Five Useless Gadgets You Should Throw in the Trash Right Now
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Your house is full of crap, and you know it. Along with that old suit you'll "fit into again one day" and the cupboard full of juicers and lemon squeezers, it's likely you have a lot of computer hardware you'll never use again. That's normal though, right? Everyone has a collection of USB card readers, cables and battery chargers in the bottom drawer, after all.
But I'm talking about big, modern gadgets you may even have just bought. Things that you think you need, but were clearly a waste of your money. Here's a list of five things that are useless, and which you should send to the thrift store right now.
First, an anti hate-mail caveat: Some of this kit is still useful in a professional context. If you use this stuff every day, you know who you are -- please don't write in. But for the rest of us, these hunks of plastic are just taking up space and electricity.
Printers
Buying a printer is like buying a timeshare in a vacation home. It looks cheap until you figure out all the extra costs, and that you don't ever use it after the first year. Outside of an office or a photographer's studio, they're obsolete -- myriad online printing sites will take care of your photos, at a better quality and lower price than you'll get at home.
Still printing articles to "read later"? Get over it. Almost any cellphone has a good enough screen to read text. If you have an iPhone, you can even use the "Instapaper" application to automate the process -- hit the Read Later bookmarklet and enjoy the article later, away from your desk. The forests will thank you for it.
Scanners
Related to printers, only even less useful. Slow, clunky and noisy, scanners used to be good for digitizing photos and text. Now, your camera or even your phone will do the same. Almost nobody uses film anymore, and for those who do, the lab will pop a CD of your photos, already digitized and dust-free, into the envelope along with the prints.
If you regularly scan text documents and use OCR (optical character recognition) to make them into something other than dead trees, you can forget that, too. The average cameraphone can take a clear enough picture to read the text, and from there you can either email it to a service like ScanR (which converts your pictures to editable PDFs) or just drop it into EverNote, a cross platform application which does the same. Your filing cabinet has never been so empty.
Built-In Optical Drives
This one is a qualified entry on the list -- you sometimes still need a DVD or CD drive to actually get information onto your computer. Once it's on there, however – in the form of an OS installation or a ripped CD – you don't need it anymore. Putting an optical drive in a notebook seems, well, old fashioned.
In fact, a modern optical drive just isn't that useful anymore: Hard drives are so cheap that backing up to multiple DVDs is pointlessly slow and painful. CDs don't need to be burned when you can just email a MP3 file, and actually taking a DVD on a trip to watch on, say, the plane, is an extravagance your laptop's battery won't appreciate in this day of fast DVD rips and movie downloads. Buy a MacBook Air or a netbook and keep a $20 burner around for emergencies.
Fax Machines
Still sending faxes? Hi grandad! The fax was useful when it was the only way to move documents around faster than mailing them. Now it's pointless. Most documents never exist in paper form anyway, so you'll need a printer just to get started with the sending. And if you fax directly from your computer, that's no excuse, either -- why not just email the PDF?
An email is as trackable as a fax, and harder to fake (I may or may not have altered faxed documents for previous employers). It's also a lot harder to lose, and a lot easier to find if you do. Granted, a trip to the fax machine buys you a few minutes away from the desk, but then, why not just quit the office altogether and work, like I do, from the comfort of your bed?
Landline Phones
There's one big reason that people keep a landline at home: 911 calls. The landline runs off power from the telephone line itself (a neat precursor to power over ethernet) so if there's a blackout, the calls still go through (unless you have a cordless handset, of course). And because a landline is tied directly to a single address, the emergency services know where you are.
But a cellphone is always with you, even when you're hiding under the bed from burglars or murderers. What if your battery dies? Borrow another phone -- there's always somebody around. And if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere and things get ugly, a landline won't help you anyway. What about coverage? It's true that cellphone coverage in the US is not exactly ubiquitous, but again, if you're out in the sticks with no signal, you're unlikely to find a landline anyway.
The emergency services still know where you are, too. Your rough location is tracked by the cell tower routing your call, so you'll be directed to a local call center. With GPS enabled phones, things will only get better.
Burglar alarms? File under the caveat above. If you have a dedicated line, fine. Just don't rent a second one just to hook up a handset you don't need.
There's one other problem with a landline, or rather, with your brain: You don't remember anyone's number anymore. Stick with the mobile, and learn to be less paranoid.
Anything else? What junk do you have at home that does nothing but collect dust? Tell us in the comments!
Posted by: JamesR | Nov 3, 2008 7:46:25 AM
I do not agree with the burners. How else would Netflix stay in business without cheap DVDR discs to "back up" the rented movies!
Posted by: Agent655 | Nov 3, 2008 7:54:18 AM
i agree as well, however, you didnt mention the G1 ?
Posted by: ierik | Nov 3, 2008 7:58:38 AM
When I moved into my current apartment, I didn't even bother getting a landline.
Home printers are still a must-have for students, because that's the only demographic that regularly finds itself printing something at 2am to hand in before 8am. Haven't used mine since graduating, though.
And optical drives on notebooks are only useless if you pray at the altar of Jobs. If you want an actual choice of operating systems, you need some means to install them -- and I'm not sure if USB drives are viable.
Posted by: Sergiy Grynko | Nov 3, 2008 7:59:41 AM
My one borderline obsolete thing is this bookmark to Wired I click from time to time. I think the editor gets on meth or viagra when he/she writes this stuff. I need paper printouts, as a comp screen is hard on my eyes.....it's a sight impairment thing. I will stick to a landline, as it's cheaper than any cell plan I've heard/read about. Also, I don't believe in being fused to my tech like some kind of new-age siamese twin. Too much of that mentality around already.
As for the rest, I don't care.
Last, if we think our tech empowers us, we're wrong. It only seems to make us more wanting as humans. But hey, such humans seem to have a better chance at getting writing gigs at Wired. So what do I know?
Posted by: Swen | Nov 3, 2008 8:06:40 AM
I feel so out of date reading this article. I just recently happily setup all my stuff, printer,scanner etc. Now I am supposed to take it and throw it out/donate it?
Posted by: Martin | Nov 3, 2008 8:07:41 AM
I feel so out of date reading this article. I just recently happily setup all my stuff, printer,scanner etc. Now I am supposed to take it and throw it out/donate it?
Posted by: Martin | Nov 3, 2008 8:07:55 AM
I found a pair of walkie-talkies the other day in a closet. Good radios to be sure, but it seems to me that push-to-talk phones have made those pretty obsolete for anyone but mountain climbers.
Also have to agree with the printer note from Sergiy - my all-in-one got a workout in school, but it's been pretty quiet since I graduated. I still use the scanner on occasion, though.
Posted by: Percussiveness | Nov 3, 2008 8:16:28 AM
A cameraphone is up to the task of a decent scanner and/or can replace OCR? Are y'all serious? By and large, your average use has a crappy, $49 phone whose pictures are pixelated at best. No way that current cameraphones come even close to replacing a decent scanner, especially if you need to actually read the text for exams or multiple pages.
Same goes with printers. Reading a text on most cells phones? I can feel my eyes bleeding just thinking about that.
Posted by: zealeus | Nov 3, 2008 8:16:34 AM
No. The person writing this has no use for them, but I suspect he never did. I don't think that an online printing service will be of much help for printing paypal shipping labels, a digital camera produces poor results for digitizing artwork, especially line art, DVD/CD is still the most ubiquitous medium for data storage, and I have a burglar alarm. And so far, for my needs, nothing says powerless like a netbook or MacBook Air. CNET listed it as one of the biggest tech flops of the year.
Most of these recommendations have about as much of a foundation in reality as the fallacy of the paperless office.
Posted by: JD | Nov 3, 2008 8:21:57 AM
Well I'm still working through at digitizing my family's extensive collecitons of family photos - after every photo has been scanned - then I'll get rid of my scnner - but I pretty much agree and have already gotten rid of everything else.
Posted by: Creeva | Nov 3, 2008 8:22:31 AM
I would guess that if one is an effete snob, one could do away with these 5 items.
People with a home office still need and user the printer-scanner-fax machine.
Color printers are still handy for printing out a quick photo, still cheaper and faster than going down to the local photomart to make a copy, or sending it off to a web based printer and having to wait on the mail.
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For those who buy computer games, how're you going to install the game without a DVD drive? Until games start coming out of a flash chip, people will still need those things.
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As for land lines, I have a VOIP phone that I use for making overseas calls for free. My cell phone carrier's unlimited weekends and evening rates don't include out of the country calls.
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Sorry Charlie, but your article sucks.
Your reasoning of being able to do everything with 3rd party pay services are great for people who have the rare need to print, fax, scan, install, or call, but there are still lots of people that have definite needs for these "archaic" devices.
Posted by: TR Bob | Nov 3, 2008 8:26:23 AM
Scrap FAX? Remember that FAXes have a legal status in many countries that email does not. You sometimes need a FAX
Posted by: xman | Nov 3, 2008 8:26:44 AM
Please, ENOUGH with the built-in light drives. IF the notebook's ROM has a "boot from USB" feature then I'm good to go and don't need a cd or dvd drive. So much weight can be saved be leaving the damn things out. I've shopped around and zeroed-in on more than one nice, light looking notebook only to turn away when I found it had a built-in light drive.
Posted by: interval | Nov 3, 2008 8:31:59 AM
KEEP TRYING CHARLIE... KEEP TRYING.
Posted by: Jennifer | Nov 3, 2008 8:33:31 AM
Obviously written by somebody who has no clue of the myriad uses for faxes or the extensive problems with VoIP. Shame on you, Wired. Find writers with their feet on the ground.
Posted by: Lesley | Nov 3, 2008 8:33:39 AM
I use my land line all the time. My cell phone is paid by my company, and they don't take kindly to excessive personal use. Plus I need the land line for my DSL service. I have a 3 in one HP device, and the only time I use the scanner is if I want to send someone something out of a book, such as a recipe. The fax I have only used occasionally, but when you need it you need it. If you are refinancing a house, getting bids on home improvements, etc, it comes in very handy, since you often need to sign documents and send them back, and it beats having to drive to Kinkos. I have kids in school so the printer is used nearly daily.
Posted by: Iggy | Nov 3, 2008 8:34:25 AM
Wow another typical Wired bit of duchebaggery. The pseudo techno elitist thing with the trendy "oh i give a crap about nature and i are green" is getting TIRED.
Posted by: wired sucks off donkeys | Nov 3, 2008 8:35:11 AM
Well, I took the plunge last week and ditched the landline. We did a test for a month and other than 1 personal phone call, the rest were robocalls from McCain and various polls, etc.
All three of us have cells and cell to cell is unlimited. The rest of the calls aren't that many anyways. It does feel weird, however.
The rest of the suggestions I am not so sure about as I am a designer and need to scan and occasionally print stuff out for approvals. DVD burner/player sure, for a while until HD are 99.9% reliable (just lost my Firewire external)
Posted by: jfarley1 | Nov 3, 2008 8:39:50 AM
I agree with the general idea, but no scanners? What about the myriad photographs and documents created before 1980? We're going to need scanners for many years to come.
The desire to be futuristic should not override your desire to be thoughtful.
Posted by: Bob | Nov 3, 2008 8:40:06 AM
As someone has said - landline cheaper.
Printer useful for printing e-tickets and sometimes photocopies of things - which is where the scanner comes in.
Optical drives... still have enough existing games/movies etc. - and likely to buy more requiring DVD based installation.
Fax... perhaps I can live without.
So - thumbs up to 4 out of 5 of these "obsolete" things.
Posted by: Andrew Harvey | Nov 3, 2008 8:41:58 AM
Yes, so my form for dependent care flex dollars should just be emailed to the fax number listed. I am sure that would work just great.
And getting the required signatures on write only pdfs without printing, no problem I am sure.
Sorry, but I need my printer. I need a fax (though I borrow the one from my office), and I need an optical drive for things like... installing software.
/epic fail
Posted by: Brian | Nov 3, 2008 8:43:03 AM
I gave up my home landline eleven years ago, but the writer's reasons are laughable:
"But a cellphone is always with you, even when you're hiding under the bed from burglars or murderers. What if your battery dies? Borrow another phone -- there's always somebody around."
Excuse me, Mr. Burglar, may I use your cell phone? My battery died.
Posted by: Joe the Commenter | Nov 3, 2008 8:43:21 AM
This is a completely stupid list. I (and millions of others) routinely use every one of the items on the list, for good reasons. How about finding a writer who actually works for a living rather than Yet Another Green Propagandist?
Posted by: Phil | Nov 3, 2008 8:43:50 AM
Printers: Agree they're a waste, disagree that most phones out there are worth reading on. Stop looking at the high-end margins and look at what the majority of the market still uses and buys.
Scanners: I rarely use mine, but to claim that a camera is "good enough" is a stretch. The iPhone's resolution for a full image barely meets the dots PER INCH of a discount scanner.
Optical Drives: Yes, hard drives are nice for backups, but look how they're used and you find that their problem: always connected, they're just as likely to get infectedas their main. A single removable write-once optical DVD can easily store the REAL essentials that would otherwise be lost.
Faxes: Agree.
Land Lines: Your analysis here both grossly exaggerates Cell phone saturation in the US and ridiculously underestimates the availability of rural land line. Living in the foothills of mountains, I don't have to go too far off the interstates to discover zero cell coverage- even in the middle of a notably-sized and affluent housing development. Landlines? They're there. Many of us need to keep them, if only to set up call-forwarding from our (main) cell phones to something that's reliable.
Posted by: Chas | Nov 3, 2008 8:46:28 AM
While I agree these devises are less important now than they used to be, they still have a purpose.
Printer – Do you really want to go to kinkos to print mapquest directions, personal official / legal documents, templates for craft projects, or school papers?
Scanner – scanning in bill statements, pay stubs, or scanning out of books and magazines for students / artiest.
Optical Drives – Playing games you can't download, old games, backing up your system when your network is down, burning CDs for older relatives
Fax Machines – When you work with a company who uses a fax, you need a fax yourself.
Land Line – It still much cheaper for someone in a home office to use a land line than pay $100 per month for unlimited cell phone use.
Posted by: matt | Nov 3, 2008 8:46:35 AM
i agree with all of them. I run a business doing IT and Web Dev. I use my optical drive like once a month MAYBE. I use GrandCentral (free!) for my phone which works like a charm, havent had a landline for years.
However like Iggy pointed out, Scan/Print/Fax is where I am stuck. if you need to sign documents and send them back to someone you typically need a signature signed and dated. I just had to go buy a printer and scanner grudgingly to deal with a bunch of paperwork.
I do use RingCentral (pay service) to receive faxes as PDFs, but i haven't found a solution to printing them out and signing, and then needing to scan to send back.
I suppose I could use a digital signature and append it to everything.... Hmm good idea actually! Thanks for giving me the spark of inspiration!
Posted by: phil | Nov 3, 2008 8:46:49 AM
Most DSL providers such as Speakeasy can hook up a direct digital line without the need to have the phone service cost included as well. I ditched my land line about a year ago and just went to cell, would never go back. Its also a great convenience for anyone who is trying to contact me, as I still do with many people, call the house line first, and if they dont pick up, call the cell. Why have the land line in the first place, one number, any location. Also, and Im not positive on this, but I believe that most modern cell phones submit location data to the 911 centers when a call is placed do they not? I remember reading a couple articles about this being put in place a couple years ago. If thats the case, I would much rather the emergency responders have my GPS coords from my iPhone than just a general address.
Posted by: Kevin | Nov 3, 2008 8:50:06 AM
I can't believe you get paid to write crap like this.
Posted by: Reality | Nov 3, 2008 8:51:17 AM
Landlines. I have two children, one of whom is just now old enough to understand the intricacies of telephones and to sing a song about calling 911 if there's an emergency. She won't be carrying a cell phone for quite some time - longer than she'll be happy with, I'm sure (caveat - maybe she'll get a super-limited emergency phone sooner than she'll get a real cell, but that's a long way off too). Still, she'll be able to call for emergency services from our home forever, because our land line is not going anywhere.
Posted by: Landline Forever | Nov 3, 2008 8:53:03 AM
I've been refraining from joining the usually endless train of criticism each and every single WIRED article receives, but it ends here.
Although WIRED is somehow softcore geeky oriented, idiotic know it alls, that seem to have to connection with the real world, still suck.
Go die in a pit, a bare, cold hole, as you'd like.
Posted by: joao rocha | Nov 3, 2008 8:53:18 AM
While at it you can dispose of a few other things as well: PCs (since a smartphone is essentially a computer with phone functions), electricity (smartphones have their own battery), TV (you can watch shows on your smartphone; why keep a TV around?), cable service (for the same reasons), the kitchen (hell, you can always order food from your smartphone), women, and clothes, since you're working from the comfort of the bed.
Posted by: Land Shark | Nov 3, 2008 8:54:46 AM
Emergency services still know where you are?
Sure, we have a rough idea about 80% of the time, but FAR too many people believe that 911 has a magical instant locator screen for cell phones. WE DON'T.
Posted by: 911 dispatcher | Nov 3, 2008 8:55:13 AM
Wall warts, obsolete cell phones, and spent LiIon batteries litter my closets. Looking forward to a universal charger that can clutter my closet instead.
Posted by: JWS | Nov 3, 2008 9:00:18 AM
This articles makes no sense at all.
The person who wrote it must be ether an idiot or out of work because when you work in one offcie you need a fax machine a landline a scanner a printer and CDRom/DVD drive on your computer.
Posted by: greg | Nov 3, 2008 9:00:39 AM
I guess he missed the point about how fragile hard drives are.
Posted by: Ken | Nov 3, 2008 9:01:04 AM
Obviouly never worked in a design studio. I need all these things nearly everyday. Calibrated printer for proofing, scanner for digitizing flat artwork (a camera can never compete on this lever with a good scanner!). Artwork is often supplied on disc when too large to email, clients sometimes still fax over marked up proofs as it's difficult to explain over email or phone. Not everyone has a full version of acrobat you know, let along how to use it. As for landline phones, have you completely lost the plot. I don't particularly want to give my mobile number to my clients, and VoIP isn't reliable.
F+ must try harder
Posted by: Greg | Nov 3, 2008 9:01:36 AM
Re: faxing, there is still a use case when camera phones are enabled to shoot a document and fax it from the handset (a contract signed, an inspection report to get to the relevant people asap, etc.) In this case just shooting a photo of a document and emailing it to the recipient is of no help, as the quality of the photo makes it all but unusable. This is where services like Qipit (www.qipit.com) or scanr come in handy. Shoot the document with your camera phone, and send it to copy@qipit.com for instance. If you type in a fax number or an email address in the body of the message, then the clean copy of the document will be automatically sent to that fax number / email address while you keep a copy in your account (and on your phone if you choose to) for later use. Qipit does not require any software to be installed on your camera phone, and is free to use. (discl.: I am the founder of Qipit.)
Posted by: Benoit Bergeret | Nov 3, 2008 9:04:42 AM
Printers and scanners
Artists? My dad the illustrator uses both his printers and both his scanners everyday.
Optical drives
What about those of us that don’t steal our music (as there is no legal method of downloading music of adequate quality)? I buy CDs and would quite like to listen to them on my computer thank you very much.
Fax machines
As has already been said, not everyone will subscribe to your obviously superior ideas.
Landline phones
How about cost? It is certainly cheaper to call from a landline if you are already paying line rental for your internet connection. Mobile phone coverage here (Northwest Britain) is not good enough to replace a landline even if it was cost effective. I can only get a signal on my phone if I stand by a window.
Posted by: fophillips | Nov 3, 2008 9:05:25 AM
Land lines are still a must. When we got hit by Hurricane Ivan, power was the first thing to go. The cellphone towers eventually ran out of juice. The land lines were our only means of communication while roads were still blocked.
Posted by: Jamey Dee | Nov 3, 2008 9:05:57 AM
My bank accepts scanned checks for depositing electronically, so that saves paper, fuel, postal carrier shoe leather, etc. So not a dead technology yet -- at least until paper checks go away. If only I could figure out how to use it.
Posted by: silento | Nov 3, 2008 9:07:08 AM
Oh, brother. People have been writing these "if everyone did things my way they'd be happy--even if it wouldn't meet their needs" articles in the computer press since before the IBM PC was invented. They were a waste of time then, and they're a waste of time now.
Is WIRED so hungry for attention that they feel compelled to run lightning rod pieces like this? Was John Dvorak not available?
Posted by: loudGizmo | Nov 3, 2008 9:08:34 AM
I use all of those regularly.
How elitist and stupid this is. Just because you spend your extra money on the best and newest gadgets doesn't mean the rest of the world is with you. EVERYONE uses printers, sure maybe not a lot but I would like to see Charlie Sorrel never use a printer again.
Comparing a scanner to a picture on a camera phone? Come on, you know a scanner will produce much better detail. I scan paper notes into One Note all the time. I tried the picture thing and for quality's sake, scanner wins.
Optical Drives? That's a joke. First of all they don't take up any much needed space. I have 3 empty bays in my tower, and sure I don't use it often, but when I buy a game on DVD or need to install something onto my optical-less tablet, guess which drive I am using on my desktop.
Faxing is outdated and old, but guess how many companies and services out there still only accept mailed items or faxed items. Whether or not it can be faked easily is none of my concern. An email attachment of my signature is just as fakeable. Shit I just faxed something yesterday. Guess what, didn't cost me a stamp and they don't accept e-mail.
Landline phones do serve less of a purpose than they used to, but if you are home more than not, the price difference is HUGE. I admit the only reason I have the phone line is because it cost the same with or without it. Do I use it? Not that much but when I can't find my cellphone it is good for that at least.
Posted by: Retarded | Nov 3, 2008 9:09:35 AM
The landline phone is still an essential piece of emergency backup equipment here in California. Cell phone towers are quickly overwhelmed with traffic in an emergency, and their batteries run out in a few dozen hours. You still need to have redundant communications channels in the modern world, despite these claims to the contrary.
Posted by: heywood | Nov 3, 2008 9:09:39 AM
Spot on. When my girlfriend and i just broke up and her scanner/printer combo disappeared from the house, I felt a little nervous about not having a way to put ink on paper when i needed directions... Then I realized I did: a pen. Sure, it's more convenient to just click print, just as there are times when I need to send or receive a fax. But these are the exceptions. And the only time I have even opened the CD drive in my laptop purchased about a year ago is when I accidentally hit the button, which happens aggravatingly often.
Posted by: GreenishBlue | Nov 3, 2008 9:10:29 AM
Wow, i didn't expect so much hate on this article. apparently these people are really attached to their peripherals.
but yeah, most of that is spot-on. With free software and cheap backups in case you really need them, you're set.
Posted by: garrett | Nov 3, 2008 9:10:54 AM
The same logic says no one needs a car because of public transit - I'll bet Charlie doesn't give up his car
The fax is required once a month by things having to do with our business, building contractors and stuff related to support for our daughter's high-school.
I have business DSL and the land phone cost for it is negligible. But I could lose that.
Phone camera instead of a scanner? That's a pretty stupid piece of advice. Check out today's "Luann" where the ditzy blonde made a calendar of phone-camera photos. Real fine quality.
No Printer? Try having a real job some time. I've been an IT contractor for 20+ years, and I'd love to give clients everything electronically. Will they accept that? No way.
Bottom-line: young know-it-alls can do away with these items and roll their eyes when the 40-somethings ask for a clearer scan or a printed copy or a clearer phone connection on a conference call. The rest of us will go on thinking they are douches
Posted by: Steverino | Nov 3, 2008 9:11:23 AM
You're right.
Isn't it funny how defensive (combative?!)people get when confronted. The excuses are endless but really boil down to us wanting (NEEDING!!) to have everything we might possibly use at our fingertips...ah, i love this country.
Posted by: shawn | Nov 3, 2008 9:12:32 AM
I agree with everything on this list except optical drives--at least until Windows supports ISO natively, and makes it easy to use a disk utility to create them from the old disks.
Posted by: Allen | Nov 3, 2008 9:13:42 AM
I was just going to say the same thing. As a graphic designer/artist, I use a scanner and printer every single day. Guess what other outdated technology I use regularly? Gasp.... a PENCIL! a PEN! actual PAPER!! OMG!
Also, I'm not fool enough to think that optical drives will last forever, but just because Steve Jobs (I work on a mac, and love it) tells us that optical drives are useless in 2008, does not make it so. Jump the gun much guys? Come on! So long as dvds and cds are still produced, people will need optical drives. Guess what else is making optical drives relevant to me? Surprise... downloading tv/media content! I'm not going to keep filling up my drives constantly with tv shows when I can just burn dvds every month or so and keep my harddrive space for actual work and important files.
Posted by: Paul | Nov 3, 2008 9:17:13 AM
I believe the article says BUILT-IN optical drives people. They're a waste of space and weight on a laptop. Keep a single one around the house and move it from machine to machine to use. You'll find you dont use it much.
Posted by: AdrianDB | Nov 3, 2008 9:18:44 AM
I get it:
Thought provoking --yes.
Realistic --no.
Posted by: JuRD | Nov 3, 2008 9:20:07 AM
The writer lives in a smallish digital world, not shared by everyone.
>> Printers? As long as someone out there wants a paper copy (FedEx label, teacher, etc.) there will need to printers.
>> Scanners? As long as there are hardcopies of images that were never digital, you'll need a way to digitize it.
>> CD/DVD ROM? Maybe I don't want 500 gigs of stuff on my laptop's hard drive. DVDs are fine off-HD storage.
>>Fax Machines? Again, as long as someone has a paper copy of some document, they'll either have to scan it, or fax it. Either one digitizes. The world is full of paper documents from before the "paperless office" era.
>> Land Line? Cost is a factor. Sure, cell phones are a better solution, but until they're as cheap and have 911 capability, there's still a need.
Someone living in a dense urban environment might argue that -cars- are useless. Someone in remote Iowa is likely to disagree.
Some might argue that "network" and cable television is useless. Until G3 has the same coverage (and cost), there'll still be a need for old'style TV too.
Posted by: Micheal | Nov 3, 2008 9:23:52 AM
Lame Duck story looking for a reason.
Cutting down on electronic clutter is fine if you're an uber tech who can work parts on the fly or upgrades their computer every few months.
Iphones, G1's, netbooks, mountable media and alot of the services you mention requires funds and sophistication well beyond the run of most people.
It's a solution looking for a problem and I don't think you've got it. Go back and do it again.
Posted by: killj0y | Nov 3, 2008 9:24:39 AM
The author is an idot. WHile many dont need landlines those that have health issues damn well do. Those that live in rural areas with no cell service damn well do. Well the other Items. I have them all and use them everyday. SOOO You saying my phone can scan a phot to edit at 1200DPI.. REALLY wow thats awsome coolaid you got. As for faxes and Printers WOW im sure my customers would love if I jost emaild them there bill... WAIT then when I dont get paid they can say they never got it. SOUNDS good. Jesus leave the coffee shop for 10 minutes will you.
Posted by: m3kt3k | Nov 3, 2008 9:24:52 AM
Printers: Wrong. In many situations there just is no substitute for a piece of paper. Legal documents, invoices, internation shipping documents to name just a few.
Scanners: Wrong. If for no other reason than to scan those documents listed above but more importantly there are millions of boxes of legacy paper and billions of historical documents out there. The only wway to digitize those (assuming you don't want to retype them) ... you guessed it.
Fax machines : Wrong. Anyone that has any dealings with entities abroad but even some domestically will tell you. If you dont want to type a letter and drop it in the mail (yes, you'll need a printer for that) your only other option will be a fax.
Optical drives: Not just wrong but stupid. How are you going to get new software on you computer. How about larger size data transfers. I realize that hard drives are getting cheaper but DVD/CD's are READ-ONLY. There is value in being able to send someone data on a medium the can (accidently or deliberately) modify.
land line phones: This one is probably the closest to being right, but still wrong. IP phone is just not there yet. Contrary to what everyone says VOIP still lags in sound quality and reliability. Even a profesional implementation (dedicated internet connection and QoS) still will not work with things that still use a modem. Yes, there are still a lot of things out there, faxes, intrusion and fire alarms, and last resort notification systems (when that IP connection that VOIP relies on goes down for instance).
Wow, five out of five wrong. Thats pretty lousy even for Wired. That's even besides the fact that calling a SERVICE that's been around for a hundred years a gadget is completely moronic.
Posted by: SD314 | Nov 3, 2008 9:25:24 AM
6: Charlie Sorrel's opinions
Posted by: xout | Nov 3, 2008 9:26:11 AM
I agree with everything except the landline phone. Cell coverage is NOT universal! It's not even close. I live right outside a major metropolitan city on flat terrain and I (and all my neighbors) get ZERO bars at the house. If I go a block or two down the street, I get 2-3 (out of 5) EDGE bars and a mile away, full-strength G3 bars. Sometimes. And when power goes out for 2 weeks - like it did after Hurrican Ike - it starts getting tough to keep cell phones charged. So, until cell phone coverage is as universal as landline coverage, I'm keeping my landline.
Posted by: Jami | Nov 3, 2008 9:27:55 AM
To 911 Operator I dont know where you are from but DAMN Upgrade and please tell us so we dont move there. In vermont Yes they know exactly where you are. Passed a law years ago and re-numberd every road and street to match 911. SO when I called from my shop about a women that had collasped they already knew where I was and had EMT's enroute as we talked.
Posted by: m3kt3k | Nov 3, 2008 9:30:12 AM
Steverino hit the nail on the head. Apparently Chucko hasn't had to deal with a flesh and blood client outside of ironforge lately.
Try dealing with humans that don't know the difference between a quad core and a slice of bread and you'll quickly find your fantasy world of fully digital delights fading away fast.
Posted by: TF | Nov 3, 2008 9:31:38 AM
Last time I checked, you can't get DSL without a landline. Even if you don't need the phone, you need the service to read lame articles like this.
Also, printers come in handy when you have kids in school who need to print reports but can't at school because the school can't afford toner or paper. (Yes, a PDF should be a valid format for homework, but try getting that through your school board.)
And how do we get that drawing they made into the report? Maybe a scanner? Sorry, my 9 year old isn't that proficient with Illustrator yet.
And you failed to mention print-based magazines that use a lot of dead trees.
Posted by: Gary H | Nov 3, 2008 9:32:26 AM
I have to agree with the author on most of those points. Unless you're a student you can print stuff out at work, or go to a print shop, which I do maybe thrice a year at little inconvenience.
As long as there's one external CD/DVD drive in the house you don't really need one on any of your devices.
Doing away with a landline saves me $30 a month. I use a cell for most things and Skype for long distance. Too easy.
Scanners take up way too much desktop space for what they are worth. Borrow your friend's when you need to scan something, or bring your photos into a copy center. Ours charges $40/hr to scan images, but they can do A LOT of images in that hour, and it frees up your time for other stuff.
Fax machines are indeed for dinosaurs. Again, use a computer, and when really stuck use the machine at your work or a copy centre. People don't have telegraphs wired to their homes either!
Posted by: furtive | Nov 3, 2008 9:32:32 AM
DVD burner-- I'll keep mine, thanks. Hard drives aren't quite as portable and I do not do HTPC. One hard drive crash and kiss all those ripped films goodbye.
Fax-- who cares? We use one at work.
Printer-- anything in b/w I do on a good laser printer at work. I have a high-quality photo printer at home and I do use it from time to time as photography is a hobby. Always good to see what might need fixing.
Scanner-- for "everyman," maybe losing this is OK. I happened to inherit all my family's photo archives, some photos dating back to the 1900's. How else do I save them? None of my family's pictures were taken with digital cameras, so scanning them is the only choice to save them. I have a SCSI-based scanner at home, and a very HQ tabloid-sized scanner available where I work.
As for phones, we use VoIP at home.
Posted by: Lumpy da Moose | Nov 3, 2008 9:35:37 AM
With more and more ISPs setting bandwidth caps and establishing insane charges for monthly data usage, downloading software or movies via the internet is going to be cost-prohibitive for a lot of people. What about users in areas that aren't fortunate enough to have high-speed access? Downloading over dialup can and does still happen for some because it is the only option they have presently. That CD/DVD-ROM drive that's been dubbed archaic may save a lot of dollars and time in the grand scheme of things.
One man's junk is another man's treasure, as is the case for every single item you've listed here.
Posted by: JB | Nov 3, 2008 9:36:04 AM
Most of this advice isn't bad, just a bit ahead of its time. "With GPS enabled phones, things will only get better." So why not wait until they do?
It's true that the printer goes unused most of the year. But when you want to print last minute tickets to a concert, you'll be glad it's there. One day, you'll scan your cellphone or use its RFID. But really, it's not about technology. If they wanted to, they could just check your ID at the door today and not require a ticket.
Same goes for the fax--if you've scrapped the scanner, you can have fun taking pictures of pieces of paper and using eFax. All in all, why not just keep the scanner/printer/fax, even if it's only seldom used.
Posted by: EL | Nov 3, 2008 9:36:14 AM
While the only reason I have a landline is for my alarm system (an IP based one would require a new alarm brain) I am frequently in locations with no cellular reception. However, never in my life have I been to a building in this country that did not have the option of a landline.
Try calling someone from Roaring River State Park in Missouri. You'll only do it on a landline.
Posted by: John | Nov 3, 2008 9:40:27 AM
Dude, you're crazy. I've used my scanner 50 times in the last week, and even had neighbors show up to borrow it. I still use DVD for incremental off-site backup -- I can stash a couple of DVDs in pace that a hard drive wouldn't fit, for a lot less money. The printer is absolutely necessary for archiving the records required by the IRS, for making boarding passes for airlines, and for printing out really tedious patent documents that are going to get a lot of scribbling. And since I work in standards for emergency services with cell phones, I have to say you're a LOT better off with a landline for 911, especially if you have visits from older folks that are likely to be making the call.
Now as to fax -- I still use it a lot, but with a printer, a scanner, and a network connection, eFax does the job nicely. So a $15/month service has replaced the machine.
Posted by: Dean Willis | Nov 3, 2008 9:42:42 AM
Wow, Judging by the replies, I think Charlie's got to get a new gig...
Perhaps recycling old printers and fax machines...
Posted by: Canuck | Nov 3, 2008 9:44:58 AM
I feel like I arrived late for this massacre...
- Printer: could probably live w/o. Every once in a while I just need to print something and don't want to drive to Kinkos to have them screw up a simple print job.
- Scanner: my scanner broke in 2001. It was never replaced. I just used work's scanner when needed or used my digital camera for quick and dirty "scans"
- Landline: I prefer a landline over a cell phone. I feel like cell phones are electronic leashes. I use a 1978 princess phone (with adaptor to power the light) and I prefer this. It is comfortable and I sit down and chat with someone and give them my full attention. I'm not taking a dump, driving or doing dishes while talking to someone and paying attention to only half the conversation.
- Fax Machines: Would be great to see all fax machines nuked.
- Optical Drive: They will be obsolete soon. I hardly ever use mine. I won't miss the days of flipping through binders of files backed up on CDs.
Posted by: Mr. Designer | Nov 3, 2008 9:47:32 AM
While the intent of the article has some merit as a whole it fails in almost every situation.
It is entirely possible to get by without the items listed but you'd have to go out of your way and make sacrifice in almost every situation to do so.
Printers. Sure you may not need one, if you print stuff at work or a friends or pay through the roof for print on demand services when you need that hard copy. But as far as being obsolete it's ridiculous. About the only thing that should be going obsolete in the printer dept is standard use ink jet. The cost of laser printers is coming down so fast that it's almost futile not to get an ink jet.
Scanners. People that need them will always need them. This has never been a must have utility item that every computer user needs. It was rare that a system came bundled with one in the first place so this has always been a utility device for those that needed that functionality. Go tell any of my graphic artist friends to ditch their scanners and use their cell phones to import their still.
Optical Drives. You may not need one on every computer you own. But your going to need one at some point.
Fax machines. Same deal. While I can't argue their usefulness has gone into decline for the people that require them in the first place, they are still required.
Land lines. Sure ditch your land line and replace it with oh yeah dry loop dsl - still running on a land line. You can then put voip on it if you want to save those cell phone minutes and depending on your voip carrier you may get decent service and save a bit, specially if you are a huge long distance caller. But still VoIP quality is ok to poor at best and while that may not bother some people. If you have a teenager hammering your internet connection good luck with your phone calls.
Wired = tired, again.
Posted by: Chris Groff | Nov 3, 2008 9:48:48 AM
"Fax machines suck and are old!"
That's so frickin' cutting edge.
Posted by: Chris | Nov 3, 2008 9:50:09 AM
Good points, but I still have all but a fax.
1) Printer - I use it mostly to print out maps and/or directions. Don't have a car GPS and don't want one.
2) Land Line - Cheap. Reliable.
3) Scanner - I bought a scanner for one reason only... to scan CD covers for cover flow in iTunes. It can be hard or impossible to find some covers online and iTunes won't find covers for everything. Yes, I still buy CD's and will continue to do so until lossless files become the norm online.
4) Optical Drive - Might agree with you here. But they can be useful in case of emergency if you don't have an external drive or netboot capability. Certainly on their way out though. You can get 16GB flash drives for around $50 now and smaller ones are practically free.
5) Fax machines scare me.
Posted by: Guy Incognito | Nov 3, 2008 9:50:13 AM
Dood, got 2 have optikal drives for gamez otherwise no play 4 U!
Posted by: Ahnold | Nov 3, 2008 9:51:26 AM
What planet is this author from?
Ever tried to email a legal document? Can you say "hard copies not controlled?" How about scanning legal documents for archival purposes?
Landline? 35$/mth unlimited long distance with NO contract! Optical drives? are you for real?
Grow up boy!
Posted by: JEffie | Nov 3, 2008 9:52:23 AM
Oh... and one more thing I like about my land line is that people don't sound like robots on my land line.
Posted by: Guy Incognito | Nov 3, 2008 9:53:24 AM
I am going to disagree with most of these. Main stream society still needs the optical drive. landlines are great because when you don't answer them, people assume you are not home. I print out 2-10 pages a week, I am a student but not all of it is for school. I can part with the scanner, and the fax, but even the fax has its place in mainstream, especially with government.
Posted by: Max Power | Nov 3, 2008 9:56:43 AM
Wow... You people are harsh. Sure we still need access to printers and scanners and FAx machines, but does everyone need to own these things?? OK, I print a few pages a month, so I agree that printers are so cheap, why not have one around. But scanners and FAX machines? Most people only very rarely use one. Not necessary for most people to own. Probably a little early to get rid of optical drives, but it's only a matter of time.
These devices are like electric drills. The average electric drill gets used for 3 or 4 minutes over its entire life, yet everyone owns one. Acces is important, not crazy redundant ownership.
I've not had a landline for years and never miss it. My cell phone is fine. I love that get no marketing or political calls! Got rid of my landline when I realized I was paying 15 bucks a month for the line and 20 a month for fees and taxes! Crazy.
Posted by: Rich | Nov 3, 2008 9:58:46 AM
Well, to be fair to the writer, he did make the caveat that this list doesn't apply to some people in certain professional capacities.
As for printers, our last printer died four years ago. Imagining a house without stacks of printed emails and sewing patterns, I used my husbandly powers of procrastination for good, and managed to deliberately keep "replace the printer" on the to-do list for four years. Until September when job-related circumstances had us looking at a wall of printers. With 75% off, last chance to use her staff discount, and a pressing need to print resumes, my wife convinced me that she needed a printer in the house. I resisted, but in the end, I at least convinced her that we don't need a colour printer, and that a laser printer will better survive the long periods of disuse that it will endure. An inkjet needs to be used regularly or it clogs up.
So that was mid-september, and so far, I've printed the test page, and she's printed two sewing patterns.
Fail!
Posted by: Kev Orng | Nov 3, 2008 9:59:37 AM
This article goes to show how very little some people know about the business world.
FAX MACHINES are a primary tool used for any real estate transaction.
Faxes are more convenient than e-mail for numerous scenarios.
Posted by: Ryan the Realtor | Nov 3, 2008 10:00:32 AM
During a natural disaster in a highly populated area, cellphones are worthless, because everyone is using one, you can't call out or receive calls.
Posted by: Ryan | Nov 3, 2008 10:04:13 AM
I'm here to back you up. If I need a fax or scanner, they are available at a local kinkos/office depot/work. I can get a lot of faxes at $0.15/pg for the $30/mo. a landline costs.
If you don't work from home, and you don't live in the woods (suburbs don't count). You don't need a landline.
Everyone needs one DVD burner, but do you need one with you at all times? I have them in my desktop machines because they are practically free there, I have one external one that I can use (it's actually a $20 internal drive and a $15 cable to connect it to USB). I can use the desktop ones through the network if I really need to use the DVD burner from my armchair.
Basically, this article is right on the money, but you have the wrong audience. Apparently the people who read wired are all old hacks who lived through the depression.
I'd also add trucks to the list. The extra expense of a truck (especially pickups, but SUVs aren't much better) really adds up. If you only have to use it to haul stuff a couple of times a year, UHaul/enterprise can rent you a truck for a day for much cheaper than a gas guzzling pickup. I usually borrow someone else's when I need it though, because there are so many of them. It even's out though when we always have to take my car if there are more than two adults who want a ride.
Posted by: Jeff | Nov 3, 2008 10:04:39 AM
This article doesn't represent the real world for me and most people I know. For me the following are still true.
I still print out a fair amount of stuff like boarding passes, tax receipts from the county web site, forms that have to be signed and returned, etc.
I still use my scanner on old pictures, to capture print articles of interest, to make copies to share of items that I don't have digital sources for, etc.
I have a land line and one old fashioned phone that works when most every thing else doesn't. Sometimes power outages take down the cell phone towers. I do use my cell phone for most long distance calling and cell to cell is mostly free with those I talk to most often.
DVD burner - yes I share slide shows that have a lot of pictures and music in them and they work in everyone's DVD player.
The recommendation that one goes to someplace like Kinko's to do many of these things sounds like he lives next door to one. I don't want to make a stop and get my boarding pass on the way to the airport. I don't want to get in my car and drive a mile to scan a document. I don't want to wait to upload really large files, then drive somewhere to get my DVD.
The fax I need once a year or less and I do drive to Kinko's for that. But the last time I thought that was going to happen, they accepted a scan in PDF format.
Posted by: section101 | Nov 3, 2008 10:07:59 AM
Disagree with optical drives being obsolete- sure you can download stuff, but for me that just takes too long, buying a new video game and installing from CD/DVD is way less hassle for me than "D2D" style downloads... also I am one of those old-school types that likes to have hard copies of music and games including the packaging.
Torn on the Printer/Scanner/FAX comments- I guess I agree if you are talking about having the 3 as separate machines when you can get them all in one machine for not too much more money.
I can mostly agree with the landline being obsolete, but I know many people still would think otherwise for various reasons.... I use my cell like it is my landline the majority of the time, and hardly even use it's mobile abilities, but it does just so happen that I switched to cell 2 years ago because it was cheaper than my landline.
I guess the writers at wired were bored today.
Posted by: pygar | Nov 3, 2008 10:11:13 AM
clearly this guy has a serious camera phone, esp if it functions as a document scanner like my olympus... if this camera phone he's using is as rugged as my olympus, i'm very interested...
and i take it charlie doesn't ever need to print off a shipping label, or generate a physical copy for someone who doesn't have the means to store or view data.
speaking of which.... i can see why one would abandon floppy discs... but optical media? seriously? i don't know about the rest of you, but when i install digital performer, you bet your ass that i will need that disc at a later date.. same goes with operating systems....
with everything this article delivers, chuck better be first in line to recieve his dumb terminal and sell his soul to centralized computing...
Posted by: LW | Nov 3, 2008 10:12:19 AM
But if I give up my fax machine, then I will need my printer and scanner. Hmmmm...
Posted by: Mister W | Nov 3, 2008 10:14:54 AM
I don't think Charlie gave this much thought, if any at all.
Sure, you can argue that a Fax or a Printer are obsolete, but when you DO need them they are worth their weight in gold.
Some banks still require you to send official business via Fax, and you usually need a land line to send a fax through conventional methods.
A scanner is a good thing to have even if it wastes space. You never know when your wife or kids wants to scan those old pictures or articles of them in the newspaper etc.
Besides, you get to consolidate space by having all 3 "useless" gadgets into 1.
BTW I'd like to see you read some 500 page book on technical documentation off a screen and not have your eyes bleed.
Posted by: braindead | Nov 3, 2008 10:16:42 AM
I just love all the people here who can't read. He puts "Built-In Optical Drives" on the list, and a bunch of people object by *repeating what he said in the article* about how you still need a CD/DVD-ROM drive, but goes on to note why it's a dumb idea to have one built-in. Having a DVD-ROM is a must. Having one built-in to my laptop is stupid...
Posted by: GT | Nov 3, 2008 10:21:12 AM
It's pretty obvious to me that there really are a few (very limited) jobs where a person really doesn't need these tools. For the rest of us who do more than write articles and code, each one of these is an absolute necessity. And as for you dudes that think printing at work is an option, I'd like to know your real names so I never hire you or date you. That is unethical and freakin' cheap!
Posted by: melB | Nov 3, 2008 10:24:23 AM
This was a pretty bad article. On that list, the only thing I would actually recommend not having is a fax machine. Of course, if your fax machine is your landline phone then I would just keep both!
Printers I can almost understand, BUT it would be a lot better to put COLOR printers. No one needs to print color pages all the time, but kids doing homework, tax forms, anything on PDF that you need to get a hard copy of needs to be printed out! Making a trip to your local Staples or whatever to print that stuff is stupid. Get a cheap B&W laser printer and you're set.
Copying machines SHOULD be on the list. Most people will never need to use a copying machine (in fact, if you have a scanner and a printer OR a fax machine you have copying functionality!)
Sorry Wired, next time think through your choices before writing the article.
Posted by: larryhl | Nov 3, 2008 10:25:53 AM
Except for the few who have time to spare and gas to waste going to the local Kinko office, the general agreement here is that Charlie is a putz with his 5 "useless" technologies.
I would much rather read about 5 useful new technologies that makes my life easier that"
1. doesn't require paying someone else to do something I can easily do.
2. doesn't require wasting my time or gas driving to the local Kinkos.
3. doesn't waste my time reading these stupid articles in Wired.com.
Posted by: TR Bob | Nov 3, 2008 10:28:02 AM
So many burns, yet several still wrong.
Sure you can 'read text' on cell phones, but in the end, not as good to many as an actual print or larger screen. Printers of home purchase also can have a fairly good quality, equal to that of your 'high-class photo stores', as long as you know what you're doing. Like earlier, could have mentioned the G1, because iPhone is just.. Disgusting.
I personally have a DVD-RW/ROM-RW drive, they're very useful for many things, especially when it comes to school projects. You have to compile things to disc or DVD format in many instances when working with film or game programming.
As well, film is used by many people still. Not those cheap toss-away cameras only, but also many still use SLR Film. Digital cameras still aren't of the high quality for cheap enough, so unless you spend a lot, a scanner is effectively better than a camera for uploading pictures (Especially if you plan to post it on an art site).
Posted by: Squidz | Nov 3, 2008 10:33:32 AM
@Martin:
"I feel so out of date reading this article. I just recently happily setup all my stuff, printer,scanner etc. Now I am supposed to take it and throw it out/donate it?"
Before you junk your stuff, use it to practice SINGLE-clicking buttons on web-forms. :)
Posted by: J | Nov 3, 2008 10:34:48 AM
This is all well and good if the only people you ever communicate with are under the age of 30.
For those of us with less insular lifestyles, most of these gadgets are still useful for the following reasons:
Printing letters to send through the mail since everyone you know isn't a robot and likes a personal touch now and then.
Printing online documents that require a signature. After which you fax them to someone or, if you don't have a fax machine, you might scan and email it.
If you have children, having the landline phone - even if stripped - gives parents a greater sense of security. Especially if their 5-year-old isn't equipped with an iPhone just yet but knows how to pick up the house phone and call to report that you've collapsed on the floor while lifting all of this machinery and trying to lift it over your head into the too-high trash bin.
Communicating through fax with your lawyer who isn't yet equipped to email you all the documentation you may need to sue the guy who told you to get rid of all your machinery which resulted in your 5-year-old's 911 call and a week-long hospital stay.
Posted by: Bridgette | Nov 3, 2008 10:35:06 AM
I received a free 1 year subscription to Wired. Each month, it goes into the 'reading room' (men's restroom) at work without me even looking at it. I occasionally read it when the other material gets out of date.
Now I am removing the wired news feed from my home page and moving on. I have better things to waste my time on. Like the games I play that need to have the disk in the drive.
Have a good trip, folks. From now on, I'm staying home.
Posted by: Kevin | Nov 3, 2008 10:37:07 AM
@melB: Printing at work is, for some people, not just an option, but a job perk. I am allowed and encouraged to use any and all office equipment for personal purposes.
So if you call me unethical because I say I can print stuff at work, then you are prejudging without considering the facts, which puts you in the category of people I wouldn't want to hire! :) Unless, of course, I was hiring for the "Yes to Prop 8" committee.
Posted by: Kev Orng | Nov 3, 2008 10:42:02 AM
wow, this sounds like a guy who's still living in a college dorm and never had to do anything in the real world. Ever had to read anything more complex than a blog? Or the need to have high quality backups of legal documents?
Posted by: sam | Nov 3, 2008 10:43:03 AM
Printers for students are definitely essential, I am the printer dude on my hall and probably 40-50 pages are printed daily, and that's only maybe 5 people printing.
Printing concert tickets? Printing calendars? Handouts? Yes I agree printing out an article to read is a waste of time and money and resources but it's not the only thing printers are for.
As for fax machines, I would love to do away with them, but unfortunately there are a lot of companies out there that will not accept things like contracts through email, with a electronic signature or a scanned signature.
Optical drives? Try emailing 300 MB of photos like I did today. That's one weekend of shooting for me too. DVD's or CDs are much better options for people. Most people don't have the time or resources to set up a drop box on an FTP server, so CD's it is. How about audio CD's? I have a direct line out of my iPod into my Bose audio system in my car, and it still doesn't have the same sound as a CD, even one burn from MP3's
Scanners and land phones are becoming obselete yes. But still. 3 out of 5 things not worth throwing away....perhaps the article should have been, get a MacBook instead of a MacBook Air, and sacrifice style points for functionality.
Posted by: brodie | Nov 3, 2008 10:44:08 AM
I also think keyboards, mice, and monitors should be on the list.
Posted by: sorrel is a moron | Nov 3, 2008 10:44:59 AM
I have to disagree with a lot of this advise.
1) CD/DVD. Still useful. Especially if you a NetFlix client. A DVD burner is still a useful medium of storage. And by the way, you suggest another drive. Well fine, except the price is higher, most laptops don't house a second drive, etc.
2) Scanners are still useful for digitizing paper text. On the related note of using a camera then doing online digitization -- good luck! Stuff put on a white board will have glare spots due to room lighting. None of that will come out digitized. Better choice? Scan it in to pdf which most scanner support then post it to Google. Then use the 'View as HTML' link then copy your desired text and be done with it. I save $40/yr and Google has it archived forever.
3) Printers. Still useful too for the expenditure. A low capacity laser printer can be had for ~$60. Its output is cheaper than inkjet. For the high volume, high quality stuff send it to a printer. Use something like Scribus and push the dpi to 1200x1200.
4) Fax. Archaic yes. But there is a legal reason many firms still require faxing of expense reports and legal documents. They are admissible in court or IRS without challenge whereas a email still has to prove chain of custody.
Things you missed --
A) Old power supplies. Newer ones are more efficient. Old ones won't even have the power needed to run a Core Duo machine.
B) Memory. Unless you have old working MOBO's or the RAM is DDR2 its pretty useless. Send it to eBay, somebody else might have a need.
C) Roller mice. Go optical. They don't break.
D) PS2 keyboards. Unless you have a device still using PS2 the PS2-USB dongle is half the price of a new usb keyboard. Pitch them.
E) Glass monitors. The power and space consumed by a old CRT is not worth it. Prices of used LCD's make this a practical switch.
Posted by: JohnMc | Nov 3, 2008 10:45:47 AM
I would throw my printer out but professors still prefer hard copies. (sigh)I hate the high cost of ink.
Posted by: Ceaze | Nov 3, 2008 10:47:11 AM
I have to agree with the other posters that this is just a preposterous list. It's one thing for the author to say "these are things *I* can live without", quite another to say we all should live without them.
Re printers: aside from mailing labels, they are useful for all sorts of things, and no, a cell phone screen is not an adequate replacement for reading documents, especially long ones. Ever tried to read map directions on a cell phone screen? A good recipe for getting lost.
Re faxes: legal documents, and the ability to send things to non-propeller-head recipients. 'Nuff said.
Re optical drives: most software still comes on CD or DVD. You might be able to get away without one in your laptop, but for many people, most of the time they would end up hauling the external drive with them anyway, so the benefit of leaving it out of the laptop itself is lost. Also, many games still check the drive to validate the game--no drive = no play.
Re land lines: the main reason I still have a land line is so I can have a conversation with other people without sounding like the teacher in a Peanuts cartoon, so every other word is "What?" Cell phones are OK for the occasional on-the-go update, but for actual conversations they suck.
Re scanners: sure, most people don't need one, and probably most people don't even have one to begin with. But those people who do have them obviously have a use for them. And I don't know what kind of space-age cell phone the author has, but the typical model is nowhere near an adequate substitute. A hi-res digital camera, maybe, if you have the right lighting setup, etc. Depends on your quality needs.
Posted by: Clavius | Nov 3, 2008 10:47:54 AM
I disagree with the fax in part. If you work in a medical field like insurance, HIPPA requires paper in some cases and you still need to scan or fax the document to the carrier.
Posted by: Samn | Nov 3, 2008 10:48:44 AM
Like others said, the optical drive is the sketchiest of these suggestions. I burn CD's to listen to in my car and in my DVD/home stereo system, as I don't have an MP3 hookup and it's sometimes hard to find an empty station for an FM transmitter.
My most useless gadget is my Windows Media 2003 iPAQ PDA. When I got it in 2004, I used it like someone would use an iPod Touch w/ only 2 gigs of memory (from an SD memory card). Now, I have a phone or an iPod to perform the same tasks, including video on long trips and music, etc.
Posted by: James | Nov 3, 2008 10:51:34 AM
printers and optical drives?
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are you guys serious?
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downloading 500mb patches for games is bad enough, but when an install spans 4 CDs and is roughly 3GB in size, Charlie Sorrel, you're a loon if you want to throw your CDROM away. I was quick to move away from my floppy drive, as soon as I didn't need a boot disk anymore after formatting, that thing was in the trash, but my DVD/CD ROM? You're a crazy person.
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printers, so I should go to kinkos to print boarding passes, will call tickets, receipts I want to keep track of, my taxes, or maybe I should do it at work? I'm sure my boss will love that.
Posted by: sam | Nov 3, 2008 10:51:41 AM
I am not saying he is right but i do not understand the counter argument of landlines being cheaper. With the exception of those who get their cell paid by their company, and those who don't have cellphones; the remaining 95% are paying for both and we only need 1. I'd rather have the one that comes everywhere with me.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 3, 2008 10:55:13 AM
yeah... some of us don't want to have to leave the house every time we need to print a college essay, either.I never print photos, even though I probably should. But i do need my printer for all kinds of office-like applications, and I am sure other people do too. I don't want to go on a 20min-to-an-hour-long errand just to get something printed.
Land line----also because of our cell phone system being what it is--- I have a land line until cell services stop requiring contracts, and until they are more trac-phone-like by ...hmm.. How about NOT DIALING if you go over your minutes, instead of charging you an arm and a leg? I would at least like that option as a consumer and until its there, a land line is great for me. Unlimited long distance, and a fixed bill each month.
Posted by: printy | Nov 3, 2008 11:03:37 AM
I still have the external USB Floppy drive that came with my Mac in 2001, you know, just in case I ever need it.
That's becoming less frequent, though. I used it 5 times in the first four years, and once since then.
Posted by: Kev Orng | Nov 3, 2008 11:05:47 AM
Wow. Great comments (and lots of 'em!)
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A couple of things. Yes, I have given up my car. In fact, I haven't owned one since I was 20 (a long time ago). In the meantime I have leased and rented when I needed to, but mostly I use a bike, plus public transport for longer trips.
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I imagine that would be a lot harder in the US, though -- here in Europe the public transport is better and things are just closer together.
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Also, please note the statement before the list. There are a bunch of reasons people still need these things for work -- old fashioned clients who expect faxes, for one. But at home, they are pretty much useless appendages.
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Emergency services and cellphone positioning: I know that it is still not accurate and can only place you in the region of a particular cell. I hope that was clear when I wrote "rough location".
Last, the post from "Landline Forever" about your kids' 911 song: Unbelievably cute!
Posted by: Charlie Sorrel | Nov 3, 2008 11:07:24 AM
ya maybe at 22 i'm old fashioned, but i still had to fax stuff to schools for transcripts and such. Yes students still need printers and scanners are nice as well. For $100 you can get a decent all in one unit that doesn't take up that much space and if you don't ever use it, then who cares, less money on ink and paper anyway. Its worth it to have that one time you really need it. you are ahead of your time. In 5 years when all phones come with at least a 5 MP cam and better battreies and voice quality then we can do away with more of these extra things, but i'd always like to keep a "back-up" just in case.
Posted by: Aaron Kenworthy | Nov 3, 2008 11:08:48 AM
So the stereotypical Joe six pack has no use for professional tools... duh.
A scanner = resolution and control a camera lacks.
DVD drive = games, movies, backup, etc... yeah joe sixpack still doesn't get backups
Fax machines - well you just said get rid of the scanner so I can't pdf all those hand signed documents...
Land line are great, not everyone wants to be tracked, called on 24-7 on vacation, or pay 3x for phone
bleh
Posted by: meth | Nov 3, 2008 11:10:14 AM
I see where the author is going with this, but I don't think there is really a typical user. Where I live, sometimes you wear many hats to make a living -- and work at home. The number of home workers is fairly high, isn't it?
I live without a fax; anybody who still needs paper probably can wait for the mail.
There's a cell phone hole here, and the nearest place out of it is three miles away. I switched to VOIP for my office, but there's still a home phone landline.
Two thousand DVDs full of projects, well organized, means I grab just the projects I need and head out the door with the laptop -- and burn project copies for clients on the spot if required.
Scanners (three of them) get lots of work digitizing photos and artwork, and also *creating* artwork. The ancient (1993) three-pass scanner is still excellent for unique effects.
Printers get enormous use. A photo portfolio was needed, with each print examined carefully before adding it. A bound, 11x17 musical score needed to be submitted for a competition. I needed posters recently, and the nearest copy shop that can do them is 12 miles away -- gas and time is far more expensive than printer ink. There's printing CDs/DVDs, too. Special effects such as a small run of lunch bags for an event -- the older printer handles these fine. Printing on silk, rice paper, magnet stock, or t-shirt transfers sheets.
The author uses a cell phone to read. How old is that guy? At 60, I'm not reading comfortably on my cell phone. I'll keep my 44 inches worth of monitor, thanks.
Posted by: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz | Nov 3, 2008 11:10:54 AM
I think people are taking this article far far FAR too seriously. I agree with the author - I use none of these machines in my day-to-day life.
Notice however that he hasn't said they should be done away with complete - that they should all be hunted down and destroyed. Just that the average household has no use for them, and he's right about that.
It's especially true for my generation, the millenials. I don't have a single friend with a landline, a scanner, a fax machine, etc. There's the occasional printer because we're all students, but if we ever have a need for the aforementioned, we know where we can find them.
So stop being offended and berating the author of this article. He is just pointing out how technology has moved forward and how newer devices have begun to replace the old ones.
And yes, sam, go to Kinkos. The exercise will do you good.
Posted by: Kindle | Nov 3, 2008 11:12:01 AM
When a digital SLR can match the reproductive quality and longevity of Kodak PKR64 (professional Kodachrome) I'll get rid of my film scanner. Until then, my grandkids will be looking at me the same way I look at my grandparents; clear and bright and on a slide. How many digital image formats have survived for almost 75 years? 50? 15? That's what I thought.
Posted by: Dave | Nov 3, 2008 11:13:45 AM
The only reasons you stated correct are those for "Landline", but you still turned to need a landline, for a reason you didn't mention at all. See below.
You need the printer because kids use them a lot for homework. You cannot use cameras to replace scanners because of the spatial distortion, which results in lower recognition rate and useless graphs. You need the burner because mailing a DVD is easy while emailing a 8GB file is barely supported. You need the DVD reader because people still often share data with you in that format, you want to be compatible. The same reason for a fax, because a lot of government departments accept nothing else but faxes. Well, just because you need the fax, you will have to keep the landline.
Instead, I think the most useless gadget in comparison is the TV set. With all of the entertainment resources on the internet, what is the point of turning on the TV set at all?! I know my TV set hasn't been turned on for over at least 3 years by now.
Posted by: tongxinshe | Nov 3, 2008 11:14:31 AM
I am ready for the end of these technologies, as well, but the sad fact of the matter is that so many people rely on them, that you have to be ready to use them when they require it.
One way to dump these large machines but still be able to scan and fax is to use your mobile phone. The cameras on mobile phones are so good, and the device's connectivity allows you to use it anywhere. Check out scanR or Quippit:
http://rubbernecking.info/2008/11/office-in-your-hand-using-your-phone.html
Posted by: Kevin Neely | Nov 3, 2008 11:16:21 AM
I'm happy with my landline. It's VOIP, but still, it's not a cell phone.
what do I want to carry a phone around with me for? You have to be an idiot to walk around with a phone on your hip. I don't carry water bottles around either.
I have my alarm system plugged into my phone system, that in itself seems like a good reason to have a phone.
I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to again without a printer. Lets say I need directions to get some where. That map I print out is pretty handy. Or what about that cool recipe I want to print out and try?
Posted by: gfk | Nov 3, 2008 11:19:10 AM
I think this entire article is pretentious and a little condescending. The last thing the tech segment needs is someone dictating trends, as if our printers and phones were shoes and belts or backing up countless bootlegs to hard copy is pointless because none of them are in the top ten.... oh wait...... dammit too late. ;[
Posted by: Burt | Nov 3, 2008 11:22:51 AM
Holy cow, people are NEGATIVE. The article is fine/cool. If certain or all items don't apply to you/your dad/your dog, move on. It's not like the writer is suggesting you change your religion.
Posted by: Anthony | Nov 3, 2008 11:32:32 AM
Didn't anyone read the disclaimer? 'those that use them on a regular basis, you know who you are, this doesn't apply' (or something g of that nature... Anyway- I think you are right on... I don't have a land line, use my optical drives MAYBE every 3 months, and have all the other tools at work if I need them- I did break down and buy a cheap black-and-white printer for like 50 bucks or something, and that gets used usually only if I'm motivated enough to print my boarding passes off before I travel. Other than that, this article is spot on. Thanks for saying what I've been thinking for a couple of years now!
Posted by: Hal | Nov 3, 2008 11:35:45 AM
Glad this post is getting so much response, but please immediately stop telling people to trash their electronics. Most of them probably still contain toxic materials like PVC and heavy metals that are better off out of the landfill/incinerator. You most recently covered electronics recycling in September: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/gao-report-us-u.html
Posted by: Ben Rosenthal | Nov 3, 2008 11:37:31 AM
Problem is, my mother in law has one of those "I've fallen and I can get up" devices. They need a Land line, and my Cell phone doesn't work in most of my house.
Posted by: OldElvis | Nov 3, 2008 11:40:37 AM
If the writer had retained all that he threw away, he would have probably written a better article.
Camera phones are no good for any reproduction simply because or its wide angled lens distortion, which probably distorted the author's views. OCR from camera phones are as bad as speech recognition technology. The Fax machine, well, one might wonder how Mr. X signs his PDFs and sends, probably he shot it with his camera phone. Land lines are needed, they are cheap and they work even in basements, cellphones don't work in many places that an average human visits everyday. Printer is needed, but its use is limited in a regular household. And optical drives, well not everyone works with data thats small and cute and can be emailed.
Funny he forgot the snail mail box, probably he threw that away a while back.
Posted by: Das | Nov 3, 2008 11:40:57 AM
I completely agree with getting rid of personal printers. I'm in college and the only time I ever need one is when a teacher refuses to take a digital copy. It drives me crazy. We have a written-in-stone laptop initiative in the journalism school and teachers still feel the need to make 30 copies of a multiple page article. C'mon people! Send a PDF! Even when students need to print something out at 2 a.m. for a paper due at 8, we have a print center open early and it only costs a dime a page. It is so much cheaper than having to invest in your own machine and all of its peripheral ink and paper.
As for landlines, the only reason my roommate and I have one is because the package deal with AT&T for our internet was somehow cheaper with one. However, the only time I use it is when I lose my cell phone and need to call to find it.
I must say, I still use my optical drive but only because I have no dvd player at home. It was cheaper to hook up my laptop to my tv to watch movies. However, I don't buy dvds anymore so who knows how much longer I'll need to use the drive.
Faxes and scanners have their place I guess, but not in my world.
Posted by: meg | Nov 3, 2008 11:45:30 AM
Get rid of my landline?
What would I plug my rotary phone into - my electric typewriter?
Posted by: JD | Nov 3, 2008 11:45:44 AM
A.) I have a 3-in-1 Hewlett Packard printer, scanner, faxer and use it all the time. It saves me trips to Kinko's.
B.) You talked about the iphone but not the gphone android. If you are that cool, you should have at least mentioned the android. With the android you can find due north for one thing because it has a gyroscope in it. A good compass application can never be written for the iphone.
C.) Landlines have one serious advantage over cell phones: you can actually talk to someone on them.
Posted by: Adam Freeman | Nov 3, 2008 11:47:31 AM
I have to stick up for printers and optical drives.
I like having a printer mostly because I'm a student. I have to turn in paper copies of pretty much everything from source code to mathematical proofs.
Optical drives are good for games. Besides that, I tend to listen to music that's pretty out there, and I sometimes have to order CDs from the middle of nowhere to get a copy of a certain album because it's just undownloadable, if that's even a word (Firefox says no).
Posted by: emptycrawford | Nov 3, 2008 11:50:07 AM
Dear Mr. Sorrel,
Let me begin by first stating that I am a forward-thinking, educated person. But I must say that you, sir, have redefined the kind of technological condescension that prevents nerds from getting any pussy.
Toss into that equation the fact that you're a fucking moron, and you've got a few less Wired subscribers every month.
Seriously, no printers? That makes sense, because only an idiot would use it after the first year, right? Especially those of us who went to that "College" place, where we turn in papers ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
And who needs scanners? Obviously a graphic designer who's billing $400/hour is going to scan in those 35mm prints ON HIS FUCKING CAMERAPHONE, RITE?
And Oh, Jeepers, an Optical Drive on a Laptop! Because no video games out there require a disk in the drive anymore, do they? There's a reason I bought a $3,000 MacBook Pro, buddy - it can RUN SHIT. And you know what? It's got an optical drive, so when I feel like playing some Crysis, or listening to a friend's CD, or watching a movie that's as-of-yet-unavailable on iTunes, I CAN, unlike my friend who bought the world's thinnest computer and has to lug around a goddamned DVD Drive on a rope.
Fax Players are a cop-out, that's like saying, "Toss your old fucking Betamax's already!"
As for the times when I'm holed up under my bed hiding from murderers and burglars and my cell phone battery runs out, No. I don't think there will be somebody around to lend me a cell phone, that's why in addition to a land line, you should keep a shotgun under your bed.
How do you justify a comment as stupid as that? Maybe you've got a bunch of degenerate roommates who think they're "going off the grid" by buying a cell phone instead of a landline, but odds are it'll be one of your cracked-out, dipshit roommates robbing his own fucking house.
You sir, have been dubbed a Fucking Moron.
It's rare to see a collection of stupidity as profound as this outside of a Republican National Convention. I hope you're killed by a scanner thrown out of the window of some ignorant fuck who read this article and lent some semblance of credence to it.
--Buster
Posted by: Buster | Nov 3, 2008 11:53:42 AM
I don't think the "type with one finger age is gone yet." We still need everything, whatever profession you're in! We progress but not died out and woke up in digi land.
But I do like this article, because it just shows how many people are telling the writer off, but not realizing that we are not yet able to accept the fact that we are not holding a hard copy of something that gives us a sense of security.
Thanks. Sorry that you have to take so much bashing. hahaha
Posted by: Anom | Nov 3, 2008 11:57:30 AM
you are kidding right?
- printer
what are you going to print tickets for online events on? Or are you going to spend the extra $10 to have them mailed to you? Not to mention a lot of print-this-coupon to save on parking etc.
- scanner
this really depends from your situation, but personally by scanning in all my old negatives it has already paid for itself
- built in optical drives
what are you going to watch dvds on the plane with? what are you going to do if you are travelling abroad and a coworker brings you a cd/dvd with some data you need for your project?
- fax machines
I take you haven't ever had to deal with certain universities or government offices that insist on using faxes to send/receive forms/authorizations
- landline
my cell cannot get a $15/month unlimited north america + 1000 minutes international, I get 1 bar (barely) reception at home, I have a base station with 3-4 cordless phones around the house in different rooms, when the power goes out and you need to make that call and you forgot to charge your cell when you got home what are you going to do?
Posted by: MM | Nov 3, 2008 11:57:31 AM
landline phones are a must if you have kids. yes, even if they have their own cell phones. there is still a need for someone to be able to contact whomever is at the house, and a need for reliable emergency service. especially if you have a family share plan and all of your cell phones are from the same provider: they tend to all fail at the same time.
Posted by: liz | Nov 3, 2008 11:58:36 AM
I completely disagree on the optical drives, in netbooks you have a limited amount of space so running a live OS off of a CD is the best thing you can do to save space on your laptop.
Posted by: Mike | Nov 3, 2008 11:59:42 AM
I normally like Wired articles but to me this is just intended to get everyone up in a frenzy and reading (just like I'm doing). The only one I really agree with is fax machines. I hate the idea of fax and refuse to own one. Printers are still useful for that last minute printout for various different occasions. Optical media? You've got to be kidding me, it's still very much necessary if you like to burn cd's for the car or as someone else pointed out "make backups". Cell phones sound great on paper by themselves until you live in an area with poor reception. Personally, I love my vonage line which rings both my cell and house phone at the same time so as long as I get a call to that number, I should never miss a call. Scanners I'm still on the fence about. I don't own one but I think some people looking to digitize old photos may appreciate the convenience and reasonable cost. Alot better than driving somewhere or having to send your precious photos elsewhere.
Posted by: Matt | Nov 3, 2008 12:01:12 PM
I want to make the case that flash drives have become useless. I understand you can run programs of flash drives, but who is really doing that. and if you are that person you probably have a smart phone that can store the program. either way I feel like the majority of the people just use flash drives for documents and photos. all of that can be stored on the internet, either in email or google docs. that way you don't have to be that guy with the flash drive hanging from your neck or key chain.
Posted by: johnny | Nov 3, 2008 12:04:51 PM
How about the bicycle? It's costly, it's not terribly efficient in the long run, and good walking shoes are cheaper, not to mention less likely to get stolen.
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Yes, I am joking. But I'm curious as to why you think people don't need a printer, since, er, people still need paper documents for a wide variety of reasons. You write, you know you need hard copy sometimes. Also, digital copy isn't necessarily awesome for things like travel reservations, etc. It's good to have a hard record, sometimes.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 3, 2008 12:04:54 PM
that was a really fucking retarded post. has he ever heard of students? tons of kids still need printers!
Posted by: Jerome | Nov 3, 2008 12:07:13 PM
Besides the points about landlines being good for emergencies, guess what? There are still places in this country where cell phones DO NOT work - no towers close enough.
and my house is one of them!
Posted by: s lee | Nov 3, 2008 12:08:38 PM
You guys sound like the first half of an infomercial.
"Using a camera for digitization is frustrating! You have to have light and everything. Then there's the glare! Golly, what can I do with this piece of paper I want on the computer and this extra $150?"
I figured out the real problem. People aren't complaining about your suggestions, they just don't want to learn how to play a video game without a DVD drive.
Posted by: Jeff | Nov 3, 2008 12:09:44 PM
If we get rid of landline phones then we will never escape the matrix!! :O
Posted by: Matthew | Nov 3, 2008 12:11:04 PM
I couldn't agree more to the list..! I've ditched fax, landline and printer a long time ago, and if Apple would only produce a MacBook (not air) without optical drive, I'd choose it in a heartbeat.. Still haven't scanned all my old childhood photos yet, so I have to keep the scanner for now.. I have to admit I wish I had a good fast printer every once in a while, but I don't want to pay for it, and I don't want it taking up space..
Posted by: Benjamin A. Wendelboe | Nov 3, 2008 12:11:22 PM
Don't have a cell fone, so can't ditch the land line. Got wireless tv, though.
Posted by: Zebulon | Nov 3, 2008 12:19:56 PM
Kev Orng: Thanks for your comment about my comment. I've had several jobs (guess my age is showing), and not a single one where using their equipment was one of my job perks. Guess you're one of the lucky ones.
Posted by: melB | Nov 3, 2008 12:22:40 PM
This article is kinda stupid. I stopped reading after Optical Drives and skimmed the rest.
I'm not a professional anything, but don't try lumping everyone into one or two groups. I like to draw, so the scanner is useful. Anyone who draws needs a scanner. I go to school so the printer is useful, anyone who goes to school needs a printer. I still buy software and movies on DVDs and CDs, as well as back up data, anyone who does this needs an optical drive.
I admit though, I don't fax and I have had a disappointing experiment with landlines...
Still, don't lump everyone up into groups like that. Not everyone can be a super liberal tree hugging freak with an eePC and weird furniture...
Posted by: Hauzer | Nov 3, 2008 12:27:52 PM
"What about coverage? It's true that cellphone coverage in the US is not exactly ubiquitous, but again, if you're out in the sticks with no signal, you're unlikely to find a landline anyway."
If you had proposed ripping up the rural copper and replacing it with cellular and WiMAX towers, I would be with you. To say that the vast rural copper networks don't exist at all is pure bullshit.
Never thought I'd be defending the telcos...
Posted by: Kyle Dobbs | Nov 3, 2008 12:28:57 PM
I agree on the printer, fax machine, and land line. However, I still use the Super Drive in my iMac quite often and I scan receipts so that I can turn them in at work for reimbursement.
I don't know what kind of cell phone y'all use, but my BlackBerry's camera sure isn't good enough to get a good legible shot of a credit card receipt...
Posted by: Ed | Nov 3, 2008 12:29:30 PM
This guy thinks he has all the answers and maybe he does for the work that he does. I agree fax machines are obsolete, but you still need the scanner to send by email which is definately the way to go. In a real live business you need printers and scanners, I wish I could get paid for writing shitty articles....
Posted by: Tracy | Nov 3, 2008 12:32:36 PM
What about Directv's requirement that you have a landline phone for updates?
Posted by: Nic | Nov 3, 2008 12:36:57 PM
Congratulations engadget, we've just reached a new low in article quality. Are you kidding me? Land line service is just as unavailable as cellular coverage? I'm not looking for coverage in some corn field in Wisconsin I need to use the phone in my basement.
CD Drives are useless? Try installing OSX or Vista without an optical drive, let me know how that goes.
How bout being able to see something a bit larger than 320x240? Don't get me wrong the iphone screen is great but for a single sheet of paper why read it on a phone when you could see the whole thing at once?
Get real. Stop posting this stuff. Forget about wasting paper. Stop wasting pixels.
Posted by: Roger | Nov 3, 2008 12:37:23 PM
I use every single gadget on your 'get rid of' list and have none of the toys you indicate as replacements. I have a pay-as-you-go cell for emergencies, a land-line modem for home because I do all my serious net at work. Legal forms still require hard copy printouts and you can get away with a faxed signature until a hard copy is FedExed, at least with my customers.
I agree in principle, but consider how many users still use dialup before you throw away a landline, and I have folks coming out of the woodwork to get older pics scanned and cleaned up because they can't afford commercial rates and I can give them a CD in a half-hour of work.
When articles get unrealistically ahead of the curve, time to find a new source of information for my 'legacy' gadgets.
Posted by: John | Nov 3, 2008 12:37:33 PM
Wow.
Maybe "Wired" should change its name to "Wireless Douchebags".
Seriously. Anyone with any hobbies other than yacking to their a-hole friends needs a printer now and then.
Plus, why would anyone get rid of a solid, reliable, cheap land line, and sign up for an endless cellphone upgrade cycle? Really? Why buy some $200 phone and pay $50 per month or whatever it is, for ever, for some gimmicky gadget you'll probably lose or drop in the toilet and ruin? So you can stand around yacking on it, trying to look important?
This "I'm cool and I like to pay hundreds of dollars for this shit and look down upon losers like you" attitude really annoys me. Bugger off.
Posted by: Keith | Nov 3, 2008 12:38:00 PM
Well, you need a scanner if you're going to do a SERIOUS job of scanning documents (i.e. scanning your old photos or doing OCR).
And about printing, I'm yet to find a better reading medium than paper (doesn't need batteries or power, doesn't get obsolete, can last 100+ years if kept properly, can be recycled... sometimes low-tech is great).
Posted by: renan | Nov 3, 2008 12:38:07 PM
YET ANOTHER bullshit Wired article. Every device mentioned has a purpose in the modern office.
Or am I just taking the BS bait, created to solicit comments and sell ad-space?
Posted by: What? | Nov 3, 2008 12:39:44 PM
Wired articles have been full of mistakes and errors of the most ridiculous kinds for as long as I can remember... but lately they're just getting more and more deliberately stupid. Example: this one.
Posted by: wtf? | Nov 3, 2008 12:48:10 PM
That once-white yellow CRT you KNOW you have in your closet or your basement.
Posted by: Kallan | Nov 3, 2008 12:48:35 PM
You only increased the number of steps one needs to take to do stuff. No land-line might be the only simplification.
I'd much rather put pages in a sheet feeder, dial the number and fax the docs.
I'd much rather have the ROM than be without it when I need it, and you will need it.
I'd much rather be able to print that receipt for that pesky mail in rebate from home than take the time to go somewhere else that will allow me to do it.
So, get your 4 in 1 print, fax, scan, etc. dump your other single function devices, keep the ROM, and if you can sleep well at night without the land-line then by all means ditch it. Otherwise, if you will worry once you leave the kids at home and can't enjoy your evening out then forget that advice too.
Posted by: gfreak | Nov 3, 2008 12:49:23 PM
No, you got it right, anyone who actually conducts business will need all or many of these things on a regular basis. What a load of crap this article is.
Posted by: Slownewsday | Nov 3, 2008 12:50:44 PM
I don't know why but I felt offended by this article. Why do people insist on being so condescending these days? Whatever happened to politeness and the the power of true analysis. Its fine when one person outgrows a certain piece of equipment but to suggest that everyone else who might still find some use in that piece of equipment is somehow lacking in intellect is really uncalled for. I feel that articles like this should be censured for their tone before making it to the website. This whole trend of belittling others needs to stop.
Wired, in general, is one of my most trusted sources for tech news, so when I see a narrow-minded article like this it irks me because I start reading it with the expectation of obtaining real information but instead am bombarded by useless, unthoughtful opinion. I feel that on a slow tech news day Wired should opt to have a few less headlines and keep such rubbish off its pages!
Posted by: Naagz | Nov 3, 2008 12:52:15 PM
No! I'm never getting rid of my 100MB SCSI Zip Drive that I bought in 1997 and you can't make me!!!!
Posted by: Jack Burton | Nov 3, 2008 12:53:56 PM
Charlie, you've got to do something about that condescending tone. Seriously. Practice until you've worked it out of your system. I promise you'll be a better writer.
Until everyone in every meeting I attend at work comes with some kind of viewing screen with instant access to whatever I am "handing out" for review, I will need hard copies. I expect this holds true for just about anybody who works in an office environment and has to meet with people. And that's just one good reason to keep the printer.
I don't use the printer as much at home, but it's certainly not useless. Kind of like the wire whisk in the utensil drawer. You don't get it out every day, but when you need it it's sure nice to have one.
I might lose the landline when a cell phone is finally a better value than the $30 a month I pay for unlimited use and no contract. And the landline comes with the added benefit of freedom. You're so attached to your cell phone that you can't think of what you'd do without it. I assure you that you can live just fine without one, plus you'll have more time to think of great new articles to write.
Fax machine--no, I don't need one at home. I've never had one, so I don't need to throw it away. And I hate it when faxing is the only option.
I bought a scanner so I could draw on paper and scan it in and play with it in Photoshop. It's another tool like the wire whisk. Why throw it out? My grandparents kept many photos that are extremely valuable to us. Being able to scan them is a great way to preserve them. Sure, I could send them to a digitizing service, but what for when I can do it myself for less money?
You apparently don't have anything non-digital in your life. I'll admit that sounds like a very uncluttered way to live. I wish I had the balls to throw away everything that didn't fit on my iPhone somehow. I could carry my whole life with me on the subway.
Posted by: afr | Nov 3, 2008 12:55:50 PM
CD/DVD ROM's of corse they are needed.
I have a very high end cellphone and guess what, it came with a CD with interface programs and drivers. (big tech talk)These are not avalible online. How else are you to get software on to your PC (Personal Confuser)
Next you will list card readers as useless
Posted by: gwilo | Nov 3, 2008 12:58:34 PM
So the author is a Millennial? someone so young and self interested that if they don't need it, surely no else does either.
I guess the interns have taken over the Wired Asylum.
Posted by: VultureTX | Nov 3, 2008 12:59:32 PM
Although arguments can be made for both sides, it seems about half of you who commented how you work in 'X' office and use these things every day COMPLETELY missed this line:
"First, an anti hate-mail caveat: Some of this kit is still useful in a professional context. If you use this stuff every day, you know who you are - please don't write in."
You read as well as you think the author writes.
Posted by: doug | Nov 3, 2008 1:02:59 PM
Geez, why are so many people offended and wigged out over this article? If Charlie needs to be less condescending perhaps the internet community needs to be a little less sensitive. It seems pretty obvious to me that while these are Charlie's opinions, they're also a little tongue in cheek.
If you need a printer use a printer. There's no reason to get yourself all worked up because someone else thinks they're useless. Relax.
Posted by: Jack Burton | Nov 3, 2008 1:03:51 PM
"unless you're in tje sticks with no signal, you're unlikely to find a landline anyway."
Hey - I happen to live in a fairly large suburb outside of Boston and I cannot get any signal inside my house at all. I have to stand in the middle of my front lawn to get a signal, and I'm definitely not in the sticks.
Even if you work in the trendiest of companies that has gotten rid of all of these devices, you still have to interface with vendors that haven't. My plumber faxes me his invoices. Lawyers send me print copies of contracts to sign, which I then have to fax back. Sometimes I get graphics which I need to retouch, but do not have access to the source files. When I hire someone and fill out an I-9, I have to either A) make a copy of their driver's license and fax it to HR, or B) SCAN their driver's license and email it to HR. Regardless, this writer needs to move out of his mom's basement and go try working in a corporation and he'll see how out of touch he is with the rest of the world.
And hopefully, Wired editors will read all of these comments and figure out that they shouldn't pay for such poorly researched articles.
Posted by: WiredUsedToWriteArticlesOfSubstance | Nov 3, 2008 1:06:43 PM
What a quaint little Human 2.0 list. I am more amused than offended by the pompous chuck that wrote the piece.
It's obvious that the author has rarely ventured outside of the USA where human interaction and paper documents still are important.
Landlines are cheap insurance for emergencies and when my VOIP phone doesn't work.
I don't own a cellphone because I can always borrow someone's to use it - even strangers like pompous author, and I'm not into the the governmnent tracking me using the phone's GPS.
I use printers because I like to have easy access to my boarding passes and to print articles for my neighbors who don't own computers.
As far as fax machines, it is obvious that the author has rarely ventured outside of the USA where paper documents still are important.
I am currently using my scanner to archive over 1000 priceless photos my grandparent's gave me that were taken from 1910-1955.
Someone send me the author's address so I can snail-mail him some nappies to wipe the wetness behind his ears.
Posted by: Ramalaka | Nov 3, 2008 1:07:12 PM
Did any of you, with too much time on your hands, read the disclaimer at the beginning? He said, that if you use these items everyday, you know who you are and it doesn't apply to you. I cannot believe how worked up you are all getting about something so trivial. Read it, laugh and move on. Also, for all of you who try to act intelligent, try spelling words correctly... it adds to your credibility.
Posted by: WhatsWrong WithYouPeople | Nov 3, 2008 1:08:34 PM
"No! I'm never getting rid of my 100MB SCSI Zip Drive that I bought in 1997 and you can't make me!!!!
Posted by: Jack Burton | Nov 3, 2008 12:53:56 PM
"
Is it bad that I only got rid of my 1996 model a few months ago?
I packaged it up with an explanation and all the disks and cables and donated it to one of those thrift stores. Surely someone will buy it and put it to good use.
Posted by: Kev Orng | Nov 3, 2008 1:09:47 PM
That is it Wired. I'm tired of all your bullshit articles, shitty editing, and horrible writing that comes to the top of your feed. You have lost all forms of journalistic integrity and talent, and I am just done with all of it. Fuck you all, I'm going home
Posted by: Scott | Nov 3, 2008 1:09:59 PM
so, up until 9 months ago, i would have agreed with you about the printer. but that was when we put down some significant cash for a wireless all-in-one color laser printer, and we havent looked back. in fact, at least once a week my husband or i say, "have i told you how much i love our printer?" we print movie tickets, boarding passes, and stack hundreds of pages of personal files that scan straight to pdf. and the one job that really made it all worthwhile? digitizing all my doctoral research materials, especially out-of-print stuff.
oh, and i still want a landline number i can give to people who i dont want calling my mobile! the ability to screen landline calls more effectively than on a cellphone (with caller id) is nice too. and vonage will email you .wav files of your voicemails as they come in. cant beat that.
Posted by: phd student | Nov 3, 2008 1:10:36 PM
doug:
I read the caveat, but I took exception to it. There are far too many printer users in all kinds of office environments for that caveat to represent just a small slice of Wired readers.
Jack:
Why post the article at all, other than to invite comments? This is the internet. That's what we do here. And we've all been around long enough to know BS when we see it, and we call it out. Do you really expect anything else?
Posted by: afr | Nov 3, 2008 1:11:30 PM
I'm very disappointed that this article said nothing about recycling. Those pieces of hardware have materials that are harmful to the environment if not properly disposed. Also, why not talk about how the items can be reused? IMO a short mention of sending these things to the thrift store isn't really sufficient.
Posted by: Wendy | Nov 3, 2008 1:14:47 PM
What about books?!
Spouses?! (Er... wait a sec...)
Posted by: Franklin Tooth | Nov 3, 2008 1:15:26 PM
I'm really surprised by the number of people that feel like they can't go without thier optical drives. You've got to be kidding me. The ONLY reason to have one is to install software. And the ONLY reason for that is becuase some software manufacturers still distribute their stuff by cd or dvd. But they really don't have to. More are doing it via internet. For back up usb thumb drives are smaller, faster and hold much more data than 100 meg zip drives ever did. Plus you can easily encrypt the data on a thumb drive if you need that. Its a bit more of a pain on a cd, dvd, or even a zip drive. (I can't believe some one still has one of those things. Ok, no one will take away your zip drive. But holy cow, put 2 Gigs in your pocket before you make your allegiances...)
Posted by: interval | Nov 3, 2008 1:16:43 PM
definitely good food for thought, but $20 for a decent external USB burner? not likely.
Posted by: spundot.com | Nov 3, 2008 1:18:15 PM
yep, more crap from wired - these guys just like to hear themselves talk regardless of quality.
Landlines? The crappy cell-phone-only people who call me are a pain in the ass to hear and communicate with. I often tell them to call me back when the get to a "real" phone. If I had a way to not take their calls when they called me with their cell phones I would block them all. It comes down to the cell-phone only people are so used to crap they don't even know what a quality land line phone sounds like. Sort of like the crappy writing that we get from wired these days. The bar is so low that crap seems good.
Posted by: scott | Nov 3, 2008 1:20:04 PM
He is obviously an apple shill. if apple don't make it, you don't need it.
Posted by: brian | Nov 3, 2008 1:20:26 PM
Nah man, I still need my printer. And cellphones are TOO small to read text. TO hell with that. I need a printer to print directions, print letters I have to mail, etc. If that's old fashioned, then so be it.
Posted by: Mzars | Nov 3, 2008 1:27:58 PM
While I would agree that these devices are minimally useful, I can't say they're entirely ready for the scrapheap yet. My landline is a needed component for my security system; in the event of a fire or someone breaking in, it calls my service provider and they dispatch the appropriate entity. Without the phone, it's just a loud beeping noise, and who knows if one of the neighbors will be home and actually call someone.
Unfortunately, I need to keep the printer around for the handful of times where I absolutely must print stuff (such as tickets from Ticketmaster, or mail in rebate forms). In theory, I could ditch the printer and just use the one at work, but I just buy the cheapest printer available and almost never use it. When I run out of ink, I buy another $20 printer, since it's cheaper than the ink.
Posted by: Michael Thompson | Nov 3, 2008 1:29:18 PM
So, my bank lets me deposit checks online with my scanner. Untill checks are compleatly obsolete (which will take a while), I, for one will still use my scanner. As for printing, I like being able to have a hard copy of something in a couple of minutes as opposed to relying on some outside service.
Posted by: BG | Nov 3, 2008 1:29:20 PM
Charlie, you are an idiot.
Posted by: Pete | Nov 3, 2008 1:29:58 PM
Me too, I can't live without my printer. Reading from the conmputer, it just hurts my eyes. I hate screens. Sometimes I even print out code to debug.
Posted by: Kroms | Nov 3, 2008 1:31:16 PM
This isn't a very good list.
Printer: Just the fact that most job interviewers expect you to hand them a hard copy of your resume alone is enough reason to have this. Also factor in things like printed maps. (Sure, GPS is great, but sometimes you can't connect to the damn sattelite. Ditto on trying to google directions while you're standing in a subway station.) Then there's things like papers, fliers, etc. Sure, you probably don't use your printer all that OFTEN, and I'd advise against getting an expensive one for most people, but it's still a good thing to have.
Scanner & Fax: These both fall under the "almost never used, but great to have on the rare occasion you need them" category. If you already have them, I wouldn't toss them, but I also wouldn't recommend buying them unless you know they're going to be used at least occasionally.
Landline phones: If you're lucky enough to live in an area where cell phone reception can be counted on, then yeah, you can ditch this as ancient tech. Unfortunately, if you're stuck in a rural area where you simply can't count on your cell phone actually ringing when someone calls it, you're still going to need that land line.
Optical drives: I agree that DVDs are a pretty crappy means of doing backups - back up the critical stuff to a flash drive, dump the rest on an external. You'll probably still going to be installing stuff from disc fairly often though (especially if you're a gamer), so I wouldn't ditch the drive. Likewise, just because YOU carry a flash drive around doesn't mean all your coworkers do, and when someone hands you a disc, it's still reasonable to expect that you can read its contents.
Posted by: Trerro | Nov 3, 2008 1:39:35 PM
Let me continue this article for you...
Clothing
Let's face it. Buying clothing every few months is a hassle. And then there's all the clothes washing that is causing global warming! Save the planet (and send some love to Mr. Gore) - get rid of all your clothing! Besides, mother nature gave us skin for a reason.
Shelter
We all know the mantra: "Shelter is a requirement for life." What? A "requirement?" I think not! And besides, it costs so much money that could be better used to give to the Obama campaign so he can become our sav... I mean president and stop global warming.
Electricity
Now this might anger some people but just hear me out. Now imagine if we had no electricity. Would the world stop? Would you stop breathing? No! So is it really necessary?
I love the logic. :P
Posted by: Gewburr | Nov 3, 2008 1:42:00 PM
I have to agree with the fax thing. I run a home business and absolutley hate having to use a fax machine. It is archaic technology that needs to go the way of the dodo. Unfortunately I am forced to use a fax because many of my suppliers have not come into the 21st century of e-mail. All my invoices have to be faxed, all my orders have to be faxed. Bleh. But as far as the other things, I cannot live without my landline AND my cell (my cell bill would be outrageous if I used it exclusively, and I have a dsl package), I use my laser scanner/copier/fax a lot, and not just for business. I had to print out a shipping label for a friend to return his xbox 360 (red ring of death) because he didn't have a printer. And doing away with the built in optical drive is just dumb for reasons listed above. Ever heard of backing up sensitive data?
Posted by: Gravdigr | Nov 3, 2008 1:49:13 PM
I could make a similar argument: "Because all-electric cars exist, you're an idiot if you're driving a gas car. But if you need to drive a gas car, this doesn't apply to you."
Faxes: Legal signatures on documents.
Land-lines: Lack of cell phone coverage, even in the suburbs where I live.
Printers: Submitting stuff to people that can't be bothered to learn how to start their PC. (If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you won't understand)
CD/DVD: How much of the software sold in stores have you seen available for download purchase? And an archive DVD is far less likely to fail than an HD.
Posted by: Jeramie | Nov 3, 2008 1:56:24 PM
scanners!!! sha right!
try doing 2d animation without a powerful scanner.
Posted by: dudebrodude | Nov 3, 2008 1:56:41 PM
Right! Unless you live in the sticks or in a place VOIP services do not have local numbers for. (I have places in both rural Hawaii and Alaska)
Posted by: adam | Nov 3, 2008 2:00:44 PM
This all sounds great. As great as rolling around in thumbtacks and diving in a swimming pool of sulfuric acid.
Moron - while YOU may not use these devices much, there are those who still do. Eat a bag of shit, you suck.
Posted by: jdog | Nov 3, 2008 2:02:34 PM
I love that people complain so much, yet they read the entire article.
I loved it. It was funny, oh so true. Plus it made me think of things that I hadn't thought of before. No, I'm not running home to throw everything away. It's entertainment people. Geez
Good article Charlie.... I still hate you for working from your bed though...
Posted by: Myke | Nov 3, 2008 2:02:37 PM
Okay, apart from the fax machine, that was rubbish. I was going to elaborate on a detailed takedown of exactly why it was rubbish, but then I couldn't be bothered.
Posted by: Ben D | Nov 3, 2008 2:07:16 PM
This article was a waste of time... when was the last time I sent a signed contract as an email? Hmmm... barely ever. I have a few times, when I've scanned it, printed out a copy for physical records and sent a PDF but still ended up faxing it due to a legal department wanting the timestamp from the fax headers. And I can't get unlimited calling for $25/mo other than on a landline.
Posted by: jeremy | Nov 3, 2008 2:09:28 PM
This is the most pointless article I've read in Wired. And I've been a Wired reader for at least 12 years. Fvckwad.
Posted by: jack Hawkins | Nov 3, 2008 2:13:25 PM
Many people have already commented but this is such a silly list that i have to add my own 2 cents.
First Charlie does make a caveat about how some of the stuff is useful in a professional context... A professional context is primarily the reason why most people would have and use at least 2 out of the 5 in the list but regardless taking that into consideration:
1) Printers. Seems like the assumption is that this is primarily used to print photos which I don't know many people who do that anymore. Most printers I've seen used for personal use cannot be replaced. Also some documents are important enough to have and keep in a safebox.
Printing articles - besides being easier to read and mark up, it's also something you can do while traveling. It also doesn't require a data plan on your cell phone assuming you have a good enough cell phone where you'd WANT to read anything on it besides texts.
Professionally of course there are so many reasons that you need one that there's no way you could do without one.
2) Scanners. As someone else mentioned, these are specialized devices. People who have used them will continue to use them. The people who got scanners as part of 5 in 1 type of printer probably never needed a scanner to begin with.
As for OCR - why would you ever do OCR in a non-professional setting?
As for filing cabinet never being so empty, there are merits and needs for having paper documents. Financial, legal documents, government documents such as title of your vehicle, etc.
Taking a photo with a cameraphone isn't an option. Taking a photo with a digital camera assumes you have one that can take good macro pictures unless you don't care much about resolution of the end product.
3) Built-in Optical Drives. Why not have a built-in optical drive for a desktop? Why clutter the desk with an external drive? Yes in theory you'd put it away when not in use but how realistic is that? It also doesn't add much cost to the machine at purchase to have a built-in drive. It adds more cost to buy an external one.
As for a laptop, some may find it inconvenient but I find it more convenient to have one built in. Having yet another part and wire to keep track of, making sure it doesn't break, storing it and finding it when I do need it is a big hassel especially when traveling.
4) Fax machine is probably the most likely candidate that most people can do without. But it still has a place in people's lives and depending on how often it is used, it can most certainly be a useful gadget indeed. As people mentioned there are really no other way to send legal/financial documents that are accepted. In some cases you'd need to mail in the original anyways but a fax will at least start the process - email or phone call with not.
"Most documents never exist in paper form anyways" true for most documents these days but the ones that need to be faxed need to be in hard copy for a reason.
"why not just quit the office altogether and work, like I do, from the comfort of your bed?" - this assumes a professional setting which the author himself ruled out in the beginning of the article. Also not everyone has that luxury. If you do include home office then everything you listed is pretty much needed except for a minority of professional jobs.
5) Landline phones. Essential for home alarm system which does not fall under the caveat which is for professional context.
Also very nice to have as a backup line. Cell phones are not reliable. Have a bad storm go through your area or an extended black out? Try using your cell phone then. Also not every 911 system can take advantage of the GPS enabled phones immediatley today. Also that feature can be turned off by the user in many of todays phones whether consiously or not.
Cell phone coverage is very spotty in many areas not just rural. Also try driving in those rural areas. If you're on a highway, you'll see emergency phones every so often on the road. You'll be thankful for a landline then. Or at a store you may come across.
As for problem with the brain and remembering numbers. The phenomenon of not being able to remember numbers is actually caused by cell phones. So you could also say help your brain by NOT using a cell phone. If you're also worried about the radiation from the cell phone, a landline can at least alleviate some of that concern. There are also speed dials on most landline phones in case you really don't want to memorize any numbers.
Posted by: Lee | Nov 3, 2008 2:24:35 PM
YES! Let's all go green and ditch all these obsolete devices so they'll add to the growing pile of tech waste sent to third-world countries... And while you're at it, why not buy yourself some new cool tech gear that you'll throw away when it becomes obsolete, that is - when you find something cooler... Go green, go!
Posted by: Mikolaj Kamler | Nov 3, 2008 2:30:22 PM
Revised headline: One Useless Blogger You Should Throw in the Trash Right Now
1. Charlie Sorrel.
Anyone else? Tell me in the comments!
Posted by: Morgan | Nov 3, 2008 2:37:27 PM
I must disagree with every one of these. It's true that some of them are becoming obsolete, but they are far from useless unless you've completely optimized your system and have completely seamless access to your data.
Posted by: Styyl | Nov 3, 2008 2:42:29 PM
This statement "Hard drives are so cheap that backing up to multiple DVDs is pointlessly slow and painful." is tremendously tech-naive. It's something expected from an iPod fanboy more than a tech site like this.
In IT circles, hard drives are NEVER used for long term storage. Removable media is a must and should always be used as *part* of your storage strategy. Even in huge data centers where PBs are kept on disk, offline copies are also kept on tape.
Even if your readers can afford (and correctly configure ) RAID, they need to add offline storage. If DVDs are too small, try Blurays. IT pros use tape silos so you could also try a 4mm tape drive. Tapes have amazing capacity these days.
Speaking of mp3s, the first flaw in the way people are thinking is starting with mp3s. Mp3s have way less information than CDs (CDs have 704 kbps) and you still need to back them up somehow. If you bought the CDs in the first place, you'd have a permanent copy, a jewel box, cover art, and the ability to make an mp3 at 320kbps or an Apple Lossless and not get stuck with a 128kbps that will sound like crap as soon as you plug it into anything bigger than an iPod.
Posted by: Scott | Nov 3, 2008 2:44:55 PM
I keep a landline for 911 calls, mainly so my KIDS can make such a call in the case I'm the one having the emergency! I don't want my 6-yr-old trying to work my Windows Mobile device if I'm laying bleeding on the floor.
Posted by: Mark Landin | Nov 3, 2008 2:48:54 PM
For all those people that enjoy treeless landscapes, piles of used-once paper and plastics discs, I've got news for U, newspapers magazines books, cds,photos( do you actually hang your pictures on a wal?) any support for information you can actually put your hands on is on its way OUT.
Get used to it, don't resist it EMBRACE IT. DIGITIZE IT.
I cannot think of anything more stupid than:
-Write something on a computer( digital)
- Print it out (convert to analog)
- Feed it to a Fax machine that will (crappily) digitize it
- Send it via analog signal thru a land line (wasting bandwidth)
- Fax machine prints it out ( analog) for you to read it on yet another dead tree chunk.
If you want it for later use or doing something like indexing it, you might want to
- Scan it ( digitize it)
-Pass it thru OCR so you can keep it neatly on your HD.
I guess a lot of you are sooo enjoying these processes that you just cannot concede that write-it & email-it might be a better way...
Posted by: Daci | Nov 3, 2008 3:00:02 PM
"Buy a MacBook Air or a netbook and keep a $20 burner around for emergencies."
Only rich idiots can have that kind of ideas, , not everyones able to buy that crap
Posted by: Vomitboy | Nov 3, 2008 3:06:22 PM
well printers are still required if you want to use cupons for stuff & opticle drives are still good but some of the 1st gen acer vista towers only came with sata dvd only drives yet mostly every device manufacture pc mag uses cd rom since its cheap & simple
Posted by: 8675309 | Nov 3, 2008 3:08:49 PM
Just a reminder about Fax Machines - when the 'I love You' virus brought the High Tech world to a stand still the humble fax machine kept the business world moving! Don't even start to think that a virus/worm like that can't happen again. Printers, Land lines, Scanners, and DVD/CD drives may not be needed by you cos if you carry on writing crap like this, you'll be out of work.
Posted by: bob macca | Nov 3, 2008 3:11:40 PM
*facepalm*
Geez people, first rule of the internet is DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
I'd give you 0/10 Charlie but everyone else here gave a 10/10.
"Polemic". It's a word. Look it up in a dictionary. Or if you actually listen to Charlie's gas, Google it.
Posted by: V Tard | Nov 3, 2008 3:12:40 PM
Author = dumb. I personally require my printer, scanner, and disc drive on an almost daily basis, and my parents' business would completely collapse if not for fax. And a cell phone replacing a landline at, say, a restaurant is just dumb.
While *you* may not have uses for all of these devices, many people do. Get over yourself and realize that the entire population is not identical to your sad self.
Posted by: pyrochild | Nov 3, 2008 3:14:52 PM
I think this has been handled pretty well by most commenters. I just have to mention all the industries that aren't up with modern technology, like Real Estate. Kill 20 trees to build it, kill 20 more to buy it. I assume the author is sub-25 and hasn't experienced things like 30 year mortgages and other legal forms where you need original signatures. Last time I tried that on a PDF, all I got was ink on my monitor.
Posted by: SteveD | Nov 3, 2008 3:18:52 PM
As Buster and Paul pointed out, us creative professionals still need to print and scan in-house. I will concede however that when appropriate I do simply snap a photo.
As far as the optical drive goes, I'm nowhere near ready to ditch that badboy. Still plenty useful for this MaximumPC-subscribing geek.
Posted by: kylewbaker | Nov 3, 2008 3:20:07 PM
Printers - Obviously the author has never purchased an e-ticket before. The last few events I've gone to required me to print out a PDF that was sent to me, which acted as my ticket for said events. Same goes for directions, for those of us who don't have GPS or a cell ;)
Optical Drives - Sometimes people want to burn a DVD-R for use in a home theater... not totally useless. For a laptop maybe, but not for home use.
Landline - Completely disagree. not everyone lives in a building with good reception, which will make life HELL if you only have a cell phone.
I keep myself on my toes by memorizing all my important numbers (what happens if your cell dies and you need to phone someone?), and thus don't rely on a contact list... to do so is just asking for trouble. Life is perfectly good with just a landline, just like it was for the majority of the world back in 2002.
Posted by: terry | Nov 3, 2008 3:21:30 PM
perhaps unlike some people, i actually use my scanner (digitizing family materials), my old HP LaserJets (cheap to buy & run) and my DVD-ROM (to watch movies checked out of the library)
but after being led into yet another shallow Wired article by a headline tease, i've now got one thing i can throw away that will save me a lot of time
Posted by: garbanzito | Nov 3, 2008 3:31:15 PM
Some of us aren't sure if love is one of the things charlie sorrel can do without, so keep sending it with gusto, just in case.
Posted by: Land Shark | Nov 3, 2008 3:37:53 PM
I totally agree with this article. I do have a dvd-r but thats because my laptop is 3 years old.
Posted by: jase | Nov 3, 2008 3:42:04 PM
Yea...personally the only thing I see on that list as a MAYBE agree is landline...but I live in a state where cell phone coverage SUCKS, but unlike what the author says you can get a landline in those spots (Montana if you're curious). I use my printer and scanner everyday. My printer for documents and such (hey, I run a business and needs forms and such) and my scanner I use to scan all my paper statements from various companies so I can shred those paper copies (and before you say I should opt for digital copies then...half the companies that send me statements aren't set up for email statements). I use my CD/DVD-ROM everyday as well. Last time I checked, games and software still come on media discs. Also I hook up my laptop to my TV to watch movies. Fax machine...again a must for my business to keep track of things. Land Line phone I only have for the fax machine, but not for day to day calling. I'll tell you what is the most USELESS thing in my house and that is a bread maker.
Posted by: TheDock22 | Nov 3, 2008 3:43:55 PM
Best use for scanner/printer combo:
Instant home copier.
Also, printing out online coupons.
(I also use my scanner for art, but that's beside the point.)
Besides, I purchased mine as a student (when I needed them every day) and they've both made it through nearly a decade just fine.
Posted by: EJ | Nov 3, 2008 5:15:33 PM
Charlie -- wow, you're pretty consistent in having a view of the world that about as wide as your iPhone screen. Students and teachers and people who work for a living in white collar jobs print stuff out all the time. A 8.5 x 11 is still best for reading rather than the tiny screen on a cell phone or laptop. No, cameras and cell phones don't do as good a job at digitizing a document as scanners do. Optical drives -- like I'm going to distribute weddings I video on what, Vimeo? For archive and distribution, optical media is a lot more reliable than a thumb drive. Locating your cell phone accurately -- at least with Sprint that doesn't happen often. The last time I had a landline connection break up on me was, uh, NEVER. You must be off your meds.
Posted by: Sedulous | Nov 3, 2008 5:58:01 PM
I agree with printers and scanners being useless. Use your local library; we are always glad to help.
Posted by: pjkwik | Nov 3, 2008 6:54:11 PM
God you're clueless. This list is ridiculous and doesn't reflect reality what-so-ever.
Printers: This is just mind-dumbingly stupid. I am not sure you know this, but the hundreds of millions of people that use an Office suite kinda use it for things they then print. As a student I print every day, as would most people that you know, have a job, and need things printed work? Not to mention the millions of home uses I can think of for a printer. I'm sorry, but you fail right here.
Scanners: Saying cameras and mobile phones have replaced scanners is like saying soup cans have replaced frying pans. Do you even know what a scanner does? Hint: It's in the name.
Built-in Optical Drives: Oh, so all those disc back-ups and installers are useless junk. Check. That explains why my computer has been working all this time when all I was after was the "No operating system found" message.
Faxes: You've never had a job, have you? I don't know about Wired, where you probably beam things straight into your head implant, but in the real world we, especially those of us that arebusiness-oriented, fax.
Landline: So, next time I'm hiding under my bed from burglars I should politely ask them to lend me their mobile phones. Yup. Not to mention my ADSL connection, why should I stick with that when only for ten times the price I can get a sixth of the limit at a twelvth of the speed.
Please don't comment on things you appear to have no knowledge of.
Posted by: Me | Nov 3, 2008 7:06:37 PM
Can't believe the aggression in some of these comments. Calm down everyone - It's just an opinion piece!
Personally, I hardly ever use my printer/scanner/copier. The optical drives on my computers get used once a month at most. The ones in the DVD player and games console get used daily though. Never owned a fax - never needed one The landline is staying because I can't get naked DSL and it's cheaper anyway (and sometimes you do want to call a house and not a particular person).
Posted by: Geoff | Nov 3, 2008 7:23:40 PM
I guess everyone who uses internet phones and cell phones exclusively does not live in areas that have power outages for a few days at a time after storms (the internet phone is dead and the cell phones are too busy you can't make calls and then the batteries die out) 911 service is very nice to have in an emergency during a power outage. Even seattle had a widespread outage (500,000 customers) for several days a few years ago because of wind)
Emailing pictures is fine although it takes awhile w/ broadband and many providers limit to 15MB per email (plus people in other countries with dialup can't go down and pick them up at a local store - CD/DVD burner is a must) I also install lots of different programs - plus use a bootable CD for some diagnostic tools as well as install OS (and add windows components on windows machines)
I print many reports and documents that need to be submitted in person or by snail mail. I also print etickets whenever I'm flying somewhere or going to an event (coupons too) I also have to use a fax to send documents (a prescription to canadian pharmacy for my dad, overseas for payment for tours or reservations - which need either a copy of the prescription or original signature / charge card number) I do admit I do not have a dedicated fax machine - I have software to fax from my computer using my scanner
Also when I need something scanned I need it then - cheaper to have the scanner than to run down to kinkos to scan something - takes time and gas money (plus I sometimes need something at 2AM and kinkos isn't open then)
Maybe the crappy economy is because companies pay for extremely poor quality items such as this article. If they didn't pay for garbage like this, then maybe they could occasionally get a good article once in awhile.
Posted by: Me | Nov 3, 2008 10:29:28 PM
you make another funny, o affluent tech-trend-consuming Wired douchebag who thinks everybody else lives exactly like him. i'm shot.
Posted by: eurobeaver | Nov 4, 2008 2:06:03 AM
THIS AUTHOR MERELY MADE CRAP UP TO WRITE ABOUT--MANY OF THE ITEMS ARE USEFUL. IDIOT.
Posted by: brown | Nov 4, 2008 2:35:32 AM
The writer evidently wasn't in Northeast USA or Ontario during the great blackout of 2003. Mobile phones were completely useless, since the networks were down. But the basic handset on a humble landline allowed us to stay in touch.
Posted by: Thom | Nov 4, 2008 3:30:58 AM
Well it got me thinking about what i `could` get rid of/dont need. I dont have a seperate FAX as i can use my 3in1 printer and a fax prog` on my computer.Have/need landline for broadband as i dont live in an urban area with free sites and get my cable tv through it.
Optical drives will go as solid state drives take off and the like of SD cards replace CDs and we download instead. Maybe in five-ten years your way will be the norm?
Thanks for getting us thinking about the multi uses of the `rubbish` we`ve got ;-)
Posted by: Rob | Nov 4, 2008 4:16:47 AM
Ah, yet another "crap we don't need" article written by some technoletist living far enough away from most people that they've lost touch.
Even though you may live in a city where money apparently flows like water and everybody's running around with an IPhone, most Americans still live in the suburbs and country, where plopping down a pile of cash for an uberphone and pay to print services is a little hard to justify.
In my neck of the woods, which isn't actually woods but just off the capital of Minnesota, so keep the redneck jokes to yourself, most people I see use phones with no more advanced features than a camera, most people use printers with great frequency, everybody uses disk drives, and a great many people prefer film because the quality is a lot better than anything they could ever get from the digital cameras in their price range.
Simply put, most people still need the things that you find so useless in your little high-tech bubble.
Posted by: Reverend Tom | Nov 4, 2008 7:23:29 AM
Okay, I'm over 50 (barely), but I still want access to all the things mentioned. On Disability, I can't afford the cell phones, Iphones, etc. I can get unlimited calling in the U.S. (with Call Notes and all the other options) PLUS high speed DSL for $89.00 a month. And since I don't have a vehicle to drive, I can't make it to copying and photo shops either. If the writer wants to supplement my monthly income, I'll consider it. Please replace Charlie with someone who doesn't have his (or mayber a her) head in the clouds. Obviously, his pay is much too high for his IQ.
Posted by: SnowStorm | Nov 4, 2008 7:33:29 AM
I don't have a cell phone, and I use scanners almost daily in my line of work.
Posted by: Gordon | Nov 4, 2008 9:06:56 AM
Just more tripe from WIRED.
How do these types of nonsensical diatribes get published under the name of what used to be a respected publication?
Posted by: luigi | Nov 4, 2008 9:23:46 AM
seriously...i've taken dumps that make more sense than this. Printers? 90% of ticket you buy thse days (plane, concert, movie, you name it) can be printed with a lot less hassle and waiting in line than the alternative and with lasers getting cheaper cost of ownership is down. Optical drives are absolutely necessary until we all get 50MB/s broadband everywhere in the world...you knwo what i dont even feel like thinking any more about this response because its clear the author didn't think about the post
Posted by: james | Nov 4, 2008 9:29:40 AM
Most contemporary installations of land lines will also not work in blackouts or other emergency situations because of changes in the way digital switching is now managed by the local telcos. You are not guaranteed a connection via landline if your service has been installed or upgraded in the last few years, so good luck.
Posted by: telcogeek | Nov 4, 2008 10:24:00 AM
Yeah, throw 'em all out - as long as you have easy access to them somewhere. Hell, when I TA'ed in college (earning $14K/yr) I didn't have my own PC, because I had ready access to $5K machines in my office.
If you've got easy access to all this stuff at the office, just dump it out of the house, let work take the hit on maintenance, replacement and working space.
Oh, and the landline - if you've got decent cell coverage in your house - go for it. Personally, we get a better unlimited long distance deal on the landline, so we keep it for that and keep our cellular contracts down to the cheap-o 600 minute per month plan (yes, the wife talks more than 600 minutes per month across the country.)
Posted by: Joe | Nov 4, 2008 11:48:35 AM
Office Space scene.
Posted by: joshitoshi | Nov 4, 2008 12:39:41 PM
Yeah, I want to read documents on a phone. You "get over it" moron. I will print them out, and read comfortably.
Posted by: Rich | Nov 4, 2008 1:35:24 PM
My Laptop is the best DVD Video player I have, and I find ripping my CDs to be much preferrable to not having any music, as I don't have a Credit Card for iTunes or anything. I hate this article.
Posted by: Occono | Nov 4, 2008 1:49:00 PM
When Wired writes an article this bad, and then sees the response to it, they should just take it down, or put a little apology at the top. You should apologize for this piece of shit article, Wired. Bad Wired! Bad!
Posted by: Derek | Nov 4, 2008 4:26:52 PM
What a ridiculous list, these technologies are still very commonly used for good reason – 5 USELESS gadgets? Which part of the US (there are no other countries) do you live in?
1) Printers, I need to print a document to sign, to hand in assignment work, send checklists, take documents to a board meeting, etc…
2) Scanners: I need to send a signed a document (how else to you get signed PDF’s?). Oh, everyone has a Wacom tablet?
3) Fax: many companies require facsimiles – try working with government departments where you don’t have a person’s direct e-mail account. And if you do, you still need the aforementioned scanner to scan in the document (unless perhaps you’re exceptionally good at getting photos of documents in perfect scale. This also assumes everyone owns a copy of photoshop).
4) Landline phones: ADSL2+ is still damn useful! Not every location in every country can use wireless, nor can it match the speed. A lot of countries still only have dial-up. What about under sea cables for dedicated connections? Yes, lets just pull up all the land lines in the world because they are less useful than say – a binary digital watch.
5) Optical drives: no-one burns a DVD to watch on a DVD player? or even use the DVD player to watch movies on a PC/laptop? – not every home can spend thousands on a home theatre system with full networking!
Posted by: Xiaowei1 | Nov 4, 2008 8:07:46 PM
Yea I agree with most above,
JD TR BOB xman, I belive you are crazy to get rid of good devices. As for optical? I still use my trusty IDE DVD burner! As mentioned above, anyone needs to be able to install programs via CD/DVD. Wired should check over articles before publishing... Then writers won't get paid for wasted space. I can't get paid as a tech till the good is done correctly...
Posted by: Shaggy | Nov 5, 2008 9:26:38 AM
guys. come to think of this. the name of this website is WIRED. if this writer thinks that these gadgets are obsolete, why didnt he think about that being WIRED is actually obsolete? the keyword of today's generation is WIRELESS.
Posted by: podomingsky | Nov 5, 2008 1:23:38 PM
seriously ?
get back in touch with the true "average joe"
Posted by: wj | Nov 7, 2008 1:55:23 PM
Proving once again that any yob with a blog can write whatever idiocy they want.
Posted by: El Gaupo | Nov 8, 2008 2:13:41 PM
I haven't had any of the named products in over two years. I haven't used a personal printer for over four years. Also, I work for a national company and they have implemented unique ways to save on printing--such as printing on two sides (no choice, you must use two sided printed), disabling color printing, and the default printer is set "print to image file". Neat!
Posted by: Timothy James | Nov 8, 2008 2:45:04 PM
I have no clue who you are, but you're obviously locked in a tiny room with a specialized job on the internet. Get over yourself.
* Printers
As a student, I can't write papers and print them at the library. I did that for the first two weeks, and I nearly died. I turned in papers late because the library computers are slow, and I would randomly lose formatting when I printed. I have to leave my dorm far earlier too to get to a printer.
* Scanners
My sister is an artist. She's tried wacom tablets, but she far prefers paper drawings. Plus, some of her best work was done in the form of a doodle in a notebook while on the subway. I wouldn't use a computer while on a train. Scanner's how she made money illustrating books, or how she got her images into the computer to send with her college apps.
* Built-In Optical Drives
I have an external, and they annoy me. They're much louder, and much slower, I had to get a USB hub because they take up too many plugs by themselves, they're more prone to overheating, etc. etc...
* Fax Machines
Colleges and business do not take digital signatures. Fax machines are the only way to get my college apps in if they're only done the day of the deadline.
* Landline Phones
911 does not work from cellphones. I have a pay as you go and its still more expensive to use it than the just use the landline. It's definitely cheaper to have a regular pay as you go cell phone (no texting, even) with land line than to have a smart phone.
Posted by: dunvi | Nov 8, 2008 2:53:13 PM
The act of throwing gadgets in the trash is more obsolete than anything actually mentioned.
Also obsolete: Magazine publishers, like Charlie's employer. I hope Gizmodo's hiring soon.
Posted by: obo | Nov 8, 2008 3:05:42 PM
As a former subscriber, I am amused at all the negative comments about this article. Please get a grip. Wired is not intended for the likes of you and does not purpose to represent the reality of your petty world. It is for the kind of real people that appear in perfume ads. Appreciate that you are being allowed to read over their shoulders for a bit.
Posted by: Dave Smith | Nov 8, 2008 3:07:13 PM
I'm surprised how many luddites read this site. I thought is was supposed to be 'Wired', not Amish Monthly.
Wake up and visit a tech store it's 2008, not 1998.
Posted by: phaedrus74 | Nov 8, 2008 3:13:09 PM
Yeah. I'm going to have to veto scanners. I'm an artist and as much as I love and use my tablet drawing at home, my cameraphone is not reliable enough to scan in pages from my sketchbooks. Even if there were a good, affordable, portable drawing tablet that I could take on the train there's still no replacing the freedom and texture of a moleskine or sketchbook when inspiration strikes. Printers in their current form can probably go, but again, there's times when you need to print out a page of something to carry around that doesn't require batteries to read it, or a $300 e-ink tablet. And, I'm not even going to go into the fact that a lot of people aren't familiar with the replacement technologies mentioned in the article, since they are probably not the target audience for this. This was definitely not a very well thought out piece. Some of the comments would actually have made better opinion pieces.
Posted by: Chris | Nov 8, 2008 3:28:31 PM
What the fuck ??!@?!??!?!?
You have your head up your fucking ass when you wrote this piece of shit.
Get ride of printers, scanners, and fax? Have you ever worked in a real office??!?!?
Posted by: WTF? | Nov 8, 2008 3:50:11 PM
"Almost any cellphone has a good enough screen to read text."
Uh, no. How many millions of people opt for the free flip phone when they sign up for their cell plans? My wife is among them, and I can think of few things more miserable than trying to read the news on her little Nokia.
Posted by: Matt | Nov 8, 2008 4:04:21 PM
dunvi - "Also obsolete: Magazine publishers, like Charlie's employer. I hope Gizmodo's hiring soon."
LOL, fantastic point. Apparently editors are obsolete on blog.wired.com, because there's no way a story this dumb would make it into the print edition.
Posted by: Matt | Nov 8, 2008 4:07:11 PM
I still use my printer a lot, and suffered a lot when I didn't have it. See, I have a kid who has to print out articles. I have a kid who needs activities printed out for Cub Scouts. I print out shipping labels from paypal. I print out lists for our Scouting for Food so we know who's on what street. (Amazingly, there are still some eight-year-olds who don't carry cellphones!)
As for a fax, are you kidding me? What am I supposed to do with this copy of the I-9 that proves this person from Myanmar is a refugee and I really -can- open an account for them? It's not digitized. How about this driver's license for a mortgage application (yes, they do still exist!)? Or this tax return from someone's seventy-five-year-old accountant?
This article is a joke.
Posted by: Spider | Nov 8, 2008 4:16:43 PM
this is the biggest un-thought-out load of crap...
Posted by: crap | Nov 8, 2008 4:38:12 PM
I don't agree with the scanner, for one reason and one reason only, USAA deposit @ Home, which allows me to scan my checks and upload them to the website. It's great because USAA has no branches and even if it did, why drive around to find one when i can just do it from home. And as my BofA account seems to have become defunct, it looks like that is all their new ATMs do anyway. (USAA also reimburses me the fees from other bank ATMs and has non of their own, so when the great web features are coupled with superior, USA based phone service who needs a brick and mortar branch whose overhead raises my fees?).
I also have clients that still work from faxes, so while I'd like to get rid of it, can't yet.
BUT...
I don't use my optical drive and would be happy to see it go, just share by wifi or USB. I only use it to import music I might be given or every so often buy.
I have a BW laser printer for the rare occasion I do print and the cost per sheet on that is wonderfully low and speed is quick as compared to the inkjet I had lying around.
I keep basic land line because the reception in my apartment can be spotty, but it's voip so it's cheap flat rates for the calls. Does mean that I'm out of luck with it in emergencies, but In that case I'll stay in a room with good reception.
Posted by: Ian | Nov 8, 2008 4:55:04 PM
This was the dumbest article I've read in Wired in a while.
Posted by: Hominidx | Nov 8, 2008 6:02:48 PM
Sounds like your description is for inner city guys where everything is at your fingertips, Charlie. (I live in rural America!)
I think Jack Hawkins properly described (currently about 3/4 way down the page)
Posted by: Hbomb | Nov 8, 2008 6:15:51 PM
A fax is a legal document. A PDF is not. Moron.
Posted by: GT | Nov 8, 2008 6:19:30 PM
The iPhone is fucking useless. Why isn't it on the list?
Posted by: Jaycob | Nov 8, 2008 6:22:45 PM
Wow, 0/5 for this list. Author either is completely out of touch (and makes tons of self-centered assumptions), or just trying to troll for hits.
Printers
Guess what? They aren't just for photos. It's always easier to edit a document over 5 pages or so with a pen and paper. A quality laser printer isn't that expensive.
Scanners
Quality photo reproductions NEED good scans, cell phone cameras just won't cut it. They're cheap and useful.
Built-In Optical Drives
This one stumped me until I realized the author assumed everyone should work only from a crippled laptop. Wha? No, it's useful to use a built-in optical drive without having to mess with external power supplies.
Fax Machines
Get serious, this is the way adults send legally binding documents with ink signatures. If you don't need one, fine, but that doesn't make it useless.
Landline Phones
This is the assiest assertion in this article. 911 is the single best reason to keep a landline, but there are other perks. It's a cheap way to get unlimited long distance if you bundle it with other telco services -- Verizon's FIOS internet and TV, for example. If you tried to make any calls on Sept 11 2001, you'd find that all the cell towers were jammed, but land circuits were fine. If there's anyone in your life you care about, the modest charge for a land line is not a big expense.
Thanks, but I'll keep my "retro tech," future boy. I even have a few VCR machines around here that I might want to fire up just for noise and clutter ....
Posted by: Hugh Jass | Nov 8, 2008 6:22:48 PM
Now I remember why I ditched Wired years ago.
Posted by: JR | Nov 8, 2008 6:40:26 PM
There was actually something very similar to this on the Green Loves Gold blog recently:
Replacing Everything with an iPhone (part 1)
http://greenlovesgold.com/archives/23
Posted by: Colin Wright | Nov 8, 2008 6:53:37 PM
There was actually something very similar to this on the Green Loves Gold blog recently:
Replacing Everything with an iPhone (part 1)
http://greenlovesgold.com/archives/23
Posted by: Colin Wright | Nov 8, 2008 6:53:53 PM
I'm about to cut my land line, but you know why I've held on for so long? Not because of the cost or the 911 issues. Nope, it's because of the voice quality of landline. Most of my closest relationships are long distance, and I have frequently found that cell-to-cell conversations can sound stilted and/or hollow in terms of the subtleties of the human voice. It's pretty easy to misconstrue or miss something, almost as bad as email.
So, while I'm glad to give up the cost, I feel like my intimate conversations going forward are not going to be as enjoyable. Someone earlier referred to the quality of MP3s vs CDs, and I think it's something like that only worse because you've got packet loss to add.
Posted by: Dana | Nov 8, 2008 6:56:05 PM
Lots of older computers only have cdrom drives, and sometimes no usb ports. More than you'd think. How will you transfer files? Through their 33.6 internet connection? Don't think so. Lots of people only upgrade their computers after 10 or more years. Trust me, I know this. As for printers, seniors have a hard time reading screens so they like to print out emails and file them for later reading. Lots of businesses refuse to do anything without a paper copy. Ask me how I know this. As for faxes, most businesses use them, and it's good for when someone who doesn't know how to use email or the computer or for those companies that have rules only accepting mail or fax. Land lines are good for those who don't want to have a cell phone or be accessible 24/7. I know plenty of people who a) don't have a cell phone b) use a 10 yr+ computer c) have a hard time using/reading emails. Oh, and these are your upper income bosses or CEOs at fortune 100 companies, people.
Posted by: Joe | Nov 8, 2008 7:21:41 PM
Wow, you have some ego on you, Charlie, to think that everyone uses technology just like you do, for the same reasons, and that there can't possibly be any other use for them. I'd like to see you print out your job resume with "Instapaper". Or a mailing label.
I call BS on "The average cameraphone can take a clear enough picture to read the text". I've owned several cameraphones and they can't even take a clear enough picture for ME to read, let alone an OCR. BS!
Have you ever had to snail mail information to someone because it was too large to email? Yeah, it happens. Would you prefer to send them a burned CD that cost you less than 10 cents or a USB thumb drive that cost you more than 10 dollars?
Fax machines can go, that's fine. But 911 CANNOT get your EXACT location from a cellphone, so they can't send EMS to your location. Tada, you're dead.
Get over your ego, dude, and think a little bit.
Posted by: piekid | Nov 8, 2008 7:38:55 PM
An article written to get responses. I'm falling for it, though.
Printer: I use all the time. Have to print and sign documents. And when the documents are returned, they are either faxed, mailed, or emailed.
Scanner: How the signed documents get back in to the computer. But very few companies allow this. Most require a fax or fedex of a hard copy. Our 10 MP DSLR cameras can't even come close to the quality of even a basic $150 scanner for capture images, slides, and negatives. A $50 scanner is far better than a camera for document scanning. And compared to a cameraphone? Even my 5MP cameraphone isn't even close to that capability -- and it's top quality for a cameraphone, but still totally sucks.
Fax: I wish companies would take email, but they don't. Sometimes, they'll take a fax request, though. We were just required to fax something in to cancel service with a company. Used extremely frequently with realtors, too -- though some use email backed by printed and signed documents now.
Land line: We've got a cable fixed line -- backed by double UPS so it's powered. Why? We aren't in the middle of nowhere, but cell coverage is terrible. It'll be a long time before cell coverage is reliable enough. This is even more important if you've got kids in the house - it's not just you that may need to use the phone for emergencies -- or just urgent things.
Internal optical drive: I wish. Sadly, I need one just enough that I'm glad laptops do still have them. If all software came on 10 cent 512MB or 25 cent 5GB USB disks and you could also buy them at those prices, then maybe the switch could happen. They aren't great for archiving, though -- so a switch would be nice.
Just my thoughts... enjoy!
Posted by: Shane | Nov 8, 2008 7:47:33 PM
dude what the hell? yeah cuz a landline is out of date. am i the only one who still remembers my friends' phone numbers... "problem with your brain" what an egocentrical nutjob!
Posted by: wtf | Nov 8, 2008 7:56:12 PM
What a load of garbage. Optical drives, printers and scanners all still have their uses. Obviously this guy isnt a graphic designer. Scanners are needed to scan in drawings, sketches, blueprints, archiving older peices. "Now, your camera or even your phone will do the same" is this a joke? yeah try taking a high quality copy of an old photo or sketch at 300dpi with a frigging camera.
The printer is useful because I dont think teachers/bosses would enjoy reading 5 page e-mails on-screen.
Finally, the optical drive piece makes me laugh. maybe I want to watch a DVD on my computer huh? or just maybe he hasn't heard of HDD failure? sh*t happens.
The whole tone of this article has an Apple iPhone/do everything my way feel to it. :(
Posted by: Matt | Nov 8, 2008 7:59:14 PM
ahhhh.... i really hate tech writers that think they are far more technologically superior than the rest of us...
"Five Useless Gadgets You Should Throw in the Trash Right Now"
Just the title annoys me... I don't mind if the article gives valid point.. But too bad it's pure bullshit...
Posted by: David | Nov 8, 2008 8:01:44 PM
"But a cellphone is always with you, even when you're hiding under the bed from burglars or murderers. What if your battery dies? Borrow another phone -- there's always somebody around" Yeah, I'll ask one of the other 5 people hiding under my bed.
Posted by: Steven | Nov 8, 2008 8:06:42 PM
"There's one other problem with a landline, or rather, with your brain: You don't remember anyone's number anymore. Stick with the mobile, and learn to be less paranoid."
Huh? I bet the writer has memory problem... I agree, I don't remember phone numbers as much nowadays, but insulting others doesn't make your argument more convincing!
Posted by: John88 | Nov 8, 2008 8:10:45 PM
Not everyone lives in areas of complete cell coverage. gasp. DSL and a landline are the only option here in the sticks. You'll get my scanner when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. Artists tend to actually use them. Same for printers.
Its fun to be the first to stick a fork in something and declare it tired. Too bad Steve Jobs already beat you to the punch on the optical drive...
Posted by: blanco | Nov 8, 2008 8:50:07 PM
How does not needing an optical drive go to "buy a macbook air"? Idiotic. Talk about a piece of useless equipment.
Posted by: danny | Nov 8, 2008 9:20:01 PM
Get a grip naysayers.
If you still need your piece of equipment, use it. Nobody said you had to chunk your stuff.
Sheesh.
Posted by: Angie | Nov 8, 2008 9:49:58 PM
I don't agree with the printer. I need it to print out assignments! Sure, I could print them at the library, but it costs less to do it at home and I don't have to put on pants to print something.
Posted by: Jen | Nov 8, 2008 9:53:13 PM
I really enjoy lifehacker but I have to say that this article has to be the worst I've ever seen here.. Sorry, just my opinion.
Posted by: pvvy | Nov 8, 2008 10:21:48 PM
Haha, this article is hilarious. Because it's utter fail. Everyone freaking uses a printer, we need to print out information to hand out, for work, for school, etc. Scanners? The very same. Optical drives are still useful, how are you going to watch movies LEGALLY and the such? Fax machines is slightly arguable. however, land line phones? Yes, YOU STILL NEED THEM. Article is fail simple as that. Oh, that and it's completely short sighted.
Posted by: Rice Cake Machinations | Nov 8, 2008 10:33:12 PM
Is the editor high or something?
Because all I've read here is crap/
Posted by: luke | Nov 8, 2008 11:17:25 PM
Opinion of Wired.com just plummeted. This is idiotic.
Posted by: rob | Nov 8, 2008 11:20:08 PM
Disposed of landline, fax, some software (google doc and google calendar), paper files (scanned to digital .pdf), paid for OS (use Linux), software (use OpenOffice)...
Life is much more simple now!
Posted by: danahyatt | Nov 8, 2008 11:37:01 PM
Wow, lots of vitriol in these responses. Most people seem to forget the writer was writing about things you don't need in your HOME. That's completely different from your business. Having a fax for legal documents at work is different than having one sitting next to your laptop at home.
Personally, I'm probably about the person this article is geared towards. Ie, mid 20's, techologically savvy, upwardly mobile, and relatively transient (writing from bangkok currently).
As far as all of these go, they are relatively useless to me.
Printers? In college (and high school and grad school) it was easy to hook up to the school network and use their printers. Everyone was allocated 1000 pages per semester as part of room/board. As far as photos go, no one i know prints them anymore. Either they take their memory card to the local wallgreens/cvs/target and have them printed for cheap or they have digital picture frames. Almost everything else I just send to my iphone and can read off of that (boarding passes, directions, etc).
Scanners? Seriously, take a picture of it with your digital camera or cellphone (the N95 I had before my iphone was used for this multiple times). What i had to send legal proof of ID to stock brokers I just took a photo of my driver's license. When Ive been sent legal documents to sign I either just returned the originals or again took photos of them and sent the photos back.
Faxes? I havent used once since i was 14. And that was back in the 90's.
Built-in optical drives? I have one on my MBP...and really have used it once that i can remember in the last year. When everyone my age needs to move data around we either use big external harddrives (like WD my passports), thumbdrives/jumpdrives/flashdrives/usb drives whatever you want to call them, or email. Its ubiquitous. Most everyone i know also has a laptop over desktops. They then have data on their computer's, backed up on the big HD (like the passport), and then certain files online backed up as well. I personally have 1 TB of memore connected to my wireless home network, a passport to take on trips with my laptop, and a thumbdrive if i want to take a movie over to a friend's house.
Land lines? More or less useless outside of possible internet connections. I only have one because it came free with my current apartment. I use is to call other apartments in my building because its free and used it once because my cellphone was across the room instead of in my pocket. Otherwise its useless. Once cell boosters become easier and cheaper, ill invest in one of those as well. As far as emergencies go, when trying to get a hold of people text, don't call to get in touch with family. Works great and people mass text quickly to get the word out if they're okay. If they weren't okay, they couldnt call anyways. So texts make more sense to send out.
Basically for home use, this article was spot on for me.
Posted by: Collin | Nov 9, 2008 12:10:40 AM
Categorized under "Junk" because this article's a piece of crap.
Charlie Sorrel, get off of your high-horse and realize that we can't get rid of these things.
Printers: I don't care who you are, if you do anything involving business or education (which makes up everyone but the old and the poor) you'll need a damn printer.
Scanners: Believe it or not, there are people that scan photos (which are not timeless) to their computers (which are fairly timeless). Not to mention us graphic designers. I would be dead without a scanner.
Optical Drives: Sometimes, you don't have the option to buy more hard drive space on your laptop, or programs might only run when you have the disc. Lugging around an external drive is retarded, and the extra cords suck as well.
Fax machines: I'll kinda give you this one, but my bank doesn't allow you to email information to apply for a student loan, they want it faxed. Even if you don't use it, they're still handy in a pinch.
Landlines: So when the power's out at your nearby cell-towers and you can't call anyone, you'll still be happy you threw out your landline, right? The nice thing about a landline is that they don't require power to work, plug it into the phone jack and you can make a call.
Don't listen to this moron.
Posted by: Erik | Nov 9, 2008 12:35:12 AM
Yeah, and while we're at tossing optical drives since no one needs to install an OS, just use a slow expensive non universally compatible external one, let's also do away with:
Cars. Who needs to drive some place? Walk or ride your bike. If it's far, take the bus or get a cab or carpool. You only think you need a car. Get over yourself.
Computers. Have they really made our lives easier? Seriously, just go outside once in a while. You don't need to stay home on friday night playing WoW...go dance at the club.
Glasses. Seriously, get lasik. Who needs glasses? They're ugly and you can break/lose them. Besides, they only screw up once in a while.
Meat. Suck it up and go vegan.
Sex. Celibacy is SO underrated.
Girls. Because do you really need something to spend your money on and to nag you constantly? Just be single, it's a lot less of a hassle.
Flavored beverages. What's wrong with water? It's all you need. Anything above and beyond is just excess in addition to putting the pounds on you.
Money. Just steal everything you need or get someone else to buy it for you. You realize how much free time you'd have if you didn't have to work? You could spend that time thinking of clever ways to scam people.
A house. Do you REALLY need to take a shower every day? Go sleep outside cupcake. Is it too cold where you live? Move.
Teeth. Just have soymilk for every meal. What do you need to chew anyway?
Clothing. No one cares about your ugly body, so why cover it up?
Shoes. They're expensive and they don't last forever.
But yeah dude, you need a printer for school and printing out quick maps (gps, I know, but sometimes I can't hand 30 GPSes to people at a party).
Scanner for digitizing documents en masse. Ooh wait, you'd probably just tell me to type them or that I don't need them anyway.
Fax machines. Good luck getting your resume in for that hot job on time.
Landline phones. Yeah, because DSL works over my cell phone.
Optical drives...Yeah, I already paid once for music to get it on my computer, I'm not buying it again online. What if I want to use my computer to watch a movie I rented? Ooh, right, just download it...because I can do that really fast. And, you know, I can just totally email a MP3 to my car to play music in there. But you'd probably argue that I shouldn't be listening to music while driving.
Posted by: sean | Nov 9, 2008 1:01:26 AM
I can agree with tossing all that stuff except the scanner. A good multi-feed scanner is a necessity. Papers come in bundles and taking a picture of each page is time consuming and often poor quality. Throw all the papers on a stack - hit scan and come back later.
Posted by: fildawg | Nov 9, 2008 1:47:36 AM
I see little point in throwing already bought hardware out in favour of using (possibly paid-for) services to replace them!
eg. dump your perfectly good scanner and pay a subscription for the use of 'ScanR'. Yeh, that makes sense.
Bit of a silly, not well thought out, article I think.
Posted by: Tarique Naseem | Nov 9, 2008 3:23:20 AM
So stupid.
Posted by: T T | Nov 9, 2008 4:06:27 AM
I use printing for things like quick check-in for flights or hard copies of college work i'm doing
Posted by: Sean O' Grady | Nov 9, 2008 6:14:31 AM
Whilst I agree that for most people a scanner is now pretty much obsolete, mine is part of my printer so takes no extra room.
I am a student so *need* a printer. Yes schools and universities are a long way from becoming paper free. I wouldn't want to read through 10,000 words on a screen either to be honest.
Optical drive is fair enough. Once everything is installed it is pretty obsolete, but I'm a music journalist and CDs arrive in the post regularly. I don not want to continually have to plug in an optical drive for a quick first listen.
Fax machines are damn annoying and slow, but you need one if you are dealing with contracts. Faxes can be legal documents, PDFs and digital documents are not.
The land line phone I generally agree with getting rid of. But in countries where ADSL is the normal way of getting broadband you have to pay for a phone line anyway and the actual phone is damn cheap. I barely use it, but for receiving international business calls etc it is useful.
Nice link bait...
Posted by: Tim | Nov 9, 2008 6:30:32 AM
"But for the rest of us, these hunks of plastic are just taking up space and electricity."
Reads like Charlie is a waste of our resources.
Posted by: What?! | Nov 9, 2008 6:30:38 AM
This is idiotic.
Posted by: Pedro | Nov 9, 2008 6:48:55 AM
" I agree with printers and scanners being useless. Use your local library; we are always glad to help.
Posted by: pjkwik | Nov 3, 2008 6:54:11 PM "
By the time you finished with printing papers from a library, you would have paid for an all-in-one. (most libraries charge dearly for printed pages)
Posted by: Nope | Nov 9, 2008 7:44:12 AM
I think that not having a CD drive is stupid. I have 2 in my desktop so think about that.
Posted by: Tom | Nov 9, 2008 8:03:30 AM
This is an idiotic article.
Printer - shipping labels and sometimes a mail document is all that's accepted by the receiving party. I can think of several other uses such as kids school homework and projects.
Scanner - I lol'd at the cellphone suggestion. Plus, I often use it to copy and/or fax paper documents.
Built in optical drives - I don't use mine much but sometimes it's the only option.
Fax - Other than snail-mail, faxes are often the only other document delivery accepted by many, especially government agencies. And for whatever reason, most offices still use faxes to send and receive documents. If you have a computer and scanner, you don't need a fax machine.
Landline - My landline costs me $7/month on top of the DSL cost. I run a server, security system and cams from my home. I also have a line powered phone in case the power goes out.
Worthless article. This person should give up writing.
Posted by: No | Nov 9, 2008 8:03:59 AM
Spot on! I couldn't agree more. Even more painful to see my mum just bought a printer ("whatelse would you use a computer for if not to print?")... CD/DVDs are useless, I didn't use mine for ages and if only to install stuff. Video rental is now online...
Other useless crap? Your 90s HiFi rack? Who needs a 300 CD changer and an amplifiyer bigger than your washing machine? And while we are at it, why not throw out that old FM radio, too?
Posted by: Sebastian | Nov 9, 2008 8:21:57 AM
Wow, just what I needed! An article boastful to the author's tech-savviness that can insult my apparent lack of knowledge! Wait ten or fifteen years and post this article again.
Posted by: Alex | Nov 9, 2008 8:39:32 AM
I half-agree with this.
OK, I 3/5 agree with this.
DVD Drives: I'm a p2p fanatic, and when I want to watch a DVD on my 60" TV, or burn a Wii game to use with the Backup Channel, well, I have to burn it to a DVD.
Printer: I use it all the time! Being a student, it's one of those necessities, when you have a teacher who won't let you print anything out in his/her class.
Scanner: Scan to a PDF, use OneNote to find text and make it a document, Simple as that.
Think about your demographics before you post something.
I want my electricity back.
Posted by: Harlan | Nov 9, 2008 9:38:49 AM
Garbage.
Posted by: Nemo | Nov 9, 2008 10:35:09 AM
This is a stupid article, all of these things are still used by many people, a professional is not going to tell you to take a picture of a photo as opposed to scanning it in, students use printers all the time, without a DVD drive we do not have a solid method of portable mass-produced data (At least not a standard one) and a cell phone pales in comparison to a land line phone, it's cheaper and it is much more reliable.
Posted by: Kieran | Nov 9, 2008 10:57:42 AM
All right, I'll leave my old wireless landline phone... If you will pay the extra costs I'll have for each cellphone call.
All right, I leave my cd-rom, if you tell me how the f*** I am going to install my OS.
Is it so hard to understand that technology is intertwined?
Read texts at a cellphone? You gotta be f****** kidding...
Posted by: Me | Nov 9, 2008 11:24:59 AM
Excellent point on the land line. We just installed a home security system, and it uses it's own dedicated cellular system to notify emergency personnel.
Same for fax machines. I'd rather receive a PDF file, since they have better resolution and quality.
However, I think you are a bit premature with getting rid of printers, scanners, and optical drives. There has to be a way to print out those PDF files sent instead of a fax (forms to fill out). With personal laser printers coming down in price, I do think we will see a serious decline in the number of ink jet printers sold. The ink cartridges are WAY too expensive, don't last near long enough, and don't have the print quality it should. Laser printers make MUCH more sense, since toner never "dries up" (unlike ink cartridges), and generally have much better print quality. Using an ink jet printer to print out photos is just plain financial suicide! The cost per print is at least 5x as much as it costs to go to the corner drug store or department store to get prints made. I got my personal laser printer for $50, and bought a "spare" toner cartridge for $60. I have yet to completely use the half-filled introductory toner cartridge 18 months later!
Scanners will always have their place, if for no other reason than to digitize family heirloom photos. Unless done properly, snapping a photo of the photo with a digital camera will yield far inferior results.
Optical drives will continue to exist, and must continue to exist. This is, by far, the most common and economical way to not only get information (programs, operating systems, etc.) onto your computer, but it's also the most economical way to archive your files from the computer. Unless it's just handled improperly (play frisbee?), the data on a CD or DVD lasts a very long time. Conversely, hard drives (even external ones) are mechanical devices that DO fail, sometimes for little or no reason at all. No folks, you'd better keep your optical drives around for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: parnote | Nov 9, 2008 11:55:00 AM
Ha! In this day and age, many, many people are looking for jobs. Some employers want you to FAX or mail HARDCOPIES of your resume.
You aren't:
an artist
a student
a parent
a realist
one of the millions of unemployed
Let them eat cake, eh?
Posted by: ess | Nov 9, 2008 12:45:20 PM
For someone in favor of paperless, how can you say to get rid of the one thing that actually makes it all paperless (scanner)?? LOL Last i checked, none of the local stores here email me my reciepts, so scanner life it is, or deal with paper. I hate having to find a PC or bring one with me wherever i go just to do anything at all. This day and age is just flat lazy, you even expressed it with the comment of working from your bed LOL good thing you didn't write about anything in healthcare, everyone'd have cathiters to eliminate restrooms and eating by mouth would just be plain old fashioned like "grandad"
Posted by: Terry K | Nov 9, 2008 1:13:12 PM
1. printer. Disagree. As a student, a printer is pretty necessary. I've been able to get away with printing stuff at the library at school, but it's still nice to have my own. Also, there's other stuff it's useful for. Printing out coupons, printing out directions (though you could just jot them down, but sometimes the maps are helpful), among other things.
2. scanner. Slightly disagree. Using a camera or cameraphone is goddamn nowhere near good enough if you want to use OCR or even scan a sketch you drew.
I mean, I can get by on day to day life without a printer or a scanner, but a cheap printer/scanner machine is probably not a bad investment for occasional use.
3. Drives. What. The. Hell. Of course you need these. Watching DVDs? Importing CDs? Burning CDs? My car has no aux jack, and I don't even have an iPod...so I burn CDs to listen in the car.
4. Fax. Agree
5. Landline. Agree.
Overall, though, this article seems to be written towards a hardcore techie with a really nice camera, a great cameraphone, and a car with an ipod or aux hookup.
Posted by: Dkong | Nov 9, 2008 1:24:13 PM
I usually don't comment on posts like this, but this one begs to be ridiculed.
Wow! A least you generated a lot of comments for this post. What a shame you had to lose credibility to do that. I am on the ..'this is stupid and ridiculas..' side of this.
Who are you to tell anyone what they don't need? I use all these things, and don't plan to change.
Posted by: Hal | Nov 9, 2008 2:04:32 PM
What an elitist bunch of hooey!
I have lots of stuff I need to print, sign, and mail in to various places. The nearest Kinko's is about 40 miles away.
Cell phones are quite hit-and-miss around here. I live on Main Street, yet cellular devices don't work at my house. GSM? Don't make me laugh! iPhones won't work within about 20 miles of here, though there is one specific spot in a neighboring town where they (almost) work.
You're assuming everyone lives in an urbanized area with good cellular and retail infrastructure, and that everyone with whom we need to share documents is both similarly situated AND has the interest and ability to accept and read electronic documents.
Maybe someday, but not now.
Posted by: Mark | Nov 9, 2008 3:22:49 PM
I followed a link here. This is the only post I ever read. It's so freaking stupid I am not going to bother checking the rest of your blog. Anyone that writes this kind of insanity doesn't deserve to be read.
In case you don't get the point, let me violate one of my personal rules and give you the flaming this post so richly deserves: It's been a long, long time since I read a blog post as full of pure horse shit as this post.
Stupidity exists. We all have to live with it. But stupidity at this level pisses me off. Always has.
The arrogance and stupidity of your post does not deserve a rebuttal, only scorn. I'll save the effort at rebuttals for intelligent posts that I disagree with.
BTW, can anyone tell how bad I hate stupid people?
Posted by: Mr. Flowing River | Nov 9, 2008 8:20:50 PM
This is utterly ridiculous. 'Nough said...
Posted by: Ali | Nov 9, 2008 8:55:07 PM
The printer is complete b.s.
I use my printer constantly, weather
to print out directions, client email, online articles, or information on an upcoming vacation. I even use it now to print out boarding passes for my flights.
Plus what if you have to print a photo at 2am and you live in the boondocks?
Also the landline is b.s. If you live in a city sure. But at the same time
my crackberry screws up. I've had it go dead much more frequently than I've had my landline die. And where I live the cell service is still hit or miss.
Posted by: Ian | Nov 9, 2008 9:52:11 PM
That article's nonsense. Written like a true tech journalist who has no connection with the real world.
Printer: Tell me when you can scrawl annotations and corrections on every computer screen out there as easily and quickly as you can do with pen+paper.
Further, emissive screens are terrible reading devices, (unless you've got one of those nice sony ebook readers)
Scanner: Again... cameras are great but you can't get the resolution and quality of a scanner. I couldnt possibly hold a camera still enough or exactly at the correct angle to get a decent "scan" of a picture.
Optical drives: More evidence of a tech journalist disconnected with the real world. Your job may allow you to have a top notch high speed and transfer internet connection, but most of the world doesn't have that.
For software, take X-Plane as an example, 6 DVD's, something like 30gb. That'd use up my monthly internet download limit and some of the next month. Likewise for movies (no shit quality downloads don't count).
Landline Phones. Further evidence of a tech journalist talking out of his arse. Cellphones might be cheaper for you, but globally, they're still comparatively expensive when compared to landlines.
I'm living in the inner suburbs I get pathetic reception. Or my girlfriend who lives in a brick house in a hilly suburb and gets rotten reception too. Landlines are essential in both houses.
In one of those houses, the landline necessary to provide ADSL internet anyway as cable is not available in that area.
In some of the buildings of the city itself I get no reception, like the lower level of one library or one department store. This isn't poor network infrastructure, this is just buildings blocking out the signal.
Posted by: James | Nov 9, 2008 10:40:51 PM
I disagree. You can't throw all of those gadgets away, 'cause in due time time they will be an antique which can be sold to the highest bidder. Your kids & grandkids will thank you. :-)
Posted by: glenn | Nov 9, 2008 10:53:12 PM
Actually it's all true, the those who have fear of getting rid of all these is the ones those old junkies has thing for physical things. Otherwise as article says it's just plain professional job you are doing which needs any of these
If you tech smart, surely we can get rid all once and for all.
I have personally seen
1. MP3 are rather versatile than CDs
2. PDF quite so than pen and paper
3. Invoicing software much easier than FAXes
4. Print service is cleaner and greener than messy lousy printers
5. Mobiles are a thousand better than landlines even though unlimited broadband is bit pricey though
6. Scanners are just junk, if you have a decent digicam and a tripod, it's easy way for text OCR scans and print scans
May be a dedicated card or invoice scanner may be a better investment if you obssessed with paper docs
7. Just almost got obsolete, DVD backups are there, but even my macbook dies form HDD failure, network copied USB image boots it just fine. I can grab pretty much my day today stuff from web.
Posted by: Chan | Nov 9, 2008 11:03:07 PM
I agree with the fax machine. I use just about everything else. I have a printer, scanner, external dvd drive, and a landline phone up in my room. All of which are extremely useful. I absolutely hate reading my stuff on my computer screen. I always print out articles and scan pages from textbooks and newspaper articles. There is nothing like holding a hard copy. I absolutely hate printing out articles from online news sites. Most annoying fucking thing to do. Why the hell do I have ads in my article? Landlines are actually pretty useful when it comes to using it in a family. But if you're living alone it is just better having a cell phone. You don't have to deal with separate bills. I back up all my audio onto CDs and all my video onto DVDs. That way I can share it and watch DVDs on my plasma which is 4x larger than my computer screen. There are better things to do than diss some things that are actually useful. How about getting rid of all your old cell phones? Or the desktop parts that you never use? The 5 other TVs when you really only need 1? Whoever wrote this article is completely ignorant or just has nothing better to do. I prefer writing over typing as well. There is an easier flow of ideas. Maybe then you can actually come up with useful suggestions.
Posted by: kanjisasahara | Nov 10, 2008 5:54:31 AM
While I don't use a scanner too often, there are times I've needed it. Offices still use faxes to send official documents quickly and cheaply (and with legal signatures). I *hate* reading any long document on a computer, even my laptop. It causes eye strain, and it's not nearly as comfortable to sit with as a few sheets of paper stapled together. Plus, as a scientist, I can make complex notes to myself (and underlining, sketches, and equations) in the margins of a printed-out research paper that are very awkward and less useful in an electronic document.
Biggest thing: We're going to have serious social problems in a few years when a large fraction of people don't have land lines. Because cell phones aren't listed in the phone book, you'll no longer be able to look up the number for...
*the parents of your daughter's friend from school Want to invite them over? Ask when the field trip gets back?
*old friends who've moved away, or you've lost touch with. Want to just get their address for a Christmas card? They're not in the book.
*Want to call or write *anybody* who is not in your immediate social circle??
Tough! You will have a hard time, unless you already have a way of seeing them face to face.
If we can ever come up with cell phone directories, this objection will disappear, but if being unlisted is part of the attraction of a cell phone, that's going to be a large hurdle.
Posted by: Tim Hamilton | Nov 10, 2008 6:18:19 AM
Fax can go. The rest is sheer nonsense. This is why I stopped reading Wired.
Posted by: Deadhacker | Nov 10, 2008 10:28:39 AM
I don't get the sense that the author has actually used any of his proposed alternatives.
It's utter nonsense that phone cameras are good enough to scan text documents for OCR.
And would you really want to use your phone camera to scan a multi-page document?
Posted by: Prester John | Nov 10, 2008 11:13:11 AM
This article is in the correct category because it is absolutely junk. I'm probably as tech savvy the author and I live in tech friendly NYC but I'm definitely not ignorant enough to think that these peripherals are irrelevant at home. How stupid could you be to express the thought land line phones are crap?
Posted by: Steve | Nov 10, 2008 1:35:49 PM
While I'm not going to comment on everything, I will throw in my two cents on a scanner. I have been painfully trying to digitize everything in my house. I have completed my entire music collection, which spans from the 60s to the current selections. CDs, cassette tapes, and vinyl records have all been digitized. When I purchased a digital camera, I was happy when I realized that I would cut down on my shoeboxes of photos, negatives or 35mm slides. Instead, I have a big hard drive filled with the digital clutter of my photographs. I no longer burn CDs or DVDs unless I have to (which is usually work related). Now the scanner is being used to digitize everything that is on paper. Tax forms, mortgage stuff, 4.01K stuff is all being converted to digital images. Sure I can take a picture of all the paper images with my cell phone camera OR digitial camera but we're talking about years of paperwork. So I have a dedicated Fujitsu cf 4220 scanner that scans all paperwork to a resolution as high as 600 dpi. It will scan both sides of the paperwork simultaneously as long as I use the document feeder. Each file is automatically labeled and numbered with a title of my choosing and then placed in a folder on my big hard drive. Try that with a cell phone. Yes the scanner is sort of expensive but you can find great deals on Ebay. It also saves me the hassle of pushing the button for each picture when using a camera. I push the button on the scanner once and then leave it while I do something else. All done neat and tidy. I will probably scan most of my pictures that were taken with regular film OR maybe use ScanCafe. Either way I'll probably not dump the scanner just yet.
Posted by: Russ | Nov 10, 2008 1:41:39 PM
Those are some items one can get rid of by using far less effective, user friendly and comfortable alternatives. Have you actually tried getting a correct scan of a document with a hand-held cellphone camera? Needed to share a chapter of a book with someone? I have, it sucks even using a tripod and a DSLR. Reading on a cellphone? What? My cellphone is a decent mid-pricerange device and it displays about nine lines at a time. "On-line printing services?" Instead of having a cheap printer I have someone somewhere print things for me then mail them over to my house taking days instead of seconds for me to actually hold the paper in my hands? Optical drives? Instead of taking a DVD with me or renting one, I buy it, then spend an hour or two ripping it to an extrenal HD which I lug around with me. If I want to lend one of my movies to a friend instead of bringing over a disc to watch I bring a HD, copy it to his PC, hook that up to the TV, then watch a movie? Also, I am carrying around a HD, which is prone to damage from being dropped or shaken, as opposed to a DVD which costs a few cents to replace if it ever gets scratched?
Landlines and Fax I'll give you, but the rest would just make your life more of a chore.
Posted by: what | Nov 10, 2008 1:43:02 PM
I agree with getting rid of printers, scanners and fax machines, but landines still have their moments.
And, if you're honestly suggesting that people ditch internal drives, you must be completely and utterly stupid.
No offense, but I don't think a single person here agrees with that one (Not that I've read all the comments, there's a bit too many to do that.)
I often find myself using my laptop's built-in DVD drive. Just the other day, I used it to burn restore disks, and then install Ubuntu. Not long after that, I used it to rip a few CDs.
You may suggest USB drives as an emergency alternative to no drives, but you didn't take into consideration the space those take up. The main reason drives are integrated into the computer (Aside from giving them a faster connection) is to take less space. I know I don't have the space to be constantly lugging an external drive with me, and I'm willing to bet a large amount of users will agree.
Before you suggest that it's specific only to laptops, I lack the space for two external drives for my desktop, too.
Honestly, I enjoyed some of the article, it made valid points. But ditching your internal drives, no. That's just ludicrous, nobody's going to do that.
Posted by: Matthew Connelly | Nov 11, 2008 11:54:27 AM
If this was just a ply to get people to read an inane article - mission accomplished. If the writer truly believes the mindless drivel, he really needs to do some research. Without a printer how do you propose get a signed contract from your client? Or even make a proposal? Go visit a client and leave nothing tangible behind is a surefire way to not get the business. Most business in NOT closed on the spot. Unfortunately for the writer, many people still do use film, so the scanner does become necessary at times. While not something that is used everyday, it is still needed. The claim of slow, noisy and clunky may have been true at one time, obviously you haven't purchased a decent scanner anytime recently. And to even suggest that a camera can do as good of a job is simply idiotic. There really is no other word for that type of stupidity. No optical drives? Really? I guess my clients wouldn't want a copy of their files, or that multimedia presentation I created for them. Without the optical drive, should a email them a mutli-gigabyte zip file? Obviously not. And I guess the writer has a magic computer that has never needed the OS reinstalled. If so good for him. Unfortunately for his ridiculous premise, most computers will need to have the operating system reinstalled at some point - and likely more than once through the computer's lifetime.
Posted by: Quite Possibly the Stupidest Thing I Have Read | Nov 11, 2008 2:37:14 PM
DUDE... RECYCLE.
most major metropolitan areas allow you to turn in your used electronics (sometimes costs $$$ but w/e) to centers that will RECYCLE your shit.. not just put it in a land fill.. damn.. earth first dude..
Posted by: jordan | Nov 11, 2008 6:14:20 PM
A nice refreshing post, I totally agee.
Add webcams to the list too; I have no idea why I have about 5 of them in my draw. The same goes for the 4 old routers, 20 old scsi disks... I could go on and on.
I'm in half a mind to get a big hammer and have a massive smashing fest, except I know a week afterwards I'll end up needing something from that crap collection I smashed up.
I'd also have to buy a hammer; and then I'd have a hammer that I've no need for too.....
Posted by: g | Nov 12, 2008 4:33:43 AM
@ "Quite Possibly the Stupidest Thing I Have Read"
You're a spaz, you obviously can't even fu*king read!
The author starts out by saying:
"First, an anti hate-mail caveat: Some of this kit is still useful in a professional context. If you use this stuff every day, you know who you are -- please don't write in. But for the rest of us, these hunks of plastic are just taking up space and electricity."
Posted by: spacker | Nov 12, 2008 4:37:15 AM
I agree with everything EXCEPT built-in ROMs.
Even with on-boot recognition of USB devices joe-average won't know how to mount one to do it even with the new automated processes.
There are occasions I find myself looking for a floppy disk bay to use my tried and tested hardware diagnostic tools only to realise they're absent.