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May 28th, 2008

Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again)

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 4:41 am

Categories: Vista, Windows client, Corporate strategy, Channel, System builders, OEMs, Resellers, Windows 7

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

It sounds like Microsoft is aiming to get Windows 7 out earlier than it promised — at least if you believe the company’s CEO.

During his fireside chat with Chairman Bill Gates at the D6 conference on May 27, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer acknowledged that Microsoft was aiming to deliver Windows 7 in late 2009.

For those of you who’ve attempted to follow Microsoft’s conflicting ship-date commitments for its next version of the Windows client, that is a month or two earlier than Microsoft execs said just yesterday morning (via a Q&A with Microsoft’s Windows Engineering Chief Steven Sinofsky).

Microsoft’s party line has been that Windows 7 will ship three years from the date that Vista became generally available. And that’s where things have gotten a bit squishy. Microsoft began offering Vista to its business customers in the fall of 2006 and to consumers in January 2007.

When I asked Microsoft for yet another clarification on Windows 7’s ship date last night, executives said the difference between Ballmer’s latest pronouncement and Microsoft’s stated timeframe was “really only a matter of a month or two.” Remember; Microsoft’s Windows team’s new mantra is underpromise and overdeliver. It looks better to say you will ship in 2010 and actually deliver in 2009 than it does to say 2009 and have your due date slip into the next year.

The reason this “month or two” matters is because of the holiday PC sales season. With Vista, Microsoft missed getting code to its PC partners early enough for them to preload it on machines they sold during the holidays. I’d bet the new Windows regime is doing its darndest to make sure history doesn’t repeat itself here.

All those folks who bet on a 2009 Windows 7 ship date in my ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott’s date pool are sitting prettier as of today.

Meanwhile, speaking of ongoing uncertainties, will developers attending Microsoft’s Professional Developers Conference the last week of October get alpha/Community Technology Preview (CTP) bits of Windows 7? That’s been the rumor for a while now, but Microsoft still isn’t saying. As of May 28, however, registration for the PDC is now open. Given that Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie is keynoting, it’s a safe bet Live Mesh and the accompanying development kit for that will be on the PDC agenda….

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RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again)
I would not "upgrade" to vista, but instead wait for Windows 7, or else it is pretty much a waste of money.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: dan2733 Posted on: 07/10/08 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
I don't care about it. I stick with Vista qmlscycrajg   | 05/28/08
Me too, but I'll also load Win 7 on my machine and dual boot <nt> xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
Me too, but I'll also load Win7 + XP on my machine and dual boot - NT raycote   | 05/28/08
I ... I ... I ... mean triple boot! - NT raycote   | 05/28/08
I knew that is probably what you meant... JCitizen   | 06/05/08
Message has been deleted. cameljockey   | 05/28/08
Agreed: I dual Vista and Ubuntu... OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
Vista rocks but the Ubuntu is very cool tech_walker   | 05/29/08
WIN7 Now late el_condor_1@...   | 05/29/08
Vista upgrade is the best OS I have ever used! Abner Kravitz   | 05/31/08
Give it da Boot bschecter@...   | 05/31/08
Happy Vista User Abner Kravitz   | 05/31/08
When you can't respect someone's experience..... xuniL_z   | 06/03/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) chrome_slinky@...   | 05/28/08
journeyer58 journeyer58@...   | 05/28/08
Um...can we say FUD? JT82   | 05/28/08
re: Vista running for 9 months. Me_too   | 05/28/08
Um..No.. JT82   | 05/29/08
They cannot handle the truth...don't worry. OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
Oh my. xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) Jeremy W   | 05/28/08
More nonsense timiteh   | 05/28/08
Apple has nothing worth copying. bjbrock   | 05/28/08
Apple not worth copying? credmedia   | 05/28/08
As if Apple never copies timiteh   | 05/28/08
Don't forget about the Xerox PARC GUI... transposeIT   | 05/29/08
Yep - and that was when Apple's lawsuit - was dropped or pulled. OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
xerox? Hogleg   | 05/29/08
Before Apple get into more aesthetic features for the Mac... transposeIT   | 05/29/08
apple cameljockey   | 05/28/08
I get the tongue and cheek but actually my Daughters 80Gig Zune has held up OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
AAPL's first phone failed miserably, hence them turning to MSFT xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
Stop making things up ! - NT raycote   | 05/28/08
Nice reply. Short, curt and without.... xuniL_z   | 05/28/08
What is made up ? Hemlock Stones   | 05/28/08
I think you mean to say, "anything" xuniL_z   | 05/29/08
raving lunatic cameljockey   | 05/28/08
Not quite so fast. Raymond Danner   | 05/29/08
I switched from *unx to Windows and it's the best move of my life xuniL_z   | 05/30/08
Apple never takes others idea's-let's see Michael L Hereid Sr   | 05/28/08
And some more timiteh   | 05/29/08
Pinch yourself - your in your play world again...nt OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) bubblesroe@...   | 05/28/08
Translation - you like what your used to, as do we all - NT raycote   | 05/28/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) ramnet@...   | 05/28/08
Cooooool new interfaces??? erik.t   | 05/28/08
My performance is great...not sure what you are complaining about... OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
Unable to Listen X41   | 05/28/08
XP U.I is outdated timiteh   | 05/29/08
sorry merc2dogs`   | 05/29/08
An input device based on haptic and multitouch touch screen technology timiteh   | 05/30/08
Microsoft dumped the MinWin kernel. [nt] olePigeon   | 05/28/08
and bolted it onto Windows 2008 Server Clewin   | 05/28/08
Not the same OS and winFS has been dead for a few years. xuniL_z   | 06/02/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) StevenHodson   | 05/28/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) magicmanvb@...   | 05/28/08
Outdated O.S timiteh   | 05/30/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) g.t.nowell@...   | 05/28/08
msg to Balmer, et al: take your time foos ttocsmij   | 05/28/08
Sounds like SP2 johnfenjackson@...   | 05/28/08
More like XP for 2000 timiteh   | 05/29/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) erniem1970@...   | 05/28/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) Mr. Dee   | 05/28/08
If it is better than XP I'll be thrilled! boed   | 05/28/08
Whoops - should have put Windows Server 2008 boed   | 05/28/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) shenry4@...   | 05/28/08
I Dub Thee Queen Of FUD itanalyst2@...   | 05/28/08
LOL re:"lackofitanalyst" - isn't that the pot calling the Kettle black - nt OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
withdrawn erik.t   | 05/28/08
My Guess was..... revealdatruth   | 05/28/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) wmjzyrk@...   | 05/28/08
Windows 7: Late 2009 deliverable (FIRM) graham.lv   | 05/28/08
The faster Win7 arrives, the quicker we can get Vista behind us SteveMak   | 05/29/08
Apple's ads rtk   | 05/29/08
The Mac Ads are very childish... OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
Yes they are childish tech_walker   | 05/29/08
Why? M$ makes money either way... JCitizen   | 06/05/08
But they are gaining market share tech_walker   | 05/29/08
Are they? rtk   | 05/29/08
Love the MAC ads - Vista sales are hype Thomas Moser   | 07/01/08
The faster Win7 arrives, the more likely GOTBO   | 05/29/08
All OSes are full of bugs at release, from OSX to Linux to windows xuniL_z   | 05/30/08
Your expectations have been artificially lowered: SpikeyMike   | 06/04/08
Your expectations are unrealistic. rtk   | 06/04/08
As requested... SpikeyMike   | 06/05/08
Not a chance rtk   | 06/05/08
WELL..... Esther mikeholli   | 06/24/08
Let's get over it! mikeholli   | 05/29/08
Agree: Vista on -now - 4 machines and works great OU812_BABY   | 05/29/08
Please point out rtk   | 05/29/08
Here you go rtk mikeholli   | 06/24/08
I'm still sticking with late 2010 or 2011 tech_walker   | 05/29/08
Driver model isn't changing. rtk   | 05/29/08
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that Microsoft mhenriday   | 05/30/08
it's been said for 18 months now rtk   | 05/30/08
The inevitability of an upgrade... SpikeyMike   | 06/04/08
Sounds like the direction I would have taken... JCitizen   | 06/05/08
Don't believe the hype. mikeholli   | 06/24/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) The Rifleman   | 07/09/08
RE: Windows 7: Now a late 2009 deliverable (again) dan2733   | 07/10/08

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  • This is total panic, isn't it? Or maybe the last desperate attempt ...
    This is total panic, isn't it? Or maybe the last desperate attempt at a stand by the Windows / Desktop faction inside M$ ... "we will get it right, next time, honest"? But they won't. And it doesn't matter. The world has moved on and ...

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  • Windows 7: To wait or not to wait? That is the question
    With Windows 7 poised to begin private testing any time now and to ship by late 2009 , a number of business users are wondering whether they should simply skip Windows Vista all together and wait for 7 instead. Microsoft, not surprisingly, is advising customers against taking

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  • Windows 7: To wait or not to wait? That is the question
    Microsoft, not surprisingly, is advising customers against taking a pass on Vista. As part of a new white paper aimed at influencing business...

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