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Mr. Shitty Kickstarter (self.shittykickstarters)

outbackdude が 投稿

Rich Tucker

currently pimping:

  1. the obviously fake bio-ring with $600,000 so far

  2. clothes you can wear for a week without washing - because sweat has no smell apparently... $314,255

  3. Clairy - A toxic air-cleaning pot plant. Tested for a few minutes and amazingly blowing toxic air through soil is more effective than blowing toxins through nothing at all. Also possibly a knock-off of "Airy". Has some magic air pollution detector app that isn't described at all. $281,465

  4. a clone of a generic 1950's razor for $100. $458,252

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[–]thelaptopliquidator 51ポイント52ポイント  (7子コメント)

Until we start prosecuting these people, there's no reason for them to stop.

I prefer to live off the sweat of my brow than what I can fleece from others, but 1.4$ million to write a couple of paragraphs? Of course people will be doing this left and right.

And with so few cases brought to trial, what is there to dissuade them?

[–]meta_perspective 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have there been any cases brought to trial? Asking honestly, I'm not aware of any.

[–]Swanee3d 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Washington state fined someone $54,841 and then a federal case with the FTC levying a $112,000 fine that ended up suspended because the guy was broke.

[–]pr0x3 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. You donate the money and hope it works out.

[–]OlemmeAnonyymi 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's wrong on both counts. There have been lawsuits and crowdfunding is not a donation.

[–]wolfman1911 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I guess it's kinda like those people that go to the shopping center and panhandle for several hours, and then drive home in a BMW to their nice house.

[–]thelaptopliquidator 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

... the amount of times I've seen clean shaven people with clothes with no holes or stains and 'Homeless Anything helps' signs...

Like I get that you're too lazy to work, but are you really too lazy to grow a beard and spill some motor oil/poke some holes in your clothes?

At least they're not as bad as the ones pretending to be vets

[–]StinkinBadges 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This right here. As a Vet it takes me about 5 seconds to know they're full of shit. Disgusts me.

[–]Illustrox1 22ポイント23ポイント  (8子コメント)

  1. IndIegogo
  2. Indiegogo
  3. Indiegogo
  4. Umhhh, oh yeah, indiegogo..

[–]skizmo 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

ofcourse...indiegogo is a scam

[–]wolfman1911 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Like I always say, Indiegogo is the kickstarter for projects too shady to make it on kickstarter. There's a reason that they give you the option to take the money whether you succeed or fail.

[–]Who_GNU 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

... and they don't require a working prototype for hardware projects, or any evidence that they are physically possible.

[–]wolfman1911 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh that's a good point, I hadn't even thought of that.

[–]jbaughb 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

This really is the best way to describe Indygogo. You can usually be assured that a Kickstarter project is legit. If it fails, it will be because of the incompetence of its creator...not because it was always intended to be a fraud.

There are some Indygogo projects that could only be fraud.

I've had good luck so far. I've backed like 15 or so products and got every single one. A couple were a couple years late but they eventually came. One was a true disappointment but it was only a $30 multitool for my bike so I really didn't care. It was also a couple years late. All in all thought, I've never felt defrauded by crowdfunding.

[–]tylercoder 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can usually be assured that a Kickstarter project is legit. If it fails, it will be because of the incompetence of its creator...not because it was always intended to be a fraud.

Haha nah there have been plenty of obviously fraudulent kickstarters as well

[–]StinkinBadges 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aren't there a gajillion multi-tools for bikes? I know Park makes several.

[–]jbaughb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, and i have one made by Park. I just liked the specific design. It was small, lightweight, had an interesting attachment method, and it was relatively inexpensive so I took a chance. The guy who made it ended up getting screwed by manufacturers it sounded like. He never specifically said that, but the updates he was posting made it sound like they were walking all over him and he couldn't do anything about it. I felt kinda bad for him...especially when people started complaining everyday...but thats what happens when inexperienced people get into manufacturing. I was already along for the ride and, as I said, it was only $30 so I wasnt concerned about losing the money. He got test cuts from the factory that were considerably different from the one-off that I am assuming he got cut a a lot shop with a plasma CNC.

It all worked out in the end. He paid for a second run out of pocket after everyone complained about the shitty version he first got from the factory. I dont know what he did with all the shitty ones. Probably threw them away. They were considerably more bulky than what was promised. With the time it took, and probably money too, he could have made all of them by hand..or maybe using that plasma machine. I think he went to a casting method to save time and money but with all the screw ups it took over 2 years.

[–]TheAnimus 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

But when you search for that image....

https://www.generosity.com/memorial-fundraising/tucker-s-girls-memorial-fund--2

[–]outbackdude[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

yeah I did that too. It's a photo of his dead brother and family. He did a crowd fundraiser and got those girls $20,000 for college. Or so it says on the internet. Also... some people put way too much stuff on the internet.

/edit - forgot that link you posted has all that info there.

[–]TheAnimus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bit odd that he is using it as his profile photo.

[–]outbackdude[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah. little circle profile pic seems accurate tho.

[–]Alimentas 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the actual fuck dude. It's also his profile pic... That guy is sick in the head.

[–]magicalmilk 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe it's money laundering???

[–]danwin 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

The Rockwell Razor is made by someone (Gareth Everard) who is at least putting real effort into it. He's posted here before but mostly on r/kickstarters and r/Entrepreneur about how badly he failed the first time and how he managed to turn things around and deliver razors to satisfied backers. The current campaign is the second iteration of it. I don't know/care enough about razors to spend that much money on it, but AFAIK, he's been honest with current and past backers and the fact that he's managed to reap even more money this time is some proof that his backers were happy and have faith in him.

[–]Swanee3d 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He wrote a good article that I think was posted here at one point.

[–]crusoe -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Those razors are from India. He is not making them.

[–]NeuReleases 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Normally I don't comment on things like this, but straight up lying trying to damage someone is not right. The razors are being made in N.A. designed by him, if you go look at the kickstarter page you can see the tooling being processed to make the razors with. They aren't just hawking some pre-made product.

[–]crusoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

$140k won't buy the machines needed. Unless he has outside investors. And it seems de blades labeled made in the USA are usually crap. most of that knowledge and machines were shipped to China. Germans still make good blades. Maybe he somehow found a good engineer who worked on the machines and got some machines out of retirement but digging around there is no us maker of good quality safety razor blades.

I guess he could be having the pieces made under contract by machine shops but that complicates quality control.

The Germans still make safety razors and good blades.

[–]brewdude666 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Source, please.

[–]notapantsday -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That razor still doesn't do anything that other razors don't. For example, the Merkur Futur is also adjustable, costs less and in my opinion it looks way better.

[–]939319 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Futur is just chrome plated zinc alloy. The Rockwell is stainless steel through and through. Stainless costs more and lasts much longer. Rockwell is currently running a much cheaper, plated razor too.

[–]Hal_Nein_Thousand 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

  • Materials

    • Chromed brass externals provide a timelessly appealing look.
    • Coated brass internal components ensure extreme durability.

It's not stainless.

[–]alpain 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

so from what im seeing it doesnt appear that hes actually the guy who created these kickstarters and doesnt own them in any way, he appears to be some sorta marketing guy that is subcontracted in...

from his bio

Rich's specialty is using social media to drive sales, he is a well-rounded digital marketer who gets geeked out about SEO, Website Optimization, Email Marketing, Mobile, etc.

hes just some SEO idiot whos company he works at does this

http://www.commandpartners.com/startup-services/indiegogo-marketing

http://www.commandpartners.com/startup-services/startup-marketing

[–]johnyma22 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Holy shit, that bioring totally infringes on my patents! Beatch :P

[–]tylercoder 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good, now he can say all the money went to pay royalties to you and cancel the project!

[–]metarinka 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

wtf he has some serious marketing chops to pull in those types of numbers. That's like the top 1% of campaigns by size, let alone to repeat it.

[–]tylercoder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who knows maybe he used to run spam scams so he got experience duping idiots

[–]splenetic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's interesting. The BioRing was a Herscu & Goldsilver effort and they're certainly no strangesr to the over-promised Indiegogo campaign. How nebulous must your product be for even H&G to stop representing you?

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