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HoboJuice
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:16 PM |
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so boardbiatch is the newest incarnation of pabs? |
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BoardBiatch
Talker
Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:19 PM |
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Hobo, I am your father
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Nathalie25
Board Legend
Joined: Aug 24, 2004
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:41 PM |
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i don't know, depends on what you really want, maybe 2 maybe 4 maybe all guys of here~~~~~~ |
_________________ 功高盖主,必有祸出。人生是人类生命中内心和万般经历的真实写照。 http:/ |
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shanghaiceltic
Board Royalty
Joined: Sep 20, 2005
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:41 PM |
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One is having a sh!tty afternoon one is... |
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Nathalie25
Board Legend
Joined: Aug 24, 2004
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:46 PM |
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one is in home doing english homework~~~~~~~
• Build up trust, integrity and credibility. This is a key factor in any negotiation but more so in China where personal relationships and feelings are held to be so important. I remember a case when a sales manager had a natural flair for explaining things on a whiteboard, so much so that the Chinese negotiation leader called him a ‘professor’, and believed all he said, even when explaining why he had to increase his prices by 5 per cent! If you can demonstrate your expertise and experience then you will get respect. Similarly, if you have participated in some prestige project in China, do not be afraid to make something of that, because the Chinese will be impressed. As a friend of mine said rightly, the Chinese will buy into the person, rather than into a company or product.
The converse applies. If the Chinese take a dislike to you for some reason (for example, for showing disrespect, or for having a bad temper, or for being arrogant), then you won’t earn their respect, and they won’t give you the business.
• Identify the key decision-makers. You will meet many people around the table and you will have to judge quickly who are the key players. Sometimes you will only meet this person at the dinner table but he or she will have been briefed on your performance during the negotiation. The ones who ask the most questions are not necessarily the most influential. It is no use pressing a Chinese negotiator on a particular point if he or she is not a key decision-maker. This will only lead to a lot of time-wasting and frustration. Either wait until the key decision-maker is present or give the Chinese side time to have their internal discussion. Although the general manager of a factory may be leading the discussions with the foreigners, he or she may still have a Board chairman, various local government leaders and a parent company in Beijing to contend with, the so-called ‘mothers-in-law’ in Chinese, who contribute little value-added to any discussion but have the power to cause no end of disruption. (As a corollary, the Chinese side will often admire the fact that you can make decisions over a wide range of issues without having to involve a huge team of colleagues).
l Be indifferent to cultural differences. Certain behaviour in China will take some getting used to and should not affect your judgement or attitude towards a person, such as the habit of spitting (though this is not so common these days), taking mobile phone calls during a meeting or smoking without asking if you object (as I talked about in the first part). Just remember that Chinese people find it disgusting that we can blow our noses into a dirty looking-handkerchief and then put the damp rag back into our pockets.
l Play up your foreignness when appropriate. There is still some extra respect given to foreigners, the ‘big noses’, especially further away from the coastal cities. Being a foreigner will mean you can gain access to senior officials, and also get away with some behaviour which would otherwise not be accepted among Chinese themselves, such as not addressing senior managers by their proper titles, raising your voice in anger and poor table manners. Being able to say a few words in Chinese or to use chopsticks will earn you brownie points.
• Never treat or talk to persons across the table as though they were inferior. I cannot do better than quote here from G. Wade Rule’s Rules of Negotiation, in which he states his belief in the need for a basic humility when negotiating. “Do not infer, when I stress fairness and humility in foreign negotiations, that these are intended as substitutes or alternatives to being businesslike, firm and making the very best possible arrangement. Remember this, most of the countries you may deal with have centuries of history and negotiating experience behind them. Foreign countries have great national pride, an understandable sensitivity concerning their sovereignty, and a great body of custom and usage that has been built up through the centuries. All of these factors must be understood, respected, and considered in any negotiation, but they need not minimise nor alter a sound, common sense, business-like approach to any question under negotiation. Such an approach will, I assure you, gain a healthy respect from them if handled with humility and understanding.” |
_________________ 功高盖主,必有祸出。人生是人类生命中内心和万般经历的真实写照。 http:/ |
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Nathalie25
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:48 PM |
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English makes me fool, I know~~~~ |
_________________ 功高盖主,必有祸出。人生是人类生命中内心和万般经历的真实写照。 http:/ |
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mrpango
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:56 PM |
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Its not the English that makes you a fool... |
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shanghaiceltic
Board Royalty
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Jan 31, 2008 - 03:58 PM |
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Nathalie25 wrote: |
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English makes me fool, I know~~~~ |
Drink does that to me.... |
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BoardBiatch
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Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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Jan 31, 2008 - 04:11 PM |
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green M&M's does that to me |
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CoffeeHawk_0
Board Buddha
Joined: July 14, 2005
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Jan 31, 2008 - 11:04 PM |
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Any bets on if it will get ~3C warmer by Feb. 6th? |
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cantcheckemailnopw
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Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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Jan 31, 2008 - 11:16 PM |
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How to get banned from the My Pretty Pony forum
[moderator: we can certainly accommodate you if that is what you want ] |
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SnappySammy
Shanghai Royalty
Joined: Nov 01, 2007
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Jan 31, 2008 - 11:57 PM |
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BoardBiatch wrote: |
green M&M's does that to me |
very interesting! |
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CoffeeHawk_0
Board Buddha
Joined: July 14, 2005
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Feb 01, 2008 - 07:04 AM |
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Ah-ah-ahhhh-ah, ah-ah-ahhh-ah
We're in the land of the ice and snow
From the midnight sun where the hot pot flows
Hammer of the PSB
We'll drive our Buicks to Carrefour
To fight the locals for a kwai
Fifi, I am coming
On we sweep-we with expat packages
Our only goal will be the big beer store
Ah-ah-ahhhh-ah, ah-ah-ahhh-ah |
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shanghaiceltic
Board Royalty
Joined: Sep 20, 2005
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Feb 01, 2008 - 07:17 AM |
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/\ Good one
TFIF!
Had a weird taxi driver this morning. Seemed normal enough, but then started talking to himself all the way to the office. He seemed to be upset by any red traffic lights and gave them a good bit of verbal abuse, any other driver coming within a metre of the taxi also got the verbal...
On getting to the office he then puts on the thickest set of glasses I have ever seen so he can count the money and check the receipt! |
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shanghaiceltic
Board Royalty
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Feb 01, 2008 - 07:29 AM |
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More Japanese weirdness....a new twist on kitty..
Tied-up toys the latest accessory for submissive cellphones
Cyzo (February)
Mobile phone strap artist Hirotsugu Itsuji is bound for glory. Or at least his bondage-themed soft toys are, according to Cyzo (February).
Itsuji's hand-made Bondage Strap toys are the hottest fashion accessories in Tokyo's trend-conscious gay quarter of Shinjuku Ni Chome.
His cutesy animal and fruit stuffed toys are bound in intricate bondage knots, and come all ready to be tied up to your cell phone. In fact, so popular have Itsuji's rope-bound products proved, they've currently sold out.
"They're all handmade. And I can't get production to keep up with the demand," he tells Cyzo. "I got a company to make them for me at one time, but the end product wasn't too good. I thought it was better to have a high quality product if I wanted my art to lead to something better in the future, so I do them all myself."
Apart from people, Itsuji says he'll give anything a bondage look. Among the more than 300 different types of objects he's wrapped up in rope have been stuffed animals and dolls across all sorts of genres, with tortoises and bunnies his best sellers. His knots have impressed even professional bondage exponents.
"One guy looked at my work and said the bondage techniques were incredible for an amateur," he says.
Itsuji got his break in bondage toys by daring to be different.
"There's no fun in bringing out something that's plain ordinary, right?" he asks rhetorically. "And that's where I came up with the idea of tying up toys with a bit of string and hanging them off mobile phones."
Despite the underground success of his work, the artist says he has no particular interest in the world of sadomasochism.
"I'm totally into the normal stuff," he tells Cyzo. "I've actually tried bondage a few times myself, but each time I was getting tied up, I came to the conclusion that I'm not really into that kind of thing. I was really disappointed. I don't really get why some people find tying others up to be a turn-on." (By Ryann Connell) |
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Nathalie25
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Feb 01, 2008 - 07:54 AM |
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my pic~~~~ |
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GC
The Ginger Prince
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Feb 01, 2008 - 08:14 AM |
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treespirit
Post Roaster
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Feb 01, 2008 - 08:53 AM |
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We will be getting our puppy! He's so cute, can't wait to go get him...Arf! |
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shanghaiceltic
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Feb 01, 2008 - 08:59 AM |
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Good luck with the new addition TS. He looked a beaut, glad Mrs SC did not see the pic...she likes anything small and furry....except me. |
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GC
The Ginger Prince
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treespirit
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Feb 01, 2008 - 09:06 AM |
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^haha. It was a possible issue only because many rescue groups want to be able to do a home inspection and follow-ups. I will drive to get him. |
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Magnolia
Board Biatch
Joined: June 01, 2004
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Feb 01, 2008 - 09:14 AM |
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congrats on the new puppy, TS! he is such a cutie! |
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mrpango
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Feb 01, 2008 - 09:19 AM |
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Another 3 days of work.... Sigh... |
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Magnolia
Board Biatch
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Feb 01, 2008 - 09:34 AM |
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three days and then you take a break, mrpango! put a positive spin on it!
(but it does suck to have to work the weekend)
TGIF!
must be productive this morning. can't remember what time the banks open, but thought is was 10:00 (or at least the branch where i used to live opened then, other branches may open earlier). hope it's not too cold out there! |
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mrpango
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Feb 01, 2008 - 09:34 AM |
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TGIF doesn't apply!!!!
But its not like I have anything to do |
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