North Korea Conducts Nuclear Weapons Test

[Rob Pongi]

Rob, thanks for sharing that. Incredible photos and text.

No problemo amigo, but this is "THE MAN" who took these amazing shots - Mr. Artemii Lebedev:

http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/images/vbimghost/15452c6b55573b8.jpg

Cheers! :cheers:

[nullpointer]

As yet unsubstantiated rumour in the FX markets that a north Korean official in Beijing stated that sanctions will be construed as an act of war against DPRK.

[cstaylor]

As yet unsubstantiated rumour in the FX markets that a north Korean official in Beijing stated that sanctions will be construed as an act of war against DPRK.
They always say that. I think its time for China to put up or shut up. :!:

[Pokemon-Master]

Kim Dae-jung Blames US for Nuke Crisis
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200610/kt2006101117362710230.htm

South Korean president refuses Abe's request for joint condemnation of North Korea
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061011p2a00m0na004000c.html
South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun talked about his views on the history of Japan's wartime atrocities for 40 minutes during talks with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Seoul on Monday, forcing them to abandon a joint statement, entourage sources said.
Roh refused Abe's request to issue a joint statement condemning North Korea for its alleged nuclear test, according to the sources. The South Korean leader then talked for 40 minutes about his views on the history of Japan's atrocities during World War II and visits by Japanese politicians to the controversial Yasukuni Shrine.

[Pokemon-Master]

Radioactivity indicated from North Korea nuclear test
http://www.alaskareport.com/z44440.htm

[Charles]

As yet unsubstantiated rumour in the FX markets that a north Korean official in Beijing stated that sanctions will be construed as an act of war against DPRK.
It's not a rumor, I just watched video of the NK ambassador stating this on the floor of the UN, via CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/10/14/nkorea.sanctions/index.html).

North Korean ambassador to the United Nations Pak Gil Yon said Pyongyang "totally rejects the unjustifiable resolution."
"If the United States increases pressure upon [North Korea] persistently, [it] will continue to take physical countermeasures considering it as a declaration of war," Pak, said.
After Pak spoke, he walked out of the chamber.

[Pokemon-Master]

US most responsible for North's nuclear test: SKorean survey
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/US_most_responsible_for_North_s_nuclear_test_20061 016.php
SEOUL: The United States is more responsible than North Korea itself for Pyongyang's nuclear test, according to a South Korean poll

[Greji]

US most responsible for North's nuclear test: SKorean survey
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/US_most_responsible_for_North_s_nuclear_test_20061 016.php
SEOUL: The United States is more responsible than North Korea itself for Pyongyang's nuclear test, according to a South Korean poll:mad:

Well, I suppose the US should pull out their troops so that South Korea can return to their strong deterrent defense postue of 1950.

Since the Korean War (properly, the UN Police action) has not ended, it is only at armistice, the US Forces Korea also represent the UN Command. This means if NK attacks the South, they have violated their armistice with the UN and will be subject to counterattack by the UN Forces as before. Although this is primarily the US, it would still include the previous signatory UN member countries to the armistice from the UN.

I don't think Kim wants that, but you never know about that dingaling.
:cool:

[Pokemon-Master]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/supertaco44/Nuke.jpg

Report: North Korea Tests Nuclear Weapon (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218699,00.html)

North Korea Says Nuclear Test Successful (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/K/KOREAS_NUCLEAR?SITE=PASUN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)


Defiant North Korea preparing second nuclear test - intelligence reports
http://www.andnetwork.com/index?service=direct/0/Home/recent.fullStory&sp=l53711

[American Oyaji]

Lil Kim is such an butthead.
Short, pompadour wearing, napoleon complex having, short run looking, sawed off, squat, piece of emaciated bat guano!

We should have attacked him instead of Iraq

[GomiGirl]

Lil Kim is such an butthead.
Short, pompadour wearing, napoleon complex having, short run looking, sawed off, squat, piece of emaciated bat guano!

We should have attacked him instead of Iraq

Definately!! We should always use a hairstyle and body shape of the leader as the reason to attack a country.... :rolleyes:

Everybody hated Saddam Hussein cos he had a moustache and was evil looking. Well his country was attacked and look how well that turned out!!

Some people think that George W Bush's eyes are too close together.. should they use this as a valid reason to attack the US? :confused:

[Blah Pete]

Definately!! We should always use a hairstyle and body shape of the leader as the reason to attack a country.... :rolleyes:


OK, so we, like attack, hold 'em down and give him a proper haircut. Throw him on a stair stepper for a few days and cut off his whiskey. Parachute in a few designers from Italy and make him some custom threads. Pack up and go home and everyone lives happily ever after.

[Greji]

give him a proper haircut

Judging by what I see of his haircut Pete, we may not have to invade to handle that part. He may be able to just mail it to us to have it cut and we can cut it and send it right back.
:cool:

[Rob Pongi]

We should have attacked him instead of Iraq

Aaaaahhhh, how can I say this without being too blunt, aaahhhh, "No way Jose" :roll:

Let's not forget that there are now currently hundreds and hundreds of fully-armed divisions of the military of The People's Republic of China (PRC) dug in deep all along the Yalu river and all along down the borderline. It is estimated to be a fully trained and armored corps of over 150,000 troops! That's MORE troops than we sent to Iraq. And, let us not also forget that China has repeatedly expressed the very strong desire to settle this whole North Korea nuclear football match through diplomacy and peaceful negotiations. Period. And, remember, the PRC's total number of troops is estimated to be somewhere around 2.5 MILLION and can be expanded to over 3.5 million if the local militias were called in at a moment's notice et al and, essentially, all fall in together and become the world's largest standing army. 8O

So, even though they don't make this all "public" knowledge, believe me, it is a fact that THEY ARE THERE. And their "publicly" stated reason for being there is to supposedly stop North Korean refugees from escaping the DPRK and crossing the border. And, they definitely do that on a daily basis as they don't believe in firing warning shots! :crazy3:

Well, the 'other' reason for the PRC's very large deployment on the border will never be publicly stated or written, but for sure those 150,000+ fully-armed, fully-trained and ready-to-rock Chinese troops are there to make sure that the right-wing warhawks in the Pentagon don't get any sudden brainstorms of having some US miliary forces drop into the DPRK "uninvited" so to speak. No. Not an option. None of the above. So the PRC's presence on the border is also somewhat "political" in a BIG WAY! I mean, do they really need ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND TROOPS to stop all the North Korean escapees? Somehow, I don't think so.

Peace! :smoking:

[Charles]

A brief excerpt from Bob Woodward's new book (http://roxanne.typepad.com/rantrave/2006/10/all_you_need_to.html). Quoting George Bush:

"Why should I care about North Korea?"

[Mike Oxlong]

Some people think that George W Bush's eyes are too close together.. should they use this as a valid reason to attack the US? :confused:
:tounge:Naw, just use it to hi-lite the campaign to outlaw marriage with cuzinz in Texas:winka:

[Charles]

:tounge:Naw, just use it to hi-lite the campaign to outlaw marriage with cuzinz in Texas:winka:
George Bush doesn't have any relatives in Texas. He was born in New Haven, Connecticut.

[GuyJean]

We should have attacked him instead of Iraq Nah, we should've killed bin Laden and focused our attention on creating a functioning Afghanistan.. But that's another issue.. And different thread.. (http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6572)

NK is a tough one.. but the past 6 years of calling them 'evil', then doing really nothing else has resulted in NK quickly advancing their nuke ambitions..

This OpEd piece has some good ideas:

Where Are the Hawks on North Korea?
February 1, 2003
http://www.cfr.org/publication/6340/where_are_the_hawks_on_north_korea.html
.. But focusing on the hawks' hypocrisy misses the real danger in their policy reversal. They are now encouraging a White House that will neither negotiate with Pyongyang nor compel it to change course. The most likely consequence of this strategy is the acceleration of North Korea's nuclear program rather than its end― something that bipartisan policy has sought for decades to avoid. The administration's do-nothing policy is foolish and dangerous, and quite unnecessary.

Whether North Korea today possesses even a single nuclear weapon can be debated. The intelligence community based its conclusion that one or two bombs exist not on hard evidence but on the assumption that if Pyongyang could produce a minimal amount of fissile material, it could build a bomb. The White House itself agrees that Pyongyang currently possesses no more than two nuclear weapons. Preventing North Korea from acquiring more weapons is therefore essential. Although Powell dismisses the threat of additional weapons― "What are they going to do with another two or three nuclear weapons when they're starving, when they have no energy, when they have no economy that's functioning?" he asks― the threat is clear. A North Korea that has eight or 10 weapons, let alone dozens, has a much greater chance of delivering one successfully. And a North Korea that has weapons to spare can sell some to the highest bidders, such as al-Qaeda. This is precisely what a starving, bankrupt country is likely to do― and it is precisely the nightmare that President Bush warned against in denouncing the axis of evil.

In these circumstances, a policy of capitulation will not do. But neither is it enough simply to seek to restore the 1994 Agreed Framework. Pyongyang's admission that it violated that deal means that it must be made to do more now. It must account for all its fissile material and spent fuel, and ship both out of the country. It must also shut down all its nuclear facilities and place them under international inspection. And inspectors must have the right to go anywhere, anytime, to ensure North Korea's compliance.

The only way to get Pyongyang to end its nuclear aspirations is to offer it a choice between more carrots and bigger sticks. If North Korea agrees to these demands, the United States and its regional allies should be prepared to sign a peace treaty (including new security guarantees), establish full diplomatic relations and offer significant economic assistance― all tied to specific steps that North Korea must take to dismantle its nuclear program. As an extra incentive, Washington must make clear that if Pyongyang fails to put its nuclear facilities under international control within a preset time frame of one or two months, the United States will destroy its nuclear facilities― and the dear leader's regime should he choose to retaliate.

The Bush administration and its hawkish supporters have found their match in Kim Jong Il's North Korea. Now― when the very threat they have long warned of is about to materialize― is not the time for the United States to blink. Now is the time for unity in action to confront this threat. GJ

[American Oyaji]

Ok...maybe my attempt at humor felt flat as a steamrolled pancake.:confused:

Here's what I meant. NK shows a clear and present danger. Moreso than Iraq.
However, I know that the U.S. would NEVER attack Korea without provocation because of China. Also there are no resources that the U.S. wants access to there.

I was just venting at what a waste of the space time continuum Kim is. NK keeps pushing this "war with America" thing as if it something they actually want at some point.

I also don't believe you should call someone out unless you are ready and willing (and able) to black both their eyes. (Axis of Evil comment by Bush).

And GG, I am more sick of Bush than I am at Kim. I live in the same country as Bush.
There are things I could say about him, but I think we've heard them all.

I just hope in 2008 he doesn't try to extend his presidency with some fabricated terror alert.

[Captain Japan]

I just hope in 2008 he doesn't try to extend his presidency with some fabricated terror alert.
I don't think even terrorists could get Bush in again. He's in the middle of his second term, his last by law.

More Kim news...
Business booms for fallout shelter industry following North Korea's nuclear test (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/20061016p2g00m0dm025000c.html)
Mainichi
Not everyone in Japan is entirely peeved by North Korea's nuclear test earlier this month - fallout shelter constructors are doing a roaring business, according to Sunday Mainichi (10/29).

Oribe Seiki Seisakusho, Japan's prime purveyor of shelters guaranteed to withstand atomic force explosions, has seen business skyrocket since Kooky Kim let loose with an underground nuclear test on Oct. 9.

Since then, the Kobe-based company has been swamped with inquiries and orders for its shelters from individuals and corporations alike.

"After North Korea fired its Taepodong missile in 1998 and the Sept. 11 attacks five years ago, we had a lot of people contact us with simple inquiries like wanting to know what fallout shelters were," Oribe's Nobuko Oribe tells Sunday Mainichi. "After this test, though, the callers who've really stood out have been those asking us detailed questions, like what sort of floor plan the shelters need and how much they cost."...more (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/20061016p2g00m0dm025000c.html)...

[Mike Oxlong]

George Bush doesn't have any relatives in Texas. He was born in New Haven, Connecticut.
Yes, I was technically inaccurate (but still funny). You are technically inaccurate as well (and an ass). Wonder where his parents live...:rolleyes:

Wikipedia: Since his final election campaign, (G.H.W.) Bush has mostly retired from public life. He and his wife live most of the year at their home in the exclusive neighborhood of Tanglewood in Houston, with a presidential office nearby...

[Rob Pongi]

Ok...maybe my attempt at humor felt flat as a steamrolled pancake.:confused:

Here's what I meant. NK shows a clear and present danger. Moreso than Iraq.
However, I know that the U.S. would NEVER attack Korea without provocation because of China. Also there are no resources that the U.S. wants access to there.


"D'OH!" Sorry AO-san. I get it now:

BOKU WA ASHITA DE TOSHIBA HONDA MOTOROLA TO PACINKO CHIMPO!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Pokemon-Master]

Iran should have the Nuke in a few more months