this is the “equality” they seek….
And this is already something that is happening in the USA more than you’d think.
I don’t know if the police are still as often fooled by it, but due to the common recurrences, I think they become more wary of it.
We’ve gone over this a million times. There is nothing “equal” about EN’s goals. Or any sexist goals on either side of the fence.
Now, we all also know that equity (good for both genders) is not equality (not good, since what makes males and females attractive is that they’re vastly different from each other), but EN isn’t even pursuing either of those. Their definition of “equality” is where the system bends towards discrimination against all men.
Do you honestly think that if you hold a gun to a woman’s head and tell her to have sex with you or die, it’s consensual because she didn’t put up resistance?
THAT’S what they’re talking about.
NO ONE is arguing that you should be able to consent to sex and then change your mind afterwards just to be a bitch.
Can you say “Crystal Gail Mangum?”
-.-
ohwell, guess ill mail then and ask if they have any evidence of their claims,,, even i can mail the un and ask for anything -.-’
“This is not enough.”
-How is it not enough?
“The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.”
-So basically, they are saying that Japan must obey them?
*sigh* Just die already, damn.
The barrel is now full enough!!!
If the UN need problems, than they get problems !
Why is not anybody make an hentai or eroge where UN feminist get raped just for revenge ?!?
how stupid.y they r too much into banning hentais and lolis?unlogical.logically they ask to ban porn as its much more dangerous than hentai.is they stupid?
Yeah, they are
Fucking ugly virginazis.
I am not amused.
wtf this is unbelievable what do they hope to achieve by banning hentai, apart from moving one step closer to world domination. First hentai then next they will be banning sex unless there is a signed agreement from both parties.
label me naive, but i am genuinely scared of a future without hentai and doujin =/ someone murder those bitches now plz =/
is anything acceptable with these damn feminist?
5 lines of hate and disgust mailed.
info@equalitynow.org
equalitynownairobi@equalitynow.org
ukinfo@equalitynow.org
Aw come on, how stupid can this become? I had enough of this Orwellian crap, honestly. Do something useful instead.
ps, yea, I was addressing Equality Now and co.
I don’t think they would stop on this.
If it gonna pass, someone just should kill them.
Ahh..somebody juz kill those bitches plz!!
I got’z idea xD Let’s hire an assassin who will kill them all no? xD
Preferably Canaan. Or Kirika, Mireille, Madlax….
While fictional, any of all the aforementioned girls have more woman in their index finger than all of EN’s members and cronies combined.
I don’t think anything we say can stop them. They’re so deluded in this self-indulgent white knight crusade that everything we say (no matter how much damn sense it makes) will not affect them one bit, because in their mind they’re right, and we’re wrong. They’re being like little children and closing their eyes and ears to the facts until they get their way. The only way to stop them is to do like what we did with Jack Thompson, and that’s to take away their power. They’re not helping women, they’re making them look like fucking fools who don’t deserve a say so because they’ll do stupid, ignorant shit like this.
It’s not much of a deluded crusade when there are hordes of commenters on this thread advocating rape and murder in the real world.
That makes it look like EN is completely right. Hentai fans *are* criminals and should be in jail.
New to the Internet much?
ban pornography? I think the yakuza will be knocking on their door soon..
SHHHHHH. Not here!
I find this rather entertaining to watch. We get to see how far they are willing to go into their crusade to “save” Japan from all the evil deeds against women in which includes women themselves participate in Hentai. Japan is one of the countries with the lowest rate of rape even with all the amount of pornography freely available and yet Equality wants to focus there instead of looking at countries like the United States that has a high amount of rapes ranging from women to children.
Here’s an idea for Equality: Look into countries in the middle east where women are still being treated like pieces of shit.
Damn, I wish there would be an Edit button available.
One last thought, the UN has better stuff to do than fulfill demands from a bunch of women who don’t have their priorities straight.
Not to mention South Africa.
I’d say this group is it’s own worst enemy.
Seriously, if their demans weren’t written all that ridiculous they’d stand a chance…
This is actually the second whiny letter they’ve sent to CEDAW. The first one is here:
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/docs/ngos/Equality_Now_May2009_Japan_CEDAW44.pdf
The entire info on this session is here:
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/cedaws44.htm
I’m not certain how seriously anyone takes CEDAW – some of their recommendations are pretty absurd and seem to be routinely ignored. Plus, it’s the _UN_: “Stop! Or I’ll say stop again!”
lulz
banning hentai? hahaha good luck with that
Seriously , this is getting fucked up . They should focus on Banning Real Porn instead of the 2d Porn .
Only Retarded people rape woman by playing Eroge Games . I mean its just fiction Porn , they should get rid of real Pornography first
besides the people who plays eroge are 2d complex which is they are not interested in real women so wouldn’t it be better if the REAL porn is banned?
A~men!
*God and Lucifer simultaneously comes to Earth*
God & Lucifer: FU*K YEA!!
I agree that punishments for rape should be very severe but saying japan encourages rape is prejudece on a level that is staggering. They may not punish it as hard as other countries, and that is a very valid fact for the right arguement, but they hardly condone it. These women need to get layed and chill the fuck out. You aren’t going to destroy a huge industry just because a few thousand women in the US don’t like it and are ignorant about it. You have more luck getting the world to ban alcohol and cigerettes.
China have proven, severe punishments means severe crime.
If the punishments are so severe ,to some point those who truly wish to rape will just rape AND kill instead of just rape. They will just think “The punishment are close anyway.”
Bad, BAD idea.
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.”
Flawless logic.
unsubstantiated arguments ftl
Loli = Ban
Shota = Free
LoL
Good luck getting japan to ban their loli. Think of it as guns in america… you can take it from their cold, dead hands.
yea funny that, “oh shi ban the loli, but shota is fine”
equality now my ass, feminist should fucking die in a fire
wouldn’t they better serve their cause by first getting loli strippers off the streets?
fail.
Perhaps at one point they will stop this already proven to be futile struggle against imaginary Windmills?
JUST DIE ALREADY !!!!!
banning hentai = number of rape in japan increase. ppl won’t have hentai to use as material, instead they will rape women
Fuck.. those… feminist…
Just die already…
Wow.. it’s been a week and they’re already back to haunt us.
Banning pornography won´t stop the raping. It´s just a symbolic act and nothing more. Nobody can stop an individual to do things like rape. Also it´s almost a fact that the person who rape a woman is mostly someone who is known by the victim. So is Equality going to ban the socalled friend or acquaintance?
Furthermore, there are female artists who draw erotic/hentai mangas, so it´s not only by man; that´s true equality! Also there are many people (including girls and women) who can enjoy hentai, eroge games without doing anything that are forbidden by law.
It looks like those fucking feminazi cunts asks for a war against us, eh. Good, then. *sounds fist*
Well these feminist are persistant. Man, they’re bringing up help from the UN. And they’re must be busy with other things before they did this.
And don’t these comments should an edit link so I can change the errors on my comments?
I don’t know international law, but it’s time the Japanese got legal medieval on this organization. They are racists, pure and simple. With 50 other perfectly valid directions around the world in which to target the abuse of women, they choose Japan, the safest country in the world for women. In the U.S., somebody would take them down eventually, because such hate speech against a particular race or nationality would finally just piss off someone with enough money and influence.
I wrote to them, but I think it’s time everyone here start pounding the bits to the U.N. directly (be calm, please, and concise). Seriously. Every time we’ve lost freedoms it was because the sane majority figured it couldn’t happen and so didn’t say anything to the right people. If the U.N. considers them credible at all, that needs to be changed right now.
And don’t forget to send a copy to Equality Now. They will flip, and their writings to the U.N. will get just more obviously insane.
Very true. Japan is 1 of the safest countries in the world, period. Of course that doesn’t worry these women who i’d be willing to bet have never even left their state. To them the whole world should be made in the image of the US
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Whoa!! are they roman emperor or something!?
This will pissed many japanese, treating them like a child or third degree counrty!
lol wow, this makes me angry!
Whatever comes from Japan is theirs. Their culture and everything. No one, not even the US has the right to force their ways upon another country. This comment is coming straight from an African American.
Artefact are you sure that letter is legit and not a scam? Because the tone and idiocy of some of the statements is really way too much, even for a bunch of rabid feminazis. I mean it’s a letter to the UN and yet it sounds like it’s wriiten by an angry 13 year old.
The mentality of “victimized” feminists are like a 13-year old.
The letter itself (as opposed to Artefact’s amusingly worded summary) isn’t a scam – it’s linked on CEDAW’s website in a previous post above.
Ah sorry I failed to notice the link and “summary” part. That’s me being stupid I guess. :P
rofl….they are trying to take over the UN durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr……once the UN say yes to this EN will ask for permission for world war 3….
they are actually trying to start a world war… 3d feminazis vs 2d hentai… oh god i wish for world peace…
These are not American feminists. They are UK feminists. And feminism has roots in Marxism so America isn’t the only factor in it’s origin.
“Yours sincerely, Jacqueline Hunt”
Someone go hunt this Jacqueline.
Where’s Jack the ripper when we need him!
Are you a idiot? First you say “it’s not American feminists” and then you say “it’s America isn’t the only factor”.. GTFO
By the way, the feminism root or origin is mostly from America.
Marxism originated in Germany. And feminist ideology was originally from former Marxists.
http://www.feministissues.com/marxist.html
But the radical ones against any kind of nudity are mainly from america. Originally feminsts did fight fore more rights and equality for females like running around topless like males do.
Banning hentai/pornography is like banning humanity itself. There will always be humans/people who will want this stuff. Those who don’t want porn and/or call it evil aren’t human to begin with
The time has come for us to awaken the giant (2ch)
Damn it! Its the end of the world if they ban this. I’ll commit suicide. >.>
If this happens what’s stopping them form regular anime? I hope the UN looks into this and stops the Feminist from continuing this attack on 2D.
It’s better to commit a suicide of some feminazi bitch
don’t do it.It will only increase their glory against dirty men
Actually there are currently also bans on mangas that have nothing to do with hentai starting…because of “nudity”.
And so the women’s rights movement merges with the far-right fundie anti-sexuality movement. Way to go there.
Freedom of speech + women given rights = this.
>> The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.
>> The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.
>> they must all be misogynists
… just who the fuck do they think they are? (deliberate parody of TTGL)
It is already a serious insult to make sweeping accusations against the Japanese as a nation, and a people. Thinking that they’re the be-all and end-all authority on morals and human rights is just silly. And no, neither the Japanese government nor the UN “must” listen to them.
>> Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.
Implies explicit confirmation is required, which means any women “should” be able to send a guy to jail if there wasn’t any such confirmation, regardless of circumstance. I thought they fought for EQUALITY? I mean, what the fuck do they want? Sex must be accompanied by the signing of a legally binding contract first?
>> Evil misogynists have waged a “hate mail” campaign against us.
Hmm… What other organizations label naysayers automatically as evil? Oh right. Extremist religious sects. Hope they have fun with their bullshit ignorance.
>> We were sent some AV which we thought was child porn involving “girl-children”, but Japanese police experts on pubic hair told us it wasn’t, so they must all be misogynists.
No, when experts tell you you’re wrong, it doesn’t mean they’re “evil misogynists”. THEY’RE EXPERTS; IT MEANS EXACTLY THAT YOU’RE FUCKING WRONG.
Why does this butthurt unclefuckers making our love, passion and fap away from us.
Maybe, they were raped when they are kids by their parents.
The feminazi group is out of their minds. Not only they devolve to the point where they can’t tell 2d from reality. They probably can’t tell their own reflection is not another person. Now they want to be crusaders like christian crusaders that went and force their moral shit on other cultures. Like killing, raping, enslaving, and stealing from them.
If this works why not make a moralist group that demands the army of the world to ban everything violent by summiting to every thing the group demands. This will kill world economy. Moralist power trip terrorism. Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury.
Anges: Dear UN we should ban the world of voilent retail product that range from books to guns. The world should summit to our every demands.
UN: How will you enforce that?
Anges: We will burn them, burn everything down.
Hentai hentai but not a drop to drink
WE WANT OUR IDEA OF EQUALITY NOW AND NOT LATER, OBEY, DO IT UN!
really?
2ch do your stuff.
Its fake it was done by some feminist bitch/troll from
/r9k/ on 4chan
Western guyz and girlz, why we dont just nucked America in 1962? T_T
You know they just crossed the line between petulant to downright stupid and racist.
By demanding ban of ALL hentai and pornography in general is tantamount to declaring war on the internet. That NEVER goes well.
Amazing…
Would anyone take them seriously if Agnes Chan adressed the UN over banning hentai right after a discussion of the warlord Charles Taylor and Karadzics sundry warcrimes…
Sudanese human rights worker: I work in Sudan and saw with my own two eyes government soldiers massacring men and raping children in a modern day ethnic genocide. We must ac….
/Super Agnes charges the podium: STOP ANIME IT ENCOURAGES RAPE!
Charles Taylor: HERE HERE!!!!!
I saw a disturbing documentary on Victorian society.
All pornography was illegal, the society was in full social conservative bloom where male doctors couldn’t look at the naked form of a woman other than their wife. They would have to perform operations on women with their clothing on…
All regular pornography was illegal, so the rich would go down into the slums and pay large sums of money to spend the night with teens and preteens.
If Equalitynow wants to go back to Victorian Standards of womanhood, then we are in for dark times.
Equality Now doesn’t seem to have people with common sense.
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.”
That’s crap, that’s like saying First Person Shooter games encourages people to kill.
“Rapelay was withdrawn from sale, the EOCS banned all fetishes, and some companies have banned foreigners from their websites. This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.”
The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.
I don’t know what rapelay is, but banning all fetishes is quite retarted, not only that people outside Japan are having even less access to Japanese websites; and this ‘Japan must ban everything we object to’ bullshit, WTF! The UN and Japan must suddenly answer to Equality Now?
If they wanted actual equality, they wouldn’t put up this front that women are the only victims.
What Equality Now won’t put the focus on real rape crimes both Men and Women experience(it’s not just one gender whose victimized), they waste their time with whining and getting companies to ban games. Underage material I can understand but trying to get companies to ban all fetishes is too far.
”that’s like saying First Person Shooter games encourages people to kill.”
There was an article in the papers here in The Netherlands that said the opposite could actually be true. Al those fags who claimed that fps and likes were bad had really nothing to say at the moment. The same goes for this case.
Putain mais quand est-ce qu’elle vont fermer leur putain de gueule ces dégénérées de l’humanité?
Hallucinant.
I demand UN “EqualityNow”-BAN for excessive stupidity and for tremendously parasiting the world.
When the strike-back? It’s getting LOL~
Rape heaven <3
“promotion of violence against women through hentai”
Can someone stick a gun to their heads and force them to try to prove this statement? Time and again they say this, yet they have absolutely NOTHING to back it up. If you are going to take away human rights, you must give a VALID reason, not an emotional reason.
“stereotypes promoted through hentai”
I don’t know about other people, but I just don’t take these stereotypes seriously and don’t let them affect my view on women. They are deliberately exaggerated to be more titillating and it’s OBVIOUS.
Good luck to EN in trying to get that shit NOT only banned, but also enforced! XD
Even so, those harpies are due some anti-aircraft ordinance.
I’d rather see these people die before murderers and rapists. Just how flat out stupid can these organizations get? They’re like cults, except way larger, and stupid people in larger numbers really scare me.
Please also direct H8 and rage here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMibXJZs744
It’s an identical video they posted on their main site, only this one has over 8000 hits and more than 4 stars in rating. Somehow that unnerves me -_-
Maybe the video link on their main site was a dummy as to avert attention from this one -_-
This. Please direct some of your negative ratings and comments here to educate people of the real face of EN. And PLEASE don’t say any misogynist statements. I’m sick of stuff like “go to the kitchen”. You don’t fix one sexist bad statement with another.
They’re sounding more stupid by the minute. They’re starting to crack!
FIGHT THE POWAH!!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
I’m raging so hard right now!!!
oh lawd the return of the white knights.
True white knights protect pilgrims and defend the Holy Land from infidels. Their ideal isn’t even a white knight ideal.
They just want to get attention, and you all help them…
so a woman can nail every ex she ever slept with since resistance isnt necessary, i think they need to read that aloud to themselves.
Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.[citation needed]
“Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal” – who the fawk do you think you are, lol?!
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm anyone got a design for a giant railgun so i can bombard these dumb biatches from across the atlantic?
\then again, that would be a bad idea as it would make the leaders of whatever country these people hide in it a bit nervous as 2 ton shells rain out of the sky and carve huge craters
This is my second letter to Equality Now. If they don’t answer it I will also make my point through a letter to the CEDAW.
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Hello!
I have recently read the letter to the UN made by Jacqueline Hunt about the hentai industry in Japan. This is also my second letter to you that deals with this question. I am very confused about the nature of Equality Now’s claims. Have you conducted any form of scientific or empirical research that has concluded that “hentai” or any other form of fiction like books and television has any effect on turning human beings in to rapists? You have to understand (whether you like it or not) that imposing a restriction on artistic freedom however appalling or morally wrong it might be is a violation of article 19 of the human rights law. As long as extreme pornography, whether depicted through drawings like hentai or acted out in live movies don’t hurt actual people then it is still fiction, something that is not real!
To try and censor artistic freedom instead of concentrating on real life issues is sad when I see that you as an organization have much to offer in terms of trying to make equality better for women all over the globe. But you have to realize that hentai in Japan is something drawn and voiced, an interactive story without any ties to people in real life actually getting hurt.
The message behind these games are NOT to tell men to go out and rape women, the games are like any other games, a form of fantasy, to get away from real world issues and enjoy a fantasy in the private of your own home. To say that hentai create rapists are unfounded just as to claim that violence in books, games and movies causes normal mentally stable people to turn in to violent offenders. There has never been a study that have shown that a common human being has been turned into a murderer, rapist, pedophile or any other violent offender from reading a book, watching a movie or playing a game.
Since you are not inclining to answer any of my mails and don’t seem to have a will or mean to argue this question I have taken it to myself to write a letter to the CEDAW and in detail point out all law binding articles that deals with this subject and counter argue Jacqueline Hunts letter arguments. And if you have read my other mail and this, you will probably realize that it won’t be with much difficulty.
Best whishes!
I for one agree with this an… wait, you’re not anon!?
Nope I’m not anon, I’m Odane =)
Very good letter we have here. Hopefully this swarm of letters will knock them back to their senses. If they didn’t have any in the first place, I just hope CEDAW will.
Someone with common sense? In my internets?
Sigh. This is seriously getting retarded. From Equality Now’s agenda to their letters. I mean, do they want to go dominatrix over men? I wouldn’t mind a few women’s protection laws being implemented but it’s just stupid for one small group to go on telling a whole NATION to stop their hentai. Where’s their proof of hentai=rape? If I see even one statistic, then I’m convinced. Otherwise, they’re just making the Internet very angry.
What I’m waiting for now is for Japanese otaku (and probably some of us too) to go berserk and start DDoS attacks on Equality Now. It’s practically impossible to ban anything these days.
I don’t condemn that idea. In fact I condone it. If I knew how, I’d do it myself.
the stupidity makes my brain hurt
Someone needs to kidnap them all and ship them onto some stranded island… d(^_^)b
If they’d stay in the kitchen, they wouldn’t have to worry about rape.
America is a nation which accepts WEAPONS. This encourages MURDER & RAPE so AMERICA must be banned.
Ok kill those feminist would be enough i dont even know where they come from but sounds like they are from the USA
They are, but they probably are completely ignored in the US, hence why they must go outside and piss other people off with their stupidity.
You know what, I used to want to become a feminist. But then I decided I wouldn’t to avoid the possibility of being lumped together with these idiots.
yeah.. not gonna happen lol lets go hackers start DDoS attacks on Equality!
by banning hentai and making it possible to convict men of rape since resistance is not necessary they are slowly pushing men into a corner
I agree with the second part about Japan’s rape issue and also the laws guiding it. Seriously speaking , if they don’t something about it , sooner or later , the whole world will recognize Japan’s nothing but a rape country. Here comes the clash of the culture versus morality~!
I think its time to raid Eq.N. site, bring it down to let them now that the Internet is Serious Business.
Awesome, can’t wait till this finally happens. Hopefully then Japan might start producing stuff that are actually useful. That or they all turn fully gay and move to shota, they’re heading into that direction anyway.
The funny thing is , i’m amaze how many of how will die in order to protect 2D nekid gurls.. i’m not against you people but , sheesh , it just sounds not so right , it’s like, we’re too desperate to see a nekid body even if it’s just 2D.. The only problem i see is that Japan’s culture regarding sex is so damn disturbing it affects hentai. If they only could have taken good control of it , Hentai shouldn’t be touch at the first place in this issue.
We do not care that it doesn’t “sound right”.
It’s called a fetish. Many of us find 2D more attractive than 3D, it has nothing to do with being desperate.
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Wow they are out of their minds.
women have TOO much power
I say this: Do not criticize a country’s culture morally if it’s not your own.
Seems They understand what they are trying to do or not?
Who cares about feminism? Let’s go a step further… We should ban anything that promotes beauty, because it’s a discrimination against ugly people. This culture that promotes and encourages beauty in both men and women ensures that ugly people will never get laid!
Theys best be trollin.
I read others articles, Equality Now is really terrifying. Fascism, merely.
It should be forbidden to do THAT, harassing the world with idiotic and childish reasoning, and INSISTING until the unbelievable. Provocation?
What a world.
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.”
ok, give me proofs that at least 20% of the world’s rape incident are caused by hentai. less than that means that hentai has insignificant effect on rapes case.
“Japan is nation where courts let rapists go free with a slap on the wrist. Sentences must be increased.”
increase to what scale? every country has its own standard for sentences. which countries’ sentences is the most appropriate? to be fair, the weight of the sentences should also be given based on how heavy the rape crime is. small rapist -> smaller sentence.
“Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
so basically it means after having sex, any woman can claim that she has been raped! ok, that is fine, provided the men can do the same!!!
“Evil misogynists have waged a “hate mail” campaign against us. We were sent some AV which we thought was child porn involving “girl-children”, but Japanese police experts on pubic hair told us it wasn’t, so they must all be misogynists.”
say what? just because they don’t agree with the feminist, they are labeled women-haters? oh this is too much… so a 50yrs old woman is a girl-children IF the EN say so, but ANYONE disagree are women-haters!! excuse me, i believe the japanese knows better of their own ppl than us gaijin. japanese are generally very short. a short girl not equal child.
“Rapelay was withdrawn from sale, the EOCS banned all fetishes, and some companies have banned foreigners from their websites. This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.”
this is not enough? so they want the japanese to wag their tail and kiss their royal feet? this isn’t a game. this is REAL LIFE! you don’t go around commanding people and expect them to listen to you, if they do, then that is NOT equality.
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
yes kamisama, we, ELEVENS, will do anything as you command! all hail EN!
How about we gather money and have this feminist assassinated?
I don’t think that only one bitch will be enough xD as I said earlier we need to kill every single bitch that is against the hentai industry xD
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape”—-Lol?
Isn’t rape when the a person doesn’t want it? If some guy came up to me and wanted to throw it in me against my will, im pretty sure I would fight back…
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape”
Stopped reading right there. If hentai promotes rape, then all erotic imagery promotes rape, period. Kind of a logic problem, there.
These feminist groups are trying too hard.
“Japan is nation where courts let rapists go free with a slap on the wrist. Sentences must be increased.”
It’s not just Japan you nazi-feminists.
Even worse here in South Africa
So lets ban all other forms of adult material, such as porn!!!
Seriously guys, someone with enough Japanese knowledge take this to 2ch.
I think these retards from Equality now should move to Saudi Arabia for a few years then rethink their crusade against Hentai a little bit.
Seriously, how stupid can these EN people get, banning hentai, hahahahaha, so funny
“Evil misogynists?” Even the leveled-headed ones who had well-written letters? EVEN THE FEMALE GAMERS/OTAKU WHO HATE THEIR GUTS? HAHA, oh wow, EN…
I like how they appeal to the UN. They have all the power.
Well it seems they want legal contracts for any sexual acts, I guess when you brag to your friends you’ll have the papers to prove it?
Just a bunch of whiny bitches that need their mouths filled…
Lol, common theme’s in hentai are rape and lolicon. Yea….. Where are they getting their information from? Just go down akiba and you’ll find more of the pure, innocent girl types than the brutal rapes they claim japan sells.
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.”
Hentai are perverts, not pornography like the definition adopted by the English speaking part of the internet.
“Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
They should have to resist, if they are able, physically or verbally to be able to call it rape.
“Evil misogynists have waged a “hate mail” campaign against us. We were sent some AV which we thought was child porn involving “girl-children”, but Japanese police experts on pubic hair told us it wasn’t, so they must all be misogynists.”
You deserve all the hate mail and “bombs” that you are sent.
“Rapelay was withdrawn from sale, the EOCS banned all fetishes, and some companies have banned foreigners from their websites. This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.”
We must ban you from reproduction of any kind.
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Why? You are not wanting true equality.
“Japan is nation where courts let rapists go free with a slap on the wrist. Sentences must be increased.”
That’s the only thing I can agree on, everything else is complete bullshit.
Pubic expert police officer…. that’s like…best job ever!
I will say this only once because this is getting tad repetitive.
They are WRONG, no sane human being would agree with 99% of the crap they spill (the other 1% is just a mathematical percentage, it’s like when you mark the same answer on a 100 question test, you are bound to get some stuff right eventually), HELL, even rape organizations should feel ashamed that share the same sex genre as those lunatics! They are no better then Hitler or Stallin!
That said, why you guys keep repeating yourselves over and over and over again?! Hate mail, death treats and at this point in time, even original rational responses are not only getting repetitive but also pointless! I did write an e-mail to them once just to show my depreciation, but I didn’t intend to accomplish nothing with it, and I did do my best to be polite, otherwise my attempt would just backfire and they would use me as a scape goat saying “if they protest it means it’s truth”.
IF you guys have any intention to help out to dismiss these unimaginable accusations, the best course of action is:
a) show support for the companies that are being targeted. Either by purchasing more products to give them power to stay alive, or sending messages to MAYBE make them realize that while bending over might be the safest way to scape the immediate threat, it is not the right answer and yielding terrain will only lead them to extinction.
b) show your politics that you are unhappy with their attitudes. If you live in Japan make the politicians tell the EN to stfu. If you are near EN tell them to stop bitching. If you live elsewhere you can attempt both, while also addressing to the UN and telling them to stop with that crap.
c) This is the most important one. Telling the insane otakus that their rants, and ddos attacks, and mail bombs, and hate e-mails and all that, only hurt their own cause. Acting like chimps will only get them bananas after all ¬¬
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
Yes means no? This is why I hate feminazis, they try to make any kind of sex sound like rape.
the point of rape is women resist don’t want to have sex and get forced into sex.
Wonder where they took that answer
Greetings.
I’m a Greek male. Every Greek male is forced to serve for one year in the army, whereas the female don’t. I am a subject of sexist discrimination. I’d like you as your name states to support my EQUAL rights with women. If you think that gender equality (read BOTH sexes) is more important than non-existant female rights that is.
OK, I’m a girl, I dislike hentai, and I think lolicon is disgusting, but this group is retarded. “Evil misogynists?” Seriously? The line of logic is so simplistic and that kind of naive language is something you’d only see in children’s superhero shows and fringe political talk shows…..
Though I agree with you about the part for EN firstly if you hate hentai and think lolicon is disgusting then what the hell are you doing in this site if not for news? And second if we recheck your mail we don’t see a single word about you hating shotacon so in other words you’re a shotacon and still brag that lolicons are disgusting and that you don’t like hentai but I might be wrong about you being a shotacon though I doubt it that I’m wrong xD oh well it’s not like we care what you like and dislike xD
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai.”
Ok, true.
“This encourages rape”
O_O O_O O_O O_O O_O O_O
Yet it has the lowest rape statistics compared to other countries, even as a percentage.
“Japanese police experts on pubic hair”
“The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.”
This made me lol 8D
“…demanding a ban on hentai and other forms of pornography “harmful to women.””
I’m a woman, and I get off on stuff like that.How is that ‘harmful’ to me, as a woman?
Baah what do you know? xD You’re a woman and as a result you’re harmed by it even though you get off to stuff like this. There is no way you can resist EN and you must definitely accept their views! Remember they’re always right and they NEVER accept objections xD
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Right…. *thumbs nose*
For fucks sake honestly give this shit up. Worry about making the world a better place then get rid of the minor shit. Which, the world will never be a better place, so stop fucking worrying about little shit.
Those whorse have hearts of true dictators.
Ban all your evil shit now.
I know the japanese don’t have the balls to say fuck you to those loud crying groups but hopefully the UN, I hate the UN, has the common sense to see how they are bullshit.
And bomb em, bomb em we must.
Paper bomb of complains and suggestions
Then they should ban all pornography, too. And the underwear store — since the models are semi-naked. That could make guys horny, too!
There’s a limit of being a retard, EN. Your stupidity disgraces women.
How the hell should the guy know the girl doesn’t want to unless she resists? Screwed up feminists.
hentai=reap is UN=morons? errr yup.
Don’t think this will ever work out, especially not when sex is the fourth pillar of Japan’s economy.
I think of rape every time I see a woman. Oh shit, now what? Are you gonna ban yourselves?
“The Japanese government must ban everything WE object to and make it all illegal. The UN must tell the Japanese to do as WE direct”
oh please, they think they’re some dictatorship or some shit? its not even about equality for woman what bullshit its jus abt them and their disillusioned sense of justice
i meant deluded epic fail ~,~
Well, without sex they wouldn’t exist but they don’t think that far…
stupid govn..dont think cute japs are always loli..were asians look young eventhough our age is old..not like u europeans..or americans..ur 13yrs old looks like our 18yrs old
I and my sister still look pretty young.And my sister who is older then me still gets mixed up with a 15 16 y old.
Lol and we are europeans
You trying to hint something here, Fonzer? o_0
Everybody was right when they mentioned,being worried about the domino effect of banning.
Is it me, or does the letter seem highly suspect in validity.
I mean, hell. I know EN are batshit, but there’s no way such an organization would make such demands like “Make them ban everything we don’t like” to the UN.
I know, let’s ban hentai.
A lot of people find hentai sexy, so sexy in fact, it makes you want to RAPE SOMEONE.
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I know, let’s ban cars.
A lot of people find cars sexy, so sexy in fact, it makes you want to STEAL ONE.
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
So.. consensual sex = rape?
Does anyone else find that a misogynistic statement?
Any self respecting woman WOULD resist.
Clearly no ‘equality’ when only the woman’s “Story” is being heard.
There’s no such thing as ‘consensual rape’, anon. That’s just rough sex.
Unless your partner specifically says that they want you to ravage them, in no uncertain terms. But I don’t see why you need a writen and signed affidavit in case of criminal prosecution because s/he decides later they didn’t like it (the sex) after all! ><
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Who the fk they think they are.
Don’t worry…. the UN has weak fucking teeth legally where cases like this are concerned. They might…. *might*…. be able to say something about it to the Japanese government via their ambassador, but it’s a sovereignty issue.
The UN cannot determine an individual nation’s legal policies or laws, save situations such as when they had Iraq on the spot for UN WMD inspections before the Iraq conflict. But that was just to make sure Iraq wasn’t a threat to it’s neighbors. I highly doubt hentai or eroge are in the same league as WMDs.
EN pretty much fucked itself over, I think.
i bet some 4chan dude is going mental right now….
the japanese government must ban everything they object to? its pretty difficult to ban an entire gender from a country y’know, ya idiot feminists
IM GONNA RAPE YOU ALL DAMN FEMI-NAZIS!!!!!
(But Im going to do it with a bandageover my eyes, Im sure all of you are ugly… sorry)
Give them an inch, and they will take a mile.
A Death Note would be really handy right about now.
Congratulations, sankaku idiots!
By continuing to mail death threats and rape videos to the would-be censors, you’ve PISSED THEM OFF FURTHER and made them escalate the fight. If you’d stopped being such cocksuckers for a minute instead of making them think that all hentai fans deserve to be in jail, it would not have gone this far.
But no, I see you’re not satisfied and are still TRYING to get all hentai banned, so you INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENT their letter to the UN and encourage your members to send more hate mail. Did you eat AIDS for breakfast?
Go fuck your grandma and die a horrible death but before that STFU!
Lol, they don’t get the response they want to they complain to the “big daddy”. Too bad the “big daddy” don’t give a shit about their whining cause they got bigger things to worry about at the moment.
You give a moose a cookie and this what you get.
This is starting to feel pathetic… They are disturbed by the fact that they are getting hate mail for their actions and start crying to their Mama (US government) for help? They are just practically assuming things and want things to go the way they want. They are just like kids… who just recently found a new toy to play with.. Someone has to stand up and give them a good tight slap.
Just because the japanese government was tussled around from their “movement”, they see a shining light of hope that the world would go their way.
You know guys, the more you threaten to rape/kill/whatever them and post the usual “get back in the kitchen” crap, the more ammunition you give them to use in their case. You think the general public is going to side with the civil, coherently phrased argument, or the barely intelligible hate-filled ramblings of Internet psychotics?
Standing up for free speech is a noble goal and all, but every time I read the comments on this site I’m reminded of how excellent a job you do of sabotaging your own cause. If EN lose their appeal then it’s in spite of you, not because of you.
There’s collective stupidity on both sides of this issue, anon. But I agree with you on this.
You are an idiot if you think the general public listens to “civil, coherently phrased arguments”.
You think they’re more likely to to listen to hate mail and death threats?
Print out some of the comments to this article and show them to random people on the street. See what they think.
Equality Now makes me ashamed to be a woman.
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
nah o0o who the hell are you? Mr.Obama?
bored can’t be.. the president…there I said it. Now to drain out the nasty tastes of evil in my mouth.
It-I mean.. That!-no no no… ehem.
“he” is too busy turning America in ‘The ONEland’ to soil its—”HIS” hands on such a site as this! “HE” needs to do a hugo chavez and own all the media to bend them all the way down (pretty easy since they’re three quarters there already)to its feet and control everything now without that pesky need to earn capital with ads.
Sing together with the village kids (pre-election ad)now:
We are the world~~~ We are the One~~~ We lick hihs”HIS” boots~~~ We work the designated jobs~~~ We take want is deemed ours by BIG BROTHER~~~…
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too quiet…
SING PEASANTS!!!
SING NOW or out to the FIELDS you all GO!!!
RE: Bans imposition on adult games.
A complete ban on the adult games would spell problems for everyone. Firstly, i respect the feminist rights in protecting women and girls. However, should it be improvised, several markets will be affected. Japan, which has earned a name in adult market will suffer a decrease in its economy.
Furthermore, crimes assiociated with rape are likely to increase. “As we cannot fulfill our desires, we will have to do it to real people”
Ya, definitely this will happen
Now they’re starting to get megalomaniacal. Usually a sign of impending downfall.
I’ve seen this letter already and I was wondering when it would show up here…
Almost forgot: great picture. Love the rope marks.
I laugh at how they ignore the negative images of men, both young and old, as being vile rapists, and now pigeon-hole men even further. Yep, this is nothing more than women trying to force dominance over men, with the false image of equality.
Are they fucking insane now? Those stupid bitches would still probably not be satisfied even if this did go through.
Well, I sent a letter to them. It goes like this:
Being listed as one of the most safest country in the world to live in outside of foolish foreigners who kill them, I once lived there for over four years. I’ve walked many streets in broad daylight and close to midnight. Never once feeling nervous or looking over my shoulders for thugs to steal or kill me.
Not Once. The center of all pederasts is Japan? Why do you lie about this so much? These accusation have happened because you see that they have games that show women being raped. Then assume that of course, Japanese men gear up for their daily rape-a-thons with a little bit of play thru for backing up their plans with a computer rape simulation. Have any of you within this farce of a sad joke been to Japan, have you gone there and actually researched the statistics before going off on this moral crusade to save the female population? Or are you all finding it easier to lament about Japan because it’s safer to do so as compared to the rest of the world?
Your vorticity is borderline stalking tactics and intimidation on a country scale, why have you not followed on this crusade and protest the actually Killings of women across the world? Seen that movie now in the American theaters called ‘The Stoning of Soraya M.’? Amnesty International has reported over eight stonings -six being on WOMEN- (so far) happening in Iran and so have you protested this to UN yet? Are you truly trying to protect actual REAL woman from dying on an almost daily basis in Africa, the Middle East, Russia, South America, Europe, North America, South east Asia, Japan and China? But most primarily in the Middle East?
Or do you all condone those killings because it is allowed by RELIGIOUS LAW in most of the Middle East and you all have to respect that? Why are you protecting figments of the imagination rather than actual flesh and blood? Is it because people are making money off it? You don’t need to guess this, but many real female teenagers in Japan have been selling themselves off for escort duties because they need that new ringtone in their cells real bad. This “escort duties” range from simple dates to out right sex and Japanese directors have made movies about it since 1994! Those are Real young girls selling themselves off because of peer pressure or whim.
Please notice that last sentence and how it ends. On a “whim” will a girl sell herself off for money to buy the latest fad clothing, cell phone or jewelry. Will you protest about that too? No one Adult (Male or Female) forced those girls to do this. Will you retroactively condemn those girls from fifteen years ago?
There have been sensationalized media over the men who raped and/or killed females over the years. People like Tsutomu Miyazaki; A part of his name (Miyazaki) being an animators’ name who directed a recent movie called ‘Spirited Away’ that won an Oscar, was found to have hundreds of video tapes of animation and slasher films. He kidnapped, raped and killed four girls back in 1984. How about Takuma Mamoru who raped a young girl and went on a killing rampage that took the lives of eight people in 2001. Mutsuo Toi; who killed over twenty-nine people back in 1936. Sakakibara Seito is the alias of a then-14-year-old student who murdered an 11-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl in 1997. Yamaji Yukiois murdered his own mother (in 2000), a 27-year-old woman and her 19-year-old sister(in 2003). And many, many more that you can research upon if you’re even slightly interested to know.
But in the end, absolutely none of them outside of the first one mentioned -a very far, far stretch by any hand- had any connection to any one computer rape simulator. Those men (and children) murdered for closer reasons outside the realms of entertainment. One admitted that after they raped one of the victims he remarked that he loved the smell and look of blood and wanted to see more! What computer rape simulation compelled that man to do this?
You and your elk have been doing this sick roadshow for hundreds of years and condemning what’s easy to attack has been your primary modus operandis to make you all feel like you’re making the world fit better into your perceptions of reality. It works due to fears of lose of capital most often, but due to the power of the Internet. Your scams are now laid bare for all to see. Your records are no longer hidden and history will mark you as the harlots of falsity that you truly, truly are. You have ignored the realities of the world and wrapped yourselves into a cocoon of self-righteousness rage.
History will mark you well indeed.
That’ll piss their panties.. bunch of wanna-be whores!
You’d be surprised just how powerful self-denial can be. :(
Equality now don’t care about people. They never did. Its all about the ca-cing $$$$$$$.
Why the hell ban hentai? it’s not even real people! It’s just an artistic expression of eroticism. If they are considering banning hentai, why not ban all forms of pornography entirely? It’s just being personal now.
They ban it, and trigger a chain reaction of a critically increased crime rate.
Given how all the conditions meet, I dare say it’s a conspiracy to destroy Japan at this point.
Now imagine if you will otakus, given their mental stability, roaming aimlessly the streets in their hentai-deprived state. So much sexual rage… Forget about women, they will rape pretty much anything bipedal that moves, even stuff that doesn’t? They will even hunt in packs! It’s the end of civilization! Now that’s scary!
Thanks alot Equality Now!
I hope it’s just me failing to detect the irony in that comment….
Why don’t they pay attention to what’s happening in Africa, Afghanistan and whatnots? They’re fucking ridiculous.
Why hasn’t Equality Now started a campaign to get “Grape” renamed to another name ’cause it contains the word “rape”? /:)
I lol’d
They’re not going to stop are they? :(
Instead of Fighting REAL CRIME they Ban fiction? wow
Generic Email Create:
Dear Equality Now:
It stuns me to see that you are going to lengths this far to attempt to ban hentai and other forms of animated pornography by petitioning the UN to force Japan to make such things illegal. I am speaking to you as a fan of hentai, and yet also as a detractor of real life violence and rape, a dichotomy that you seem to believe is impossible for a person to hold. And yet, by deciding that all people who view animated pornography are misogynistic rape lovers, you enforce the same discrimination on an entire group of people, the same kind of discrimination that you claim to seek to eliminate.
I will grant you that some of the more provocative responses may have lead you to believe that this was the case, but you’ve also discounted sensible arguments and justly posed questionings of your rationale. You claim that you are not engaging in a war against pornography, and that “many also conflated Equality Now’s campaign to the opposition to sex.” and yet how can you claim that their displeasure is misplaced when less than a day later you make the statement that “Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.” as if to allude that all animated pornography, written or drawn, must be centred on rape, when this is simply not the case. As with all pornography found everywhere, hentai covers a wide range of genres and subcultures, not just rape as you would claim.
You’re lack of willingness to also see the legitimate points that people are trying to make is also mind-boggling. You attempted to provide evidence that the amount of rape in Japan was the largest in the world per capita, and yet when given statistics from multiple sources that proved how blatantly false these claims were, you backpedal and claim that those statistics are not legitimate, and then most frustratingly of all go on to claim that it is the lack(!) of evidence that provides you with the support you need, because people are seemingly “too afraid” to report rapes.
Above all, I am saddened and disappointed at the amount of time that you have spent on this issue, when there are many other more legitimate and pertinent problems that face women around the world today. You seem to be caught up in advocating for the rights of women that do not even exist in the technical sense of the word, claiming that their demeaning treatment paves the way for real life examples of such. Yet while you fight this battle REAL women are still being religiously, politically and socially repressed by traditional and governmental regimes elsewhere throughout the world. One would think that the concerns and plight of actual women would be of more value to you, but apparently this is not the case, and this is what I find the most disturbing of all.
That being said, I realize that you will probably not take this address seriously, but since you seem to believe that you hold some sort of moral and rational high ground on this issue, while at the same time grossly misrepresenting the facts and importance of said situation, I cannot help but speak out against what I myself view as a bigoted and ignorance based attack on a culture that does not deserve such treatment.
I wonder how many people here bothered reading the original version, lol.
Pornography depicting rape’s still pretty easy to find I think, in the West, so I’m not sure how strongly the UN could push that agenda without creating a disturbing double standard. But then again, the UN’s only useful for worthless things like that.
More importantly is their clause about changing Japanese laws. I think their suggestion to review the penalty of rape (minimal 3 years isn’t much for rape, if min. 5 is for robbery, supposedly) sounds reasonable enough, at least on their paper. I’d have to check what the Japanese laws actually say, and how it’s actually applied.
Most importantly is their suggestion that the Japanese court’s diligence in having women “prove that they resisted” is a bad thing. This, completely blows my mind. If women were allowed to be raped and not resist, but still be able to prosecute someone, what on earth is going to stop women from randomly prosecuting people?
Though, with that said, provisions would have to be made to account for rape done via date-rape drugs and the like (though honestly, I don’t know how many rapists actually do it while they’re unconscious, since I’ve never read much info on that stuff).
Seriuosly? i mean really? wtf? How about they go to a fucking country that actually has human rights violations against women and do something about that. I guess this is an easy target though and requires no real action other than whining and screaming till they get thier way.
Considering that the UN barely has the authority to intervene in failed states like Sudan, let alone a first world major economic power, I really don’t see what exactly it is they expect the UN to do. Their directives are routinely ignored, they can’t override state sovereignty and they’re certainly not going to send in the blue helmets. Although if I were running a hebtai company I’d try to relocate to America where there’s much less caving in on freedom of speech issue. If they’re so concerned about rape they’d go after the sex slave trade in eastern Europe, but I guess demanding the UN to obey them is easier than asking the same of the Russian mob.
So they want to ban the hentai, which doesn’t hurt any women, because some of it contains rape, but don’t attack 3D porn, which is the one that might actually hurt women?
The National Research Institute of Police Science in Japan had found that, despite the spike in availability of pornographic material in the country, sex crimes were declining. Looking at Japan, the major problem with sex crimes is not that hentai is spawning sex offenders, but that the country’s judicial system is completely unsympathetic to sex crime victims, sometimes even going so far as to blame them for their misfortune.
It often makes me wonder what groups like Equality Now are all about. They don’t seem to be tackling any significant issues that truly are an adverse effect on women throughout the world. Instead, they’ll waste their donated money to hire some big-time actress to star in their ads and attack the most sensationalist topics for more funds.
It’s astonishing how much logic twisting can be gathered in such a small text. My favorites:
“What steps is the Government taking to eliminate the promotion of violence against women through hentai and other forms of extreme pornography, including real rape videos”
I love this – it both discredits hentai by putting it in the same cathegory with rape vids, and it’s also structured as if “hentai = real rape” is an unquestionable truth.
“Notwithstanding the slight increase in the penalty for rape, in order to reflect the true severity of the crime what steps is the Government taking in response to the Committee’s previous recommendation to increase the penalty for rape and what measures are in place to ensure the full investigation and prosecution of all rapes in a serious and sensitive manner?”
And, my dear feminists, what proof do you have that the current punishment is not effective? I sure hope you have pretty colored tables to go with this document or else I’m stamping it “bull shit”.
“is easily accessible in Japan and its use is widely accepted”
Weasel words much? If they didn’t put “hentai” in front of that, you’d think they are talking about rape.
“This latter form of hentai, known as Loli-Con”
Ok, ok, one at a time, please. Don’t change topics just to make moralist crusaders more likely to support you.
“the image of women in the media, who were often portrayed as objects either of sex or violence, had a great impact”
Umm… got proof?
“(hentai) perpetuate gender stereotypes (…) by portraying women and girls as “enjoying” being rape”
Proof?
“required victims to give proof that they had fiercely resisted”
Well, what do you want? A woman pointing her finger and calling “rapist” to automatically result in 25 to life? Wait, don’t answer that.
“had been severely intimidated”
Criminals often try to intimidate their victims in court. The law has nothing to do with it. And neither does hentai tbh.
“depiction of one or more girl-children”
What about “boy-children”? For an organization that has “equality” in it’s name, you sure don’t mind discrimination.
“its obligations under Article 5(a) of CEDAW”
More weasel words. The government is under no obligations without solid statistical data to back up your claims.
“to address the broader issue of the stereotyped portrayal of women in these games and promotion of violence against women generally”
More weasel words. But putting “violence” and “these games” in the same sentence sure makes it look more convincing so who cares?
“has suffered an unprecedented hate mail”
Which is related to legality…. how? If your methods are unpopular among the people, you have only yourselves to blame. Take it to court if you have beef with the hate mail.
“videos that appeared to depict”
More weasel words. Disturbing as it may be, there is no reason to believe the vids wasn’t copied out of an AV.
“but the (police’s) lack of initial response serves to underline the Committee’s expressed concern”
I’m confused. What does the committee have to do with the police?
“women’s apparent reluctance to seek assistance from existing public institutions”
Proof?
“(EOCS) has just banned its members from producing games containing certain forms of sexual violence against women”
They banned rape just as you wanted. Under YOUR pressure. In a highly undemocratic fashion. But putting that aside, they are not legal authority and their decision is unimportant.
“(game studios) have apparently decided to prevent people from outside Japan accessing their websites in an effort to reduce criticism”
Read the fucking message on the said websites. There is a huge difference between “reduce criticism” and “protecting corporate intrests”, which do not necessarily overlap.
“it is the responsibility of the Japanese Government properly to address the objectification of, and violence against, women”
Be that as it may be, you still haven’t managed to prove link hentai with real violence.
Gotta love lawyers, ne?
If you’re an actual lawyer, anon, you’d be one of the few I’d consider a credit to the profession. ^^
The only thing I can say to that ladies is…
Dedicate all your time on the kitchen instead becoming goddess! May all the world’s men fuck you :p
I don’t see them campaigning against real porn, rape in movies, or sexual novels. The sheer amount of bullshit present is really starting to piss me off.
im sure UN isnt ganna do shit, since never did anything. and never will
god, no wonder females are criticised so much, they are fucking retarded, i mean really, stop hentai what are people going to do? that wont stop rape it’ll increase it because of a lack of anything else to do, i mean really fucking retarded, instead of picking on fucking cartoons, they should get a life and actually try to stop the PHYSICAL bullshit rather then putting the blame on a fucking drawing.
That’s their problem xD They pressure Japan since they know it won’t resist because they can’t do SHIT about real porn considering their influence on the world and that’s why they pick on the weak and after Illusion stopped selling their RapeLay the victory (if you can call it one) got to their heads and they started wanting ban for whatever they find disturbing or disgusting or immoral or what not shit xD that’s why I hate feminazis like EN but hey who on this site DOESN’T hate them? xD
who ANYWHERE doesnt hate them? hell, they even hate themselves
Damn girls don’t even have their facts straight. Rape-heaven? Australia and Canada have the highest rape rates, not Japan. At the same time some of Canada and Australia’s cities have been given the highest “best places to live” ratings.
I’m actually pretty damn sure Japan’s hentai is actually what keeps its crime rates so low. Everything can be relieved in a simulation rather than taking it too far.
Why don’t they just let people have their hentai? T^T
If they don’t want to view it they don’t have to, but it isn’t going to make anyone who views it a rapist. :P
maybe ur wanna try something milder….
then we can say we tried to persuade them but failed
then we can f them for all they ‘re
Wat do yur think of dis?
Dear Sir/Madam,
I refer to your organization’s recent letter by Ms. Jacqueline Hunt to CEDAW with regards to the Eroge/Hentai industry in Japan.
I understand that Equality Now aspires to eliminate all forms of gender discrimination and abuse especially in third-world countries where women are resigned to the most dismal and marginalized roles in society; it is an act that I am personally supportive of. Your relentless efforts are applaudable.
Nevertheless, on the basis of pragmatic reasons, I must suggest that your group stop its movement to pressurize the Japanese eroge industry.
Allow me to point out some inconsistencies in the letter.
Firstly, the hentai games in mention, such as RapeLay, do not perpetuate gender stereotypes. The portrayal of women as being in a submissive position in the game is not reflective of the Japanese male populace’s intentions of subjugating or compromising women. This takes instead from the genre BDSM, short for bondage, domination and sado-masochism. It is a widely found genre worldwide and has never been perceived by anyone to be an act of discrimination as much as it is a deviant sexual fetish. There is no evidence proving that the said genre promotes violence towards women and women only. As a matter of fact, as much as there are pornographic elements that portray abused females, there are a proportionate number of materials in Japan or in the hentai industry in general that have “dominatrixes”, basically the female equivalent of the rapist in RapeLay as well as males who are subject to the same treatment. This is above all, proof of the gender-indiscriminate nature of hentai/eroge and it is acknowledged publicly in Japanese society that these are fantasies that remain fantasies, fantasies that all are entitled to, regardless of gender. While there is indeed much left to be desired regarding this aspect of human sexuality, I believe it is not fruitful nor is it reasonable for Equality Now to attack the eroge industry based on this claim.
Secondly, with regards to the other themes subscribed to in the games, such as that of “incest and sexual abuse of schoolgirls”, these are universal themes that are found not only in eroge/hentai but also in pornography worldwide. For the majority of people who view pornography, this is a variation of sexual excitement, akin to a change of dressing over the same salad. The change in setting or perhaps position is more often than not, simply decorative. For instance, the school uniform is usually not expressive of the desire to bed a young girl. It is however indicative of man’s favoring youth and passion. The ultimate goal is not to derive pleasure from harming women, but just simple sexual gratification.
That said, admittedly there are perverted individuals who perceive it otherwise. However, it is never by eroge or hentai that perverts are born; these depraved individuals are inherently problematic or socially deprived and it is with this pre-requisite that they later seek refuge in either self-delusion or pornography. Eroge/hentai does not participate in the causal relationship between perversion and violence towards women. By no means, is it ever intended to or does it increase discrimination towards women.
In addition, I would like to clarify that the specific genre, lolicon is technically considered to be a part of the kawaii subculture of Japan than it is that of pornography (kawaii-cuteness). Any portrayal of abuse of young girls is a spillover of a liking for cuteness into the realm of sexuality. To be just, lolicon should be discussed in a separate context.
Then, it must be mentioned that the description of Japan’s situation as proof of the perpetuation of stereotypes is grossly misinterpreted, if not deliberately manipulated for effect. This is the faultiest paragraph of the letter. The “great impact on gender stereotypes” conceded by the Japanese authorities a case of cultural stereotypes as seen from beyond the country, as opposed to societal stereotypes amongst the Japanese. Traditionally, women in the media are demure and caring homemakers and thus the epitome of the Japanese lady that figures in any work of art or literature; take for example, the romantic Xu Zhimo’s “Sayonara”. It is thus a common conception by foreigners that the Japanese, their culture and their values are so and such. This cultural stereotype however is only on theoretical planes. With the exception of older generations, still not free of shibboleths of oriental tradition, actual modern day Japanese women are not expected to live up to these “qualifications”, nor will they be chastised or ostracized for betraying the cultural stereotype. Today, Japanese men and society recognizes the difference and respects female rights, proof of which is in the many woman friendly measures the formerly chauvinist nation implements to protect women. It is thus implausible for the stereotypes to be to the detriment of women anywhere, even fictional female characters.
“It was noted that in prosecuting the crime of rape, judges in Japan required victims to give proof that they had fiercely resisted and had been severely intimidated, and also that judges evaluated the victim’s “virtue”.” There is no link whatsoever between this phenomenon and the “myths surrounding rape”. The rationale behind this bizarre judicial process lay not in the widespread Japanese misunderstanding that girls enjoy rape, which in any case is non-existent even after years since the first eroge was published. In reality, it is the conservative and hesitant culture of the Japanese judicial system that resulted in this; the courts of Japan has a tendency of showing leniency to suspects of absolutely any crime unless his guilt has been ascertained beyond doubt. With reference to the statement, “The Committee also expressed concern that the penalty for rape was relatively lenient in Japan”, it must be pointed out rape and molestation is some of the hardest crimes to establish legally, as opposed to robbery or manslaughter which leaves little room for doubt. To make things worse, the legislature of Japan is still undecided on issues such as marital rape and implied consent. This is most unfortunate of course, but it must be understood that it was born of a flaw in the Japanese judicial system and is unrelated to the topic in question.
Also, the games in mention have a cathartic effect on males, especially potential sex criminals. Libidinal impulses inherent in males dictate that they must find an outlet to relieve themselves of their drive. The do this either through a leading a healthy sexual lifestyles, Freudian sublimation or through the use of sexual materials. Regrettably there are people incapable of the first two approaches. As opposed to venting their vagaries on actual living persons, it is for the greater good that they are granted access to pornography. If scientific proof is required, CASPER, a neutral organization based in Kyoto has published its report. It states that areas with ready access to a diversity of pornography have considerably lesser rates of sex crime. If juxtaposition is required, the obvious example of the nation of Saudi Arabia, which has a total ban on pornography and Kenya where your group should be very familiar with can be considered. The statistics do not support the claim that hentai/eroge compromise women. The statistics however, favor the claim that hentai/eroge dams up libido and protects women instead.
Nonetheless, I agree wholeheartedly with Equality Now’s stance on the actual gang rape videos and I am equally appalled by the cruel methods the perverts have used to protest. I believe this is the physical manifestation of my worst fears. All the more do I believe now that there is a real need to stop all action against hentai/eroge.
To conclude, I am primarily worried that should the case against hentai/eroge be heeded, the modern female’s standing might be compromised, exacerbating gender discrimination in Japan. It has been proven that ready access to extreme pornography does not contribute to the “prevalence of violence against women”. What your group is trying to do now, runs the risk of disturbing the equilibrium and unleashing chaos in Japan.
Jonathan Mitsuoka
intolerance must be fought with hentai.
send the most hardcore pic you have to Equality Now (http://www.equalitynow.org/english/contact/contact_en.html)
epic h loli.One loli gets penetrated streched so much that it also penetrates the other so he is actualy having sex with both girls.
But won’t post that lol
“Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
Uhh what? Isn’t that to make sure it really was rape?If I had sex with a prostitute and then she reports me for having sex/rape with her,I’m basically fucked,assuming prostitution was legal at that time.
I wonder if the the UN laughed as hard as I did reading that ridiculous letter.
dont they ever shut the fuck up for just a week -o-
theyre REALLY starting to get on my nerves now…
I finally wrote them a letter.
We need to keep up with the hate mail to EN, but also we need to send some well written mails to the Japanese politicians to show our support for freedom of expression. Don’t make this just an eroge issue.
this is like saying gta encourages murder “It must be banned!” but, it doesn’t ww
lets forbid everything, porn at all, then sex, then hm internet, cars, food, air, water, fuck u all I draw my own now
That’s fucking retarded. It’s NOT real life.
Sadly EN doesn’t seem to be in touch with reality. Perhaps they think hentai is real life? Such a possibility is…disturbing. @_@
Japan a Rape heaven? isint their crime and rape rates lower then most western nations?
Sounds like a case of bullying,pick on the weak call them all possible things that they aren’t.
EXACTLY.
Because most of them could be unreported. Social stigma gets put on the unmarried girl because she becomes “dirty” and the parents have more of an incentive to hide the event rather than to report it.
if hentai is stopped, rape rates will only increase and equality now will be on top of that list at FULL FORCE
These people have to be some of the most ignorant, arrogant and uneducated people that I have ever seen.
I just hope rest of the world is more intelligent then this. I seriously doubt the U.N will give a shit though.
this is actually starting to get quite entertaining, i wonder how the UN will react to this, and also don’t these chicks know that the more they try to bann and forbid hentai and stuff the more the masses want it. hehehe, ok then UN your move, let us see what will you become everyone’s hero or an enemy to the world.
uh, the UN doesn’t have that kind of authority.
no one does.
They however got influence nonetheless.
“…in order to appease American feminists.”
I lol’d. What egoistical ignorant fuck heads.
I’m under this impression that women have more rights and freedoms in Japan than compared to the U.S.A.
I honestly think they should look at their fucking own country before accusing other countries with better condition records than their own.
I think this is a waste of their time, since they probably won’t get very far with their stupidly conceived crusade.
Summary = FAIL.
what I’m afraid of is that they might actually get pretty far….the world is in a state of chaos..
I would like to hear what the majority of Japanese women think about this. After all, it is their country. If anyone should have anything to say on this matter it should be the Japanese women. I haven’t heard them complaining about what the EN is. They need to stay out of Japan’s business.
fuck those bitches! why attack anime and hentai, when movies of real life girs are just as bad. why the hell don’t they start with america’s porno industry?
DDOSING AT FULL POWER
Just like Japan walked out of the League of Nations in the 1930’s it might be time for them to walk out of the UN and tell the UN they have 48 hours to remove all personnel and equipment from the country and refuse re-entry of any UN people/groups in the future.
Since Japan is the second highest source of UN operating expenses, it would hurt them in the hardest way.
But modern Japanese politicians don’t even have a tenth of the spine that their predecessors had 60-70 years ago, so they will probably bend over and let the UN have their way with them. Just like in a cheap Yaoi story. Which, incidentally, will not be banned because there are no fake women involved and thus the femanazi’s could care less.
Yes, Japan should certainly quit the UN because an unaffiliated third party wrote to the UN asking the UN to ban some of their video games. That would be one for the history books.
Well, Equality Now, we want to see this determination firsthand and see if you can ban the North American pornographic industries first, which is accessible by children through useless Are You Over 18 confirmations and torrent sites. Calling Japan awful because of drawn photos of people making love while you let your kids watch videos that pretty much say girls are into random sex.
Do this and then the world’s best country might think about not putting a “yada!” in the game’s script.
Don’t they realize that if they ban one of the only outlets to Japanese sexuality, there very well may be an increase of rape.
Hentai ban… hmm can’t say I didn’t see this coming. -_-
“Japan is a nation which accepts hentai.”
So you’re telling me that [place name of nation here] doesn’t accept pornography in any manner and in any form of expression? And that said nation codemns it in everyway they can, is that it?
“Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
This is just plain hard core discrimination. The male population is at a disadvantage because this law doesn’t just apply to women but men to. If the female population are to be exempted from this law, then I can safely say that any act of sex will be considered rape. Also to begin with, this law is already disadvantageous to men since aside from just resisting rape, if the male victim is said to have achieve at least an erection, then it would no longer be considered rape anymore.
“The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.”
Who are you to the world and who are you to the Japanese people to say that. Again this is just plain hard core discrimination. To involve themselves into such topics which oppresses the country’s morale and freedom of speech, this is act is a serious form of terrorism.
The acts and claims of Equality Now is just down right discriminating to the very core. If the UN and Japanese government are to succumbed to their wishes, then the UN and Japanese government are supportive of communism, tyranny and terrorism. Thus further trusting the security and well being of every country in the world in the UN’s hands, should be nullified because it is they themselve who support communism, tyranny and terrorism, even if we are to say it is in lowest form.
If Equality Now truly wants equality, then the same set of laws that apply to men should be applied to women and vice versa. No more exemptions because of gender issues. Else the name Equality Now is just a facade to what should have been called Feminazi Now.
Furthermore, Equality Now should first prove their claims for “equality now” before ever attempting to tackle any more moral issues in one country.
Lastly. Japan should strike back since Equality Now’s just cleary being discriminating ever since the beginning. Their claims hold no ground and they can’t provide proper evidence.
Putting the notion of communism with these hypocritical idiots shouldn’t be done, since the notion of communism is supposed to be equal say, equal access, as a government of the community. Blame the corrupt officials for ignoring the origin of the word.
Now if you were to call their actions “totalitarianism”, then I would agree with you.
UN is already dealing with the following:
World Hunger (Especially in Africa)
Economic Crisis
Human Rights Violations
North Korea situation
Israel vs Palestine situation
And many much more.
But this racist group thinks a victimless industry is much more important than all of those combined?
I really think people should start finding out who are inEquality Now’s sponsors or donors, and send them mail instead or even boycott their businesses, so it would cripple the funding for these racists.
And EN are already violating Human Rights that is third on your list.
Sending EN e-mails even logical ones with good arguments doesn’t solve anything.
There sponsors is a good choice to go after.
After that you can also send a logical e-mail with very smart arguments (not the kind that says if they ban hentai people are gone a rape real women), to the UN and object to the human right violation of EN request that prevents you to enjoy artistic and fantasy material in the safety of your own home. A material that has no relation what so ever with real women,children or rape incidents and is no different that watching violence and action in movies and games.
There are other countries with more dire situations and real problems. South Africa has a huge rape problem right now, even their own government has encouraged their own military to rape women. Yet inEquality Now! chooses to target a completely docile country to wage war against with their racist propaganda.
I have to agree with the second and third comment, since it has come up before in an article from the NY Times. Heck, browse the articles here and you might find similar results.
anyone else notice that in the 1st paragraph they say “Loli-con”? i think that sounds like a very win convention ^^
I want to go to loli-con!
Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.
…..Wut?
So your saying even ifshe doesnt try and stop me, it could still be rape? and by that logic she could initiate it and call it rape after if she felt like being a bitch…. nice… very nice
any one notice that they keep mentioning japan six times and doesn’t mention other country other than japan. i guess their last resort was to be a racist. i wonder who in the heck made that letter, it look stupid to the person who think he/she’s still the pearl harbor era or probably wathcing the movie pearl harbor too much.
sexual abuse of schoolgirls… this form of hentai is known as Loli-Con… Wow…
The form of hentai is known as loli-con…
It was only after we impressed upon the police that actual (and not enacted) gang rape videos are
sold on the open market in Japan that they finally agreed to investigate further.
I mean how would they know that if even the police didn´t….Are they starting to make things up to suit their needs..
“Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.”
I guess sex is rape now.
Ok has anyone considered the old timetable which ends 2012 in June…..
WW 3
The month hentai gets totally banned…
Nahh it wouldn’t happen..
otaku are crazy bastards…and some of them are more than intelligent enough to find a means.
We need the 20,000 naked neets.
…I’m getting really annoyed with these EN idiots.
Seriously can you believe this shit? They’re fucking drawings. If they really want to help women in need go to the fucking Middle East. Oh that’s right they won’t because they’ll get fucking killed.
We need a hero like Light who has a Death Note who can kill these villians.
http://twitter.com/EqualityNow spam their twitter too
I just see the ppl at the UN going
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!11!one!1
UN is trying to shut off half the internet, so then they can put up there own Hentai, so they can gets the moneys.
theyre invoking the wrath of both 4chan and 2ch… hoo… run for cover!
From what I could see and analyze in this situation, Equality Now was game over from the beginning. All they did is throw tantrums. Of course, no one will respond, especially if they want to ban something so widespread. At this day and age, its impossible to ban hentai now (although I do agree when it comes to the actual gang rapevideos).
I guess they see that they have a better chance of getting their way with spineless politicians than selfish dictators.
Oh come now, they need to spend more time hunting illegal porn video makers such as the real child molestors and rapist in the real world than start banning porn game, comic, anime anime book which are FREAKING fictional and make believe.
I wonder how long it will be before their site gets the shit DDoSed out of it.
Seriously they need to shut the fuck up by now. I can understand how they can try to ban loli and rape games and whatnot, but banning ALL hentai is just going overboard. They may THINK that they’re helping all women (or should I say 2d characters who are getting raped in digital format), but what they fail to realize is that now they just made enemies with pretty much all fucking otakus on this damn planet.
I can’t believe how ignorant some of their remarks are. Does all hentai game contain a damn rape and torture scene? To these damn ignorant piece of shits, they do apparently. If they did even the slightest bit of fucking research they would know that not all hentai has some damn women getting raped by like five different guys. A lot of hentai has a good story and actual love stories where the girls actually give consensus to have sex instead of just the same old rape. Look at games like Kanon, Shuffle, To Heart 2X (yes they’re bad examples since the stories are meh, but you get the fucking point). Some hentai even go so far as to go through real personal issues and problems that happen in real life (for example, Yume Miru Kusuri).
I admit I play eroges since a lot of them are fun and entertaining. I also played a couple rape game as well because of my curiosity. They’re definitely not my thing since I don’t have that type of interest, but they are amusing to say the least. So after playing the rape games, did I feel like going out at 3′o clock in the middle of the night and rape the next woman that came into my view? OF FUCKING COURSE NOT. I lead on with my daily fucking life, going to school, my damn job, and chilling with friends and doing otaku shits. Just because I played a rape game, I didn’t get a sudden surge to go out and fucking violate a random chick. How do fucking Equality Now get the idea that playing a hentai game result in us (as in men AND women) turn to a horny sex monster/beast?
Oh and why do they think that hentai only involve a men raping a women? What happen to yuri and fucking yaoi as well? Once again they didn’t do their fucking research well enough to know that NOT all hentai involve women. What’s amusing is that a lot of hentai manga artist are women as well. But of course, Equality Now thinks hentai are all drawn by angry men who like to abuse women in 2d fashion. Yes, Equality Now, you are so fucking right. SIGH…
Also, who in blue fucking hell do they think they are telling another country what the fuck to do or not. Seriously this quote “The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.” just sounds so fucking racy that it’s not even funny. The literal translation feel like the “Japanese must succumb to our demands because we are all high and mighty”. What the fuck? Oh and hentai = rape automatically is just the stupidest fucking argument I’ve heard in a while. I guarantee everyone that sooner or later, Equality Now is going to ask for a ban on all anime and manga as well since there are hentai anime and manga. And since anime and manga tends to show girls with panty shots and breasts, it’s going to automatically result as hentai. My god they’re so fucking stupid.
Also, if foreign otakus are this frustrated, what do you think the reactions will be like from Japan’s otakus? Hentai and otaku lifestyle is part of Japan’s culture and these feminzai are too damn ignorant to see that. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a huge protest by otakus in Japan. Seriously, these are the types of women who make feminists look like the ignorant little fucks they are.
Let Equality Now come! YES Equality Now!! SIGH…
My god they’re so fucking stupid I wish they would just fucking die by now. People who are this fucking ignorant or dumb just deserve to die.
Case closed.
okay, seriously, hentai is ANIMATED!!! As in no one has ever been hurt in the making of one. it’s also an art form, so lets not forget our constitutional right to freedom of speech. to hell with censorship, it only breeds a society with no creative thoughts, i’m tired of hearing about all of these ‘organization’ that are hell bent on taking away all of our rights. the’re just too damnd lazy to keep their own kids from seeing what they don’t want them to. try being real parents a** holes. and one final note, japan has the lowest rape and molestation rates BECAUSE the’re exposed to the consequences of such acts, in other words the’re better educated because of their ‘not as’ censored media.