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Blues · 2004-06-11, 01:32 PM

I just came across this article- enjoy!

Marriage-minded maidens demand
more, and more, and more!

By Ryann Connell
Staff Writer

June 10, 200
It's wedding season in Japan now, but marriage matchmakers are finding there aren't too many happy June brides around this year, according to Shukan Taishu (6/21).

"We've had women who won't marry unless we can find them a doctor. I could understand if the client was a graduate of some top university and was a real looker, but most of the time the most stubborn ones are the types who I sort of look at and think, 'Hey, you're getting a bit ahead of yourself here, kiddo,'" Keiko Omi, a counselor at the Belle matchmaking service in Tokyo, tells Shukan Taishu.

Recent surveys have showed there are 300,000 more Japanese men of marriageable age than their female counterparts, but that most unmarried women are uninterested in tying the knot. Many of those who do want to wed, though, are pricing themselves out of the market. A 32-year-old Tokyo woman is a case in point.

"She works for an electronics company that everybody's heard of. She's pretty plain. But the conditions she demanded of her marriage partner were absolutely outrageous," a Tokyo matchmaking operation boss says, going through the list of 18 items the woman specified as necessary in her ideal husband. Her demands, all typed out neatly on A-4 paper, went through the ordinary requirements of hefty income, good looks and a decent academic record and also included specific requirements for property ownership, health condition and how much he could expect to inherit.

"When I read her demands, I told her there's nobody in the country who'd meet EVERY requirement she'd insisted on. She told me that was OK and then said she'd pay an extra 1 million yen if I could find somebody who met 'at least two or three' of her conditions," the operator says. "She was an extreme case, but there are women out there looking for too much. Unlike the past, where marriage was everything, many women don't feel the need to get married anymore."

Unemployment, which is hurting women especially hard, is also changing marriage mores.

"This 21-year-old woman due to graduate from university came to me looking for a marriage partner. I was really surprised to learn the views some women today have of the institution of marriage," a matchmaker in Yokohama tells Shukan Taishu. "She told me she'd looked really hard for a job, but couldn't find anything. Then she said her father had been transferred to Osaka and her mother was going with him so she'd have to find a place of her own, but was scared of trying to pay the rent. She wanted to get married so she wouldn't have to worry about that. She added that she was currently seeing a number of men, but that none of them would be interested in marrying. She said she didn't mind marrying somebody up to about 35, as long as he owned his own apartment."

Despite a reputation for being at least ambivalent toward foreigners, Chinese wives are finding fans in the Land of the Rising Sun.

"Farm girls from the poor northern part of the country are really humble. The only thing they ask of prospective husbands is that they be home-oriented and, at the very most, be prepared to be kind to her parents and his own," a broker of international marriages tells Shukan Taishu. "Chinese women would make much better wives than their contemporary Japanese counterparts."

With Japan's divorce rate skyrocketing, setting up re-marriages are also a flourishing part of the matchmaking industry. Those seeking to enter a multiple marriage are less likely to be worried about a prospective partner's background and more worried about bedroom etiquette.

"We had this 41-year-old woman who came to us and said she didn't care about the guy's age or income, but he'd have to be able to satisfy her sexually. Her ex-husband had only been able to perform about once a week and she wasn't happy with that," a spokesman for a company specializing in matching the middle-aged tells Shukan Taishu. "When I asked her how often she'd need to have relations, she went bright red and then answered, in a tiny voice, 'Every night.' But then she added, 'And he's gotta be hung. I can't be with small guys. I need one that's at least big enough to wrap both hands around it.' We checked out all the men registered with us. Some of them felt up to once a week, but most flinched when we told them they'd need to perform every night."

gentleman quality · 2004-06-11, 03:59 PM

"a broker of international marriages tells Shukan Taishu- Chinese women would make much better wives than their contemporary Japanese counterparts."

Eh? Really? Sounds like he's just trying to push his product while he gets the free advertising.. Well, if he was a SUCCESFUL "broker of int'l marriages" he'd be about to come up with some more provocative advertising than that..

for example:

"FIND YOUR ONE AND ONLY IN A MILLION WOMEN FROM RUSSIA AND UKRAINE!

What makes these women so desirable? Why are so many men willing to go to the other side of the world to find a wife?

Russian women are the most beautiful women on earth. They possess an exotic look and quality that combines the class of "European women" yet remain natural and delicate and embody the seductive traits of womanhood that men seem to adore. Most of these women take good care of themselves; they are slim and are in excellent shape. These women are not materialistic - a man cannot buy their love - he must instead win her heart. Russian women are known for their loyalty, for being affectionate, caring, and very family-oriented. Russian wife is always ready and willing to compromise on all issues. Russian women are also very smart and hard working. They can do it all: they're good lovers, dedicated mothers, great cooks, they are tidy and organized, and have proven to be very competent and reliable professionals! These characteristics make them (in our view, as well as in the view of many men) superior to most Western women. "

(http://www.1-in-a-million.com/)

case closed! russian brides are not only the most beautiful women on earth, non-materialistic, and good lovers, but they are also reliable professionals! can you say the same about their mail-order chinese counterparts?

Blues · 2004-06-11, 04:51 PM

Nope GQ, the whole thing is about how some Japanese women are. Am not concerned about Chinese, Russian or American women.

gentleman quality · 2004-06-11, 05:08 PM

well, the main message that I got from reading that article is that the 300,000 hard up japanese men are better off ordering a mail order bride from China than hooking up with a shallow, materialistic japanese girl. sounded like an ad to me. so i tried to one-up 'em.

Blues · 2004-06-11, 08:14 PM

Well this is a trend that Japanese women always seem to go thru. And before the Chinese girls, it was Phillipans marrying Japanese men. It just goes to show that the guy from Texas who wanted to come and marry a Japanese woman within 2 months does have a chance.

2004-06-11, 08:24 PM

Yeah to be honest this guy does come up with a lot of crap of MainichiWai Wai which only furthers the "those crazy japanese" idea so commonly held among non-Japanese.
If you search, you can find stories about freaks and sexually-unsatisfied women anyday. Both his examples were from Tokyo area - would have been better to have data from more rural parts of Japan (not northern China either, no)
I think the author is a sensationalist and that the article is crap. No I couldn't do better because I would not want to be involved in spreading crap about "Japanese women just don't want to get married !
What does he mean by "those wanting to enter a multiple marriage"
Far better would have been to discuss women's independence and lack of reliance on men financially. Or to examine whether there are women who want to marry and raise children and never to work. Or to somehow account for a rising divorce rate. Or a review of Japanese constructions of masculinity with a retrospective of 甘えの構造.
But this is just sensationalist crap.

Kurogane thanks for last night. Where did you meet that Ayako ? She is certainly hot property. I'll give you back that 50,000 next time. Yes of course my arse still hurts

chamcham · 2004-06-13, 08:32 PM

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"We had this 41-year-old woman who came to us and said she didn't care about the guy's age or income, but he'd have to be able to satisfy her sexually. Her ex-husband had only been able to perform about once a week and she wasn't happy with that," a spokesman for a company specializing in matching the middle-aged tells Shukan Taishu. "When I asked her how often she'd need to have relations, she went bright red and then answered, in a tiny voice, 'Every night.' But then she added, 'And he's gotta be hung. I can't be with small guys. I need one that's at least big enough to wrap both hands around it.' We checked out all the men registered with us. Some of them felt up to once a week, but most flinched when we told them they'd need to perform every night."
>

*blink blink*

Would anyone happen to have this woman's phone number?
I'm perfect for her........... :-p

Post Edited (06-13-04 20:43)

2004-06-11, 01:32 PM	#1
Blues GrandMasterPot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 1,092	Who says Japanese women want to get married? I just came across this article- enjoy! Marriage-minded maidens demand more, and more, and more! By Ryann Connell Staff Writer June 10, 200 It's wedding season in Japan now, but marriage matchmakers are finding there aren't too many happy June brides around this year, according to Shukan Taishu (6/21). "We've had women who won't marry unless we can find them a doctor. I could understand if the client was a graduate of some top university and was a real looker, but most of the time the most stubborn ones are the types who I sort of look at and think, 'Hey, you're getting a bit ahead of yourself here, kiddo,'" Keiko Omi, a counselor at the Belle matchmaking service in Tokyo, tells Shukan Taishu. Recent surveys have showed there are 300,000 more Japanese men of marriageable age than their female counterparts, but that most unmarried women are uninterested in tying the knot. Many of those who do want to wed, though, are pricing themselves out of the market. A 32-year-old Tokyo woman is a case in point. "She works for an electronics company that everybody's heard of. She's pretty plain. But the conditions she demanded of her marriage partner were absolutely outrageous," a Tokyo matchmaking operation boss says, going through the list of 18 items the woman specified as necessary in her ideal husband. Her demands, all typed out neatly on A-4 paper, went through the ordinary requirements of hefty income, good looks and a decent academic record and also included specific requirements for property ownership, health condition and how much he could expect to inherit. "When I read her demands, I told her there's nobody in the country who'd meet EVERY requirement she'd insisted on. She told me that was OK and then said she'd pay an extra 1 million yen if I could find somebody who met 'at least two or three' of her conditions," the operator says. "She was an extreme case, but there are women out there looking for too much. Unlike the past, where marriage was everything, many women don't feel the need to get married anymore." Unemployment, which is hurting women especially hard, is also changing marriage mores. "This 21-year-old woman due to graduate from university came to me looking for a marriage partner. I was really surprised to learn the views some women today have of the institution of marriage," a matchmaker in Yokohama tells Shukan Taishu. "She told me she'd looked really hard for a job, but couldn't find anything. Then she said her father had been transferred to Osaka and her mother was going with him so she'd have to find a place of her own, but was scared of trying to pay the rent. She wanted to get married so she wouldn't have to worry about that. She added that she was currently seeing a number of men, but that none of them would be interested in marrying. She said she didn't mind marrying somebody up to about 35, as long as he owned his own apartment." Despite a reputation for being at least ambivalent toward foreigners, Chinese wives are finding fans in the Land of the Rising Sun. "Farm girls from the poor northern part of the country are really humble. The only thing they ask of prospective husbands is that they be home-oriented and, at the very most, be prepared to be kind to her parents and his own," a broker of international marriages tells Shukan Taishu. "Chinese women would make much better wives than their contemporary Japanese counterparts." With Japan's divorce rate skyrocketing, setting up re-marriages are also a flourishing part of the matchmaking industry. Those seeking to enter a multiple marriage are less likely to be worried about a prospective partner's background and more worried about bedroom etiquette. "We had this 41-year-old woman who came to us and said she didn't care about the guy's age or income, but he'd have to be able to satisfy her sexually. Her ex-husband had only been able to perform about once a week and she wasn't happy with that," a spokesman for a company specializing in matching the middle-aged tells Shukan Taishu. "When I asked her how often she'd need to have relations, she went bright red and then answered, in a tiny voice, 'Every night.' But then she added, 'And he's gotta be hung. I can't be with small guys. I need one that's at least big enough to wrap both hands around it.' We checked out all the men registered with us. Some of them felt up to once a week, but most flinched when we told them they'd need to perform every night."

2004-06-11, 03:59 PM	#2
gentleman quality Sensei Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tokeeyo Posts: 234	Re: Who says Japanese women want to get married? "a broker of international marriages tells Shukan Taishu- Chinese women would make much better wives than their contemporary Japanese counterparts." Eh? Really? Sounds like he's just trying to push his product while he gets the free advertising.. Well, if he was a SUCCESFUL "broker of int'l marriages" he'd be about to come up with some more provocative advertising than that.. for example: "FIND YOUR ONE AND ONLY IN A MILLION WOMEN FROM RUSSIA AND UKRAINE! What makes these women so desirable? Why are so many men willing to go to the other side of the world to find a wife? Russian women are the most beautiful women on earth. They possess an exotic look and quality that combines the class of "European women" yet remain natural and delicate and embody the seductive traits of womanhood that men seem to adore. Most of these women take good care of themselves; they are slim and are in excellent shape. These women are not materialistic - a man cannot buy their love - he must instead win her heart. Russian women are known for their loyalty, for being affectionate, caring, and very family-oriented. Russian wife is always ready and willing to compromise on all issues. Russian women are also very smart and hard working. They can do it all: they're good lovers, dedicated mothers, great cooks, they are tidy and organized, and have proven to be very competent and reliable professionals! These characteristics make them (in our view, as well as in the view of many men) superior to most Western women. " (http://www.1-in-a-million.com/) case closed! russian brides are not only the most beautiful women on earth, non-materialistic, and good lovers, but they are also reliable professionals! can you say the same about their mail-order chinese counterparts?

2004-06-11, 04:51 PM	#3
Blues GrandMasterPot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 1,092	Re: Who says Japanese women want to get married? Nope GQ, the whole thing is about how some Japanese women are. Am not concerned about Chinese, Russian or American women.

2004-06-11, 05:08 PM	#4
gentleman quality Sensei Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tokeeyo Posts: 234	Re: Who says Japanese women want to get married? well, the main message that I got from reading that article is that the 300,000 hard up japanese men are better off ordering a mail order bride from China than hooking up with a shallow, materialistic japanese girl. sounded like an ad to me. so i tried to one-up 'em.

2004-06-11, 08:14 PM	#5
Blues GrandMasterPot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 1,092	Re: Who says Japanese women want to get married? Well this is a trend that Japanese women always seem to go thru. And before the Chinese girls, it was Phillipans marrying Japanese men. It just goes to show that the guy from Texas who wanted to come and marry a Japanese woman within 2 months does have a chance.

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2004-06-11, 08:24 PM	#6
Anonymous Posts: n/a	Re: Who says Japanese women want to get married? Yeah to be honest this guy does come up with a lot of crap of MainichiWai Wai which only furthers the "those crazy japanese" idea so commonly held among non-Japanese. If you search, you can find stories about freaks and sexually-unsatisfied women anyday. Both his examples were from Tokyo area - would have been better to have data from more rural parts of Japan (not northern China either, no) I think the author is a sensationalist and that the article is crap. No I couldn't do better because I would not want to be involved in spreading crap about "Japanese women just don't want to get married ! What does he mean by "those wanting to enter a multiple marriage" Far better would have been to discuss women's independence and lack of reliance on men financially. Or to examine whether there are women who want to marry and raise children and never to work. Or to somehow account for a rising divorce rate. Or a review of Japanese constructions of masculinity with a retrospective of 甘えの構造. But this is just sensationalist crap. Kurogane thanks for last night. Where did you meet that Ayako ? She is certainly hot property. I'll give you back that 50,000 next time. Yes of course my arse still hurts

2004-06-13, 08:32 PM	#7
chamcham Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 55	Re: Who says Japanese women want to get married? > "We had this 41-year-old woman who came to us and said she didn't care about the guy's age or income, but he'd have to be able to satisfy her sexually. Her ex-husband had only been able to perform about once a week and she wasn't happy with that," a spokesman for a company specializing in matching the middle-aged tells Shukan Taishu. "When I asked her how often she'd need to have relations, she went bright red and then answered, in a tiny voice, 'Every night.' But then she added, 'And he's gotta be hung. I can't be with small guys. I need one that's at least big enough to wrap both hands around it.' We checked out all the men registered with us. Some of them felt up to once a week, but most flinched when we told them they'd need to perform every night." > blink blink Would anyone happen to have this woman's phone number? I'm perfect for her........... :-p Post Edited (06-13-04 20:43)

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