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What are some things that seem like a ripoff, but are actually really worthwhile? (self.Frugal)

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[–]RomeoStevens -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

Meal replacements like soylent and mealsquares. Sure, you could take the time and effort to source cheaper, tastier, balanced diets, but freeing up some of that energy can actually be a great trade off in many situations. I didn't realize how stressed food was making me until I made it optional.

[–]torstartupguy 72 ポイント73 ポイント

A more rational response to being stressed by food is to learn how to cook.

[–]Meh-_- 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Knowing how to cook doesn't have any affect on the stress of having to piece together an entire (healthy) meal, and then having to actually make it.

edit: Let me further clarify my point with the fact of the eternal debate of "So what are we going to eat tonight?" That question can literally take hours to answer, and then cooking time is added on top of that once something is actually decided.

[–]MuhMilkshake 15 ポイント16 ポイント

If you are literally spending hours worrying about what you are going to eat for dinner and aren't starving to death, you should reconsider somethings

[–]Meh-_- -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Living in a household of people with polar opposite diets makes deciding dinner incredibly difficult.

[–]drketchup 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Make your own food then. It shouldn't take hours to decide, that's insane.

[–]dreams_of_ants 3 ポイント4 ポイント

If you live in a household of babies then every baby just write down EVERYTHING they can eat. Then the master baby just needs to compile a list of foodstuffs that the group all can eat. This will ensure that every baby in the household is happy.

This shouldnt take longer than 3 hours, it will literally save you time after 1 night of deciding what food to make.

Or you know, everyone could stop being such whiny lil babies and just widen their scope of what they can eat. Fucking picky eaters, just learn to enjoy the food, its not that hard.

[–]MuhMilkshake 1 ポイント2 ポイント

So buy your own food and have everyone eat whatever they want. If you're going to a restaurant, you don't all decide to order the same thing.

[–]centropyge 2 ポイント3 ポイント

And somehow all of those people will decide drinking Soylent is a good idea?

Soylent just becomes another meal option when deciding, a non appealing one at that.

[–]dreams_of_ants 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Isn't Soylent horribly expensive?

[–]Arthur_Dayne 0 ポイント1 ポイント

And they're all satisfied by Soylent?

[–]type40tardis 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I'm (sort of) sorry, but do you have some kind of mental disorder?

[–]through_a_ways 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Sure, you could take the time and effort to source cheaper, tastier, balanced diets

I can, and I do.

[–]CactusRape 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Looks like you struck a chord.

[–]alexispres 4 ポイント5 ポイント

I really don't think this many people actually think soylent is a good idea. I would be willing to bet soylent employees are posting here.

[–]haskellnoob 12 ポイント13 ポイント

You'd be surprised how many people basically eat nothing but fast food because cooking and cleaning up is too much work for them. Soylent type things are an easy solution and way better than their current fast food plan. The reality of course is that "potatoes, carrot, broccoli, cheese" covers you and can be trivially prepared and stores well as leftovers, and is way cheaper than soylent.

[–]dirtytoes 0 ポイント1 ポイント

This thread is making me hungry...

[–]type40tardis 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Don't play the shill gambit. There are plenty of reasons that this is fucking stupid without accusing people of shilling--let's stick to those.

[–]alexispres -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Reddit is a pretty common target for astroturfing. It's also probably one of the only places they'll be able to get customers. It wouldn't be that big of a stretch for them to post here.

[–]UlyssesSKrunk 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Why?

[–]singlemalt_ninja 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Its people!!

[–]dirtytoes 1 ポイント2 ポイント

  • not all humans have the same nutritional needs

  • it's not proven that soylent actually works as a meal replacement in the long term

  • you'd get sick of eating it pretty quickly

  • eating can be fun, the idea of having some kind of nutrient paste and using it instead of food is kind of depressing

[–]disneyfacts -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Isn't Soylent people anyway? (Why did they think that was a good name?)

[–]curiouscuriousmtl 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Yeah I want to trust my nutrition to a bunch of bros when there are already such things as meal replacements on the market.

[–]Mudlily 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I can't believe they named it Soylent.

[–]tapr00t 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Why?

Its obscure enough of a reference that most people won't be disgusted when they hear it for the first time, and its funny enough for the people who get it right off the bat to remember it and become a fan just for the namesake.

[–]Mudlily 0 ポイント1 ポイント

"Soylent Green is People!"

[–]joeprunz420 0 ポイント1 ポイント

But soylent is made of people...

[–]ryanbuck 0 ポイント1 ポイント

This is very strange foreign logic to me, but I cannot ignore how much sense it makes. That being said, a little planning seems to be what you are missing, it's not hard to plan out your meals in advance and stick to the plan.

[–]MonsieurJongleur 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Apparently this is just as weird as my husband makes it out to be. I refer to meals as "problems" as in "I will require sustenance. What's the cheapest, lowest effort way to serve that need without eating something totally awful?" He's appalled that something as "beautiful and wholesome" as deciding, making, and eating food is considered a chore by me... and apparently so does most of r/frugal.

[–]UlyssesSKrunk 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Not even cheaper really. Sure if you go with the official soylent it's pretty expensive compared to cooking, but I've been doing the diy soylents, and I've gotten to under $3/day. By far the cheapest and healthiest way to eat that I can think of.

[–]BetterButterflies[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Ya 2 or 3 bucks for a meal replacement beats going out and spending 5-7 on shitty fast food, or 10-20 on actual lunch. It's faster and healthier! Good one!

[–]JustARogue 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Meal replacement shakes aren't that cheap. Soylent and the such are at least $10-$15/day.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gbp-0Y8hhFC12F4Dmad96Ksx-2wNU1_QA6kYRhX-WVM/edit#gid=0

[–]batdadsmistress -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

I have such a hard time convincing people of this but it's so true. Not only do I have more time to do other things, it's so much less stress worrying about things.

[–]JustARogue 18 ポイント19 ポイント

Is it really that stressful to:

  1. have a glass of milk for breakfast
  2. make a turkey sandwich for lunch
  3. broil a flank steak and throw some rice in a rice cooker for dinner

Hell, you could make and package all of these things on Sunday, not be stressed all week, and have tasty food. If you aren't doing anything fancy, you could knock out a weeks worth meals in like 2 hours.

It'll be a hell of a lot cheaper than the $15/day Soylent costs (for 2500cals) and you don't have to wash a blender 1-3 times a day.

[–]lottrbist 15 ポイント16 ポイント

Imagine the PTSD if the blender breaks.

Dammit, I've triggered myself, I need to lie down now.

[–]UlyssesSKrunk -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

What? You don't need a blender to make soylent, just something that can hold liquid.

[–]ios_k 14 ポイント15 ポイント

Is it really that stressful to:

  1. have a glass of milk for breakfast
  2. make a turkey sandwich for lunch
  3. broil a flank steak and throw some rice in a rice cooker for dinner

Please check your being a fully functioning adult privilege. Literally everything on this list gives me PTSD just by reading it, wtf is wrong with you?

[–]JustARogue 2 ポイント3 ポイント

MFW...

[–]haskellnoob -1 ポイント0 ポイント

What you listed isn't even remotely close to a nutritionally complete diet. You've got barely any of over half your vitamins and minerals in that shitty diet.

[–]JustARogue -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Ok add a multi. ON Opti-Men is available for less than a dollar a day on Amazon.

[–]haskellnoob -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

And then when you end up in the hospital with a deficiency anyways because supplements are virtually unregulated and routinely test as having little to none of the vitamins the packaging claims? This was a big reason people were initially bitching about soylent until he pointed out that it had to be tested and labelled as a food product, remember?

[–]dreams_of_ants 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Make a sallad

300g salladstuff

200g Chicken

300g eggs (about 5-6 eggs)

drink 2 glasses of milk over the day, 5dl milk, 1.5% fat

Add some salt to the chicken and eggs

Thats it, you now met all your nutritional needs.

So how long will this incredibly difficult thing take you to make?

Boil water with eggs, 15min.

Take a giant knife, chop the chicken up like a crazy person, throw in pan and fry, do this whilst boiling eggs. Add spices (+5min)

Rince off the knife and the cutting board (+1min)

Chop up sallad (+10min if you use the wrong end of the knife)

Peel the eggs (+15min for a thumbless person)

Throw everything in a large bown and mix (have your toddler do this, +15min).

So thats 61min to make a at the very least 3 batches of sallad. Thats 20min prep time per day. If you can use a knife, arent a toddler and have thumbs you will do it faster, but this is the internet so I wouldnt know :D

Oh, you want to know macros?

Energi : 956 Kcal Protein: 102 Fat: 44 Carbs: 34 Kostfiber: 5

Wait so how much will this cost me?

Way less than soylent.

[–]messiahwannabe -1 ポイント0 ポイント

dude, is it really that stressful to just keep an open mind? this is the thread for things that seem like a ripoff, but actually aren't.

have you ever tried soylent? maybe it's not for you, but at least one person thinks it's worthwhile to pay $15/day (less than the cost of 3 fast food meals and more healthy) for the ease, convenience, and nutritional value. it might not be the cheapest option, and i don't think the product is pretending to be that. i can see lots of reasons this could be a great option for lots of people:

  • guaranteed balanced diet.
  • easy for diets (eat this, and only this, in the proper potion size, and you're pretty sure to lose weight)
  • ridiculously short prep time.

personally, i'm quite interested to hear how well this idea plays out in real life. as a bit of a foodie who's trying to lose weight and eat right, i could easily imagine doing 2 meals a day with soylent and maximizing the deliciousness of the 3rd by cooking something yummy or eating somewhere nice. i'd like to hear more from people who'd tried it rather than knee-jerk naysayers.

ps. you can get through the morning on a glass of milk for breakfast? more power to you, but that wouldn't work for a lot of people

[–]JustARogue 0 ポイント1 ポイント

as a bit of a foodie

i could easily imagine doing 2 meals a day with soylent

So... not a foodie at all. Got it.

[–]lottrbist 8 ポイント9 ポイント

You worry about making a sandwich and stress over cooking a steak?

Really? It stresses you? How do you cope with more complex arrangements such as filling a car with fuel and paying for it or having a job?

[–]micktravis 10 ポイント11 ポイント

You're stressing me out.

[–]lottrbist 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Have a meal of gloop and spend three hours on the toilet, you'll feel more relaxed then.

[–]fuckyoubarry -1 ポイント0 ポイント

They're not selling these things yet.

[–]JustARogue 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Yes they are (selling Soylent), they are just backlogged. Current new orders have a 4-5 month waiting period, resupplies are 1-2 weeks.

[–]fuckyoubarry 0 ポイント1 ポイント

How the fuck are they backlogged 5 months on a food product.

[–]mjrohs 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Because lazy people are easy to market to.

[–]UlyssesSKrunk -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

or people who want to be the healthiest they can possibly be, save a bunch of time, and not break the bank.

[–]haskellnoob 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Except there is no indication they are any more healthy than anyone else, and they are expensive as hell. You seriously can't figure out how to make mashed potatoes?

[–]UlyssesSKrunk -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

wat

[–]haskellnoob 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Be more constructive with your feedback. What words are you having a hard time with?

[–]type40tardis 0 ポイント1 ポイント

All of them, I suspect.

[–]mjrohs -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

It takes me about 10 minutes of prep work about twice a week to make healthy, complete, nutritious meals. And they taste amazing. I guarantee you spend more than our $25/week per person in soylent.

[–]JustARogue 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Because they had no idea how stupid people are. You have to be near brain dead to think Soylent is a good idea. It turns out that their advertising found more of these idiots than anyone could have anticipated.

[–]fuckyoubarry 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Why do you think this is such a bad idea? I've got no ideological problems with a shelf stable healthy meal, I'd buy a few to check it out. But their marketing is silly, buy a year's supply 6 months ahead of time.

[–]JustARogue 3 ポイント4 ポイント

There are options that are cheaper, "healthier", tastier, and as shelf stable all at the same time. Ensure Plus + Protein Powder is just one example.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gbp-0Y8hhFC12F4Dmad96Ksx-2wNU1_QA6kYRhX-WVM/edit#gid=0

If you want to add just a bit more work as in open cans and heating a plate, canned meat and veggies work also and are much cheaper while offering a very wide variety of options.

Also keep in mind that Soylent must be consumed in 2000cal increments in 48hrs once opened and mixed. The other options allow you to dial portions in based on your needs.

[–]former_eve_player 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Ensure Plus + Protein Powder is just one example.

But Ensure is for old people! I'm a young, urban, creative professional. I cant be seen consuming something like Ensure. In between my tech startup work and my underground DJ gigs, I need more than just nutrition - I need a nutritional lifestyle. Ensure can't offer that. Soylent™ can.

[–]fuckyoubarry 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I always thought Soylent would be much better implemented as a big ass can of soup you eat every day. You could have different flavors, or split it up into 3 cans. It's a good idea, I'm just not sure I'd buy it from these guys.

[–]JustARogue 3 ポイント4 ポイント

So... canned soup? They sell that at the grocery store.

[–]fuckyoubarry 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Of course they sell food already. I get that. This is marketing. But they haven't marketed soup by saying "This soup is nutritionally complete. You can eat nothing but this soup, and not get rickets or some shit. You can eat one big ass can of this soup every day, nothing else, and you won't get fat or get scurvy. " That's how they're selling soylent.

I would totally buy a can of that soup.

[–]applessspider 1 ポイント2 ポイント

This made me lol pretty good :D I thank you.

[–]haskellnoob -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

They do not sell nutritionally complete soup at the grocery store. Why do so many people have such a hardon for hating soylent that they repeat completely stupid nonsense like that?

[–]Jewllz 0 ポイント1 ポイント

What the heck is Soylent??

[–]JustARogue 3 ポイント4 ポイント

An expensive gainer shake that is marketed towards tech-savvy people would want to eliminate the hassles of food from their existence aka idiots.

[–]UlyssesSKrunk -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

You have to be near brain dead to think Soylent is a good idea.

You better watch out, if your mind gets any more closed it might cause a headache.

[–]JustARogue 0 ポイント1 ポイント

You better watch out, if your mind gets any more closed it might cause a headache.

I don't think you know how heads work. Usually adding more holes isn't good.

That being said, feel free to tell me why it's a good idea. I've listed numerous reasons in the thread why it is a bad one.