Japan: Hard to please?

[4letterwords]

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/face/archive/news/2007/20070611p2g00m0dm009000c.html


Punters snub Miss Universe for lacking Japanese 'cuteness'
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/face/archive/news/2007/images/20070611p2g00m0dm007000p_size6.jpg
Riyo Mori: Beautiful, but is she cute?

Japan has its own Miss Universe for the first time in almost half a century, but the average Japanese salaryman is hardly pleased as the winner doesn't look "Japanese" enough, according to Shukan Bunshun (6/14).
Riyo Mori, Japan's new Miss Universe, is certainly well-proportioned courtesy of practicing dance since the age of 4, but the 20-year-old has hardly tickled the fancy of the demographic most expected to be excited by her title win."One sports newspaper even ran of photo of the Thai representative in the belief that it was Mori," a sports newspaper editor tells Shukan Bunshun.
Gruff old salarymen are also annoyed that Mori chose to wear a geisha's garb for the National Costume part of the beauty contest, believing it was too much like "Hollywood glitz."
The weekly says Japan's new tack in approaching Miss Universe can be laid at the feet of Frenchwoman Ines Ligron. Ligron, the overall producer of Miss Universe Japan since 1998, was brought here under the direction of U.S. tycoon Donald Trump, a co-owner of the Miss Universe pageant, and changed the way Japanese were taking part in the contest.
"Ines has no regard at all for cuteness. She respects traditional Japanese values of humility, earnestness and proper manners, but says taking them on to the world will only leave you crushed," a Miss Universe Japan spokesman tells Shukan Bunshun. "Rather than these values, she encourages contestants to be independent, set goals, be intelligent and emphasize their strengths. Rather than pale-looking women, she wants women to be mature, glamorous and healthy looking. Japanese wouldn't think of beauties along these lines."
Kiko Matsuyama, a finalist in the 2007 Miss Universe Japan contest, said that Ligron is a hard taskmaster.

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/face/archive/news/2007/images/20070611p2g00m0dm008000p_size6.jpg

"My skin is really white, but she said that in the spotlights on stage I'd look deathly pale, so told me to go and get a tan," the beauty queen says.
Miss Japan 2004 Eri Machimoto also spoke of how Ligron improves the quality of Japanese contestants.
"One day while I was wearing monotone clothes, she shouted at me, saying that I was still young and should be wearing more colorful fashions," Machimoto says. "And she was always on to us about how we need to read the papers to find out what's going on."
Don Konishi, a judge on the 2006 Miss Japan Contest, is also a Ligron fan.
"Models popular in Japan now, like Yuri Ebihara and Moe Oshikiri, just haven't got what it takes to make it on the global stage," he says. "Frankly, I think women who look like little more than nightclub hostesses are more of an embarrassment to Japan than anything else."
Ligron knows what she's looking for and her results speak for her achievements -- three top five finishes, including Mori's win and Kurara Chibana finishing runner-up last year.
"In Japan, there's still too much of the idea of punishing those who stand out," Ligron tells Shukan Bunshun. "Don't think the same things as everybody else and show more of your own personality. Don't just copy the fashions of popular idols. It's important to take care of your own personality." (By Ryann Connell)

June 11, 2007

[Lea]

Interesting... Her quotes at first made me think she was pressured into fitting western standards of beauty. But then she says Japan is not accepting enough. Meh.

[Daishikaze]

Thats funny because so many people thought that everyone was going to be like "See? Japanese Women are the most beautiful in the world!". But no, "She's not cute and insignificant enough"

[erbiumfiber]

Umm, that's the first time I saw her because other times she's been filtered out (work and no home Internet right now). I have to say, my first impression was that she is half-Japanese (which is OK). But then I found a website where I could see a little more. Damn! She can barely move her eyelids she's got so much eye makeup on. I guess to make them look "rounder?" (because they do due to the makeup). Guess she's not that proud of her heritage.

Anyway, I thought last year's runner-up to Miss Universe was a lot better looking (and more "Japanese-looking" whatever that means...).

[ミュー]

I thought I was the only one. I mean, she looks like 'just another Asian combination'... I am not seeing JAPANESE GIRL when I look at her picture. There's cuter girls walking about in Tokyo, she is no specialty and surely not a 'world-class' beauty. I mean, of course being Miss Universe she's beautiful... but she is not the #1 that the title should imply.

[4letterwords]

They say it like the 'cuteness' is something that comes naturally to the Japanese. The cuteness factor is just as fake as her pretending to look 'westernized'. So if her 'not looking Japanese enough' really means that she's not pretending to be cute and naive enough, then more power to her.

[xinster]

fuck haters

[Digital Masta]

Being Japan I can't help but think cute for them is that whole looking young and innocent so they can grope them on trains look.

[4letterwords]

Bingo.

[Stephy]

They say it like the 'cuteness' is something that comes naturally to the Japanese. The cuteness factor is just as fake as her pretending to look 'westernized'. So if her 'not looking Japanese enough' really means that she's not pretending to be cute and naive enough, then more power to her.
Agreed.



They seem a bit harsh toward her.

[manrush]

She's only half-japanese!!! Gasp!!! :eek: :rofl:

There could be a bit of prejudice in the response by most Salary men (i.e. she's not pure, 100% Japanese)

[Hatsumomo]

"Ines has no regard at all for cuteness. She respects traditional Japanese values of humility, earnestness and proper manners, but says taking them on to the world will only leave you crushed," a Miss Universe Japan spokesman tells Shukan Bunshun. "Rather than these values, she encourages contestants to be independent, set goals, be intelligent and emphasize their strengths. Rather than pale-looking women, she wants women to be mature, glamorous and healthy looking. Japanese wouldn't think of beauties along these lines."

This...doesn't sound right to me. Are they criticizing Ines not making her clients submissive and more concerned about coming across as cute little girls rather than grown women responsible for their own lives? Or is this particular comment supporting Ines? I'm a little confused here.

[4letterwords]

It's clear: They want their women to be naive, tacky, and sickly looking... ?

[Knife-Fingered Sue Sanderson]

I remember the first thing my dad said when he saw her on TV: She doesn't look Japanese at all.
And if you look at all the other contestants who went far into it, they all had very Western features - noses, jaws, hair, skin, etc.
Either way, her style and her looks are being judged by somebody for not being x-enough, whether that's Western or cute. Just because she's not falling for the submissive cuteness, doesn't mean she's not falling into the submissive "I must look Western to succeed" trap, either.

[mawande]

Consider the source of this article. And I don't mean the original poster.

[4letterwords]

True... waiwai is known to... well, you know... but this one isn't hard to believe at all.

[erbiumfiber]

I remember the first thing my dad said when he saw her on TV: She doesn't look Japanese at all.
And if you look at all the other contestants who went far into it, they all had very Western features - noses, jaws, hair, skin, etc.
Either way, her style and her looks are being judged by somebody for not being x-enough, whether that's Western or cute. Just because she's not falling for the submissive cuteness, doesn't mean she's not falling into the submissive "I must look Western to succeed" trap, either.

Quoted for extreme truth. All the finalists (I got to see them on the NBC site that wasn't filtered by my work software) looked pretty Westernized, even the Korean girl. I'm not saying you have to be cute and submissive to be Japanese but, damn, you don't need 5 pounds of eye makeup trying to make your eyes look bigger and rounder and more Western either. But then, we're talking about a pageant owned, at least in part, by DONALD TRUMP. So, uh...yeah.

[Kyletherealninja]

God, this is stupid. "Hey, you don't look western enough, so let's tan you up, slap on some eye makeup over your already rounded-through-surgery eyes, and make you look nice and accessible for the home audience." What a load of crap. Why can't people just be themselves? If you have pale skin, don't be ashamed of it - I have much lighter than average skin than most white guys but I'm proud of it because it makes me look different from the rest of the crowd. "Cuteness" is totally subjective, but just because you think someone looks "cute" doesn't make you a pedophile, and considering that this is associated with Japanese girls in general I don't get why they're so encouraged to refrain from it. What stupidity.

I would never look at Miss Universe Japan and guess she was Japanese if I didn't know it already - I would probably guess that she was Hawaiian. My biggest beef with the whole Miss Universe thing is that everyone tries to look the same instead of being themselves and representing their home country. Yeah, so most of them have gigantic breasts. Big freakin' deal.

It also strikes me as utterly inane that a non-Japanese person is running the whole thing for Japan. Why on earth should she be controlling the whole thing?

Of course, I'm fully aware that there are plenty of Japanese girls who dye their hair blonde and coat themselves in a protective shield of makeup. I'm hardly so naive as to suggest that every girl in Japan is a bubbly cute little angel, but my point still stands. The management of the whole thing is just atrocious.

[Roxie]

fuck haters
I concur.

[4letterwords]

God, this is stupid. "Hey, you don't look western enough, so let's tan you up, slap on some eye makeup over your already rounded-through-surgery eyes, and make you look nice and accessible for the home audience." What a load of crap. Why can't people just be themselves? If you have pale skin, don't be ashamed of it - I have much lighter than average skin than most white guys but I'm proud of it because it makes me look different from the rest of the crowd. "Cuteness" is totally subjective, but just because you think someone looks "cute" doesn't make you a pedophile, and considering that this is associated with Japanese girls in general I don't get why they're so encouraged to refrain from it. What stupidity.

I would never look at Miss Universe Japan and guess she was Japanese if I didn't know it already - I would probably guess that she was Hawaiian. My biggest beef with the whole Miss Universe thing is that everyone tries to look the same instead of being themselves and representing their home country. Yeah, so most of them have gigantic breasts. Big freakin' deal.

It also strikes me as utterly inane that a non-Japanese person is running the whole thing for Japan. Why on earth should she be controlling the whole thing?

Of course, I'm fully aware that there are plenty of Japanese girls who dye their hair blonde and coat themselves in a protective shield of makeup. I'm hardly so naive as to suggest that every girl in Japan is a bubbly cute little angel, but my point still stands. The management of the whole thing is just atrocious.
It's just as demeaning to have your looks adjusted to fit into the 'cute Japanese girl' category as the westernized one. The reason that we DON'T think she looks Japanese is because the image of the average Japanese woman is so contorted into this image of cutsie wootsie that women who DON'T fit into this category are considered not Japanese enough. Sure, Mori changed her looks to conform to the expectations of the show, but Japanese women don't naturally come out as Riyo Mori's or Ai Otsuka's. They're formed that way by the expectations of the environment they're in.

My whole point was that, the 'salarymen' who said she doesn't look Japanese enough, are being hypocritical, because the 'cuteness' that they so strongly connect with their women, is no more real than Mori getting a tan and fucking with her eyes.

[ミュー]

Quoted for extreme truth. All the finalists (I got to see them on the NBC site that wasn't filtered by my work software) looked pretty Westernized, even the Korean girl. I'm not saying you have to be cute and submissive to be Japanese but, damn, you don't need 5 pounds of eye makeup trying to make your eyes look bigger and rounder and more Western either. But then, we're talking about a pageant owned, at least in part, by DONALD TRUMP. So, uh...yeah.

The Donald... the last person on Earth I could imagine judging anything beautiful. I mean, the dude has a world-famous bad combover and gaudy, distasteful tower buildings all over New York City. I don't know if he's an actual judge, but a guy with that kind of ego has got to be pulling the strings.

[Eddie Echoplex]

Personally, I don't really care about Miss Universe. To me there's more important things to watch on TV (Rome, for example).

But I did saw this thing because it was in Mexico (I wanted to see how bad we can look on global television, unfortunately I knew shit like the one some people threw at Miss USA was going to happen), and personally I found Miss Japan to be stunning, really.

The thing that kinda pisses me off a little is that the modern japanese culture tends toward "We are the Wall" kind of thinking, which in my way of seeing things is just begging to be destroyed.

So those are my two cents right there.

[Roxie]

Rome is the shit. Too bad it's over.

[羽之助]

It also strikes me as utterly inane that a non-Japanese person is running the whole thing for Japan. Why on earth should she be controlling the whole thing?

Doesn't Japan only use non-Japanese coaches for their World Cup team?

[Civilization Phrase III]

Rather than pale-looking women, she wants women to be mature, glamorous and healthy looking. Japanese wouldn't think of beauties along these lines.

Yeah, I always like the pale ones myself.

[mawande]

According to an article in a real newspaper that I read today, they had her tan because, in the bright lights on the stage, she would have looked like a ghost. It also commented that, too often, when they bring in Japanese girls to compete, the girls are so nervous being surrounded by all these gorgeous foreigners that they fall to pieces.

And, despite searching, not one Japanese person who actually bought a sheep believing it to be a poodle was found.

[4letterwords]

And, despite searching, not one Japanese person who actually bought a sheep believing it to be a poodle was found.

Psh, yeah, I'm sure they checked EVERYONE. Pfft.

[stsparky]

Japan's new Miss Universe says she has 'samurai soul' (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20070612p2a00m0na001000c.html)
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/images/20070612p2a00m0na002000p_size6.jpg Miss Universe 2007 Riyo Mori of Japan gestures during an interview with The Associated Press at a Tokyo hotel Monday. (AP Photo)


Less than a month after being crowned Japan's first Miss Universe in nearly half a century, Riyo Mori is hoping to land another job -- with the popular TV show "Heroes" in the United States.


Back In her home country after winning the Miss Universe 2007 contest in Mexico City last month, Mori said she has been swamped by cameras and has been doing interviews and appearances "nonstop."


But Japan's newest star said she won't be able to savor her homecoming for long. She will soon be hitting the road again with her US$250,000 pearl-and-diamond studded crown.


"I'm only here for a week, then it's back to New York" and a tour around the world, the 20-year-old dancer said in an interview Monday. "It's funny because I've never been surrounded by so many people, so many cameras. Japanese people never cared about beauty pageants before. But this is a huge thing in Japan now."


Mori said she is hoping to devote herself to her new role -- which includes acting as a spokeswoman for AIDS issues -- and is also looking for a possible role on the TV series "Heroes," broadcast by NBC, which has rights to the Miss Universe pageant.


"As soon as I won Miss Universe I had this big chance," she said. "I've never acted before. I went to the casting audition and read a script in English and Japanese, and they said it was really good. So I hope I can be in the show."


Mori said her role would be "Yaeko," a love interest for one of the main characters.


Mori's crowning caught Japan by surprise.


The only other time Japan has won the pageant was in 1959, when Akiko Kojima became the first Miss Universe from Asia.


Since then, several women from the region have worn the crown. Japan was runner-up last year, when Kurara Chibana narrowly missed top honors. Miss USA, Rachel Smith, slipped and fell to the floor during the evening gown competition and was this year's fourth runner-up.


Mori, who has been dancing since she was four, said she was encouraged to enter the competition by her grandmother. After seeing Chibana nearly win, she was hooked.


"I thought I needed something for my life, something different," she said. "Miss Universe isn't all about beauty. It's about serving people, too."


Though she avoided the fate of Miss America and managed to stay on her feet throughout the competition, Mori said she did almost drop her crown.

"It's very heavy," she said. "I almost dropped it, but I caught it. It's huge and it's beautiful."


Mori, who lived in Canada for three years and studied classical ballet, said her goal after finishing her year as Miss Universe is to open a dance school. Her mother was also a dancer.


She said the long years she spent training in dance helped build her character, and that appealed to the judges.


"I think I have a samurai soul," she said. "I'm very patient, and I can serve others." (AP)


Japan's Miss Universe captures top spot in entertainment news (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/news/20070602p2a00m0et009000c.html)
Punters snub Miss Universe for lacking Japanese 'cuteness' (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/face/news/20070611p2g00m0dm009000c.html)
Miss Universe 2007 Photo Galleries (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/070529miss/1.html)
Miss Universe Fashion Show Photo Galleries (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/070521universe/1.html)
'Countdown to Miss Universe 2007' Photo Galleries (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/photospecials/graph/070511miss/1.html)

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And wouldn't a sheep make a better pet? Easier to feed - and you can shear it for wool in the summer. Poodles are vicious beasties in whatever size they come.

[Digital Masta]

For the love of god if this woman can't act don't put her on Heroes. Hmmmm I wonder which character she'd be the love interest for...hmmmmmm

[Kal]

Probably Hiro. I'm guessing Yaeko would be someone in the time they left us with at the end of S1.

On topic though; I've seen tons of better looking Asian chicks than Miss Japan; how the fuck she won is baffling.

[Digital Masta]

Probably Hiro. I'm guessing Yaeko would be someone in the time they left us with at the end of S1.



Yeah I know...I was being sarcastic.

Hard to tell on the internets I know.

[geesehoward4life]

I think if the Japanese want to showcase their ideal beauty they should, then they will find out one way or another what an international audience thinks of Japanese taste and expectations in women. To me, that is the easiest way to settle the whole thing. Maybe they should send Aya Ueto and see how she holds up, since she's plastered all over the place.

[xinster]

I think if the Japanese want to showcase their ideal beauty they should, then they will find out one way or another what an international audience thinks of Japanese taste and expectations in women. To me, that is the easiest way to settle the whole thing. Maybe they should send Aya Ueto and see how she holds up, since she's plastered all over the place.

GEESE... :mad:

[ミュー]

*ding ding*
In the right corner, Aya Ueto (http://images.google.com/images?num=50&hl=en&q=Aya%20Ueto)
And, in the left corner, Riyo Mori (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&tab=wi&hl=en&q=Riyo%20Mori)

[Digital Masta]

*ding ding*
In the right corner, Aya Ueto (http://images.google.com/images?num=50&hl=en&q=Aya%20Ueto)



One day....her and I shall...OH YES!

[ミュー]

One day....her and I shall...OH YES!
I just realized that she was the lead in Attention Please... she can induct me into the Mile High club aaanytime!!

[mikem]

*ding ding*
In the right corner, Aya Ueto (http://images.google.com/images?num=50&hl=en&q=Aya%20Ueto)

I am overcome with the need to say ...

あやちゃんが超かわいいぃ～☆

Sorry about that.

[geesehoward4life]

TERRY!!!! :karate:

I mean XINSTER!?!? :box: Did I say something wrong, I'm not exactly a consistant poster here, more like a lurker. I think I spelled consistant wrong, sorry, it's early am here. :watson: I should probably use constant, then I won't make spelling errors. :dj:

I mean Aya is EVERYWHERE! Her recent drama has been getting pretty bad ratings and Pineapple Soda, a woman from another forum I'm from, thinks she's a shell of a woman with no talent whatsoever. :gangster:

But Aya is, Lovely Warrior Robot Ueto Aya! :clap:
She doesn't need talent, she has cute, thus she can rule the Japanese World, even if it is a tenative rule. Or was that Tarantino talking about O-Ren? Anyway, I understand that she has her own Cafe's or something like that and? Are they HER cafe's or Oscar Agency's cafe's? :bored:

Mikem, I cannot read that. I will say that I am almost done the entire Basic audio CD's for Japanese by Pimsleur. I can actually understand bits and pieces of spoken Japanese and can hold a basic verbal conversation now. I recently bought; A Guide to Writing Kanji and Kana Book 1, by Hadamitzky and Spahn. It's from 91, but I think it's still good enough to help me get what I need done.

I just feel as though if they want something done right, then they should do it themselves. Send who they consider attractive, and I'm well aware Japanese women with pale skin is attractive in Japan. So simply find the best looking woman that embodies what they consider attractive and then see how she does in the pagent. At this time, the only woman that I know that can seemingly do no wrong and embodies CUTE, except with her latest drama, is Aya. She's everywhere, so, she should be in the pagent next year.:innocent:

I would like to see Chiaki in the pagent, but :gloomy: , I am well aware that with her looks, she's not a Japanese beauty. Which... is good, as bizarre as that sounds. Oh, and someone should stress if they cannot strong-arm Aya with some sort of nationalist-contractual-good for your career, do it because we know best, line. Please remind them that the woman they send in her place? Will be carded and her age verified, so it wouldn't be a wise idea to try to push an underage entry, no matter how much they are unable to resist her youthful vitality and cutie-cute-ness of cute cause she's so cute! :cop:

[xinster]

:watson: :gwitch:

[PopCulturePooka]

Psh, yeah, I'm sure they checked EVERYONE. Pfft.
They won't find one.

The story was a HOAX!

[erbiumfiber]

[QUOTE=stsparky]Japan's new Miss Universe says she has 'samurai soul' (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20070612p2a00m0na001000c.html)
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/images/20070612p2a00m0na002000p_size6.jpg Miss Universe 2007 Riyo Mori of Japan gestures during an interview with The Associated Press at a Tokyo hotel Monday. (AP Photo)


Well at least she has removed a kilogram or two of eye make-up and actually looks Asian in this picture. However, the dress subtracts about 40 IQ points so I'm not sure how credible of a spokesperson she is going to be, dressing like that.

[hanacker]

No offense to anyone who knows somebody with it, but "Yaeko" is a pretty awful-sounding name.

[4letterwords]

[quote=stsparky]Japan's new Miss Universe says she has 'samurai soul' (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20070612p2a00m0na001000c.html)
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/images/20070612p2a00m0na002000p_size6.jpg Miss Universe 2007 Riyo Mori of Japan gestures during an interview with The Associated Press at a Tokyo hotel Monday. (AP Photo)


Well at least she has removed a kilogram or two of eye make-up and actually looks Asian in this picture. However, the dress subtracts about 40 IQ points so I'm not sure how credible of a spokesperson she is going to be, dressing like that.

That's a really nice dress actually. Spokesperson material, no, but still a nice dress.

[羽之助]

No offense to anyone who knows somebody with it, but "Yaeko" is a pretty awful-sounding name.

I'm sure there are plenty of English names that sound idiotic in other languages.

[hanacker]

There are plenty of English names that sound awful in English. I hate pretty much the entire list of the top ten U.S. baby names for 2006, for example (Emily, Emma, Madison, Isabella, Ava, Abigail, Olivia, Hannah, Sophia, and Samantha). Although I guess, "Would I still hate the name 'Yaeko' if I were a native Japanese speaker?" is a mildly interesting question.

Maybe I'm just a name snob. I love "Yuki" and "Yuka" but hate "Yuko" and "Yoko".

And even more completely off-topic, it's odd how unusual the girls' names in the top 10 are and how plain the guys' names are. I could go all pop-pscychology on that, but I think that's a topic for another thread. http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/babynames/

[mikem]

No offense to anyone who knows somebody with it, but "Yaeko" is a pretty awful-sounding name.

I don't really have an opinion on her full name, but any girl I can call ya-chan is near and dear to my heart.

[MNJetter]

It's all in the eye of the beholder. I like Emily and Sophia, and Olivia and Hannah are on my top list of names I'd want my kids to have someday. And I think Yaeko is cute if you pronounce it the way it's supposed to be pronounced in Japanese....though that might be because the name reminds me of Echo, who stars in my favorite Greek myth.

[羽之助]

I hate that myth. It's so sad, and Narcissus was an idiot.

I forgot about the way people not exposed to Japanese would read the names. I guess Yaeko would be read as Yay-ko, not Ya-Ehh-Ko, huh. Just like Junko - it can mean lots of nice things in Japanese (pure child, etc), and is pronounced a bit like June-ko, but in English it just becomes a synonym for "trash".

[japanat]

Let's see - romaji pronunciations...

Scott becomes skirt
John becomes Joan (ouch!)

more?

And what's with the Samurai Soul? She has a bad temper and likes to lop people's heads off for little or no reason? If she lost, she would have seppiku'ed to remove the shame? :boggled:

[Masa the Masta]

Even if she isn't the hottest Japanese girl ever, I'd still let this pretty-'lil-similarly-aged Samurai girl serve me all she wants.

I ain't picky, shit. She's also a dancer, I think that's a plus for me, being a dancer as well and all that.

[Digital Masta]

Even if she isn't the hottest Japanese girl ever, I'd still let this pretty-'lil-similarly-aged Samurai girl serve me all she wants.

I ain't picky, shit. She's also a dancer, I think that's a plus for me, being a dancer as well and all that.

I like women dancers for 2 reasons:

1) The tend to be in fantastic shape

2)Flexible

[Masa the Masta]

Do you mean their 'working' schedule or muscle wise? :)

Again, I ain't picky whichever way flexible works as long as it does.

[Digital Masta]

Do you mean their 'working' schedule or muscle wise? :)



eh?

[xinster]

eh?

i cant belive you didnt get that joke

[Digital Masta]

i cant belive you didnt get that joke


Ah well.

[akitaka]

Let's see - romaji pronunciations...

Scott becomes skirt
John becomes Joan (ouch!)

more?

And what's with the Samurai Soul? She has a bad temper and likes to lop people's heads off for little or no reason? If she lost, she would have seppiku'ed to remove the shame? :boggled:
Hey, at least she wouldn't be cold-fish. If you know what I mean.

[crabity]

back to names...
two syllable usually works best because it hardly ever gets butchered.
my name just happens to be one of the few rare exceptions. *sigh*