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[–]Killing_SinI5 4670K@4.2GHz, 780TI, 4x4GB DDR3 717ポイント718ポイント  (44子コメント)

So if you pre-order the game in that 24 hour period before release, can you play it?

I'm pretty sure they're just releasing it a day early.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 277ポイント278ポイント  (14子コメント)

lol, I don't know why I never considered this. Imagine if they stopped pre-orders the day before.

[–]forgot3n 167ポイント168ポイント  (11子コメント)

What if they're using this as a loophole to say on the steam page that it's still not released and therefore hide reviews for the first 24 hours because it's "not released" you can't review it.

[–]Fhaarkasi7 3770K@4.2GHz | 16GB | 750 Ti Masterrace Edition 165ポイント166ポイント  (4子コメント)

Then the reviews will be on Reddit.

"You can't hide from the internet." - Gaben, sort of.

[–]Tobrisi7 4970, GTX 970, 128GB/1TB, 16GB 44ポイント45ポイント  (3子コメント)

"But you can ignore them" - Alyx Vance, sort of

[–]Litarins 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Two people finding each other on stream in the first day - that has blown my mind" - Sean Murray. Can you grief other players? sort of.....

[–]RalphieboyCustom PC - GTX 970 / i7 Core 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

"And you can fuck em" - Sean Murray

[–]Pae_PCSteam ID Here 58ポイント59ポイント  (23子コメント)

I more curious about the refund system.

If we can cancel our pre-ordered any time before the game released. What if I play this game on Day 0 like 20 hours straight then issue a refund request just before the game release. Am I eligible for my refund?

[–]geoper 34ポイント35ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm willing to bet you could get away with it at first, with Valve catching on eventually. Or they could just see how much time you have played.

[–]killtrixi7-2600 @ 4.3Ghz, RX 480 8GB Red Devil @1385 Mhz, 16 GB RAM 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'd probably see how many hours you've already played and say hell no.

[–]AteSomeWiFiIntel 6350 | 256GB RAM | 1TB AMD 650GTX | 8GB HDD 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was my thoughts exactly.

[–]Rasmus3013i5-6600K | R9 390 8GB| 16GB DDR4 | Asus Z170-A 130ポイント131ポイント  (6子コメント)

If you pre-order during the 24 Hours before Release isn't it just like buying it on day one?

[–]tayhan9i5-6600K/ Gigabye Z170m/ GTX 970 G1/ G.Skill 16gb 100ポイント101ポイント  (3子コメント)

yea but i have an extra 24hrs to tell you i slept with your mom

[–]Stewie01 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

you know it has to release at some point

[–]IzznoSteam ID Here 887ポイント888ポイント  (36子コメント)

I'm preordering 7 copies to play a week early.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 358ポイント359ポイント  (27子コメント)

[–]Codleton 116ポイント117ポイント  (25子コメント)

[–]bilde2910Sapphire Radeon R9 270, Intel i3-4160 (3.6 GHz), 8 GB RAM, 2160p 117ポイント118ポイント  (22子コメント)

[–]AbsoluteCake 30ポイント31ポイント  (12子コメント)

I don't understand what's going on anymore

[–]Hexxman007 46ポイント47ポイント  (8子コメント)

explaining it wont make it funny, but they are combining the lyrcs with the famous Halloween dance song called The Monster Mash, By Bobby "Boris" Pickett, , and combining it with Math terms to make a pun.

[–]Moridni7-5820K, GTX 980, Corsair Air 540 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

It does not make it funny, it makes it heilarious.

Edit - sigh screw it, it gets left alone.

[–]MrMeltJr<= same as that 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess it didn't catch on in a flash for everybody, then.

[–]Julian256 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

First time I seen that upvoted is a long time

[–]Flotin4790k @ 4.8ghz, h100i, MSI 980ti, 16gb ram, ssd 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm already playing

[–]jroddie4i5 | GTX 2OLD | 4 RAMs 49ポイント50ポイント  (3子コメント)

isn't that just buying the game?

[–]javitogomezzzzPhenom II 1090T | Sapphire R9 280x Dual-X | 8GB Kingston DDR3 114ポイント115ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is so fucking retarded. The "day early" is the actual release date and the people is preordering to play it... On release day.

[–]SephithDarknesse 924ポイント925ポイント  (156子コメント)

The fact that a post needs to be made about every single game is pathetic.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 888ポイント889ポイント  (33子コメント)

Repetition works, David.

Repetition works, David.

[–]nymmLGTX 970 | i5 4460 3.20GHz 72ポイント73ポイント  (4子コメント)

Jimmy Two Times: I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.

[–]jackfrostbyteSteam ID Here 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is that anything like Jacob Two Two?

[–]DudebroMcCooli5-6600 @ 3.3Ghz / EVGA GTX 970 / 8GB DDR4 / Win7 Master Race 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Desmond Tutu?

[–]Drakarisi7 2600k@4,5GHz / XFX R9 290 DD / Samsung 850 Pro 256GB 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... what was that again?

[–]OverlordOfKittens 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe the word you were looking for is insanity.

[–]hamzta09i7 4790K 4,4 - 980 Ti Twin Frozr - 16GB Corsair 2400MHz - PG279Q 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doesnt really. Look at any EA title.

[–]DrImpossibl3Specs/Imgur here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any? What about SSX Tricky?

[–]SaltyMeth(and super creeps) 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

what works who?

[–]FreshGroceries 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

How else will they get easy sweet sweet karma?

[–]shikiroin 58ポイント59ポイント  (8子コメント)

It doesn't need to be made, people that want to pre-order will do so, this post is pointless and seeing them nearly every day is annoying.

[–]Geter_PabrielBetter than yours 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

Seriously I don't get why people think making a post that < .01% of the gaming population will see is effective. Easy karma is easy karma I guess.

[–]0verstim6700 TitanX Win10 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

You just described every single post

[–]LievanFX-8350/ GTX 970 SSC/ 8 gb of RAM 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. I'll continue to preorder the games that I want.

[–]Cubly_Cubly 66ポイント67ポイント  (82子コメント)

Pre-ordering is bad. Very bad. The more people we stop pre-ordering the more chance we have to start improving the game industry.

[–]UltimateDucksSpecs/Imgur here 46ポイント47ポイント  (71子コメント)

I don't really get why pre-ordering is bad, can someone explain it to me? I'm being serious, I don't really get what the impact is.

I can understand not pre-ordering months before the game comes out, but like the guy said above you could order it one day early, play it early, get all the incentives (which in this case, I don't own dishonored 1 on PC, so that would be cool to have) and you're not risking anything now that steam does refunds.

I get that pre-orders essentially tell developers that they don't have to make a good game if they hype it enough, but if you're only buying it one or two days before release what difference does it really make?

[–]bagehisFury X i7-6700K 75ポイント76ポイント  (38子コメント)

No Man's Sky.

There's a lot of games that look good, or are made by companies that have made good games in the past. Pre-ordering let's them take their money and run before real reviews are made available. Whether the game reviews are made available weeks in advance, but the multiplayer servers (even for single players games - looking at you Sim City) don't work and severely hinder the game play or the reviews are embargoed until after launch to keep the hype train going, pre-orders are being gamed by video game publishers.

[–]greenskye 36ポイント37ポイント  (6子コメント)

I still don't understand how so many people believed it would deliver on even half of its promises

[–]mysticrudnin 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's what I'm thinking.

Every game that I've pre-ordered has led to me being happy plus having all of the day one perks (usually CDs.)

Knowledge is knowing from whom and such that you can pre-order from safely. It's not "NEVER PRE-ORDER."

But then again, I don't pre-order PC games unless I get a physical copy (which is often the only way to get the physical copy). So I guess here, "never pre-order" is probably right.

[–]UltimateDucksSpecs/Imgur here 25ポイント26ポイント  (27子コメント)

I don't feel like No Man's Sky was a good example, it was massively refunded. On top of that it only got a little bad press in the time before release, and many many people who didn't pre-order bought it on day one. Whats the difference? should we be telling people "Don't buy games until they've been out for a week" so we know for sure that the devs aren't just screwing us out of money for an incomplete game?

[–]skajohnny 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

The no pre-orders thing is an easier way to say "Don't buy in to the hype." Whether you wait a day or a week, as long as you have some tangible information about how the game actually plays, instead of a bunch of what-ifs.

[–]UltimateDucksSpecs/Imgur here 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

This I can agree with. I honestly don't think a lot of people understand why pre-ordering is actually bad though, judging by the replies I'm getting.

[–]skajohnny 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That happens any time you simplify something to a soundbite. You reduce the message far enough, the room to interpret it becomes much larger.

[–]geoper 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

should we be telling people "Don't buy games until they've been out for a week"

If they have a press embargo on reviews, then yes, yes, yes. Otherwise read a review.

[–]space_reaper 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then people will complain about the press being paid shills for the game to fluff up the ratings.... oh, wait.

[–]TheSoundOfBlood 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, that's exactly what people should do: think about the situation before giving money to a corporation/company/developer.

People shouldn't be shelling out tens of monies just to experience something before others/during the immediate hype train arrival to the destination... unless, you know, that is the thing that provides the fun and experience they seek.

For some reason, people seem to think that a game is good only if you play it in during the release wave, when everyone is talking, blogging and vlogging, and releasing spoilers about it. I can kinda understand the fear of getting spoiled an ending of a story, and I can see why early days of a multiplayer title could be interesting, when everyone is still learning the ropes and population is high, but if the game doesn't provide fun in the long run as well, isn't it lacking in something?

[–]SaffellBot 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, that's what we tell them. Don't buy a game on release that hasn't issued pre-release review copies. The game industry lies their asses off in marketing and cannot be trusted.

[–]Moebiuzz 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've noticed that most games are a lot better in the first parts than towards the end. Wether they are MMOs like TOR, RTS like Starcraft or platformers like Mirror's Edge. Seems like more QA is put towards granting a good first impression.

Waiting for reviews of the entire game before buying it should in time guide companies to budget their development towards more than first impressions.

[–]UltimateDucksSpecs/Imgur here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Again, that could be a week after release that we get that info. Not that I don't agree, I just think that Month Advance Pre-orders are the big no-go. Buying a game a day before release is the exact same thing as buying it at release which people have been doing for years and no one shits on that.

Ideally, though, you're right. The best thing to do to really improve standards of the game industry would be to stop buying games at or before release altogether and show developers that hyping a game is not going to make them money, making a good game is.

Unfortunately it would be difficult to get everyone on board with that.

[–]mythriznVidia 3D Vision FTW 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Usually if a product (like a game) turns out to have a lot of issues or maybe even being completely different from what was promised, less people will end up buying it.

However, preordering means people have already paid for the product before even finding out about any issues it might have.

Add in review embargos, and companies are basically "tricking" people to pay for something which may not be as good as the ads are trying to convince you of.

While you could argue for the fact that usually any issues that occurs in games are not big enough to really be a dealbreaker, the problem that people is worried about is that the more people preorder, the less publishers will focus on QA and making good games. Instead they'll move more and more towards just relying on hype and marketing to sell games before people find out that it's a really shitty game.

[–]Herlock 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most people won't use the refund system (or know about it). Pre orders are here to force you into buying blindfolded while the game hasn't been reviewed, or reviews are still under embargo...

Those are anti consummers tactics

[–]DrAEnigmatic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It should be: Don't buy something of unknown quality. Ignore what the devs/publishers/marketers tell you.

If there are reviews out that you trust, sure, go ahead and preorder.
But it's not uncommon for review embargos (NDAs) to lift close to release.

Also: pre-order incentives are anti-consumer, since they want you to buy without being able to inspect the goods quality.

[–]UltravioletClearancei7 4790k | MSI R9 390 | 16GB RAM 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, fuck people on DSL who want to play the game when it comes out instead of the 4 days it'd take to download a 60GB game! /s

Pre-ordering digital games has very real benefits and I'm tired of this mindless hivemind being driven by asshats like Total Biscuit and dumb YouTubers saying anyone who preorders a game is stupid. Especially with Steam's refund system it's a win-win. There is NO downside to preordering a game on Steam.

[–]CommieStoner 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The anti-preorder circlejerk is strong.

People have to be told what to do with their own money because no adults are present here.

[–]FhwqhgadsSteam ID Here 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

The fact that people keep falling for pre-order hype is what's pathetic.

[–]geoper 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah but I'm pretty sure we are talking about two different groups of people.

[–]LievanFX-8350/ GTX 970 SSC/ 8 gb of RAM 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

All my preorders have been worth it so yeah.

[–]Th0rn0 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's almost as if people thing that EVERY PC gamer browses reddit...

[–]UncleverAccountNameSteam ID Here 117ポイント118ポイント  (51子コメント)

But you get Dishonored: Definitive Edition for free if you preorder.

[–]Scrubby_Mcdub1060/6500 70ポイント71ポイント  (4子コメント)

REMEMBER

GIVE ME KARMA

Seriously, this is as low-effort as it gets.

[–]Jealyi5 6600K / GTX 980Ti / 16GB DDR4 / PG278Q 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pre-order all you want, if it's shit just refund it.

[–]MD_Monsteri7 4770 | MSi GTX 970 | 8GB DDR3 | 256GB SSD 23ポイント24ポイント  (18子コメント)

The sad thing is for me, is NMS was actually the only Pre-Order I have EVER done. And will never do again.

[–]EggheadDashAMD FX-8350, AMD R9 290, 16GB RAM, Arch Linux/Windows 7 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

It could be worse. I pre-ordered The War Z, from the developer's website so I couldn't get the Steam refund. They banned my key before I even had a chance to download the game.

[–]maximusGG 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. The War Z is probably the only game that is even worse than NMS and Mafia 3 combined.

[–]deanylevi7 3770k @4.2GHz | EVGA GTX 970 SC | 16GB DDR3-2133 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here :/

Really proves to me why I've never done it.

[–]BuddhacrousSpecs/Imgur Here 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we get a "pre-order nonsense" tag so I can have these posts stay out of my feed

[–]CigarLover 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't normally care for Reddit telling me not to preorder games. But this incentive is pretty lame.

Normally I preorder for 30 percent discounts and/or gift cards.

[–]HyperactiveSeaLion 66ポイント67ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is the first time I'm considering it... I pay the exact same money... and I get the fancy steel case... for a game I'm going to buy day one anyway because I loved the first one so much? :(

[–]hiyougamiNode 202 http://imgur.com/a/LnnNq 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then in this case, it's your kind of deal :)

[–]NecrotizingFascitisi5-4690K | GeForce GTX 970 | GB GA-H81M-H | 8GB RAM | 2TB SSHD 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

I see, but I think these posts are made to remind people who buy the game, then complain because it's bad instead of waiting a day or two to see gameplay.

[–]Malpasaurus 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

These posts are made for easy karma, actually.

[–]Treyman1115 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How many people do that though, are they even the same people?

[–]yourewelcomestevei7-4790K|GTX 980 Ti|16GB DDR3 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I loved Shadow Warrior, i'm glad i didn't preorder SW 2, ulyou never know what can happen to a sequel.

[–]Niitrex 99ポイント100ポイント  (42子コメント)

I love all of you guys, but I preordered the collectors edition about 15 minutes after it was available. The original Dishonored is my favorite game ever. Forgive me?

[–]wickeddimensionVideo Editor | 5820K / GTX 680 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't the Collectors edition a finite item though? Because then it makes sense, thats the OG reason to pre-order, to make sure you get a copy at launch day. It's mostly digital pre-orders that are only there to pull people in before they know about the game.

[–]RyanTheQFX-8350 | R9 270X 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do what you want and don't ask for forgiveness from strangers on friggin' reddit.

[–]PM_GERMAN_SHEPHERDSi5 6600K | GTX 1080 32ポイント33ポイント  (19子コメント)

It's Dishonored, so I'm sure that nothing will go awfully wrong despite the state of many AAA games nowadays. It's just that the practice of pre-ordering and receiving advantages for doing so is infuriating because it reinforces the sense of pre-order culture which is much hated here and in general (i.e., Deus Ex: Mankind Divided with its pre order BS and 'rewards' dependent on how many people pre-order).

[–]birdsatI7 6700K / Gainward GTX 1080 GLH 28ポイント29ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's Dishonored, so I'm sure that nothing will go awfully wrong despite the state of many AAA games nowadays.

That is the reason you get butt fucked every time you preorder. After the launches of Sim City, Diablo 3, Battlefield 4, Mafia 3, No Mans Sky, The Crew etc... i have no hopes for a dev to deliver anymore.

[–]Jujubirdy 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I remember when call of duty was a good game, or assassins creed, or splinter cell...

[–]freedomnaSpecs/Imgur Here 119ポイント120ポイント  (24子コメント)

My prediction on the sub's consensus:

"Dishonoured 2 comes from a great company, we should trust them. Ignore NMS pre orders are great. Muh Steam Refunds."

After release.

"Never going to pre order again. Pre orders are aweful. We need to stick it to the publishers."

Next game is hyped.

"Next Game comes from a great company, we should trust them. Ignore Dishonoured 2 pre orders are great. Muh Steam Refunds."


"Pre-orders. Pre-orders never changes." -Ron Perlman

[–]Cow_God 68ポイント69ポイント  (12子コメント)

NMS didn't come from a good company.

Dishonored was nominated as game of the year.

[–]___Hobbes___ 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

Arkham Knight was released by Rocksteady. I don't see anyone saying NMS was from a company with a good track record.

[–]Cow_God 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Arkham Knight was ported to PC by a company other than rocksteady, wasn't it? WB subbed it out to accelerate the release if I remember correctly

[–]Sys_init 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

Difference is nobody should have trusted Hello Games

[–]MerigouldAlienware! 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was exactly what happened before Arkham Knight was released.

"Oh I trust Rocksteady, they've never let me down before. My preorder is safe"

People are stupid with their money and always will be.

[–]COZIO_2 68ポイント69ポイント  (18子コメント)

I pre-ordered the collectors edition, becuase I can finally have that mask!

[–]indyK1ngi7-3770, 32GB RAM, GTX 970 46ポイント47ポイント  (12子コメント)

Do you have a friend with a 3D printer? If so you can ask them to print the mask for you (two different links) and you won't have to pay into a system which harms consumers.

EDIT: Four downvotes in under 5 minutes for suggesting a cheaper alternative? Fuck me, right?

EDIT 2: Looks like it has bounced back. I have never seen vote activity so high so early in the morning.

[–]darcloi5 4670k GTX960 4GB 8GB RAM 2x120GB SSD + 640 GB HDD 42ポイント43ポイント  (3子コメント)

For suggesting stealing intellectual property because it's cheaper.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, way to bring it with the links, A+

[–]HyenaofTheWest 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Isn't 3d printed stuff like super fragile.

[–]jmandab0143 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends on what material you print and the structure on the inside.

[–]OneMansGloryhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/OneMansGlory 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Owner of a 3d printer here, I can deny that. It really depends on what you print, and how you print it. I can imagine the mask being a bit brittle (It's really thin) but if I print, say a pokeball, it's not gonna break any time soon.

[–]cooldeadpunk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also just pre-ordered it through amazon because of the $20 discount it gave. Ended up costing me like $10 extra for all the sweet stuff.

[–]MoogleMan34790K, GTX 980 Ti, 32GB Ram, 512 GB 850 Pro, x2 4TB WD Red Pro 52ポイント53ポイント  (26子コメント)

Better advice is preorder selectively. I'd never preorder an ubisoft or warner bros game. I have final fantasy xv proerdered; all the preview videos floating around give very positive impressions. I'd preorder a new 3d mario, uncharted, last of us, god of war, dust, ori, and a bunch of others in a nanosecond.

[–]Masterchiefg7i5-4690K 3.5 GHz | GeForce GTX 980Ti 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This 100%. I would never preorder an Ubisoft game, a Gearbox Game, a Warner Bros. Game (unless review copies were actually sent out and were reviewed well, i.e. Mad Max). But I'll still pre-order Blizzard games (even after the Diablo III fiasco they have my support), I'll pre-order Naughty Dog games and FROM Software games whenever I have the chance.

My rule is that whenever a producer or developer proves that they are not to be trusted, either when I preorder a game by them that is terrible or they bomb a release so bad that it's common knowledge that they screwed up (No Man's Sky), I don't preorder from that company. I preorder from the companies I have personal experience with and I want to support up front.

[–]OaSoaDHail GabeN 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is starting to get annoying

[–]motoo344i5 4690k/G1 Gaming 979 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wonder how pre-prders are doing in general compared to ten years or so ago. I work at a small retro game shop and I don't even buy new games and we don't sell or push a lot of pre orders. People ask and then we will sell them one. Next month will be 8 months at the shop and the new Pokemon game will be the first new game I have bought.

[–]jaijasty2i7-4720HQ|GTX 980M|32GB RAM|256GB+1TB SSD|1TB HDD 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

And here I am, never having bought a game on release date or full priced. And nearing 300 games, I don't have bad rats either.

Man, I'm missing out.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In a similar boat. Have close to 400 these days, huge backlog to play through while I wait.

[–]NickeKass 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Although I pre-ordered Dishonored 1, I have since been beaten down and stopped giving into preorders due to all the crap like No Mans Sky.

Ive had enough of pre-orders that I didn't even pre-order Pokemon Sun/Moon even though Im 99.999999% certain nintendo won't screw it up.

[–]Cory123125I5 6500,16gb ram,1070 FTW http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2twXvV 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can refund. Stop spamming the frontpage with this shit.

[–]penatbateri5-6500 | 8gig DDR4 | Seasonic 520W | Samsung 850 33ポイント34ポイント  (20子コメント)

You know, this might actually be worth it. For a pre-order, you get the entire and complete dishonored 1 with all the dlc (i think? correct me if i'm wrong). It's a great strategy. While waiting for Dishonored 2, relive the game with Dishonored 1. I might actually pre-order just so I can have Dishonored 1, even if i won't play Dishonored 2 for a while (a bit of a backlog).

[–]rinnagz 20ポイント21ポイント  (19子コメント)

i dont really think so, most people that would pre-order Dishonored 2 already have the first game.

[–]CreamSteve 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I bought the first one, liked it after playing it for an hour, and then noticed I could get it for free when pre-ordering Dishonored 2 and Steam let me return the first one to get the deal. I know everyone is against the pre-ordering here, but I'm feeling good about it.

[–]penatbateri5-6500 | 8gig DDR4 | Seasonic 520W | Samsung 850 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

I mean, it's good for those without, or those who no longer have it/the DLCs etc.

[–]shikiroin 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

OR think for yourself and do what you want, these posts are pointless.

[–]wakingdemonsFX8350/GTX980/16GB 200ポイント201ポイント  (130子コメント)

Or people can spend their money on what they want with a refund cushion under them if they don't like it

but hey that's my opinion

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 202ポイント203ポイント  (90子コメント)

It's not about whether or not you can get your money back... it's incentivizing game companies to make good games, rather than getting paid up front for something that hasn't even been reviewed yet. If we want to stop developers releasing buggy shitshows, we need to stop paying them before the game is done.

[–]TidusJames2600k @4.6 - SLI 980Ti Hybrid - 5760x1080 34ポイント35ポイント  (12子コメント)

before the game is done.

Assuming the game is done at release...

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 53ポイント54ポイント  (0子コメント)

EXACTLY.

[–]AkariAkazaI5 4690k @ 4.3 Ghz, EVGA SC GTX 1080 16GB RAM 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Arkane is one of the few companies i trust with this, dishonoured worked fantastically at launch as did all three DLC's for it

[–]SugiohSugioh 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing that Dishonored lacked at launch was support for higher FoVs. They patched them in remarkably quickly, though.

One of the best optimized Unreal 3 games and just a joy from start to finish. I agree, they've earned a preorder from me.

[–]HyenaofTheWest 6ポイント7ポイント  (11子コメント)

So it's ok I preordered titanfall 2 when the reviews came out yesterday?

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

Hey man, you trust the reviewer, go shithouse. Absolutely.

[–]HyenaofTheWest 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

I mostly went by tf1 players opinions playing the in house build. Also the massive amounts of footage. But the reviews sealed it, review embargos after the games release are always super sketchy

[–]FlickkedX1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks at all the people still hyping up DayZ

Good luck with that.

[–]BullsLawDan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or people can spend their money on what they want with a refund cushion under them if they don't like it

For 2 hours of gameplay.

The question you need to answer is why preorder.

In every instance - every one - the cons of preordering outweigh the pros.

[–]river710:^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^) 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I respect your opinion.

But it's wrong and I hate you.

[–]st0neh4690K@4.5Ghz, 16Gb @ 2133MHz, R9 390 24ポイント25ポイント  (25子コメント)

No, damnit.

Everything is black and white and you must follow the circle jerk or face exile.

/s

[–]lairosen 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

$79.95 USD in Australia. Damn greedy bastards :(

[–]mxzealhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/mxzeal 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wtf is the point of pre ordering I don't understand?!?!

[–]littlebritches420 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would anyone even pre-order on steam? Its not like they will run out of copies. Lol

[–]univarseman 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why the hate for pre-orders? Before the downvote brigade occurs i just want to know is it because you want other people to buy it and review out so you know whether or not it's a solid game before you get it?

It seems to me that a game you plan on getting the day it comes out shouldn't make a difference of you pre-order it or not.

Also I'm not dissing the pre-order hate, i just don't know why it's there and would like some clarification please

[–]dontbelikeyou 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel pre-odering is a "dont touch the hot stove" situation. Everyone has been told plenty of times don't do it it'll hurt. Some people just won't listen until they've been burnt. All that's left to do is say "what the fuck did you think was going to happen" when they complain afterwards.

[–]MikeOHaraGeForce GTX 1070/16gb RAM/FX-8350 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll look at it, but wait until reviews or a port report are done before I buy.

[–]kloiikFX-6300 4.7,MSI 960 100ME, 12 GB's, 2x 1TB and 1x 128 ssd. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As much as i love Dishonored, i won't pre-order it. I have no doubts it will be a good game though.

[–]StrategicBlenderBall 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I only preorder if there's a demo/beta and it runs well. Or it's Metal Gear.

[–]woskful 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why don't you guys wait until a game has gameplay released for it, judge it then if it's worth buying. If it is then buy it and stay away from everything else if not then don't buy it.

[–]Solid_Koolaid4670K, R295X, 16GB DDR3, 1TB SSD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll never understand that hysterical groupie appeal of having to be the very f1rst exclusive little snowflake to play it before everyone else (well... except the millions of people who did the same as you, you know). Last time I bought a game at the time of release was Half Life 2. All the rest I've waited at least until the first Steam sale to get a good deal (+ bug fixes, DLCs, reviews, etc. by then). I find the pre-order fad braindead pathetic.

[–]MilkeyWilkey 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No mans sky...never again.

[–]undersight 31ポイント32ポイント  (26子コメント)

Nah, I'll pre-order the game and the "anti-pre-order" circlejerk can fuck off. I'll support the companies and franchises I like.

[–]Dr_Trevisi7 4790 / GTX 1080 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't understand the point of digital pre-orders. Pre-orders make sense in the case of physical copies of the game, especially when supply is limited. Digital... not so much. There is essentially limitless supply.

[–]noso2143 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

to late already pre-ordered back when we first could

[–]oliseoi7 4970k | GTX 1070 | 12TB Nas 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I often wonder if this campaign was started by the gaming industry knowing full well it's human nature to want to do something MORE when someone tells you NOT TO DO it.

[–]Breadman86 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pre-ordered Dishonored 1 the day before it came out. Was not disappointed. Pre-ordered Fallout 4, was not disappointed. Pre-ordered Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, was not disappointed. Pre-ordered Skyrim, was not disappointed.

Only game I've ever screwed up pre-ordering was Batman: Arkham Knight on PC, and technically I only got it because it came as a pre-order with my graphics card, and it works great now anyways.

Be smart about what you buy. Don't pre-order everything that looks nice and fancy. Know what you like and find companies/devs you trust. Pre-order if you want, or wait if you want. Whatever.

Having said all of that... not pre-ordering this cause I know I won't have any dang time to play it in the next few months anyways, so the benefits of pre-ordering aren't even worth it for me.

[–]Wolve909GTX 970, i5 2.8Ghz This shit is throttling my GPU 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO, Pre order from the companies you fully trust not shady triple A companies or small indies.

My last pre-order was the origin edition of Overwatch and completely satisfied with the game at launch, i haven't been disappointed with the game thus far.

[–]superbrian111i5-6500 | GTX 1060 | 8 GB DDR4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

it'll take a day to install anyway.

[–]XXIV_7#mustardrace 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I think about pre-orders, first think comes to mind is; why they are giving bonuses to you if it's no different from regularly buying as some people claim. They give you bonuses because you are jumping in blind, without knowledge of the game or without reviews. So you just give them money on their promise of a good game.

[–]BurgrMeistrSpecs/Imgur here 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only reason I see for pre-ordering is for collecting special editions and swag, maybe a special deal if the devs are legit. Silly things like getting a to play a little bit earlier or getting extra in-game items and the like are usually not enough of a boost to really effect game play, and if they do, it shouldn't.

[–]illage2PC Master Race 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why not release the game a day early for everyone.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, in essence, that's what they're doing. Unless they stop pre-orders the day they release it for those who pre-ordered. Which sounds dumber than just letting people have it a day early.

[–]Sc0rch3d_P0tat03s 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's different though. Dishonoured 2 will be amazing.

[–]illage2PC Master Race 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I pre-ordered BF1 on Amazon for PS4 it arrived a day late.

[–]multiple_iterations"Ghostwheel" | FX-9590 | R9 380 | 16g RAM | Win 10 Pro[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's... infuriating. I'd be super annoyed at that.

[–]CEO_of_GamerGate 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless you're a streamer... in which case you have no choice but to do this. Especially since the biggest streamers are going to have it days before even the pre-orders.

[–]11kgm 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty sure I brought it when it was announced watch me get burned like thief 4

[–]swifterdrifter7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I loved the first dishonored. And I trust arkane studios. I know it'll be worth it. I can understand why you shouldn't pre-order this. But again, I trust arkane studios and I know they wouldn't do a cash grab.

[–]chamon-i5 6500 / XFX RX 480 / 16GB DDR4 / S340 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

David

[–]marinex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the advice

[–]MechanicalmindMechanicalmind 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will be released the same day skyrim was, 5 years later.

Coincidentally, it will also be my cakeday.

[–]VaultTecAnimationsgay 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Time to start savin up money for this game..

I have too much faith in Bethesda. lmao

[–]4iDragonFX6300/DeezNuts/970 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not even a Online game. SO you won't have to compete with early gamers.

[–]NonFrizzante 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is especially important after the disaster that SW2 turned out to be.

A good previous game is no indication that the good work will carry on into the sequel.

[–]henryuuk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

as soon as pre-ordering (admittingly in my IRL store, not steam) no longer gives me benefits (even outside of the stuff the company "locks" behind it) and as soon as I get even a single bad experience from preordering something, I might finally take this stupid circlejerk serieus

[–]neverluckysalt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, after no mans sky I thought nothing was going to change and people would just keep on pre-ordering as if nothing ever happened just like with every other pre-order fail, but I'm actually seeing a more lasting impression this time, did people finally learn their lesson?

[–]InkOnTubeInk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

OMG one day earlier!!!

Seriously, I love Bethesda and I did Enjoyed Dishonored 1, but this prordering is ridiculous.

[–]Kahiro 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah no shit, but people somehow suck at following simple rules so they will still pre-order, get dissapointed and complain later about "NO PREORDERS"

[–]HeroDanny5820k i7 CPU. 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1000W PSU. (980ti coming soon) 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have to give them credit for releasing the game on a Friday though.

[–]iconic2125i5-4690k 4.7 GHz GTX980 Ti 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I should probably finish the first game.

[–]blumhagenSpecs/Imgur here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I preordered Farm Sim 17. Best purchase I've made all year.

[–]homelessscootaloo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pre-ordering a PC game is retarded, dont do it, they won't run out of copies.

[–]HexLHF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm really getting annoyed with this play early trend bullshit.

[–]Lopsdlopsdota 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If u wanna be called redditor dont preorder

[–]-ShieldToad- 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is their new shtick. Pre order for "early access." Goddamnit.

[–]byecyclehelmetR9 390, 16GB DDR3 4690K... 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope the games on my wishlist will have great discounts during the sale!

[–]Amanat361FX-8350 / GTX 1070 / 16 GB RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I told this to a friend and he said what's wrong with preordering and I really couldn't say much. Can someone remind me?

[–]CowTusksSpecs/Imgur here 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Incase they're buggy messes that dong work or just awful games that didn't even try to meet expectations

[–]GeneralAtrox 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does anybody actually pre-order for this extortionate price?

[–]RichardSaturday 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But, THE SKINS!!!!

[–]Frumpy78GTX 1080/ I7 4770k/ 32GB 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only reason I am preordering is because of the price discount from Amazon Prime.

[–]reallymiish 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've only preordered a game once. It was Halo 4 and I only preordered it because Best Buy had a really sweet armor set with the preorder. Do I regret it? No, I was going to get the game anyways. But I will never preorder out of pure hype. Never.

[–]StarHorderPlease help 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember, no rushing.

[–]Riash 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I learned my lesson years ago. I pre-purchased Mass Effect 3 through Origin. If I had to do it all over again I'd have waited for a sale, and the extended cut DLC.

[–]Gwuc 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take 10 minutes to read a god damn review before you buy a god damn game.