Otaku are paedophiles in disguise?

[Klilynkun]

Self-professed 'real otaku' rips into 'moe' fetish fakers
One of Japan's most prominent woman manga artists has lashed out at the country's burgeoning otaku culture, saying that those now proudly boasting of being geeks are little more than pedophiles, perverts and losers, according to Shukan Bunshun (5/18).

Mimei Sakamoto, a multitalented manga artist whose "Nippon no Mimei" is a must-read for all hip young Japanese, rips into the otaku, whose geek culture has moved into the mainstream courtesy of the business of "moe," a word that literally translates as "gushing" and describes the warm feeling the otaku get when they see something they like.

"Perhaps it's because 'Train Man' (the story of an otaku who wins the heart of a pretty woman) was such a hit, but recently I've seen all these dorky guys walking around in thick glasses and checkered shirts and it pains my heart to think that they may be hoping to meet some pretty girl who's going to fall in love with them. Sorry guys, the chances of that happening are zero," Sakamoto tells Shukan Bunshun.

Sakamoto goes on to lambaste the otaku tendencies to idolize young girls and women wearing spectacles.

"This fetish you call 'moe' is a pedophiliac fetish and is nothing more than perversion. It's not really something you should be gushing over," the manga artist says, addressing the otaku. "In other countries, they'd call what you're fantasizing over 'child pornography' and you'd all be arrested. I'm ashamed that these 'otaku' who are perpetual criminals have entered the mainstream and started an otaku boom."

Sakamoto continues, saying that those now regarded as otaku really aren't geeks at all.

"All the world is going around talking about maid cafes and stuff and making these so-called otaku look good. But people must realize that these guys are simply men incapable of recognizing reality and are incapable of being in a normal loving relationship. I can't stop crying over the fact that these people have been labeled as otaku and that we are now going through an otaku boom," she tells Shukan Bunshun.

The manga artist also points out that sharp marketers are also suckering the ersatz otaku.

"There's a tendency in the otaku market to avoid producing contents that are going to sell in terms of millions or tens of millions. Instead, they find a semi-hit then bring out figurines, DVD box sets, premium editions and all sorts of related materials that are drastically over-wrapped and sell to the same people who bought the original product in the first place," the manga artist says. "So-called otaku are caught up in this money making cycle and all they're doing is spending their hard-earned yen (which often comes from their parents in a lot of cases). And, what's really sad, is that loads of these gullible suckers don't even realize that they're being taken for a ride."

Sakamoto claims to have street credibility.

"I'm a fully-fledged otaku. I used to shut myself away from the world. A real otaku would never go out and about in the world because they wouldn't believe anything good could happen to them if they did so, anyway. They all believe the world is out to get them," Sakamoto tells Shukan Bunshun. "Real otaku should go back and shut yourselves off from the world again. The true value of being a real otaku lay in the belief that nobody else understands you."



In other words.... otaku are idolized nerds(?) who are nothing more than mainstream paedophiles(?)

I don't think I like that definition :box:

[Crowley]

Typical rant of someone whose prized fandom is suddenly invaded by the mainstream.

[Daishikaze]

She has a point about certain things (like about the marketing and so on), but then again, she said all true Otaku should lock themselves away from the world and basically shun human contact unless that person is another otaku, which is not normal either.

Otaku are really scary people

[kilreli]

"Real otaku should go back and shut yourselves off from the world again. The true value of being a real otaku lay in the belief that nobody else understands you."

so..if im understanding this right....otaku's are Emo? (somethin thats goin around in america for all you non-americans)

YOU ARE OTAKU! WHAT ARE YOU DOING WALKING AROUND IN DAYLIGHT! GET BACK IN YOUR CAGE:cough cough: i...mean... room!

...cause that'll really make you take your mind off of the anime girls you'll spend all your time reading about?

she's telling them to become....shoot...i forgot the name...but those people who seriously stay in their rooms for years and never come out. well...they do go out to take craps and junk...
that doesnt sound like best way to turn to.
its like someone saying to a depressed teen, "Dont cut your stomach or legs.....your a depressed teen! the WRISTS!! cut the WRISTS!!!! thats what depressed teens are supposed to do!!"

[Klilynkun]

I wonder if the otaku stopped buying her mangas and such... if she'd change her tune

[PopCulturePooka]

Hahahah
Pedo's.

Its funny cause its true.

[kilreli]

hmmm...someone just had a message on here about "moe" being something else, but must have realized their error, and deleted it. For everyone else though, in this quote by the woman, she is referring to this moe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_%28slang%29
As you can see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe , M.O.E. (Master of entertainment) is also on the list, but not what she was talking about.

[Klilynkun]

what's the difference between an M.C. and M.O.E.?

[kilreli]

what's the difference between an M.C. and M.O.E.?
M.C.? the only M.C. i can think of is Master Chief... :duh:
well and also MC like the music one...but that doesnt have the "." in it

[Danistar]

Hammer time.

[Klilynkun]

M.C. = master of ceremonies... this was known in the eighties with M.C. Hammer and KRS-One and such... but it has changed....

so what's the difference between Master of Ceremony(M.C.) and (M.O.E.)

[kilreli]

now i understand it!!!:duh:
MISTER CHICKEN!
its a restraunt by my house...how could i forget.:duh: :duh: :duh:
so what's the difference between Master of Ceremony(M.C.) and (M.O.E.)
wait...is it supposed to be a joke? like why the chicken crossed the road?
cause we already said that M.O.E. means master of entertainment

[Klilynkun]

yes M.O.E = master of entertainment... but why is it being used instead of M.C.? What is the difference?

[MNJetter]

So...this manga artist is trying to say that there is a greater number of pedophiles among otaku than among normal Japanese people?

I wonder if that bartender that Az talked to is into manga? :watson:
Y'know, Mr. "17 is ideal! But 16 is still good. 15 is good too. 14 is actually very nice. 13... " from Skanks 'R Us.

[Klilynkun]

:boggled: that would mean those female otaku that fawn all over those male characters and paedophiles as well?

It's no wonder they fit so well in japan

[MNJetter]

I think the manga artist was talking about Japanese otaku....the real kind....not American "otaku."

I know that there are female otaku in Japan, but they don't make a whole lot of underaged male heart-throb characters. Most of the male characters are more in the "tall pretty man" category anyway. It's the female anime characters who are nearly always big-breasted teenaged nymphs in schoolgirl uniforms. ...in this way, I can see where that manga artist is talking about.

[Klilynkun]

true... but I have yet to see an underaged japanese girl with big breasts etc etc etc.

[MNJetter]

Well, yeah, but I very rarely see any Japanese girl with big breasts. At least the underaged part fits half of the otaku fantasy.

[Klilynkun]

If they ever started feeding those girls properly or let them stop some of those gymnastic clubs and wot not and actually let their bodies develope properly I think 4/5 of all japanese men would be in prison for under-aged rape

[kilreli]

Well, yeah, but I very rarely see any Japanese girl with big breasts.
why do you have to remind us.....:gloomy: :gloomy: :gloomy: :gloomy: :gloomy:

[PopCulturePooka]

true... but I have yet to see an underaged japanese girl with big breasts etc etc etc.
How long have you lived in Japan?

[Klilynkun]

I haven't/don't lived/live in japan

But what i said must be true.... or there would be a good number of Women with decent curves and some meat on dem bones

[PopCulturePooka]

There are.
Most of the GF's/special friends I had in Japan had curves and boobs.
Don't believe everything you see/here.

[MNJetter]

If a good number of Japanese women had big boobs, I wouldn't have the horrible problem that I have finding clothes here that fit all three measurements. The ones you know must be a rare breed, Pooka.

[Klilynkun]

Here's another bit of news for ya.... pretty sick though

Just plain disturbing: Japan's newest batch of idols on the wrong side of 10

Japan is sick. Not satisfied with a booming market in the borderline pedophile Under-15 pin-up princess business, now there's 9-year-old cheesecake going mainstream, according to Shukan Post (5/19).

Japan's market for pubescent pin-up queens has already proved to be lucrative, with thousands of perverted consumers forking out their hard-earned yen for a DVD filled with images of a scantily-clad 11-year-old called Saaya, who is billed as a "kyonyu," or "buxom" idol.

Saaya has also joined forces with California-born 12-year-old Jessica and another 12-year-old called Shizuka Umemoto to form a group called Sweet Kiss, which has Japan's nerdish otaku drooling lecherously at the various signings and "handshake events" they attend, the men's weekly says.

Now, however, Japan is stooping even lower with the emergence of 9-year-old Mizuki Yoshii, who has become the face of Japan's vile but burgeoning Under-10 idol business.

Born on May 15, 1996, Mizuki still hasn't reached double figures. But her sales figures are already impressive. Her photo collection went on sale in March, with the initial print run set at 6,000 copies. It has already gone into a second printing and topped 10,000 copies, the standard for a best seller in Japan. What's more, hits on her talent agency's website have skyrocketed since the 9-year-old appeared on the scene.

Mizuki's photo collection is little more than pedophilia. She appears clad in all sorts of garments, the vast majority of them scanty, and the shots cater to the traditional sick tastes of perverts, with the little girl decked out in her school uniform, PE bloomers and swimsuit -- all staples for child cheesecake fans in Japan.

Producers of the pre-pubescent pseudo-porn argue that there's nothing wrong with it.

"We did the shoot over 3 1/2 days in Okinawa in November last year. She doesn't need any make-up, so the shoot went really smoothly," an insider involved in the production of the photo collection tells Shukan Post. "We weren't trying to make her look sexy. We just wanted to display her in all the cuteness that's associated with somebody her age."

Nonetheless, Mizuki is made to strike pseudo-erotic poses, such as seductively licking an ice cream, that the men's weekly says are titillating.

And unfortunately, it seems the Under-10 market is viewed as something of potentially stable one.

"At the moment, Japan's pin-up market is polarized, with Aki Hoshino, at 28, representing the oldest segment of the market and the Under-15s at the other end," Masahiro Kitagawa, a self-professed "idol spotter," tells Shukan Post. "The weakening of Japanese men means guys now place a lot of importance on imagining they have control over the opposite sex, which has sparked the emergence of the Under-15 market. The way they've got the girls changing costumes all the time is supposed to be a way to satisfy guys' various fantasies. The polarization of the market is likely to continue, but I don't think it will go any lower than the Under-10s." (By Ryann Connell)

[Klilynkun]

I just had to post again.... that just ain't right

[PopCulturePooka]

If a good number of Japanese women had big boobs, I wouldn't have the horrible problem that I have finding clothes here that fit all three measurements. The ones you know must be a rare breed, Pooka.
I dont mean supremely huge mega jazoongas. But bigger than A or smaller B cups.

[Danistar]

The polarization of the market is likely to continue, but I don't think it will go any lower than the Under-10s." (By Ryann Connell)
How could it? Are they going to start having female fetus posters?

[Klilynkun]

I dont mind supremely huge mega jazoongas. But bigger than A or smaller B cups.

see... right not you getting all technical on me.... a cup? b cup? i don't know how big these things are.... use fruits instead so i can get a better visual picture :D

[PopCulturePooka]

see... right not you getting all technical on me.... a cup? b cup? i don't know how big these things are.... use fruits instead so i can get a better visual picture :D
Someone else can. If you cant get a rough idea at your age its not my job to teach ya.

[Klilynkun]

How could it? Are they going to start having female fetus posters?

Dude... I read in the newspaper the other day that this couple (yes... husband and wife) were arrested for sexually molesting their two year old daughter. Apprently police were tipped off by a baby sitter who found pictures of the couple taking turns on the baby

W......T.......F

[Klilynkun]

Someone else can. If you cant get a rough idea at your age its not my job to teach ya.

I never thought it was appropriate for me to study the sizes of women's breasts when I was younger.

[PopCulturePooka]

I never thought it was appropriate for me to study the sizes of women's breasts when I was younger.
I've always thought its just something most people know or have a rough idea about.

[Klilynkun]

I'm probably one of those sheltered guys

[Danistar]

In his defense, I don't really know the sizes either. I just know it goes in descending alphabetical order with A being smallest.

[PopCulturePooka]

Yeap. .

[MNJetter]

That "underaged porn" WaiWai article that was already in one thread

I thought that it has been made clear in multiple threads that WaiWai has about as much credibility as a news source as The Onion.

[Klilynkun]

That's all I know as well... oh wait... and I can't do that one finger unhook bra thingy

[Klilynkun]

I thought that it has been made clear in multiple threads that WaiWai has about as much credibility as a news source as The Onion.

True... but it does give us stuff to talk about

[kilreli]

i heard that japanese sizes are about 1 size smaller than americas. for example Japan C-cup = American B.
i dont really know
also, they didnt have anything on the internet about that 9 year old :barf:, but heres the other girl
http://beconfused.com/
scroll down to the bottom. man...i swear if i ever have a daughter in japan......i dunno....
why does japan have to come to this?
well i have my opinion, but i dont feel like expressing it right now..

[PopCulturePooka]

I thought that it has been made clear in multiple threads that WaiWai has about as much credibility as a news source as The Onion.
What are you talking about?

[Danistar]

i heard that japanese sizes are about 1 size smaller than americas. for example Japan C-cup = American B.
i dont really know
You "heard" this on Az's article "Operation: Japanese D-Cup" where he said:
(keep in mind that Japanese sizes are one cup below American, so a Japanese B-cup is an A-cup, and a Japanese A-cup means she has the chest of a little boy).

[Klilynkun]

i heard that japanese sizes are about 1 size smaller than americas. for example Japan C-cup = American B.
i dont really know
also, they didnt have anything on the internet about that 9 year old :barf:, but heres the other girl
http://beconfused.com/
scroll down to the bottom. man...i swear if i ever have a daughter in japan......i dunno....
why does japan have to come to this?
well i have my opinion, but i dont feel like expressing it right now..

See... if any of them was from a black family... the mother would literally slap the sh*t out of her and kick the ass of the person taking pictures too

[kilreli]

before i start- i doubt these links are work safe...so uh...dont
clickum at work please..... now lets begin

dear jesus. i swear im not a perv, but i looked into it. the article had the kanji for her name pronounced wrong. its really "Mizuki Furui". type that bad boy into google and see how much you get from it.
http://www.charmkids.net/profile/09furui/index.html
man i swear.....these kids' parents need to have the shit beaten out of them. dont they understand that countless men are getting off to their 9 (she turns ten in a few days, according to her "profile") year old daughter?
Not sexual in any way.....riiight:
http://photo.xuite.net/onigiri/10793/133.jpg
http://photo.xuite.net/onigiri/10793/168.jpg
an 11 year old girl with boobs is causing men all over japan to get hard ons... and through selling "books showing her natural cuteness" (which makes japanese salarymen want to have sex/rape her more), they are making a mountain of money.
lets top if off with: http://www.imouto.tv/
all because the men are being "pushed out of their turf" by women and need to feel like they are still in charge....bastards

well, this is where our world is heading....take a good look....just great...:bang:
when im an old man and this is normal, i dont even wanna think about what the edgy stuff will be then :barf:

now if you'll excuse me, i gotta take a break from the computer. if i see pervertedly disturbing things, i get headaches...:fever:

[wimmpy]

"So-called otaku are caught up in this money making cycle and all they're doing is spending their hard-earned yen (which often comes from their parents in a lot of cases). And, what's really sad, is that loads of these gullible suckers don't even realize that they're being taken for a ride."

That is the qoute that won me over. The otaku tend to think their smarter than the average person, but they don't have a job and still live with their parents and are stupid enough to send money on little plastic figures.

[MNJetter]

What are you talking about?

Post #25 on this thread......there was already a thread about that article.

[Klilynkun]

That is the qoute that won me over. The otaku tend to think their smarter than the average person, but they don't have a job and still live with their parents and are stupid enough to send money on little plastic figures.

If u think about it hard enough... it is much smarter doing that than working, paying bills and buying anime/manga paraphanalia

At home - they pay no bills if they don't want to. Hell.. they probably don't even have to clean up most of the time

No Job - equals you get money from someone else. Meaning you don't spend your own money... but someone elses. And since you're asking most likely parents... there will most likely be and endless supply - especially from mom if your a boy

We are the stupid ones spending money on this stuff when we have better stuff we can be doing with our money since we actually have a life

[PopCulturePooka]

Post #25 on this thread......there was already a thread about that article.
Except... the 11 year old model part at least is true.

[Klilynkun]

The quote from that mangaka could be true as well

[MNJetter]

Except... the 11 year old model part at least is true.

So therefore all of it must be true?

I have no idea, I just know WaiWai's reputation, and I know that the other thread that featured this article said that it was a WaiWai article. I think the other thread got moved to RWPW.

[Klilynkun]

where would a person go to get reliable japanese news in enlish?

[Langosta]

Umm.. how's the Japan Times? It comes out in English, I think tis reliable news...

But anyhow.. what's with those girls, they're 9 years old and already developed. WTF... what happened to when nine year old girls only had the option of buying one pieces and still talked about cooties!?

More over aren't models there to try to sell clothes.. Those don't look like advertisements to me

[grungy hamster]

I don't know, but the lady seems like a bitch and very judgemental. Not all geeks or the Japanese word "otaku" (which just means really interested in a specific subject) have pedophilic tendencies.

[Langosta]

Wasn't it like thirty years ago or something Otaku was a kind of polite word for you? I heard it meant your household or something like that but I can't find any kanji that make sense that way

I liked her little bit about staying locked inside, I'd apply that to everything. Be as weird and creepy as you want but keep it behind closed doors.

[Faumdano]

お宅　（おたく・otaku）

lit: honoured/respected residence/home/house

[clgrnt]

In his defense, I don't really know the sizes either. I just know it goes in descending alphabetical order with A being smallest.

A= quite small, no shape
B= What I like to call the "mouthfull" size, my prefered size actually :box:
C= What is considered by most the most appealing size. Roughly the same volume as a cut in half grapefruit
D= A full on handfull of lumpage

Back on topic, I have no doubt that many of these Otaku are pedophiles. They see all the crap going on in manga and it starts to escalate into a full on fetish. As for those links posted, that's just wrong. That should be considered illegal because they are posted in a sexual way. Sadly the dirtbag's who own those sites are well within the law.

[Tarek]

Since i dont know much about japans culture (or at least this part of it) i would like to ask a few question.

What is an Otaku? After what i heart it is some kind of fan of..something..?
So there are pervs who get a hard one by starring at 15 year old teenagers or even younger "pin-up" girls....but why to these girls "model" in the first way? It is not like Thailand where children get sucked into things like this because of the need of money.

[Josh]

Now I understand what they were doing on Attack of the Show when the guy kept slapping Kevin and shouting "MOE!" when they were playing Russian Roulette... Still isnt funny but eh.

[clgrnt]

Otaku are the nerdy foreigner's obsessed with Anime. Go to the Otaku thread and watch the video and you'll get an idea.

but why to these girls "model" in the first way?

These girls are young so they most likely don't understand what their photos are being used for. It's the parents who allow this to go on for their own personal financial gain that are to blaim.

[sergey500]

Well in my opinion there are levels of Otaku. Three of them:

Level 1: Fan-Otaku.
This type of Otaku simply likes anime, manga, that genre of games and movies. Watches/Reads a quite a few of each, outbalancing other forms of entertainment, but not by much. This otaku is hardly noticeable and usually look like any scrawny kid or what not that may look like a modern school geek in America. This type is perfectly fine. Stays in check with reality. Recovery chances: Over 80%.

Level 2: Obsessed-Otaku
Mid-range Otaku. This is the anime group, he ignores most of his peers except for those that seen up to the latest episode of [Anime name] as soon as it comes out. Watches anime all the time and seen mostly everything. Jacks off to hentai (Sick bastards, I never did get the point of making cartoon porn....why? dear god why?!). Collector of some anime/manga objects. Social level falls into limited time. Day dreams about being an anime hero/villain or some RP in an anime. Chances of recovery: 50% (depending on age).

Level 3: Darth Otaku.
Stereotyping at its worst. A fat grown man, thick glasses, and other retro physical appearances. Completely lucks himself (no 'her', I doubt women can reach this level) in his room and watches anime around the clock. Hardly/Doesn't work, when does immediately wastes all money on collectables such as DVDs, Models, games (all limited editions), posters, cosplay, life size models, Manga (every issue). Has an immense collection of everything that has to do with anime/manga and very rare models, cards, special editions of DVDs and what not. Most likely has Lolita (is that how you spell it?) fetish. Shuns reality as he assumes he is misunderstood and falls into his fantasy world of screwing [insert anime chick]. Knows every single anime, better than Anime News Network or something similar. Complete stereotype of an American nerd/geek/spaz. Recovery chances: None.


:bored: How bored can I get to write that?

So Anime is evil? It brainwashes people to...OMG BLEACH IS ON! (lol).

[PopCulturePooka]

So therefore all of it must be true?

I have no idea, I just know WaiWai's reputation, and I know that the other thread that featured this article said that it was a WaiWai article. I think the other thread got moved to RWPW.
Wai wai is usually trash, granted. It does however merely reword articles printed in other magazines. Its not 100% untruth, just 75% so.

[Scott Vincent]

So Anime is evil? It brainwashes people to...OMG BLEACH IS ON! (lol).

I wouldn't say it's evil, it's just that many hardcore otakus just take their damn hobby too far.

Otaku doesn't just mean anime or idol fanatic (The idol fanatics are usually called wota by the way.), there are also Computer Otaku, Game Otaku, Sport Otaku, Car Otaku, Outpost Nine Otaku, etc. It's just someone who really likes their hobby.

[SDSUMarcus01]

If you've ever been to a morning musume fan board you'll see lots of the pedo type otaku. It scares me that they've got every CD, photobook, and picture of these girls... when they're older than I am by a few years and they're looking at the really young ones... and they talk like they actually know the girls.

I'm an otaku in the more "traditional" sense... that is, I never go out anymore. But that's more because I hate people and that fact that gas is expensive than anything.

[Scott Vincent]

If you've ever been to a morning musume fan board you'll see lots of the pedo type otaku. It scares me that they've got every CD, photobook, and picture of these girls... when they're older than I am by a few years and they're looking at the really young ones... and they talk like they actually know the girls.

I'm an otaku in the more "traditional" sense... that is, I never go out anymore. But that's more because I hate people and that fact that gas is expensive than anything.

That reminds me of "some guy" on some Momusu board who had an obsession with Reina Tanaka. This "some guy" was actually around the same age as Reina but the way he talked about her and being with her was a bit...:boggled: I can't imagine what he would say if he saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4o8EIWRQzU)

I like Eri Kamei, but in a "Say, this girl is pretty cool and funny!" way instead of a "I LOVE HER WITH ALL MY HEART! ONE DAY YOU WILL SEE US TOGETHER!!! *orders a ticket for Japan**" way. Of course I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't consider hooking up with her if I had a chance. But If I don't, unlike the rest of the wotas it wouldn't be the end of the world for me. *remembers the Mari Yaguchi incident last year *:eyepop: *

I don't consider myself as an Otaku because I have a life outside my home, nor am I obessed with Momusu.

[Eddie Echoplex]

I guess, seeing all this and the other otaku thread, I'm an average kinda guy, or the way I'd like to say it... The Evolved Geek.

I used to be this nuts for anime, but I guess that kinda died out when I started hanging out. Most of the girls I knew that were also otaku tried to "save me", but I guess it didn't work out in the end.

[Langosta]

I wanna know why we only get these kind of guys for super heroes and japanese cartoons in the US.. I want to see south park ota or

OMG! Looney Tunes otaku

Yeah now those guys would cool (probably not)

[Eddie Echoplex]

I wanna know why we only get these kind of guys for super heroes and japanese cartoons in the US.. I want to see south park ota or

OMG! Looney Tunes otaku

Yeah now those guys would cool (probably not)

South Park "Otakus" are also known as frat guys... As far as I know :gwitch: .

[Langosta]

Yeah I guess somebody has to have a towel with a joint taped to it ^^

[Scott Vincent]

I wanna know why we only get these kind of guys for super heroes and japanese cartoons in the US.. I want to see south park ota or

OMG! Looney Tunes otaku

Yeah now those guys would cool (probably not)

You can find an otaku for anything.

Baseball (Chicago Cubs to be exact) Otaku (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4533517506002364021&q=astros+cubs)

Wrestling Otaku (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6318381037414435530&q=wrestling+fan)

[MNJetter]

Otaku might just mean fan in America, but in Japan it still has a decidedly unheathy undertone. Like not just fan.
Here's the analogy as I see it.

Fan is to Otaku as Boyfriend is to Psycho Stalker

They've got words for "fan" and "afficionado" and so forth in Japanese. Otaku is where it crosses over into an unhealthy obsession.

[kilreli]

I can't imagine what he would say if he saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4o8EIWRQzU).
oh my goodness...his face was priceless! :rofl:

Also the "does this mean he would be sleeping next to you?" *pressing button about every second*
she says, "thats right!"
them "how old are you?!!" *Beeping increase x 50*
funny stuff :rofl:

[MNJetter]

Anybody who thinks Japanese girls don't talk with high voices should listen to that video clip. I think that girl who was disagreeing with Reina broke my ears. :P

[Eddie Echoplex]

Anybody who thinks Japanese girls don't talk with high voices should listen to that video clip. I think that girl who was disagreeing with Reina broke my ears. :P

:eyepop: ...:bang:

Damn it! And here I thought the "high pitched voice" thing was a god-awful myth made by anime! :box: .

[aseriana]

My fiance and I have decided that 90% of Japanese men are pedophiles, and he argues that Japanophiles are pedophiles too. :watson:

The kiddie porn (whether or not they'll admit thats what it is or not) disturbs me so much, but to ad to that- even the women are expected to look and act like children (or act dumb, in other words). It drives me crazy to see a full grown woman being admired for acting like she's a 10 year old- and shunned for acting her age.

Not that America seems to much better actually- here they want women to look like women, but act like morons. :bored:

[Pierrot le Fou]

The women in said article is basically saying that the word 'otaku' in Japan, which previously had quite negative connotations, is becoming more like the word 'otaku' in anime communities in that some people wear it as a badge of pride as far as being socially inept is concerned.

[Badfish]

My fiance and I have decided that 90% of Japanese men are pedophiles, and he argues that Japanophiles are pedophiles too. :watson:

The kiddie porn (whether or not they'll admit thats what it is or not) disturbs me so much, but to ad to that- even the women are expected to look and act like children (or act dumb, in other words). It drives me crazy to see a full grown woman being admired for acting like she's a 10 year old- and shunned for acting her age.

Not that America seems to much better actually- here they want women to look like women, but act like morons. :bored:

I hate those girl in Japan, the ones that act like their innocent adolescent girls. With that artificially high voice too... ugh. I don't find it cute at all.

I hate ditzy girls in America too, they aren't any better. Well, actually, hitting up a ditzy girl at least doesn't make me feel like I'm trying to get with a 12 year old.

[The_Penguin]

scroll down to the bottom. man...i swear if i ever have a daughter in japan......i dunno....
I'd be one of those crazy motherfucker Americans running around the studio with this (http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles_99.htm) gun and taking people out. I would be just a tad upset if that was my kid.

[Aras]

Oh my god, that gun is so sweet, i want one.
You could call me otaku, i watch anime, read manga, don't play games(old pc and i don't like japanese games, because i mostly play rts), but i find it strange, how some internatioal organization didn't done anything about this whats happening in japan, if this stuff been done in some other countries, usa, europe etc. you would go to jail and for a long time and think its right.
How i know otakus in japan were people (mostly man) who didn't fit in the japanese strict society and shut them up in this anime world, because they could fit in real, but now it become big biznes and companies try to profit from it, also i find that media holds a lot responsability for that whats goin on, if media shows only underage girls its obvious that man will like them, media forms the standarts now.
sorry for bad english.

[Citizen]

'Otaku' is an insult in any country. Which makes the fact that legions of morons enjoy being called 'otakus' all the funnier.

[Klilynkun]

not in england its not... as most ppl don't know what it is...hell...most ppl can't even pronounce the word properly....

i'm not an otaku anymore...i can't afford to be one

[Yang]

"Otaku" here is a word used to call those anime maniatic lovers...i like to call them "anime nerds" because they don't talk about anything else than "OOOOHHH MEEENN!!!! did you see the last ep of Naruto and stuff?!?!?!"....and nothing else exists for them than anime series...the word is applied mainly to some young boys and girls who like japanese animated series with school bags full of badges....but also to some older guys, and i mean older....

But, as i am into the illustratration world, sometimes i saw maniac 35 and 40 y/o old and fat guys (hey! they look older i mean it!) who are real otakus who ask me to draw their creature "of their dreams" naked (yes hentai, i don't do that stuff anymore) obviously they paid me a good money ....and it's creepy,

i specially remember, at some anime convention (i was part of the staff and in charge of the video game tournament), one guy(he was probably 30-35 y/o) and ask me to draw the girl from that karekano (naked) anime and when i finished the sketch, he started to cry,, and started to comment all the life of that char, how old it was, and he knew even its bday and gave me a speech like a speech president about the fuckn char, damn! and me playing mr nice guy "o...k.....su..re..." and thanked me and...argh! dare to say, gave me a powerful hug....and open a folder into his school bag (full of badges) and got it into with a thousand other hentai illustrations....that was the sickiest thing....

frankly, i was into anime ONCE in my life, the truth is, it helped me a lot because it gave me inspiration and references to become what i am today, an almost profesional illustrator, thanks of anime ( part of) was a good influence in my case....but i never was an otaku....for sure....i could never been an otaku....it's kinda sad obsession....

[Duke Luke of Juke]

You can find an otaku for anything.

Baseball (Chicago Cubs to be exact) Otaku (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4533517506002364021&q=astros+cubs)

Wrestling Otaku (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6318381037414435530&q=wrestling+fan)
omfg. Those two videos were classic, thank you sir. XD
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I don't see otakus as creepy so much as I see them as sad. It's unfortunate that they can't have found something they loved that involves being social, and helps them contribute to society--as opposed to shutting themselves up in their rooms, and masturbating to old episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion.

[crow-kun]

I just can't get over the fact that pedophile is written in the articles yet the OP still manages to spell it wrong.

[Faumdano]

No, it is spelled correctly with its original spelling. All you're showing is that you don't read much :stirthepo

[crow-kun]

No, it is spelled correctly with its original spelling. All you're showing is that you don't read much :stirthepo
I'm sorry but if paedophile is not in the english dictionary then its spelled wrong.

[Langosta]

Isn't it a greek word?

I think that spellings okay. Like theatre and theater, I think the first one is French (maybe) but you see both in English.

[Scott Vincent]

So, about a week ago I saw a guy wear a shirt that said オタク. Today, I saw another guy with a shirt that has "WILL WORK FOR ANIME" written on the front, and had おたく written on the back. It was written in tape by the way.


:boggled: IT'S SPREADING GUYS!!!!

[Faumdano]

I'm sorry but if paedophile is not in the english dictionary then its spelled wrong.

Is it an odd spelling nowadays? Yes, nevertheless, a word it is.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=paedophile

[crow-kun]

Is it an odd spelling nowadays? Yes, nevertheless, a word it is.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=paedophile
To hell with dictionary.com. I know that there are words that begin with paed- or peado- that are related to young children but I have never seen the word paedophile.

[Crowley]

That's because you live in America. You miss out the U in colour too.

[Quatrina]

Today, I saw another guy with a shirt that has "WILL WORK FOR ANIME" written on the front, and had ??? written on the back. It was written in tape by the way.


:boggled: IT'S SPREADING GUYS!!!!

Oh, my gosh. I saw the exact same thing at my school a few months ago. Do people make those shirts at home or something?

[Eddie Echoplex]

Oh, my gosh. I saw the exact same thing at my school a few months ago. Do people make those shirts at home or something?

Yes, yes they do. I've seen them. It's like watching a work factory, except with more giggling and more freaky cat-girls.

[Steve]

Like theatre and theater...you see both in English.

Really? I've never seen "theater".

[羽之助]

Which dictionary are people using? Oxford, the true, accurate lexicon of definitions and spelling, or that crank Webster's?

[Crowley]

sigh.

BECAUSE YOU'RE IN AUSTRALIA YOU ARSESNIFFER.

[Steve]

sigh.

BECAUSE YOU'RE IN AUSTRALIA YOU ARSESNIFFER.

I was always under the impression that "Aussie English" was the same as "England English".

:gloomy: Can't believe Arsenal lost. :(

[Crowley]

Yea, but you have to remember when these yankie doodle dandies say "english", they don't mean actual english, they mean their bastardisation of the proper way of spelling ;)

[Steve]

Yea, but you have to remember when these yankie doodle dandies say "english", they don't mean actual english, they mean their bastardisation of the proper way of spelling ;)

Ah, like when Word says I'm making a spelling mistake because I'm not spelling something with a "Z". e.g. bastardisation as opposed to bastardiZation. :P

[Crowley]

Thats rite!

[Pierrot le Fou]

Funny that American English is supposedly closer to what English actually used to sound like than what it does now in Britain or Australia (or other commonwealth countries). And if you really want to return to spelling 'correctly' why don't you just go back to Chaucer... 'Whan that Aprille with his shoure soute...'

[Crowley]

Here's a question. Comparatively, the time between Chaucer and Shakespeare is tiny, yet the language in them is dramatically different - what brought about this dramatic restructuring of the language in such a relatively short time?

[kilreli]

maybe off subject from where this thread is now, but back on the second and/or third page we were talking about those little kids posing for magazines...
Well, today is Friday. a very good day, cause FRIDAY magazine coems out. you know...the mag with FRI and a girl on it. so i was looking through it after i got back to my home station, and guess what i saw. they had a few pages of that 11 year old girl's pictures. I almost died...:bang:
Luckily, i was saved by quickly turning the page and seeing Hoshino Aki's bust taking up most of the space. Saved....:joytear:

[pockymon]

"Real otaku should go back and shut yourselves off from the world again. The true value of being a real otaku lay in the belief that nobody else understands you."
:rofl: Gold.

Typical rant of someone whose prized fandom is suddenly invaded by the mainstream.
Pinpon!

[stsparky]

Here's a question. Comparatively, the time between Chaucer and Shakespeare is tiny, yet the language in them is dramatically different - what brought about this dramatic restructuring of the language in such a relatively short time?

Anger at the continent and the new interest in theatre. Maybe it more Marlowe than Shakespeare, where the change is evident.