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Akira
01-31-2008, 06:03 AM
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/culture/waiwai/news/20080131p2g00m0dm014000c.html

Wanton women cry that men jerk their shot and miss the real target

Japan is in dire straights. The population is declining, people are marrying later, having fewer children, if any at all. And Spa! (1/29) says one of the major reasons for the dilemma is that as many as 70 percent of younger men are unable to achieve vaginal ejaculation.

"They've got no erection problems and they can masturbate perfectly normally, but there has been a massive increase, particularly among those in their 20s and 30s, who are suffering from vaginal ejaculation disorder, or an inability to ejaculate inside the vagina," Koichi Nagao, a urologist at the Toho University Omori Medical Center, tells Spa! "It's the most common dysfunction I have to deal with among people who come to the clinic. It leads to problems in the home, fertility problems and, in the worst cases, divorce."

Though there's no data available on exactly how many Japanese men are actually suffering from vaginal ejaculation disorder, a soapland brothel worker the magazine gives as its source says over her many years of servicing male clients, it would have to be around 70 percent.

"Young guys in particular. I'd say for every 10 guys, only about three come inside," the woman says. "There has definitely been an increase in the number of guys who'll finish themselves by hand, guys who leave without coming and guys who only want to talk."

Tsueno Akaeda, a doctor who runs a clinic in Tokyo's Roppongi, agrees with urologist Nagao.

"There are definitely more people with vaginal ejaculation disorder than there used to be," he says. "There has been incredible progress made in masturbation goods and there are plenty of people who can ejaculate into an artificial vagina, but not the real thing. I get more than a few men come to see me about that. And those in their 20s and 30s have grown up watching adult movies. They find masturbation easier and more satisfying than intercourse."

Experts say one of the main reasons men develop vaginal ejaculation disorder is that they learn how to masturbate using methods that feel distinctly different from vaginas, such as rubbing up against pillows or lying face down and moving back and forward for stimulation until climax.

"Naturally picking up somewhat unnatural methods has to be the main reason," Nagao says. "Or, some guys obtain pleasure from some method they've happened to discover almost by accident and keep on doing it that way. It used to be that your bad buddies would tell you the best way to jerk off."

That's not to say that doing it by hand is a preferable solution, either.

"Incorrect methods aren't the only problem. Gripping it too strongly or moving too quickly during masturbation are also methods that bring sensations radically different to an actual vagina," Nagao says. "Ejaculation is stress-relieving, so there's a mentality problem involved as well because guys grip themselves firmer or move their hands faster because they want to feel pleasure as quickly as possible."

Pshrink Katsumi Harima agrees with Nagao that mental issues are involved with the onset of vaginal ejaculation disorder.

"Sex is too accessible for young people nowadays, what with adult movies and Internet porn," Harima tells Spa! "They're too used to the virtual world, which means when they find things like a woman who doesn't have porn star looks, is sweaty, or doesn't moan as loud as they're expecting, they become unable to ejaculate." (By Ryann Connell)

(Mainichi Japan) January 31, 2008

Joe Kalicki
01-31-2008, 06:04 AM
It makes you feel like you have to pee, but you don't, and it's annoying.

Jim T.
01-31-2008, 06:09 AM
That can't be for real, can it?

Gregory
01-31-2008, 06:12 AM
That can't be for real, can it?

Sex columnist Dan Savage gets questions like this a lot. He regularly argues against "death grip" masturbation because the common vagina (my new band name, BTW) doesn't provide that much PSI pressure, and the guy can't climax.

Silver Surfer's Scrotum
01-31-2008, 06:13 AM
That can't be for real, can it?

believe me, the condition exists

dasNdanger
01-31-2008, 06:20 AM
I've actually heard of this before - it's nothing new. Same can hold true for women not being able to climax with a man if she's gotten too used to self-stimulation, etc. Yeah - not new at all.

das

Hate_Prime
01-31-2008, 06:22 AM
I want to go to Japan.

Ethan Van Sciver
01-31-2008, 06:28 AM
They're probably sexually intimidated by tentacles.

Shepherd
01-31-2008, 06:33 AM
I want to go to Japan.

So you can wack off with all those other guys? Yeah, me too...

R

modungo
01-31-2008, 06:35 AM
They're probably sexually intimidated by tentacles.

HIYO!:D

nwspencer
01-31-2008, 06:37 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the soapland girl should be HAPPY about this problem?

modungo
01-31-2008, 06:39 AM
I want to go to Japan.

I like it here. Where we put our semen into vaginas. Or at least into the rubber bag between the penis and the vagina. And when we do jerk it, there aren't any tentacles involved. I'm gonna go find a flag to salute...

PeterSparker
01-31-2008, 06:41 AM
So you can wack off with all those other guys? Yeah, me too...

R


You guys have fun with that ...


I'll be there to take care of those poor unsatisfied Japanese girls. It's just the kind of person I am. I care.

nwspencer
01-31-2008, 06:45 AM
You guys have fun with that ...


I'll be there to take care of those poor unsatisfied Japanese girls. It's just the kind of person I am. I care.

A guy coming isn't what satisfies a girl.

Sadly.

Mylazycat
01-31-2008, 07:17 AM
A soapland brothel worker the magazine gives as its source says

This is when the article lost all chance of being taken seriously by me.

Ryan A. Elliott
01-31-2008, 07:21 AM
Porn stars apparently don't have a problem with it.

You know you see it when you're watching a guy on girl scene, she finishes, he pulls out and cranks out a few knuckle children on her face.

It's not for safety, it's becuase of this. What this thread is about.

:crazy:

adam_warlock_2099
01-31-2008, 07:24 AM
Sex columnist Dan Savage gets questions like this a lot. He regularly argues against "death grip" masturbation because the common vagina (my new band name, BTW) doesn't provide that much PSI pressure, and the guy can't climax.

"Death grip"? Goddamn guys what are yall doing with your penis? Man be gentle. Your not doing auto asphyxiation, your stroking your salami.

Fourthman
01-31-2008, 07:42 AM
Sex columnist Dan Savage gets questions like this a lot. He regularly argues against "death grip" masturbation because the common vagina (my new band name, BTW) doesn't provide that much PSI pressure, and the guy can't climax.

Couldn't have said it better fellow Savage fan.

Gregory
01-31-2008, 07:43 AM
Couldn't have said it better fellow Savage fan.

I listen to the podcast every week on the drive home.

Fourthman
01-31-2008, 07:47 AM
I listen to the podcast every week on the drive home.

Ahem, LOVEcast. I listen to the previous week every Monday as I'm usually one day late listening to Stern (if you don't follow, it's not important).

Ben
01-31-2008, 07:47 AM
It makes you feel like you have to pee, but you don't, and it's annoying.And if you go to the doctor for help, he's going to put his finger up your ass. It's lose-lose.

Akira
01-31-2008, 07:55 AM
I listen to the podcast every week on the drive home.

He has a podcast? Sweet mother mcguillicutty! I need this!!

jess
01-31-2008, 08:04 AM
It makes you feel like you have to pee, but you don't, and it's annoying.

sounds a little like opiate withdrawls :)

Gregory
01-31-2008, 08:09 AM
He has a podcast? Sweet mother mcguillicutty! I need this!!

You can get it through iTunes or here (http://podcasts.thestranger.com/).

Forrest
01-31-2008, 08:15 AM
He has a podcast? Sweet mother mcguillicutty! I need this!!

Yes you do. Savage Love is my favorite non-Word Balloon podcast, hands down! :thumb:

Akira
01-31-2008, 08:18 AM
You can get it through iTunes or here (http://podcasts.thestranger.com/).

Thank you so much

ClintP
01-31-2008, 08:22 AM
"Death grip"? Goddamn guys what are yall doing with your penis? Man be gentle. Your not doing auto asphyxiation, your stroking your salami.

:rofl: My thoughts exactly.

Ben
01-31-2008, 08:25 AM
:rofl: My thoughts exactly.Your thoughts are of me masturbating?

adam_warlock_2099
01-31-2008, 08:26 AM
Your thoughts are of me masturbating?

:mistrust: He's thinking about you while masterbating.

adam_warlock_2099
01-31-2008, 08:27 AM
:rofl: My thoughts exactly.

I don't treat my hand like a whore, but like the girl next door (when I discovered masterbating anyway).

Skatonic10
01-31-2008, 08:35 AM
Can't wait to see who they get to be the spokesperson for the medicine that corrects "vaginal ejaculation disorder".

Heck, I can't wait to see the commercials, needless to say the spokesperson!

jess
01-31-2008, 08:53 AM
i blame anime :D

Joe Kalicki
01-31-2008, 08:56 AM
I blame offshore nuclear testing.

Dreaded Anomaly
01-31-2008, 09:09 AM
This is even worse than the "sex is a chore" thread.

Seriously, I'll sign up to be a research subject for this cause.

JBElliott
01-31-2008, 09:13 AM
It's because women don't give it up to young guys!

When a guy is young and starts masturbating he does so because he can't get women to give him sex. If the women would give him sex, he wouldn't get hooked on masturbating.

So in the end, like many things, it's all women's fault.

;)

Gunter
01-31-2008, 09:15 AM
Damn. That explains a lo...

Hey, how about that winter weather.

Fourthman
01-31-2008, 09:18 AM
Sounds like they need this ancient anti-masturbation device that's up on eBay right now.

http://www.curiousscience.com/ebay_images/onan2.jpg

Ben
01-31-2008, 09:19 AM
Sounds like they need this ancient anti-masturbation device that's up on eBay right now.

http://www.curiousscience.com/ebay_images/onan2.jpgI like that they put breathing holes in for the balls.

jess
01-31-2008, 09:29 AM
Sounds like they need this ancient anti-masturbation device that's up on eBay right now.

http://www.curiousscience.com/ebay_images/onan2.jpg

whoa. are the holes in the pee-pee for umm, peeing through?

ClintP
01-31-2008, 09:34 AM
Your thoughts are of me masturbating?

:mistrust: He's thinking about you while masterbating.

... No, the part where Warlock tells them to ease up on their shit yo.

ClintP
01-31-2008, 09:35 AM
I like that they put breathing holes in for the balls.

It helps them breath better when you are playing sports.

Joe Kalicki
01-31-2008, 09:35 AM
Excessive masturbation means having to wash more loads of underwear.

nwspencer
01-31-2008, 09:40 AM
It's because women don't give it up to young guys!

When a guy is young and starts masturbating he does so because he can't get women to give him sex. If the women would give him sex, he wouldn't get hooked on masturbating.

So in the end, like many things, it's all women's fault.

;)

WOW.

I seriously applaud your logic here.

case solved.

Fourthman
01-31-2008, 09:45 AM
whoa. are the holes in the pee-pee for umm, peeing through?

Either that or a cheese strainer.

Mylazycat
01-31-2008, 09:48 AM
Excessive masturbation means having to wash more loads of underwear.

:mistrust:

http://www.gdargaud.net/Humor/Pics/DoingItWrong.jpg

Andrew
01-31-2008, 10:08 AM
It's because women don't give it up to young guys!

When a guy is young and starts masturbating he does so because he can't get women to give him sex. If the women would give him sex, he wouldn't get hooked on masturbating.

So in the end, like many things, it's all women's fault.

;)

Quoted for truth. :lol:




:scared:

JBElliott
01-31-2008, 11:02 AM
Too bad I couldn't point to that study when I was younger!

Kirblar
01-31-2008, 11:04 AM
You know what's oddly caused problems sometimes?

Not enough friction.

changingshades
01-31-2008, 11:48 AM
deathgrip is just so wrong.

:nonono2:

Gregory
01-31-2008, 11:50 AM
deathgrip is just so wrong.

:nonono2:

Should I have mentioned Savage's repeated reference to guys squeezing their dicks between the mattress and box frame?

ClintP
01-31-2008, 11:52 AM
Should I have mentioned Savage's repeated reference to guys squeezing their dicks between the mattress and box frame?

:dead: