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Nouciel
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Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: C-ute = greatness x7!
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| SMAPcracklepop wrote: |
Anyway, what I really came into this thread for was to ask: Is it just me, or does C-ute get styled way more maturely than Berryz? Don't get me wrong, I really like both groups and this isn't a C-ute hate post, but I think it's fairly obvious that they are being marketed in a much more mainstream, "hip" way than Berryz ever was.
I applaud C-ute's success and their songs are amazing. I only wish I could see the BK girls in a similar style once in a while, instead of cutesy costumes every single (or VERY BEAUTY hobo clown clothes)  Like Mr. Z elaborated, I'm not hoping for BK to become some international overnight sensation, it's just a personal preference of how I would like to see BK styled, every now and again, based on my belief in their potential to pull it off with flying colors. That's HP for ya. I'll still support them both. |
I still find it shocking how C-ute changed in less than three years (the time that Berryz has been around) :
C-ute's success wouldn't be as good if they were labeled as "the HPK group", like once Berryz was... but eventually people recognised them as "Berryz Koubou" (imo, this achievement was mainly because of the chemistry between them and the confidence they shown, something that C-ute lacked TERRIBLY in their early days). C-ute has quickly progressed because of the promo they got (TV show, radioshow, a stable section in a magazine -all of this before they officially debuted-), they've been and are a busy group, but since Berryz gained a somewhat 'loyal' fanbase (concerts are always sold out, Berryz PBs always place high in rankings, but they're yet to break the 25k mark), I think they're gonna keep the Berryz as we know them now.
There's been quite some talk on the topic of C-ute going to Kouhaku and Berryz being their backdancers. Those are purely rumours, but I find them amusing. I mean, Berryz started as W backdancers... |
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rll
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Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Location: waiting
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Zunu wrote: | | Not really. I'm into H!P because I find them damn entertaining. My only point was that H!P anime tie-ins are mostly lame and it bugs me that some upstart project immediately gets hooked up with high quality anime. |
Ah yes of course, they win on the overall package. I guess my point was they could improve the individual elements that comprise that overall package -- like the anime tie-ins. And you said it best that it sucks that they've been doing anime tie-ins yet some upstart group does it better. 
| ampedechoz wrote: | | they are stuck forever with TVTokyo. Robi, Kirarin, Shugo Chara, Haromoni are TVTokyo. |
It's not a bad thing to be stuck with tv tokyo (bleach, naruto, etc.). What's bad is to be stuck with the crappy anime of tv tokyo. 
| syrup wrote: | | Their music fits those type of animes, unlike AKB's. They're trying to target younger girls. I also violently am against the entrance of idols into voice acting - professionally trained VA's aren't that great, but I've gotten a new appreciation after watching Kirarin Revolution and I have nothing against Koharu. |
I'm thinking your comment is because you're not an anime watcher? (not sure). There are plenty of good anime that target young girls like haruhi suzumiya, azumanga daioh, etc. If they can ony do a tie-in with passable anime like fushigi yuugi for example.
And just because young girls sing the theme doesn't mean that the anime has to be for young girls too. After all, their fans aren't young girls only. |
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syrup
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Joined: 19 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Haruhi Suzumiya and Azumanga Daioh are seinen. (Older males)
I'm saying that Tsunku wants to target these young girls into buying their CD's... they have enough male fans... it's not a bad thing. |
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Zenen
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
Location: Higher, higher!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Makoto lately |
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Lu Lu Lu
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Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Location: USA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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^ Thanks!! She's so pretty in that picture  |
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ScyllaIo
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Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: New York
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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YAY! Makoto!
My first love of H!P |
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are you me
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Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Location: Malaysia
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| SMAPcracklepop wrote: | Anyway, what I really came into this thread for was to ask: Is it just me, or does C-ute get styled way more maturely than Berryz? Don't get me wrong, I really like both groups and this isn't a C-ute hate post, but I think it's fairly obvious that they are being marketed in a much more mainstream, "hip" way than Berryz ever was.
I applaud C-ute's success and their songs are amazing. I only wish I could see the BK girls in a similar style once in a while, instead of cutesy costumes every single (or VERY BEAUTY hobo clown clothes) Like Mr. Z elaborated, I'm not hoping for BK to become some international overnight sensation, it's just a personal preference of how I would like to see BK styled, every now and again, based on my belief in their potential to pull it off with flying colors. That's HP for ya. I'll still support them both. |
well, only thing that i can think of now is time, let's just wait for a little longer, but if we looked at a different aspect, Berryz had more mature songs more then C-ute, now i'm worried about both group, i mean do you think Berryz & C-ute will stay long, i mean just imagine if both groups survive like 10 years from now, i won't call C-ute cute anymore, i think Berryz have the chance survive for a long time because their group name are quite similar to like Melon kinenbi? but then if C-ute is going to dissolve then i think Berryz will also dissolve, because i think UF probably is up to something like new units |
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SMAPcracklepop
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Joined: 02 Aug 2005
Location: Ii wake kurai shite mite yoooo~
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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ZENEN!!!!
When I saw that picture it took me by surprise and I made a sound like GUURAGHHHH!!! It was unsettling. 
But thanks for the picture! |
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Starra
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Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: All of H!P inside 100x100 pixels...
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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If H!P consisted only of Eggs (based on the outfits they wore for their first concert):
C-ute
Wada Ayaka (Erika)
Arai Manami (Maimai)
Fukuda Kanon (Maimi)
Yutoku Ayumi (Saki)
Ogawa Saki (Airi)
Maeda Yuuka (Kanna/Chisato)
MM
Furukawa Konatsu (Linlin)
Aoki Erina (Sayumi)
Sawada Yuri (Koharu)
Korenaga Miki (Junjun)
Mano Erina (Takahashi)
Kikkawa Yuu (Aika)
Sengoku Minami (Eri)
Mutou Mika (Risa)
Noto Arisa (Reina)
Viyuden
Mori Saki (Yui)
Tanaka Anri (Erika)
Berryz
Komine Momoka (Momoko)
Sainen Mia (Maasa)
Saho Akari (Yurina)
Maeda Irori (Risako)
Sekine Azusa (Miyabi)
Okai Asuna (Chinami)
Kitahara Sayaka (Saki)
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Ongaku Gatas setlist:
1. Narihajimatta Koi no Bell
2. Sukiyaki
3. Popcorn Love!
4. HOW DO YOU LIKE JAPAN?
5. Gag 100kaibun Aishite Kudasai / Sawada Yuri, Sengoku Minami, Mano Erina, Mutou Mika, Korenaga Miki, Noto Arisa
6. Senpai ~Love Again~ / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Satoda Mai, Konno Asami, Ishikawa Rika
7. Honto no Jibun / Noto Arisa, Mutou Mika, Sawada Yuri
8. Kokoro no Tamago / Sengoku Minami, Mano Erina, Korenaga Miki
9. Mr Moonlight ~Ai no Big Band~ / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Satoda Mai, Konno Asami, Ishikawa Rika
10. Yukigeshiki / Satoda Mai
11. Some Boys! Touch / Yoshizawa Hitomi
12. Anata Iro / Ishikawa Rika
13. LOVE Namida Iro / Konno Asami
14. Otoko Tomodachi / Mano Erina
15. JINX / Segnoku Minami, Korenaga Miki
16. Dekiru Onna / Konno Asami, Satoda Mai
17. Bokura no Kagayaki / Mutou Mika, Sawada Yuri, Noto Arisa
18. Melodies / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Ishikawa Rika
19. Mushoku Toumei na mama de / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Konno Asami
20. Koi no Hexagon / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Satoda Mai
21. Iroppoi Onna ~SEXY BABY~ / Ishikawa Rika, Sawada Yuri, Korenaga Miki
22. Chokotto Love / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Satoda Mai, Mano Erina
23. Mirakururun Grand Purin / Konno Asami, Mutou Mika, Mano Erina, Noto Arisa
24. Issai Gassai Anata ni Ageru / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Konno Asami, Ishikawa Rika
25. Do It! Now / Yoshizawa Hitomi, Sawada Yuri, Sengoku Minami, Mano Erina, Mutou Mika, Korenaga Miki, Noto Arisa
26. Uwaki na Honey Pie / Satoda Mai, Konno Asami, Ishikawa Rika
27. Aoi Sports Car no Otoko
28. Kanashimi Twilight
29. Yattarouze!
30. BE ALL RIGHT
31. DREAMIN' ~Gatas Brilhantes H.P. no Ouenka~ |
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rll
Elite Member
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Location: waiting
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| syrup wrote: | | Haruhi Suzumiya and Azumanga Daioh are seinen. (Older males). I'm saying that Tsunku wants to target these young girls into buying their CD's... they have enough male fans... it's not a bad thing. |
oh, so you meant really young girls. 
Well, there's dnangel, fruits basket, etc. for shoujo. I think though that when you come out with the anime version of a manga, it reaches out to a broader audience than the intended because of the nature of television. But that's just me.
In any case, is it a fact that it was tsunku that approached the folks behind the anime to do the tie-in because he intended to target very young girls? After all, he has nothing to do with kirari. Is it a calculated move by tsunku or a non-calculated one and they were the ones approached to do the song? |
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Starra
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Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: All of H!P inside 100x100 pixels...
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Egg! Project, now with extra shitty edits:
Egg Musume. / えっぐ娘。
Left to right: Sawada Yuri, Furukawa Konatsu, Sengoku Minami, Mano Erina, Kikkawa Yuu, Noto Arisa, Mutou Mika, Aoki Erina, Korenaga Miki
šE-ggs / エッグス
Left to right: Wada Ayaka, Fukuda Kanon, Ogawa Saki, Arai Manami, Yutoku Ayumi, Maeda Yuuka
Eggyz Koubou / Eggyz工房:
Left to right: Sekine Azusa, Okai Asuna, Komine Momoka, Sainen Mia, Maeda Irori, Kitahara Sayaka
Tamago / 田真後
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boinsie
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Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: California
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like that at all.  |
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Mugen
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Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Erika Sawajiri - Japan's #1 Actress. RESPECT!!! LOL NVM GONE FOR A YEAR, THATS HOT
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| Zenen wrote: |
Makoto lately |
the girl >>> makoto |
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Nozomi Yamada
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Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Yoshizawa Hitomi. Making girls question their sexuality since 1985.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Makoto is lookin' good! |
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are you me
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Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Location: Malaysia
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| boinsie wrote: | | I don't like that at all. |
awww, I miss Mako, please come back early |
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