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Japan has its own Miss Universe for the first time in almost half a century, but the average Japanese salaryman is hardly pleased as the winner doesn't look "Japanese" enough, according to Shukan Bunshun.

Riyo Mori, Japan's new Miss Universe, is certainly well-proportioned courtesy of practicing dance since the age of 4, but the 20-year-old has hardly tickled the fancy of the demographic most expected to be excited by her title win."One sports newspaper even ran of photo of the Thai representative in the belief that it was Mori," a sports newspaper editor tells Shukan Bunshun.

Gruff old salarymen are also annoyed that Mori chose to wear a geisha's garb for the National Costume part of the beauty contest, believing it was too much like "Hollywood glitz."

The weekly says Japan's new tack in approaching Miss Universe can be laid at the feet of Frenchwoman Ines Ligron. Ligron, the overall producer of Miss Universe Japan since 1998, was brought here under the direction of U.S. tycoon Donald Trump, a co-owner of the Miss Universe pageant, and changed the way Japanese were taking part in the contest.

"Ines has no regard at all for cuteness. She respects traditional Japanese values of humility, earnestness and proper manners, but says taking them on to the world will only leave you crushed," a Miss Universe Japan spokesman tells Shukan Bunshun. "Rather than these values, she encourages contestants to be independent, set goals, be intelligent and emphasize their strengths. Rather than pale-looking women, she wants women to be mature, glamorous and healthy looking. Japanese wouldn't think of beauties along these lines."

Kiko Matsuyama, a finalist in the 2007 Miss Universe Japan contest, said that Ligron is a hard taskmaster.

Riyo Mori: Beautiful, but is she cute?

"My skin is really white, but she said that in the spotlights on stage I'd look deathly pale, so told me to go and get a tan," the beauty queen says.

Miss Japan 2004 Eri Machimoto also spoke of how Ligron improves the quality of Japanese contestants.

"One day while I was wearing monotone clothes, she shouted at me, saying that I was still young and should be wearing more colorful fashions," Machimoto says. "And she was always on to us about how we need to read the papers to find out what's going on."

Don Konishi, a judge on the 2006 Miss Japan Contest, is also a Ligron fan.

"Models popular in Japan now, like Yuri Ebihara and Moe Oshikiri, just haven't got what it takes to make it on the global stage," he says. "Frankly, I think women who look like little more than nightclub hostesses are more of an embarrassment to Japan than anything else."

Ligron knows what she's looking for and her results speak for her achievements -- three top five finishes, including Mori's win and Kurara Chibana finishing runner-up last year.

"In Japan, there's still too much of the idea of punishing those who stand out," Ligron tells Shukan Bunshun. "Don't think the same things as everybody else and show more of your own personality. Don't just copy the fashions of popular idols. It's important to take care of your own personality."

It doesn't surprise me that a foreigner cherrypicked that girl--she's a lot prettier than the two top models they give examples of. In fact, those models are shockingly ugly. Japanese mainstream taste is incredibly awful about such things.



She's uglier than even the Olsens.



You get the idea.

i don't know. the first chick i think is damn cute.

that other one, though.... i don't think she's human. she's like a scary pixie or something. i can see her jumping out of a tree to bite someone on the leg.

The one with the burger is pretty cute. The alien one is scary though.

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I'm not saying she doesn't have a lot of model attributes. I'm saying that for a girl who's pretty much the top supermodel in Japan, there's a hell of a lot of freaky stuff going on there, from the awful way her hair sits on her head, to her wonky smile and kind of terrible eyes.

I mean, if I told you this chick with the cheap styling and bad hair who looks groomed to be nothing more than a flight attendant and has personality to match was a Japanese top model, wouldn't you be kind of surprised?



Well, maybe not...

Gah. Is that Tyra Banks?

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Japanese flight attendents are jaw droppingly stunning. We passed ALOT in an airport waiting to board a plane and nobody could stop staring. I just wish I remember what airline it was.

And I don't think that contestant is beautiful I think she is rather bland and pretty, I certainly wouldn't look twice...but maybe I have weird taste.

AND I don't think we can criticise any culture at all when our models are emaciated coat hangers...of course there are exceptions but really, alot of models I see in our Vogue I want to take home and feed. The first model posted is gorgeous. The second is scary and skinny...like alot of models.

And I like tyra too

Tyra Banks is a weird example. I think she has the bod and just kinda shows up for work every day, eventually ending up on top. Modeling is bullshit. Not to mention her wannabe Oprah personality is vile. But I mean, she came up showing off her tits and ass in catalogues, not a lot else, right?

The reason the Miss Universe Japan winner is relevant is that this healthy-looking chick runs contrast to the addiction with the godawful pixie cuteness in mainstream Japan. My point wasn't that the models are "ugly" (I really don't care) but that they were obviously chosen solely to look like starving teenagers working an auto show. Their actual attractiveness is in the toilet because of this aesthetic. I shouldn't have said she looks worse than an Olsen -- she looks like an Olsen.

I don't have a problem with incredibly skinny models. This is a different deal.

it's clearly a reaction against the trend of japanese women having surgery to look more "western".
the idea that the only people that should be considered attractive within different races are those that most closely resemble the homogenous, identikit, hollywood stereotype is pretty sick.

Normally Tyra Banks is quite pretty, that's just a really weird photo.

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Yeah, I agree. Usually when I think of someone who is pretty I think of Tyra Banks rather than like Paris Hilton or someone. I think she looks great... It just looks better when someone is shapely.

The Japanese girls in those pictures look kind of scary and alien like and just... it's really not attractive. The one who won the Miss Universe is a lot prettier.
I don't understand why out here in America the whole being pale and sickly is attractive either. It's gross and ugly. Why would you want to look like a wax doll of a starving child or some alien elf creature?

i was rooting for miss japan when i watched it the other night. she was adorable. so was miss korea... she looked like an anime character.

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I do have to disagree with you on the "pale isn't attractive" part. I'm a redhead with very fair skin (besides the freckles, sorta Nicole Kidman pale) so I actually find tans (not naturally dark skinned people like people of African or Greek etc descent, that's different) unattractive. The idea that someone would deliberately burn their skin, which will cause wrinkles and cancer in later life, is gross & ugly to me. Why would you want to look like a wrinkled old handbag?
But each to their own, I guess.

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