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[–]darkfangs 165ポイント166ポイント  (26子コメント)

if rich people have it so bad and poor people have it good then I see no problem for a rich person to become poor to live a better life. Doesn't seem that hard to me to make that transition if they wanted.

[–]cordial_carbonara 50ポイント51ポイント  (21子コメント)

I volunteer to help take some of that wealth off their hands since it's such a burden.

[–]Fauster 18ポイント19ポイント  (20子コメント)

Will I take extra money? No, my concern is that it will put me in a higher tax bracket.

[–]Hatefullynch 8ポイント9ポイント  (19子コメント)

I'd be dead from alcohol poisoning tonight if I got a fraction of what they had

Or cocain overdose

Maybe percocet

[–]Functionally_Drunk 4ポイント5ポイント  (18子コメント)

Why not all three?

[–]Hatefullynch 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

You have to share with the hookers

[–]11bulletcatcher 1ポイント2ポイント  (16子コメント)

Damn hookers and their Coke tax!!!

[–]Hatefullynch 0ポイント1ポイント  (15子コメント)

11b1p, I was an airborne bullet catcher!

[–]11bulletcatcher 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

Same here. Doesn't have the same ring to it though. I was 1-509th Geronimo. You?

[–]Hatefullynch 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

1-503rd! you stationed in germany?

[–]dustinechos 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. A million times over this. My mom's always bitching about how easy life is for illegal immigrants. She thinks they have better medical care and better schools than she does. She thinks that they make more in welfare than she makes at her job. I've tried saying "well why not just tear up your social security card and be an illegal immigrant?" Her eyes just glaze over for 30 seconds and then she goes back to the same rant.

[–]kennewickman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean give up my bidet?!

[–]Malolo_Moose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But as job creators they have a responsibility to remain rich. It's for the greater good!

[–]ryancaa 558ポイント559ポイント  (171子コメント)

I found the whole talking points memo

This screencap actually isn't taken out of context. He is literally bemoaning the taxation of the most affluent people in America. At one point in time he says "The bottom 60% of Americans pay just 2.7% of federal taxes" super disingenuous to say that considering he is factoring in any subsidies that people receive when just prior to saying it he said the IRS collected $3 trillion in revenue. Also considering that the bottom 60% of Americans own 4.2% of the wealth it would make sense that they only pay about 2.7% in after subsidy taxes.

But all that falls under the the category of "thinking" and who would care to do something crazy like that!?

[–]onemanlan 89ポイント90ポイント  (35子コメント)

The poor have it so damn good in this country. We should definitely tax the rich job creators less to allow them the freedoms the poor have.

[–]mtwestbr 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

But then who will pay for that next invasion so the GOP donors can get a nice revenue boost? Or keep all the poor in prison so that the law and order conservatives have jobs? Or pay out those damn socialist benefits that keep money flowing into the South where old white people live?

The sad reality is that red states are far more dependent on the government than they are willing to admit which is why spending never goes down to enable lower taxes and instead we just get more debt. The average conservative voter is living in a grand illusion.

[–]META_ME_YOUR_PM 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

or they could freely trade places with the poor and pay no tax. I am sure the poor wouldn't mind that either.

[–]xoites 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just don't feed the poor or you will end up in court.

[–]NBegovich 164ポイント165ポイント  (67子コメント)

I was installing cable until recently and what I think a lot of people don't understand is that Fox News really is corporate propaganda. It is the creepiest thing I have ever seen and it disgusts/frightens/enrages me any time I'm unfortunate enough to watch it. Most folks think others are exaggerating when they talk about how terrible it is, but it really is that bad.

[–]MentalUtopia 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fox News: Where the truth lies.

[–]RogueEyebrow 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also considering that the bottom 60% of Americans own 4.2% of the wealth it would make sense that they only pay about 2.7% in after subsidy taxes.

It's actually worse. The bottom 80% only have 5% financial wealth. Net worth for the bottom 80% isn't much better, at 11%.

Distribution percentage of Wealth over time. If you want something eye-opening, check out the percentage of how much the 1% controls investments: Top 1%: 50% of all investments. Top 10%: 87.9% of all investment assets. Bottom 90%: 12% of all investment assets. Which makes sense, if you think about it. Those with more money have more freedom to invest. [Edit:] added top 10% to investment assets.

[–]faggot_human_trash 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Shouldn't the ones with the most money be taxed the most anyway? That way everybody could be more equal? I'm 14 I don't know how this works.

[–]McSpoon202 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not but I'll take it at face value.

Yes, this is the basis of a progressive taxation system and come from the principle that the more you have of any one thing, the less value you place in it.

All people need water to live. Imagine a person in the desert, for days, without any liquids at all. How much would that person value even the smallest handful of water? Then imagine yourself, able to essentially run your tap forever and have as much water as you like.

Something similar is true for money. Your first, say, £10 a day buys you what you need to survive, like food and water. The next £10 allows you to buy something a little better, until all your needs are met. After which you spend your money on what you want but don't need. Eventually, you have everything you might want, at which point each additional £1 is essentially valueless to you, but could mean the difference between life and death for someone else.

Search you 'diminishing utility' if you're interested.

[–]Spektr44 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, naturally those with more money will pay more in absolute terms. Many rich actually pay taxes at a lower rate than the middle class, though, which is pretty outrageous. For example Mitt Romney paid around 14% tax on his income according to his released tax records. I'm just a regular Joe and I pay over 20%. According to Fox News, though, people like Romney pay too much and deserve a break.

[–]faggot_human_trash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds retarded, but I guess that's how it goes. Thanks

[–]DDancy 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

As an outsider. Can I just say.

Bill O'Reily is a massive cunt!

There I said it.

[–]TOO_DAMN_FAT 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the internet. You simply cannot cuss. It's unfathomable that anyone would.

[–]DDancy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do beg your pardon.

[–]Post-NapoleonicMan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rich get richer, poor get poorer - you can't explain that.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (40子コメント)

To be honest though, no matter how much money people made, a large bottom % would still own a small percentage of the wealth, because a lot of people would still not prioritize it over other things, even if they could save.

[–]Turdtastic 57ポイント58ポイント  (39子コメント)

That's not really the issue here. The wealthy are lining their pockets at the expense of the the poor and middle class who have seen stagnant wages for over a decade, meanwhile the rich get richer. That sound you hear in the distance? That's the shitstorm brewing over this issue. Our politicians have spent 3 decades polarizing this country and that's about to be undone with a quickness over income inequality.

[–]ryancaa 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Literally every civilization in the history of time has come to this problem. America can't ignore it and hope it goes away, and we can't underestimate it's severity.

[–]Turdtastic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree that's why the future is the upcoming backlash.

[–]vadiv 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good insight

[–]Fojaro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a non-american looking at this.. I can't help but scoff... but then I realise that people take this shit seriously and I'm sad.

[–]gamerlen 157ポイント158ポイント  (37子コメント)

Somedays I wonder if he's not just fucking with everyone.

[–]SkunkMonkey 108ポイント109ポイント  (12子コメント)

He is, it's his schtick. He knows how to pander to his viewers to keep his job. At this point he's probably brainwashed himself into believing his own bullshit.

[–]NotCobaltWolf 50ポイント51ポイント  (11子コメント)

I choose to believe he is actually pretty smart, he just does this for money.

[–]slash196 57ポイント58ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can be "pretty smart" and fall for idiotic shit like this. Ask a random doctor about how marginal tax rates work and be prepared to listen to a person who went to college for 10 years sound like they failed 7th grade math.

[–]mygrapefruit 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

I wonder what he'll do after he retires... redeem?

[–]roofuskit 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably invest in human trafficking or blood diamonds.

[–]Eggmont 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

*Continue to invest in

[–]roofuskit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or he might just become a real life captain planet villain.

[–]META_ME_YOUR_PM 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you like pray one time and it's all forgiven! #ChristianLifeHacks

[–]pikk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

get a part time job in "buy gold" advertisements

[–]Funemployment 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smart & Egomaniac.

[–]AFineWayToDie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Frankly, I think he serves an important purpose. In a world where the right hee-haws around stating how they feel to avoid looking out-of-touch with reality, O'Reilly just plainly states what the people who watch him really believe.

He's not spreading ignorance, he's putting a spotlight on the ignorance that is being spread clandestinely.

[–]Jedi_Outcast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how it started, but as you age, your brain turns to mush and all he can remember is his lies.

So he may have started out smart, but now he's drunk on his own stupid material.

[–]metaphasingit 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think he says these things just to get a rise out of people. In this case, it worked.

[–]Khumalo_Neurochem 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The old "howard stern effect." Glad to see it properly applied to politics. /s

[–]gamerlen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. A shock jock. Like Howard Stern coming from the other direction.

[–]pirate123 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm amazed at the people that believe his bullshit, something wrong with their thought process

[–]Khumalo_Neurochem 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

Rush limbaugh is just as insane, if not moreso, and somehow he is one of the largest radio programs in the united states. There aren't a lot of psychotically extreme liberal radio shows out there, and certainly none that get anywhere close to rush's size. I like to think that says something about the meaningless political divide.

[–]Jedi_Outcast 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

There aren't a lot of psychotically extreme liberal radio shows out there, and certainly none that get anywhere close to rush's size.

According to these faux-conservatives, ALL liberal radio is as extreme and as ridiculous as people claim Rush Limbaugh's show to be.

[–]Khumalo_Neurochem 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've heard people describe npr as the liberal equivalent to rush limbaugh, lol.

[–]Jedi_Outcast 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how you know they have never listened to it.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

NPR is deceitfully liberal.

[–]Ruzzymon 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

What does it say?

[–]Khumalo_Neurochem 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is it that hard to grasp the point i'm making there? There is a very large audience for ridiculously ignorant and extreme conservative propaganda, there isn't nearly as large an audience for ridiculously ignorant and extreme liberal propaganda. The people that listen to rush limbaugh are ignorant. There are a lot more ignorant conservatives then there are ignorant liberals.

edit: I a word.

[–]Ruzzymon 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Isn't news in general (I.E. New York Times, New York Post, CNN, stuff like that) primarily liberal? I'm not saying it's as extreme as Limbaugh, but it's certainly more widespread.

[–]Khumalo_Neurochem 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rupert Murdoch has a pretty solid hold on newsprint, but certainly not all of it. Doesn't matter at all though, because the relevant part of my point is that rush limbaugh is crazy extreme and the liberal equivalents get no where near his audience size.

[–]pikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

a little bit of leftism times a large volume of news isn't nearly as dangerous as a crazy amount of rightism in a somewhat smaller volume. also Fox News is the MOST WIDELY WATCHED news channel, so I don't think left leaning news is that much more widespread.

[–]gamerlen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not. I worked retail for ten years and if there's one thing I learned from it no matter how stupid you think humanity is there's always the one guy who'll walk past five signs that say 'No Alcohol Sales past 2:30 AM' at three in the morning and then act all shocked that we can't sell him beer.

[–]chinsalabim 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

The average age of his viewers is over 70. It's just him pandering to people who will soon be dead.

[–]Soupchild 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow do you have a quick source for that? That's just a really interesting figure.

[–]CareBearDontCare 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/may-cable-news-ratings-spare-no-one-189393.html

Edited to add:

But the majority of those viewers are over the age of 55. In fact, the median age for O'Reilly is now just over 72 years old. The average Fox News viewer overall is 68.8, while the average ages of MSNBC and CNN viewers were 62.5 and 62.8, respectively.

[–]gamerlen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, he knows how to keep his ratings up I guess.

[–]TripleEEE1682 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but these older folks have had children and grandchildren, and they have raised their children and grandchildren with similar values...

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tide goes in tide goes out, you can't explain that!

Actually yes we can we have been able to for a long time it has to do with the moon's position and its gravitational pull. It's basic science we learn in like 6th grade.

[–]Thesaurii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to work at a place that had fox news on 24/7, and my lunch breaks were the start of his show. The first five to ten minutes he is usually very reasonable, then suddenly changes and becomes a raving lunatic.

During those first five minutes he is a reasonable person, likely just himself. Then its time to kick in the bullshit for ratings.

[–]fdar 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know... If being poor is so great and being rich is so terrible, I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the greater good and take all your money.

[–]Malolo_Moose 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, God has decided that it is their burden to bear.

[–]groovetopia 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sad part (actually not really sad) is that a huge chunk of his supporters are actually poor and conservative and don't see anything but "hurr that Obama boy is taxing us poor!"

[–]dielon108 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well the lie works because those poor conservatives are being taxed too much.

[–]Malolo_Moose 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also because many of them are racist as fuck.

[–]Nikk6heatles 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Literally everyone in my town! 99% GOP supporters, 100% broke af.

[–]darktree27 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the truth! They are tightening their own nooses, but they don't realize it!

[–]ollokot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm one of those poor conservative people. Now I finally know why I haven't become a millionaire already -- Obama is taxing the wealthy so much that there just isn't enough incentive for people like me to become rich. /s

[–]GoodScumBagBrian 26ポイント27ポイント  (10子コメント)

I am a conservative and cannot stand this asshat. Him and Hannity are the worse asshats in all of the asshat kingdom

[–]11bulletcatcher 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

On top of bullshit mountain.

[–]GoodScumBagBrian 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

on planet Derpistopia

[–]NerdSeed[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the moon Cognitive Dissonance.

[–]DCorNothing 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hannity legitimately scares me.

[–]llamadeer 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't think of anyone I'd like to slap more than him. I've never hit anyone before though.

[–]DITCHWORK 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rush?

[–]llamadeer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's not mainstream enough to hit my radar anymore. I almost pity him, but Bill on the other hand needs to get pulled off his high horse.

[–]ralusek 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The less fortunate get all the breaks."

-Philip J. Fry

[–]clevelandrocks14 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

poor is the new rich and rich is the new black.

[–]pikk 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

where does orange fall in this?

[–]tapwater86 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The people who make enough to get taxed at 30% of their income but not enough to hire accounts to hide it or invest much. What we used to call the middle class.

[–]pikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

o, like me!

[–]tapwater86 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel it too. I think I lost 32% of my income last year to Federal and NY. I paid something like $26,000 in taxes. I got back $42.

[–]Hatefullynch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your saying we should beat the rich unjustly?

[–]MafiaInsane 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, being poor is great, being rich sucks, and the rich are being taxed poor, problem solved right?

[–]CanadianHoser 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe if poor Americans made more, they could be taxed more.

[–]GHDUDE17 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

STOP TRYING TO REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH YOU COMMIE FUCK.

[–]W00ster 57ポイント58ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is more Political Tragedy than Political Humor...

It is tragic that the US has a moron like this one on a fascistic propaganda channel pimped as a news channel which people actually watch and accept as the truth.

Only in Dumbfuckistan!

[–]Lots42 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

You think morons on propaganda channels are limited to America?

Man, what propaganda channel moron have you been listening to?

[–]strangeelement 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a matter of scale. In most countries, those morons are lucky if they break 1 million viewers. In the US, even a measly 10% is 30 million people (with fuzzy maths that use 10% of adult population out of total population), easily bringing in hundreds of millions in revenue.

I live in Quebec. We have those morons. Tens of thousands of people listen to them. That's barely a few millions per year, before costs. The size of the US is both a blessing and a curse.

[–]TheVelocirapture 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find the term "tragicomedy" is often pretty applicable when it comes to politics.

[–]kevie3drinks 26ポイント27ポイント  (32子コメント)

Trust me Bill, I am not Affluent, and still have to pay A LOT of taxes.

[–]MittensHasDiareah 16ポイント17ポイント  (31子コメント)

Not sure why you're getting downvoted.

People want to compare rates and total taxes paid. The problem is someone making 45,000 and having to pay 15% in taxes is going to take a harder hit than someone making 4million and paying the same. Plus, most rich people don't pay income tax, they pay taxes on their investments. Plus, comparing business taxes and taxes on an individuals doesn't make sense.

I don't believe the shit about job creators. Jobs created in the last decade are paying 30k or less. CEOs continue poor performance and receive millions in bonuses and stocks. Meanwhile, they just fire everyone or depress wages to make their numbers instead of growing their business.

[–]kevie3drinks 5ポイント6ポイント  (27子コメント)

My wife and I make right around 100k total, and my total tax burden is around 30% We have a home mortgage, but the standard deduction is high enough that our itemized deductions are lower than the standard deduction, and we essentially only have enough in savings to cover for any insurance deductibles if something bad happens.

I guess most people would say we are in a good position, but it's really stressful to manage my finances carefully then to find out that in April I owe the IRS another $500 or so.

I guess I should count my blessings that We don't have any state income taxes, but we do have sales tax, and toll roads all around us, and it's kind of hard to quantify how much money we doll out for that.

Seems like wealthier people assume they carry all of the tax burden, but as it stands now I feel like I am paying my fair share.

[–]slash196 14ポイント15ポイント  (18子コメント)

I just want to point out that in America, 100k for a married household is certainly a good position, but you are nowhere in the same universe as the people whose taxes Bill O'Reilly wants to be cut.

[–]kevie3drinks 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, It just makes me think "If 100k isn't enough, it doesn't matter how much I make, it won't be enough"

It's so hard to live within your means, between cable tv, mobile phones, and internet, the occasional road trip or vacation, I mean, what the hell more could I want? A bigger house, a better car, but those things don't matter much when you already have a decent house, and a couple decent cars.

[–]slash196 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Preach it man. The thing about capitalism is that, if you have the money, it will always find something else to sell you. The only way to win is to stop buying and be grateful for what you have.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why are liberals so concerned about redistribution?

Just be happy with what you have.

[–]slash196 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because I personally am comfortable but I know a lot of people who weren't as lucky as I have been who DO need the help (and I may also need the help myself one day).

[–]MittensHasDiareah 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I sometimes think 100k is awesome because I grew up in the 80s when that much money had real buying power. But when u translate that to today's buying power, it is much different. My husband and I don't have family near us and all of our friends work. For decent childcare for 2 kids, we pay around 16k. With 11k of that coming out of our net pay. My salary still makes it worth it for me to work. But I often wonder how people earning less than us make it happen. That's what I wish the 1% could see. I do pay less taxes than them, but the percentage I pay affects me more.

[–]pikk 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

100K is ok for 2 people.

If you make 100K on your own though, you're fucking set.

[–]tapwater86 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Comfortable sure. Set no. Even with 100k, depending where you live, that may dwindle down to rent, utilities, car, insurance, etc etc. You won't blow it all but you may save say 1k/mo. This is absolutely better than most Americans but you are by no means set. All it takes is an illness insurance doesn't cover, or some other thing and your savings is gone.

So again, comfortable but not set.

[–]pikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

fair. San Francisco and Silicon Valley really through off my calculations

[–]tapwater86 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Basically any of the top 15-25 major cities.

[–]pikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

no way dude. You can live really large in Dallas on 100K.

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

That entirely depends on where you live. On average? Yes. But last year my wife and I between our day jobs and our small business breached 200k. Half of that was self employed gross income, which is absurdly taxed - plus we have business expenses just to keep our business running. But with a Silicon Valley mortgage (small 3/1.5 home in a lesser-middle class neighborhood), and two kids we are effing broke.

And childcare is so expensive, so my wife quit her job to stay at home. Let me tell you... Now we have 150k a year gross and that is nothing around here. We have no savings, rarely eat out, don't shop, no extravagant vacations, and we just got slapped with a $5,000 car repair. We are hosed.

Also, thanks to our small business despite the kids, the mortgage interest, and other write-offs, we just wrote checks totalling $21k for taxes for the 2014 FY.

Are we better than some? Yes. Less than others? Yes. Are we scraping by? Absolutely. The American Dream is dead.

[–]slash196 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Half of that was self employed gross income, which is absurdly taxed

It's not absurdly taxed. You pay both halves of your SS/Medicare, just like all business owners. Any employee pays the same on their salary. The only difference is you actually see both halves before they're paid.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The absurdity of it is how lied to I feel I was about the benefits of starting your own business. There are reasons small businesses have a hard time thriving in this State and in this Country. It's effing hard.

On a side note - I still love it. Super rewarding.

[–]pikk 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

do you live in Texas?

[–]kevie3drinks 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

yep

[–]pikk 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

waves from north Dallas

[–]kevie3drinks 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey!

The Rockets are going to crush the mavs tonight! :)

[–]pikk 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sportsball is the best!

[–]shumonkey 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

30% seems absurdly high. Your effective tax rate for federal income tax should be about 11.5%. Throw 6% for FICA and you're at 18%. If you are not counting sales tax or tolls, and you don't have state income tax, where is the rest coming from? Are your property taxes really that high?

[–]dang90 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, clearly the whole Talking Points is insane.. and just not even that well written. But…

For small business owners with growing companies, taxes can be not only burdensome; but crush their growth. On every dollar brought in my family company (around $500,000 profit annual), the amount brought into the owner's bank after taxes is around 35 - 40 cents after payroll taxes, corporate state income tax (S-Corp status), and personal taxes. And, because the way the tax code is structured with quarterly tax payments regardless of cash flow ~ often you find yourself paying taxes for money that you haven't receive yet causing personal financial issues which often is your backup for company's financial situation….

[–]Jedi_Outcast 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't believe the shit about job creators. Jobs created in the last decade are paying 30k or less. CEOs continue poor performance and receive millions in bonuses and stocks. Meanwhile, they just fire everyone or depress wages to make their numbers instead of growing their business.

But they work really hard!

Way harder than the struggling retail worker who works 80 hours a week, but gets paid barely over 9$ an hour.

[–]Lazy_Genius 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made under 30k and paid about 38% in taxes. 1099 for the win.

[–]DongQuixote1 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's so awesome being poor, knowing that by forgoing healthcare, education, and a living wage you're doing the public service of allowing some rich guy to accumulate .002% more wealth in their cayman islands offshore holding account

[–]Gibbinsly 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, Billy Boy, you sure know how to profit from idiocy.

[–]slash196 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The less fortunate get all the breaks!

[–]lazlounderhill 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey if you say it long enough and enough times you can convince an exhausted, scared and stressed person that he's lucky to be a slave, lucky to do his "master" proud - that's all this shit is: mind control. Psychopathy, not the creme, rises to the top.

[–]quark2universe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

For the rich, being rich is a choice

[–]EoinMcLove 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called progressive taxation Bill. Look it up.

[–]silent_ovation 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know, and you can't even beat your servants anymore without the liberal media jumping all over it these days...tough times...

[–]NerdSeed[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To many, the Union were a bunch of SJWs intruding upon "property" rights.

[–]leslabas 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just cannot believe fox news is real. It blows my mind that people think like this.

[–]mauxly 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is....rich....

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

O'Reily?

[–]Buck_Thunderpumper 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still can't wait for Bill to stand up and take a bow for his lifetime commitment as a liberal satirist, making absurd social comments on hot topics of the day.

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[–]SenorBeef 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember the "Lucky duckies", the people who were to be envied because they were too poor to be required to pay income tax.

Sometimes I think rich people would rather make a million dollars at a 20 percent tax rate than 50 million at a 30 percent tax rate. They're more butthurt about the percentage of the tax than the amount they end up taking home after it.

[–]Michael5596 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"But mooooommmm i wanted the Mercedes s600!!!!"

"Sorry honey ull have to deal with ur s350"

[–]Felinomancy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone who thinks how bad it is being rich, and how lucky the poor are, is invited to give to me your assets. I will help you on the road of poor-dom.

[–]BlondeChemist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being rich is sooooo hard. With all the money I pay for taxes I cant afford another 20 cars. Fml

[–]PingDawg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do stupid people like him become rich?

[–]Yazaku 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The tax rate on the rich was between 90% and 70% from WWII to Reagan, and has essentially fallen ever since to about 35% now.

Yeah, they're through the roof.

[–]Apoplecticmiscreant 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've had the lowest taxes for over 50 years, but oddly, they would have us believe it's worse than ever. Lies flow constantly.

[–]Madjack66 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't get Fox News here in New Zealand on free-to-air channels but we did for some reason, get it in the early hours of the morning a few years ago now.

My impression of it then was that it was all about maintaining the status quo for monied interests in the US.

[–]PlayinWithGod 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just waiting for him to be caught unexpectedly on camera someday without make-up, and his true Emperor Palpatine-esque visage is revealed.

[–]MrDeanings 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahhhh Bill.

As usual moronic on so many levels....

Can't wait for The Trews to get their hands on this one

[–]Roflkopt3r 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing is more absurd than reality. This post made me laugh harder than any political joke or cartoon this year.

Poe's law right there, by Bill from the Falklands.

[–]Jakewilliamm 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ bill o'reily is fucking scum

[–]gadams9319 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This must have been what my dad was watching. He texted me saying how high taxes are if you make more than $400,000 a year. The man has lived off of social security for the past 10 years. Makes no sense.

[–]duckandcover 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

His audience, many of which are probably lower class rednecks barely making ends meet with help for gov't assistance of various sorts, are totally into it.

[–]wosh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep your damn governments hands off my welfare

[–]coryk83 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

When is his generation going to die already so we can start fixing everything they have fucked up for the last 40yrs?

[–]tennisdrums 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, because they have convinced a significant enough number of our generation that their insane perception of reality is the truth.

[–]Sanjuro7880 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude is a corporate "Gerber". Fucking multi-tool.

[–]Apollo3519 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we burn him at the stake already?

[–]boot2skull 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your situation greatly changes your perspective. There are two simplified ways we look at income in the media in my opinion. There's the percentage of your income that goes to taxes, which the rich complain about. Then there's the percentage of income that goes to basic living expenses, which the poor complain about.

Depending on where you live, there is an amount you need to spend to sustain your life with food, shelter and transportation. In America it varies but is relatively uniform. This minimum amount won't necessarily buy you comfort but you can get by. These are requirements for living and aren't negotiable. Saying the poor have it easy when they concern themselves much more with survival is a pathetically ignorant and evil thing to say. People should be entitled to earn what they're worth. If they can get rich, that's great. But let's not equate taxing money from someone who makes 1000x more than what it costs to survive to taxing someone at a lower rate who closer to the minimum cost to survive. That just sounds selfish, insensitive and inhuman.

[–]NerdSeed[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I look at the media. I see very wealthy people working in their own best interest to never speak of income inequality and to never ever clear up what progressive and marginal tax rates are.

[–]Apoplecticmiscreant 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's really time to start thinking about the beauty and simplicity of guillotines.

[–]Bigsouth620 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think @goangelo is going to have a bad day on Twitter today

[–]mkglass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Taxes need to be reformed (I am a Fair Tax advocate). So... I would love for the rich to feel burdened. Maybe then something will be done.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plutocrats like to complain about the progressive income tax but it doesn't even balance out more regressive taxation (like payroll which counts for the other half of federal revenues) let alone do anything to reduce wealth inequity.

[–]Unclehouse2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand how people can take Bill O'Reilly seriously or how he's even still on television. His views are so blatantly misinformed and biased and still people take him seriously.

[–]OrionRhodes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you shitting me?

[–]the6thReplicant 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are now living in those dystopian societies that all the movies and books I've consumed warned me about.

It seems like all the money, power and talent are out there to tell me the complete opposite of what I need to know to make informed political decisions.

Or. Duh!

[–]Apoplecticmiscreant 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please keep in mind that Mr. O'Really is worth an estimated $85 million as of last year.

[–]Post-NapoleonicMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope America can sleep at night...

[–]willbailes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's bad is the logic doesn't even work on its own merits. Well obviously if the poor are the ones who have it good, the solution would be to tax the rich more so they could live better lives.

[–]PepperJck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone have anything to say about his tax breakdown? 400k and over is 40% cmon you would have to be sending cash with no return envelope for the government to be taking 160k out of that flat.

[–]radical247centrist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stand back! I'm going to attempt sarcasm! - When are we finally going to simply accept the fact that rich folks are rich because they are simply better. They are a more noble species by virtue of their superior traits. A person becomes rich because they DESERVE to become rich. Poor people are poor because they deserve to be poor. Their inferior character traits simply prevent them from succeeding in more noble pursuits such as education or entrepreneurship. It is simply foolish to try to create an egalitarian society as that would throw off the entire balance of the universe and we wouldn't want that.

[–]funknjam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Highest rated news show on cable television. Go figure.

[–]phredd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you ever gotten a job from a poor person?

[–]NerdSeed[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The purchasing power of the average middle class strengthens jobs. There ate way more people in that bracket paying into stimulating the economy. A rich person may buy an expensive car or two or 8. Might buy expensive pillows and sheets. But he or she might only buy two. They may inky buy one or two yachts. Most wealthy individuals hide or save their money toward the stock market or hold on to it for long periods which does not stimulate the economy.

When the "middle class" is incapable of affording school or savings, childcare, occassionsl luxuary spending. That hurts everyone. Eventually that hurts the economy and small businesses. Purchasing power is 75% of he GDP. When that drops then it doesn't matter how many wealthy are out there. They are not all cresting jobs. Not if you actually pay attention to trends.

[–]workerbotsuperhero 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, totally - being poor is sweet! Most of the poor people I know just love not having enough money to buy food all month. What else could a Freedom-loving American working a full time job possibly want?

[–]SMOKEY_THE_BEA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Medium to small businesses to have quite a bit of taxes. Way more than the average American.

[–]KabIoski 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My first thought was that I can't wait for this to get blown up on the Daily Show.

But that will end before long. Who's going to make fun of Fox like they deserve to be mocked once Stewart is gone? Larry Wilmore?

[–]sarahfk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is an ass!