Subject: chairman - canchin - Universal Topics Thread - (V ) [Print This Page]
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:45 PM Subject: chairman - canchin - Universal Topics Thread - (V )
Welcome to UTT ( V )
the 30,000 post Mega Thread...
UTT ( 1 ), UTT( 2 ), and UTT (3) have reached 10,000 (sans Mod Edits) post threads...
have concluded...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:46 PM Subject: Partial list of UTT ( 1 ) & UTT ( 2 ) ......
This is the partial list to page # 715 in UTT ( 1 )...
( partial List ) of Persons in the UTT ( 1 ) thread...
and the UTT ( 2 ) thread...........
This list is not complete...
Wowzers
Babymomo
Holidays
Sweetgirl
Reyquer
Northwest
Tmphgt
Afri Simba
1337assassin
Fatdragon
Captain2
Crazymars
Blueskies88
Pandamonium
Mjackson321
Wayves
Changabula
Jolicoeur
Ricecake
Matt 05
Pastorbob
Tekvicious
Whentong
Ivyfantasy
Sexlion
Runmouse
Iivxtii
Fluffy
Longzhou
Hallexchen
Susansusan
Redwine18
Exportedkiwi
Broken Heart
Noacts
Juliasc
Mencius
Yanjiaren
Ccpforme
Xiao Meow
Feijoa
Caringhk
Qingxun
Immouse
Mark Wu
Oscarjiang
Ktcat
Doberman
Sockmonkey
Zoelynn
Socrateets
Sudgurl
Thepeop
Eighty Eight
laincoubert
Diogenes
Tradervic
Johnhoward
Gobobo
Robert Cheng
Mira_mio
Observer 3
Lau Guan Kim
Cyberspook
Chinese Yang
Meiguoracing
Brianzhang
Mengzhi
Rovi297
Heywilma
Cestmoi
Freakyqi
Zglobal
Whampoa
Irishinuk
Terryl
Superkylin
Mike Ghet
Shelleybelly
Xilaren
Emucentral
Sundayrun
Limark
Bas
Shingozhang
Iluv2fish
Tongluren
Karenb
Canchin
chairman
Calimero
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We hope all of these people visit us again...
Thanks..
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Here is the list in alphabetical order
( compliments of Broken Heart )
1337assassin
Afri Simba
Babymomo
Bas
Blueskies88
Brianzhang
Broken Heart
Calimero
Canchin
Captain2
Caringhk
Ccpforme
Cestmoi
chairman
Changabula
Chinese Yang
Crazymars
Cyberspook
Diogenes
Doberman
Eighty Eight
Emucentral
Exportedkiwi
Fatdragon
Feijoa
Fluffy
Freakyqi
Gobobo
Hallexchen
Heywilma
Holidays
laincoubert
Iivxtii
Iluv2fish
Immouse
Irishinuk
Ivyfantasy
Johnhoward
Jolicoeur
Juliasc
Karenb
Ktcat
Lau Guan Kim
Limark
Longzhou
Mark Wu
Matt 05
Meiguoracing
Mencius
Mengzhi
Mike Ghet
Mira_mio
Mjackson321
Noacts
Northwest
Observer 3
Oscarjiang
Pandamonium
Pastorbob
Qingxun
Redwine18
Reyquer
Ricecake
Robert Cheng
Rovi297
Runmouse
Sexlion
Shelleybelly
Shingozhang
Sockmonkey
Socrateets
Sudgurl
Sundayrun
Superkylin
Susansusan
Sweetgirl
Tekvicious
Terryl
Thepeop
Tmphgt
Tongluren
Tradervic
Wayves
Whampoa
Whentong
Wowzers
Xiao Meow
Xilaren
Yanjiaren
Zglobal
Zoelynn
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:48 PM Subject: This is the SEAL of the UTT's
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:49 PM Subject: UTT - stuff...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:52 PM Subject: M.I.A. - Chairman & Canchin
Due to events beyond their control - Chairman and Canchin may or may not grace this thread. To that end - I post their avatars, so that people may remember what they looked like.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:57 PM Subject: Over the months there have been...
... a wide variety of cute and funny avatars and photos.
Care to share with the audience?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 10:58 PM Subject: Some come from bad studs...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:00 PM Subject: Others from other lands...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:02 PM Subject: Others from other worlds...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:03 PM Subject: Far away worlds...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:04 PM Subject: Some are cute...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:06 PM Subject: Some are strange...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:06 PM Subject: While others are just smart@$$ !
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:09 PM Subject: Something to remember about this time of the year...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:13 PM Subject: Zeta-Jones: Chairman's old flame
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:18 PM Subject: Hm...
Looks like the old post to credit ratio has changed - looks like a few threads have gone down in flames. 
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:21 PM Subject: So...
What does it take to become a mod? What does it take to gain a digest post? Inquiring minds want to know! 
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Author: pandamonium Time: 2007-12-20 11:21 PM Subject: Where's Chairman?
I got one of these and
now I am not sure which end of it I want to be 
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:23 PM Subject: Long Time Pandamonium...
Long Story on Chairman, but I am sure someone will have story about in a few days...
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:26 PM Subject: AK-Forty Seven!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvAfTU2haE
Have to agree with Samuel L. Jackson on this issue. 
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Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-20 11:28 PM
Pleased to meet you Panda
do not point it at me
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:29 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
betrayed at 12/20/2007 09:28 AM
Pleased to meet you Panda
do not point it at me
Author: pandamonium Time: 2007-12-20 11:32 PM Subject: I have the same problem over her too
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Author: pandamonium Time: 2007-12-20 11:33 PM Subject: To the toilet
I go
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-20 11:34 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
pandamonium at 12/20/2007 09:32 AM
Have you been a bad boy? 
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-21 12:16 AM Subject: Is it me, or...
... did konggue become an unperson?
Author: satsu_jin Time: 2007-12-21 12:40 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2007-12-21 00:1
... did konggue become an unperson?
......or he's just visiting his Arab friends.
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-21 02:20 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
satsu_jin at 12/20/2007 10:0 AM
......or he's just visiting his Arab friends.
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-21 10:30 AM Subject: So...
What do we talk about today? Hm...
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 10:58 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
pandamonium at 2007-12-20 23:21
I got one of these and
now I am not sure which end of it I want to be
This is probably more apropriate for you panda and even gives you clues as to which way you should point it. Good to see you back again. 
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:00 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2007-12-21 10:30
What do we talk about today? Hm...
Well, I thought you had been banned from posting pics? So panda might want a link to some of your good stuff.
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-21 11:00 AM
Looks like Panda's been doing traffic duty in Chengdu
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:01 AM
Twenty Three and Thirty
cool
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:03 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
pandamonium at 2007-12-20 23:32
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:06 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
betrayed at 2007-12-21 11:01
Twenty Three and Thirty
cool
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-21 11:12 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
fatdragon at 12/20/2007 09:00 PM
Well, I thought you had been banned from posting pics? So panda might want a link to some of your good stuff.
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:18 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2007-12-21 11:12
The Mods have been playing their tunes and I try to match steps with them - feel free to change the beat.
Three German Officers crossed the Rhine, parlaiz vous,
Three German Of.....
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:19 AM
Three German Officers crossed the Rhine, parlaiz vous,
Three German Officers crossed the Rhine, parlaiz vous,
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:21 AM
Trader Vic
you should edit it to UTT ( V )
because chairman and Canchin
would not use " FOUR " as four is not lucky
after the 30,000 in ( III )
they would have jumped to " V " which is five
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:22 AM
as a true blue American
you would have missed that
as you abviously did
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:23 AM Subject: According to the Daily Telegraph
''Shotgun licences issued to eight-year-olds'' said the Daily Telegraph in London.
''Flak jackets are now essential fashion items for the UK and China should seize this business opportunity by scaling up production'' said a British expat living in the safety of his Chendu home.
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:23 AM
Plagiarism 101
already deleted
probably by the plagiarist
how sad
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-21 11:30 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by betrayed at 12/20/2007 09:21 PM
Trader Vic
you should edit it to UTT ( V )
because chairman and Canchin
would not use " FOUR " as four is not lucky
after the 30,000 in ( III )
they would have jumped to &q ...
Truth I have never heard the issue with unlucky fours - thirteen yes - four no.
But, it has been changed - let the carnage begin!!!!!!
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-21 11:34 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by fatdragon at 12/20/2007 09:23 PM
''Shotgun licences issued to eight-year-olds'' said the Daily Telegraph in London.
''Flak jackets are now essential fashion items for the UK and China should seize this business opportunity by s ...
<snort> Coming from Detroit and living in Chicago - I quote the MC5...
KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHERF*CKERS!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8o3y5wP8
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:34 AM Subject: All pulling together
In the PM's conference speech, Mr Brown stated that immigrants would have to learn to behave themselves if they wanted to stay in the country.
But the UK's Border and Immigration Agency is ignoring the Prime Minister's edict and told prison chiefs it has "no interest" in deporting foreign national prisoners serving less than a year.
That reminds me that I must pay the visa office another visit and renew as another 12 months has rolled by.
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:36 AM
I would probably not lose my bet
if I said you conatcted Beijing to shut the UTT
JEALOUSY and ENVY of small people
is something we must all deal with
as I must deal with small little you
the PLAGIARISM was al arge event
and was proven
why you expect me
to present the details of Canchin
is beyond me
ring him yourself you moronic twit
you choose the foul creature and his lies and sexual deviance
over all insulted members
it says much for you Wowzers
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Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:38 AM
Wowzers
wants to protect and take the side of the sexual crude and rude and spite fillied plagiarist
Wchao37
Betrayed
is exactly what it says
BETRAYED
look it up in the dictionary you disguisting little back stabbing turncoat
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:38 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by betrayed at 2007-12-21 11:25
Moderators
a great many members already know
when you delete these things
it means YOU ALSO KNOW
and shows and displays you in a very bad light
to protect a PLAGIARIST
in the CD
...
That'll get deleted.
Last night, following an offensive post in UTT which subsequently got deleted along with my response and one from zglobal, I suggested that it was not a good idea for Moderators to moderate threads in which they participated. It got deleted.
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:40 AM
And for anyone who is more new than 2 years or so
go back and search in TTCDf
and you will find
this Wowzers person
being attacked day and night by Wchao37
as a JEW and a ZIONIST
and now here he is
large as life
trying as he might to protect Wchao37
against something that it is not possible to protect him
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-21 11:40 AM
Hmmm intersting how two totally reasonable guys like wowzers and betrayed are at loggerheads.
Not sure how it started but I've never yet seen a situation that two reasonable guys couldn't resolve
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:47 AM
Further to this
it was very noble of Canchin to decline the position due to a bias
nice man Canchin
who by the way
Wchao37 insists is chairman
and obviously his mate agree's with him
but Beijing know they are 2 people
not one people
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-21 11:47 AM
I didn't see him defend wchao yesterday, quite the opposite?
Maybe he's just a nice guy and doesn't want to get involved.
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:48 AM Subject: Trying to divert the flames... again....
QUOTE:
Originally posted by fatdragon at 2007-12-21 11:3
In the PM's conference speech, Mr Brown stated that immigrants would have to learn to behave themselves if they wanted to stay in the country.
But the UK's Border and Immigration Agency is ignor ...
Lower level offenders are encouraged by a ''bribe" of £1,500 to go home voluntarily.
I'm sure if we set up an agency we could all make loads of money.
Maybe ''Fagin's Employment Agency''?
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-21 11:52 AM
and I might add
that Wowzers thinks it is all fime to rape a 10 year old girl
why do we know that
?????????????
because there is a whole thread that he ignores
why
because he thinks 9 black men on a 10 year old is all ok
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 11:53 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by fatdragon at 2007-12-21 11:8
Lower level offenders are encouraged by a ''bribe" of £1,500 to go home voluntarily.
I'm sure if we set up an agency we could all make loads of money.
Maybe ''Fagin's Employme ...
In addition, all foreign prisoners receive a fourty six pound sterling discharge grant on leaving jail. (wtf is wrong with printing ?)
I'm just talking to myself here aren't I? Silly question! 
Author: wowzers Time: 2007-12-21 11:58 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by betrayed at 2007-12-21 11:52
and I might add
that Wowzers thinks it is all fime to rape a 10 year old girl
why do we know that
?????????????
because there is a whole thread that he ignores
why
because he thin ...
Can you sink any lower?
I am not ignoring any threads.
I comment where I please.
But speaking of this thread it is obvious that you are using this story to further your own agenda.
And I for one am not going to support your twisted desires.
Pathetic!
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-21 12:01 PM
Do I qualify as an offender Fatdragon?
It could be a new investment opportunity....
Can I be a repeat offender?
How many times a week can I offend?
Sorry....
...Just crunching numbers here
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 12:07 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
zglobal at 2007-12-21 12:01
Do I qualify as an offender Fatdragon?
It could be a new investment opportunity....
Can I be a repeat offender?
How many times a week can I offend?
Sorry....
...Just crunching ...
Has Mrs zglobal got into the spirit of Christmas yet or is she busy spending all the money on baby clothes?
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 12:09 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
zglobal at 2007-12-21 12:01
Do I qualify as an offender Fatdragon?
It could be a new investment opportunity....
Can I be a repeat offender?
How many times a week can I offend?
Sorry....
...Just crunching ...
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-21 12:11 PM
""" Has Mrs zglobal got into the spirit of Christmas yet or is she busy spending all the money on baby clothes? """"
haha you are assuming that I know if it's a boy or a girl.......
That I would break the rules so I know whether to buy blue or pink
She doesn't need to buy clothes to spend all the money 
She asked me if I had any money this morning.
How much do you need dear?
How much do you have?
God I hate that
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-21 12:16 PM Subject: I will say that ...
Dr Wacko is extremely offensive ....
But the master of cut'n'paste plagiarism is changabula ....
Author: wowzers Time: 2007-12-21 12:34 PM Subject: chairman
How many times have I asked you to defend your claim?
And how many times have you since posted attacking me?
Why shoot the messenger?
The message remains!
Simply defend your claim and all this will be over.
Why fight it?
Is it because you know you can't?
I pity you!
I really do!
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 12:39 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by zglobal at 2007-12-21 12:11
""" Has Mrs zglobal got into the spirit of Christmas yet or is she busy spending all the money on baby clothes? """"
haha you are assuming that I know if it's ...
Well, you pointedly ignored my flippant remarks in your thread on the subject of scans. 
But this shopping thing is a genetc trait:
Mrs FD: ''I am just going to help my daughter buy a Christmas tree.''
FD: ''OK Dear, see you later and don't spend all the money.''
Mrs FD: ''Don't be silly, I don't need any money.''
FD: ''Perhaps you should leave the big money behind?''
Mrs FD: ''Dohhh! I don't need anything.''
Six hours later and six LARGE shopping bags later:
Mrs FD: ''Darling, I'm back. Can you give me a hand with the shopping because it's too heavy! I've got lots of things YOU needed.''
FD:
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-21 12:46 PM
""""
Mrs FD: ''I am just going to help my daughter buy a Christmas tree.''
FD: ''OK Dear, see you later and don't spend all the money.''
Mrs FD: ''Don't be silly, I don't need any money.''
FD: ''Perhaps you should leave the big money behind?''
Mrs FD: ''Dohhh! I don't need anything.''
Six hours later and six LARGE shopping bags later:
Mrs FD: ''Darling, I'm back. Can you give me a hand with the shopping because it's too heavy! I've got lots of things YOU needed.''
""""
Doh, stop writing about my life
Author: wowzers Time: 2007-12-21 01:32 PM Subject: chairman now posing as betrayed
Originally posted by wowzers at 2007-12-21 12:52
Why are you hiding behind "betrayed"?
Why don't you defend your claim of plagiarism against wchao?
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-21 05:34 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2007-12-21 11:12
The Mods have been playing their tunes and I try to match steps with them - feel free to change the beat.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-22 02:12 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by fatdragon at 12/21/2007 03:3 AM
Well, just remember when you are posting your pictures, none of this sort of thing or it will be off to the Troll Room for you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages ... amp;in_page_id=1811
Photos from the Harbin Ice Festival
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-22 10:30 AM
QUOTE:
Good morning Trader, gentlemen.
I think that picture should be safe although it might become the subject of a flame war and remodelled into the London Eye.
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-22 10:39 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by fatdragon at 12/21/2007 08:30 PM
Good morning Trader, gentlemen.
I think that picture should be safe although it might become the subject of a flame war and remodelled into the London Eye.
Then you want to check out the London Daily Mail - they had a full spread of the Harbin Ice Festival. Hm... looks like the mods have been busy again.
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-22 10:46 AM Subject: Todays news
Doubt has been cast on the wisdom humans should drink eight glasses of water a day, although the recommendation dates back to 195.
Studies revealed that people get plenty of fluid simply through their consumption of juice, milk and even tea and coffee.
Clinical evidence also highlighted the danger of drinking too much water
Hell, I've been saying that for donkey's years. Beer is much safer.
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-22 10:58 AM Subject: Whaling
''Japan shelves humpback whale hunt plan''
Yeah, right! Until they think that no one's looking.
Perhaps Australia and China could join forces and form a mutual whale defence pact. ................
Joint excercises to test a new humpback stealth missile designed to blow a whaling factory out of the water. Yeah!!! I can see it now.
But, sadly this is reality:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth ... 2/21/eawhale221.xml
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-22 11:08 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2007-12-22 10:39
Then you want to check out the London Daily Mail - they had a full spread of the Harbin Ice Festival. Hm... looks like the mods have been busy again.
It was very popular and all the nice people went there and practiced being a troll. Great fun as we mimicked some of the tactics of our resident trolls. The Mods obviously believed we were all serious and decided that more than 50% of the posts should be removed. Then they decided that it should more properly live in Free Talk. Then they moved it back again. And this morning they have eliminated it completely.
And to think of the plans I had for the room. Ahh well, never mind. Today's another day.
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-22 11:15 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
fatdragon at 12/21/2007 09:08 PM
Well, while you were in bed - I created a Troll Room so that all the troublemakers on the site (guess that includes me
) could go and conduct their mindless flame wars without offending us in ...
And the merry dance continues...
You should of seen my post about scooters, it was funny.
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-22 11:20 AM Subject: And other news....
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2007-12-22 10:39
Then you want to check out the London Daily Mail -
Well they did give me this.....
The spirit of political correctness Christmas.
A 9 year old boy has been barred from the school Christmas party because his parents had asked for him and his brother to be exempted from RE lessons.
and
Women's Institute members are told not to say prayers at the Carol Concert because it might offend people who believe in the religion which was founded on a story about a stable and some shepherds and three wise men (is that another bug that cased be to spell it out?).....
So the words from one of the most popular words of the carols should please them....
Away in a manger,
No crib for His bed,
The little Lord Jesus,
Laid down His sweet head.
The stars in the bright sky,
Looked down where He lay,
The little Lord Jesus,
Asleep on the hay.
The cattle are lowing,
The poor Baby wakes,
But little Lord Jesus,
No crying He makes.
I love Thee, Lord Jesus,
Look down from the sky,
And stay by my side,
'Til morning is nigh.
Be near me, Lord Jesus,
I ask Thee to stay,
Close by me forever,
And love me I pray.
Bless all the dear children,
In Thy tender care,
And take us to heaven,
To live with Thee there.
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-22 11:32 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2007-12-22 11:15
You should of seen my post ...
I do hope it wasn't as corrupting for our young and vulnerable minds as this picture obviously is:
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Author: robertcheng Time: 2007-12-22 08:39 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2007-12-20 22:5
Welcome to UTT ( V )
the 30,000 post Mega Thread...
UTT ( 1 ), UTT( 2 ), and UTT (3) have reached 10,000 (sans Mod Edits) post threads...
have concluded...
copycat thread ?....
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-23 07:18 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
robertcheng at 12/22/2007 0:39 AM
copycat thread ?....
I liked that thread - and with the chairman and canchin M.I.A. - I got this thread up and running.
Since the mods have not taken the lock off of III - V will have to do.
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 08:04 AM
yes I liked UTT ( III )
as well
so did about EIGHT to NINE others
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 10:42 AM Subject: I liked ....
The UTT battle to the death with the giant lobster ...
Sort of like a Hollywood B Movie
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 10:53 AM
Yeah
and the FIGHT between chairman and the Englshman
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 10:58 AM
and
the FLUFFY chairman love affair
so deep
so
so
DEEP
I wonder how deep that COW DUNG of Emucentral's was
probably the same
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 11:03 AM
ENGLISHMAN
BGEES
" HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE "
based on Emucentral's Cow Dung
" How deep is your dung "
has a real ring to it
A New James Dung move
00 OOPS
so many
HAVE DUNG WILL TRAVEL
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 11:06 AM Subject: You beat me to it!
Can you feel the dung (love) tonight?
Emu is a good chap - his heart is in the right place ... It is the wacho's, the mengzhi's, the northwests and the changballs that wind him up!
I know he had a soft spot for the dearly departed chairman RIP ... sniff
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 11:11 AM
yes I know
I do not agree with the Politics of Emucentral
but hold the opinion that he is GOOD CHAP sometimes
shame he did not kiss chairman goodbye when he had the chance
in any case
chairman was the most fair of the China Side
the least the CD could do
is keep his UTT ( III ) open
and your right about Emucentral
sometimes he calls me chairman
I guess he needs to ( SURPREMES ) reach out and touch
I spoke with Canchin on the phone the other day
he sent me the Chinese National Song for my telphone
cool
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 11:12 AM
Caringhk Simulation
" RUGZ "
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-23 11:59 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
fatdragon at 12/20/2007 08:58 PM
Good morning panda, gentlemen. I see that many posts have been deleted by the Christmas fairy ovenight including one or two of mine. Who said that the Mods trust me.
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJMg9FBLSo
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-23 12:03 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tmphgt at 12/22/2007 08:2 PM
The UTT battle to the death with the giant lobster ...
Sort of like a Hollywood B Movie
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-23 12:07 PM Subject: Cannot forget about Dr. Zoidberg!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-23 12:08 PM Subject: Too bad about that sex scene...
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-23 12:15 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2007-12-23 11:59
Nice Photo - Reminds me of an episode of Robot Chicken:
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJMg9FBLSo
That's got to be in very bad taste - for an American.
We have a house full of Americans on Boxing Day (2th). I shall recommend they pay you a visit after Christmas.
For (2th) read (twenty sixth). Stupid translation software.
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Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 12:20 PM
The next number after 5, the next number after 5, the next number after 5 ...
The Number of the Beast ...
Sacrifice is going on tonight!
I was amazed to find Iron Maiden songs at the KTV a few days ago ... However I did manage a stonking rendition of We are the Champions - could have done was a backing group though
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:24 PM
WE WILL
WE WILL
ROCK YOU
7 minus 1 7 minus 1 7 minus 1
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-23 12:26 PM
""""" I know he had a soft spot for the dearly departed chairman RIP ... sniff """"
Me too
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:32 PM
sniff sob howl
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-23 12:32 PM
The racist bigots are alive and kicking today. Resident bigot in the Daily Talegraph in London calling himself grumpylarry hates china. Anything China does, he twists into something which belittles China and Chinese people.
Pay him a visit folks and wish him a Happy Christmas as only the likes of our own resident Nationalists can do. Don't waste your time with our friendly emu - spend Christmas with grumpylarry on the Dailytelegraph.
Today he's rubbishing China's new jet:
my.telegraph.co.uk/grumpylarry/december_2007/china_s_new_air_liner.
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Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:35 PM
MONGREL
CRIMINAL
BAD BOY
BAD BOY
WHAT YA GONNA DO WHEN WE COME FOR YOU
BAD BOY
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-23 12:38 PM Subject: Aeeergh!
What is wrong with hotlinking?
Cut and paste into the URL bar is your only option on the new CD.
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 12:39 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee are the chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaampions my friennnnnnnnnnnds ...
Shame I don't drink otherwise the rendition would have been much better
Yeah, Fat D ... racist crap all over the place .... Sigh ...
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 12:39 PM Subject: Then again ...
flotsam, jetsam, ricman .... we had our share of rampant racists here too
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:44 PM
FATDRAGON
I had the same problem with MENGZHI
the links do not work anymore today
I already asked why
?
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:44 PM
One man's racist is another man's relative
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:49 PM
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:50 PM
I read what he wrote
MONGREL ENGLISHMAN
---------------------------------------
not you Guitar man
that one at the Telegraph
send him to Cape York in Queensland
put a Wig on him
see how he likes that
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 12:51 PM
QUICKLY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU ARE ALL WANTING TO ASK
.
.
.
TO PROTECT THE AVATAR
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-23 01:01 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by betrayed at 2007-12-23 12:51
QUICKLY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU ARE ALL WANTING TO ASK
.
.
.
TO PROTECT THE AVATAR
Talking of avatars:
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Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-23 01:02 PM
Iike that one.........
Now who could use it best on CD?
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 01:03 PM Subject: Post #105
Not Mr Betrayed, he is only 33
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:05 PM
fatdragon one hundred and five
ha ha ha
cool
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-23 01:05 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
betrayed at 2007-12-23 12:50
I read what he wrote
MONGREL ENGLISHMAN
---------------------------------------
not you Guitar man
that one at the Telegraph
send him to Cape York in Queensland
put a ...
my.telegraph.co.uk/grumpylarry/
We used to fight him but he never listened or even conducted a debate - just posted more bile.
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:06 PM
33
yes
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:06 PM
iop
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 01:18 PM Subject: grumpylarry
Well, I took the time to see his scribbles ...
Sure, there are facts in there - cut'n'pasted from elsewhere ..... However we do not need the sarcastic xenophobia inducing comments that he throws in at the end.
Once upon a time some Made in China stuff was cr@p but over the years the quality has shot up. Who cares if the Chinese airliner is a clone or built from parts from elsewhere? That is how Japan started and then took the lead in electronics.
China will follow that path. Make cr@p copies ... then make good copies ... then make excellent copies ... then enhance the copies with new ideas ... then make totally fresh and new things ...
I see China as somewhere between 3 and * in that list of steps. 5 is already happening too.
* = FOUR
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:21 PM
:
@
CHINA HATERS and CHINA BASHERS
deserve worse than I imagine I would give them on my worst day
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:22 PM
.
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Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 01:22 PM
grumpylarry is 71 - probably senile, and very likely hates everything
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:23 PM
he sacked the summer palace
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 01:24 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
betrayed at 23-12-2007 05:23 AM
he sacked the summer palace
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:26 PM
He sent gun boats iinto the Pearl River to bomb Guangzhou
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:28 PM
://news.theage.com.au/eu-braces-for-end-of-chinese-clothing-quotas/20071223-1ipl.l
Author: tmphgt Time: 2007-12-23 01:28 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
betrayed at 23-12-2007 05:2 AM
He sent gun boats iinto the Pearl River to bomb Guangzhou
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-23 01:28 PM Subject: Yes
A few less old codgers like grumpylarry and more like this. At least she likes something.
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Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:30 PM
and the arrow war
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 01:42 PM
Resident GURU FATDRAGON
will not past
H
T
T
P
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 03:44 PM
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-23 08:04 PM
Goodnight Guys
Betrayed calling is a night
bye
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2007-12-24 01:48 AM Subject: Static interruption
Duke
Duke
Duke of Earl
Duke
Duke
Duke
Duke of Earl
...
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-24 02:37 AM
cool
Author: betrayed Time: 2007-12-24 02:44 AM
Xmas Eve in China
OFF TO WORK
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2007-12-24 05:21 AM Subject: "The Weight" by The Band
I pulled into Nazareth, I was feelin' about half past dead;
I just need some place where I can lay my head.
"Hey, mister, can you tell me where a man might find a bed?"
He just grinned and shook my hand, and "No!", was all he said.
(Chorus
Take a load off Fannie, take a load for free;
Take a load off Fannie, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me.
I picked up my bag, I went lookin' for a place to hide;
When I saw Carmen and the Devil walkin' side by side.
I said, "Hey, Carmen, come on, let's go downtown."
She said, "I gotta go, but m'friend can stick around."
(Chorus)
Go down, Miss Moses, there's nothin' you can say
It's just ol' Luke, and Luke's waitin' on the Judgement Day.
"Well, Luke, my friend, what about young Anna Lee?"
He said, "Do me a favor, son, woncha stay an' keep Anna Lee
company?"
(Chorus)
Crazy Chester followed me, and he caught me in the fog.
He said, "I will fix your rags, if you'll take Jack, my dog."
I said, "Wait a minute, Chester, you know I'm a peaceful man."
He said, "That's okay, boy, won't you feed him when you can."
(Chorus)
Catch a Cannonball, now, t'take me down the line
My bag is sinkin' low and I do believe it's time.
To get back to Miss Annie, you know she's the only one.
Who sent me here with her regards for everyone.
(Chorus)
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2007-12-24 05:21 AM
merry Christmas, pal!
Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-24 09:20 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
betrayed at 2007-12-2 02:
Xmas Eve in China
OFF TO WORK
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2007-12-24 09:21 AM
In case you were wondering - I just need a visa extension for another year.
Author: zglobal Time: 2007-12-24 11:35 AM
Well. I'm too scared to go out in case I'm accosted by another skinny Chinese Santa.
Author: tradervic Time: 2007-12-24 09:02 PM Subject: We are now ajoured to the following thread again!
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/vie ... p;extra=#pid1226401
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:28 AM Subject: Correction:
Ajourement is now at:
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/vie ... &extra=page%3D1
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:00 PM Subject: I say thee this...
... UTTs V and VI - first thread to 10,000 wins the famous Marvel No-Prize.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:04 PM Subject: <Cue Up AC/DC - Highway to Hell
Ac Dc - Highway To Hell Lyrics
Living easy, livin free
Season ticket, on a one - way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Dont need reason, dont need rhyme
Aint nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too
Im on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Im on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
No stop signs, speedin limit
Nobodys gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobodys gonna mess me round
Hey Satan! Paid my dues.
Playin in a rockin band
Hey Mama! Look at me
Im on my way to the promise land
Im on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Im on the highway to hell
Highway to hell
Dont stop me!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:08 PM Subject: Then again, it has been said...
... that Hell merely rests in the left hand of God.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:10 PM Subject: And being in Michigan...
... Hell does have a seasonal period of freezing over...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:11 PM Subject: Then again, there is a summer in Hell...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:12 PM Subject: The folks hitchhiking to hell are a bit curious...
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Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-6 11:37 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-6 23:00
... UTTs IV and VI - first thread to 10,000 wins the famous Marvel No-Prize.
Is that the new Thor?
Kool!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:38 PM Subject: Interesting Quote from Chairman Mao
Classes struggle, some classes triumph, others are eliminated. Such is history, such is the history of civilization for thousands of years. To interpret history from this viewpoint is historical materialism; standing in opposition to this viewpoint is historical idealism.
In class society everyone lives as a member of a particular class, and every kind of thinking, without exception, is stamped with the brand of a class.
It is up to us to organize the people. As for the reactionaries in China, it is up to us to organize the people to overthrow them. Everything reactionary is the same; if you don't hit it, it won't fall. This is also like sweeping the floor; as a rule, where the broom does not reach, the dust will not vanish of itself.
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Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-6 11:43 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-6 23:38
where the broom does not reach, the dust will not vanish of itself.
That's some pretty cold shizzle right there...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:45 PM Subject: Yet a change has occured in China...
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Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-6 11:45 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-6 23:30
... been paved with good intentions...
First time I ever heard that was from the father of an ex...
From Detroit BTW
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:51 PM Subject: Just remember kiddies...
Liberty Loves Justice!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-6 11:59 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/6/2008 09:43 AM
That's some pretty cold shizzle right there...
There is a lot of old guard left in China - from the cities to the farmlands, that remember those words.
They have no use for the new generations...
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Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-7 12:08 AM
You are mistaken the New Guard is the Old Guard!
Spend some time here and you just might understand that...
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-7 12:08 AM
Happy New Year BTW!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 08:55 AM Subject: <chuckle>
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/6/2008 10:08 AM
You are mistaken the New Guard is the Old Guard!
Spend some time here and you just might understand that...
Oh... methinks you have not spent enough time there, and just in the tourist areas...
www politicalaffairs net article articleview 6374 1 310
Marxist Thought Online
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 08:59 AM Subject: Tidbit of the article from Political Affairs...
Despite such achievements and laudable goals, the extensive privatization of industry and the emphasis on entrepreneurial activity, both accompanying the shift to a market economy, have caused dramatic and unanticipated social inequalities. Scarcely reporting the positive developments in China, the New York Times almost daily reports cases of labor abuse; industrial accidents; pollution of air, land and water; and other calamities. These developments involve, in many instances, violation of national laws on labor rights, occupational health and safety, and environmental protection.
How can these conditions exist in a state led by a Communist Party? How is it possible when China¡¯s constitution declares China to be ¡°a socialist state under the people¡¯s democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and peasants¡±?
First of all, we must remember that China is still a relatively underdeveloped country, in which local and regional bodies must have considerable autonomy to provide the necessary infrastructure necessary to maintain its rapid pace of economic development. With China¡¯s large area, most of which still lacks an adequate economic and data accumulation/data processing infrastructure, the national government is unable to devote the resources necessary to monitor and control sufficiently the implementation of national laws. It relies on the often-unreliable political level of development of the local authorities anxious to demonstrate impressive economic performance. Compounding the difficulties is the corruption universally associated with underdevelopment.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:10 PM Subject: Time for something really saucy...
Forlorn female physician, naughty nurse, minister to patients with tender, loving lust
February 2, 2008 - Mainichi Japan
Due to a serious medical error, Sanae (a pseudonym), an attractive 30-year-old female physician, wound up being banished from the big city and sent to head a small hospital in a rural district.
Most people would probably envy me because Im a doctor, she confesses morosely to Jitsuwa Knuckles (March). But my life has become a living hell.
Sanaes troubles began when she met her husband, a medical school classmate. They married two years after their graduation, and thanks to her husbands family connections, the couple landed cushy positions at a major urban hospital owned by her father-in-law.
Groomed, through a series of elite schools, to become a physician, Sanae had few opportunities in life for any real fun, and the exhausting medical school regimen and internship took a further toll. Then tragedy struck.
Through an erroneous procedure during treatment, I caused a patient, a close friend, to die, she murmurs.
Well, thats the official account anyway.
Actually, it was my husband who made the mistake, she confides. But since his father owned the hospital and was determined to protect the familys reputation, it was covered up and I had to shoulder the blame. So my husband remained at his job and I wound up getting transferred to this small hospital out in the sticks.
I wanted to save peoples lives, and threw myself into my work totally, she remarks. I do receive a high salary here, but its really just hush money to keep me quiet.
But after Risa, a lovely 24-year-old nurse, started work at the hospital, things began to change. Oh-la-la did they change!
One day after work, Id been drowning my sorrows in alcohol and Risa walked up and kissed me on the mouth, Sanae recalls. The next thing I knew we were both wet with lust.
That was when I realized that the clinic was a good place as any to get it on. And I figured that by giving my patients exemplary care, this would ameliorate my guilt for having let my friend die.
From this sense of deep remorse, Sanaes solution was to seek salvation by serving up sex.
First, it began by learning not to lose my temper, she relates. Being sexually harassed by male patients was a common occurrence -- I was used to that -- but by not responding when patients only harassed me verbally, I allowed things to escalate to the next stage, which was asking me for sex.
Naturally I couldnt refuse them. Of course this bothered me in the beginning, but I gradually learned to tolerate it -- as the way to make up for my wrongdoing, of causing the death of my friend.
Certainly Sanae could not be faulted for her impeccable bedside manners.
Soon, word got around that the lovely young doctor suffered from feverish lust, and the locals began exchanging sniggering whispers that her clinic was a whorehouse that took health insurance.
For male patients admitted to the wards, Risa -- who provided perky pink oral pacifiers by never wearing a bra under her nurses uniform -- and the Doc would make the rounds, working day and night shifts and getting patients off any time they requested it.
It finally came to the point that Dr. Sanae would make the late-evening rounds accompanied by Nurse Risa, and, when the opportunity arose, pounce playfully on male patients to perform therapeutic threesomes.
When I pulled back the sheets, the scent their male body odors made me want to get down from my high horse as a doctor and beg them to do it, Sanae sighs to Jitsuwa Knuckles. It was still better than going back to my dark, lonely room.
I just wanted to feel the warmth of a body -- any body. (By Masuo Kamiyama, contributing writer.)
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:11 PM Subject: By the way folks...
... looks like someone has a bit cross with me last week.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:15 PM Subject: But I was assured by the Mod Squad that...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:18 PM Subject: Looks like the dear Doctor is on a rant again...
Is it me, or is he looks to cause a fight? Or maybe he is looking to start an international incident before the Olympics? <snort> And I am the one accused of being a foreign agent?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:21 PM Subject: Yesterday was a bit wierd also...
... in the fact that vvovvzers came along to talk about the Dear Doctor, yet wowzers is maybe enjoying the New Year Vacation.
It might explain the odd post I saw in the New York Times:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:25 PM Subject: Interesting Article out of Russia
Translated by Ksenia Sedyakina - Pravda - 30.01.2008
Vegetarians can be referred to as true fanatics. On the other hand, they are seriously misled in their beliefs. Practically nobody argues with them, since it is really difficult to convince a vegetarian of his or her self-deception. May be that is the reason why the vegetarian movement develops so actively around the globe and continues to recruit many new members.
To produce a cell is not an easy process for the human body. Being a parent to all cells, a human being is supposed to be responsible for all of them. The human body is unable to generate all substances necessary for the production of cells. It has only 12 or 20 protein amino acids required for the process. The remaining chemicals are supposed to be delivered with food. Each and every human cell is supposed to be supplied with first class animal protein.
Some may say that there is enough protein in vegetables (beans, for example) True, but recent studies show that vegetable protein can be digested only with the help of its animal analogue.
The human body has its own preferences, by the way. Experts proved that our body requires and assimilates the following substances as construction materials:
Egg white ¨C 100 Percent
Soured milk ¨C 90 Percent
Fresh milk ¨C 83 Percent
Beef ¨C 76 Percent
Cottage cheese ¨C 75 Percent
Compare this data with that concerning vegetable protein:
Wheat bread ¨C 52 Percent
This is the main reason why dietitians recommend to consume 60 percent of animal protein and 40 percent of vegetable analogue from the daily ration.
No vitamins and mineral substances are of any use if our organism does not receive animal protein. Like vegetable protein, they can not be digested without animal protein.
Vegetarians, especially those of advanced age, usually face numerous health problems that are mainly caused with the shortage of animal protein. After two months of no-meat diet, the quantity of protein in the cardiac muscle decreases four times, which triggers the development of heart failure. The work of all other organs worsens soon after. A vegetarian man or woman may find themselves on the brink of dystrophy.
First signs of dystrophy are not that evident and burdensome, but the resulting effect may lead to lamentable consequences. Have you ever seen starving African children on TV? Then you must remember those thin legs and swelled bellies, which dystrophy causes.
If you are going to have children, do not be in a hurry to join vegetarians. Many people think that such lifestyle produces rejuvenating effect which showing a positive effect on the reproduction function. However, reproduction depends on animal protein to a large extend. If a man does not receive irreplaceable amino acids with food, he can become infertile in perspective.
Furthermore, cosmetologists say that a typical vegetarian has dry and fragile hair, dull eyes and unhealthy complexion. They can hardly stand criticism and have a low boiling point. They raise their voice, swing their arms and splutter when arguing. They are weak even in their logic. They exemplify their righteousness with the cow, a herbivorous animal, and say that nature originally made a human being as a vegetarian creature.
Experts have recently put forward a hypothesis that can justify vegetarians. Scientists assert that there are people with irregular metabolism. They do not need animal protein at all. However, such people can be described as a mistake of nature. There are many of them, but most vegetarians are mistaken in their devotion according to this theory.
Of course, meat is heavy food, but nobody says that you should eat plenty of it. A person can eat at least 100g of meat (which is the size of a matchbox) a day to feel healthy.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:26 PM Subject: Science Story from Pravda
Margarita Snegireva - Pravda - 02/06/2008
British scientists have created human embryos containing DNA from two women and a man in a procedure that researchers hope might be used one day to produce embryos free of inherited diseases.
Though the preliminary research has raised concerns about the possibility of genetically modified babies, the scientists say that the embryos are still only primarily the product of one man and one woman.
We are not trying to alter genes, were just trying to swap a small proportion of the bad ones for some good ones, said Patrick Chinnery, a professor of neurogenetics at Newcastle University involved in the research.
Altering eggs is not a new idea but the groundbreaking development is the technique to actually prevent genetic disease. Researchers say the next step is to let these three parent embryos grow beyond a few days, to see if they can actually become healthy babies.
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Author: wchao37 Time: 2008-2-9 11:29 PM
Nice picture.
Cut and paste is really neat too.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by wchao37 at 2/9/2008 09:29 AM
Nice picture.
Cut and paste is really neat too.
Oh... I do try. Then it is merely a matter of time, is it not?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:33 PM Subject: And remember folks, if the words sound familar...
... it is because they have been used before.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:37 PM Subject: See kiddies... being from the Metro Detroit Area...
... I got the privliege to witness the Michigan Militia Movement in the late 1980s/early 1990s.
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Author: wchao37 Time: 2008-2-9 11:37 PM
Have you ever worked with the ATF?
They did a good job with the Davidians at Waco, Texas, didn't they?
Unfortunately they weren't at Jonestown.
I just wish ATF was there when the felongoons first started in China. Those incendiary bombs would have been very useful in extermination of the unwanted goons.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:40 PM Subject: There main point of contention was that...
... the United States was going to be taken over the United Nations - in an attempt to eliminate the "Christian Way" of Life.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:41 PM Subject: Testing...
Testing... 1, 2, 3...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:47 PM Subject: Hm...
Can I edit my posts again?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:51 PM
As I was saying, General Olson and his boys would march around in the woods with their rifles and warn the good people of Michigan about the dangers of the N.W.O. - trying to take over the United States and eliminating the "Christian Way" of life.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:52 PM Subject: Is somebody angry?
Or just jealous they cannot come up with original ideas to scare the folks of China about the "big bad world"?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:54 PM Subject: Anyways...
The Dear General tried to warn the folks in Michigan about the evils of the United Nations - and their attempts to change their way of life by force.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-9 11:55 PM Subject: But...
The S.O.B. could not swear off the movement he helped found after the Oklahoma City Bombing - which he initially blamed the Japanese government for!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:01 AM Subject: So... when I look at some of the posts here at the BBS...
... it is like reading the Detroit Metro Times, News, and Free Press again.
And for the folks that would like to read up on the N W O theories out there - please look American Free Press on your search engine. You will be surprised at what is written on the subject.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:03 AM Subject: That reminds me...
... with the choices for the Democratic Party coming down to Hilary and Obama, another question is coming up in the minds of certain forumites:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:05 AM Subject: Then again, one forumite...
... or ghost of a certian forumite made their view perfectly clear:
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:05 AM Subject: Then again...
... some opinions have been already offered.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:30 AM Subject: Old habits die hard I see...
... somebody playing with the post counts again? Silly Mods, trix are for kids - and individual webhits are what advertisers look at.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:31 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by thesaurusman at 2/9/2008 10:29 AM
? the second last post in the UTT ( III ) and the last post in the UTT ( III ) , were made by what forumites ? anyone know ?
Good question... given some of the claims and counter claims about identity around here.
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-2-10 12:41 AM
trader_vic
I can't read the stuff you tossed up from the NY Times -- were they talking about me?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:47 AM Subject: Then again...
... if posts and threads did not mysterious disappear, then pms would not be so necessary.
As for responses, in the words of Will Rogers, "The art of diplomacy is the ability to say nice doggie as your reaching for your stick".
Sadly, that art seems to be lost on some...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:55 AM Subject: Does anyone know? <Cue up Chicago>
QUOTE:
Originally posted by thesaurusman at 2/9/2008 10:29 AM
? the second last post in the UTT ( III ) and the last post in the UTT ( III ) , were made by what forumites ? anyone know ?
As I was walking down the street one day
A man came up to me and asked me what the time was that was on my watch, yeah
And I said
Does anybody really know what time it is
Does anybody really care
If so I cant imagine why
Weve all got time enough to cry
And I was walking down the street one day
A pretty lady looked at me and said her diamond watch had stopped cold dead
And I said
Does anybody really know what time it is
Does anybody really care
If so I cant imagine why
Weve all got time enough to cry
And I was walking down the street one day
Being pushed and shoved by people trying to beat the clock, oh, no I just dont know
I dont know
And I said, yes I said
Background:
People runnin everywhere
Dont know where to go
Dont know where I am
Cant see past the next step
Dont have time to think past the last mile
Have no time to look around
Just run around, run around and think why
Does anybody really know what time it is
Does anybody really care
If so I cant imagine why
Weve all got time enough to die
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:05 PM Subject: Now, Time for something slightly different
Praise be for belly dancers
By SHAWN DESPRES - Japan Times - Friday, Feb. 1, 2008
Its often said that good things (and bad ones) come in threes. But anyone who has seen Tokyo-based belly dancers The Afet Collective in action is likely to insist that great things come in sevens.
Operating under the slogan Dancing for a cause, a cause for dance, the septet began working together in late 2006. All experienced solo performers, they established early on that they wanted to make Afet different from the countless Middle Eastern-inspired troupes now operating around Japan. To do so, they decided to hold their Afet-related gigs as benefit shows.
After searching for a charity they could all identify with, group founder Eshe (who goes by only one name, as do the other girls in the group) learned of the HELP (Housing in Emergency of Love and Peace) Asian Womens Shelter in Tokyo. Founded in 1986, HELP provides assistance to more than 300 Japanese and foreign women annually who are victims of abuse and sexual slavery. Organizing three Afet events in 2007, the sensuous sirens (Afet means catastrophically beautiful in Turkish) raised over ¥170,000 for HELP while dazzling crowds with a multitude of back bends and shimmies.
Eshe, along with fellow dancers Anaan, Farasha, Henna, Ozma, Suiren and Yoko, will once again show off the size of Afets collective heart this Valentines season during their second annual V-Day on Feb. 8 at Cafe Studio in Harajuku, Tokyo. The night will feature three sets of Oriental and tribal belly dancing and renowned belly-dance artist and instructor Mishaal will make a special guest appearance. DJ B Krishta will play a hip selection of world music between dances. Proceeds will be donated to HELP and the international charity V-Day, which aims to stop violence against women and girls.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 12:08 PM Subject: There is something to be said...
... for not always being on the "bleeding edge' of technology fads...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 01:24 PM Subject: Hm... Hooters in China...
... from the Red Guard Ballet to overpriced wings served by women with oversided assets.
Then again... Mao and the boys may have liked this idea - but with a more socialistic flair?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 01:30 PM Subject: Then again...
... the stereotypes about the submissive asian female has greatly been exaggerated over the years.
Thanks to folks at www madasian com for these great t-shirt ideas!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 01:37 PM Subject: WHITE MALE ASIAPHILES ARE LOSERS
Oh my God, this has got to be the NASTIEST bit I have ever seen on British Television in a long time:
youtube.com watch?v=fIORLxYUtfM&feature=related
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-2-10 07:28 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by canchin at 2008-2-10 19:19
I don't really follow it very closely since it isn't very important to any country outside of the borders of the States...unless they start another round of murdering innocents so they can steal th ...
The game and the play remain the same -- McCain must be as easily controlled by the American elite as Hillary or he will never have a chance! Of course, being only half-a-whip smarter than GWB might qualify for ready controllability.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-10 10:55 PM Subject: President Obama
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 09:29 PM Subject: Hm... has the Fast and Furious reached the streets of Hong Kong Yet?
Asia girl racers make a street killing
John Harlow, Los Angeles | January 14, 2008
AS the tachometer red-lines at 125km/h, the girl racer pulls up the handbrake and spins her Honda Civic 180 degrees into oncoming traffic shuffling out of the Universal film studio north of Hollywood.
She is screaming along to a punk band on the radio as commuters pull abruptly into the kerb, horns honking.
Cops are too smart to chase me, said this tiny veteran of a dozen illegal street races, weaving around startled families in Volvos and four-wheel-drives.
The girl, who calls herself Jackie Q, pays heavily for her adrenaline rush: thousands of dollars tricking out her little red car, which she tunes herself; a shattered skull from a sliding manoeuvre that ended in a supermarket wall; and a criminal record. She is 16 years old.
Jackie Q, the daughter of a South Korean oncologist, is a straight-A student at high school who dreams of studying medicine at Stanford University, California.
At weekends, unbeknown to her doting parents, who believe that her car obsession is safer than boys, she is a high-octane force among a new wave of young Asian women causing death and mayhem on the wide avenues and choked boulevards of Los Angeles.
In a city shaped by cars, the illegal street race is a time-honoured macho tradition. But police say girls such as Jackie Q are changing the rules. The Asian girls are definitely a new thing, said Chris Ortell, a police sergeant in east Los Angeles.
He is dealing with a 17-year-old Asian girl who raced her Ford Focus through a crowded street at almost 130km/h before striking another car and killing its teenage occupant.
That racer escaped with scratches and, as a minor, would probably be put on probation for three years, the police officer said wearily.
Street racers are causing more than 100 deaths a year in Los Angeles county, twice as many as 10 years ago, and many such deaths are being caused by teenage girls.
Jackie Q says she can win $4390 on a Friday night bet in a race, in which she will weave around rush-hour traffic, occasionally driving along pavements to avoid traffic cameras. I managed 145km/h along Sunset Boulevard, blowing off Lindsay Lohan and her paparazzi posse at 3am. My parents thought I was staying with friends, she said.
Like many young Asian women in Los Angeles, Jackie Q and her friends have been inspired by Nadine Toyoda, a Scottish-Japanese driver who was a champion street racer until she got pregnant at 17 and then went legit in public races.
Toyoda is the leader of Drifting Pretty, the USs first all-girl drift-racing crew, which includes a nurse and a mortgage broker. She is unnerved by the younger fans who tear up the streets.
This is serious - this is not playing with Barbie dolls but with lives, she said.
The Sunday Times
PHOTO: Nadine Toyoda and Sarah Nakadate
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 09:33 PM Subject: Looks like the Hippies have finally realized the truth...
February 08, 2008 - Spiegel
Neil Young Admits Music Cant Change World - MYTHS DISPELLED, DREAMS BROKEN
While in Berlin for the release of a new documentary he helped produce, music legend Neil Young shocked reporters Friday with the revelation that music cannot change the world.
Move over Bob Geldof, Bono and Sting. Madonna and Justin, dont worry, you dont need four minutes or even to worry about saving the world any more with your music. Indeed, if you believe what rock guru Neil Young said on Friday in Berlin, music cant save the world -- at all.
I think that the time when music could change the world is past, Young told reporters, according to the AP. I think it would be very naïve to think that in this day and age.
Thats really a shame, given that so many Woodstock-era musicians like Young -- and thousands before and after him -- have done their best to convince us that music could, indeed, save the world.
Young is in Berlin for the Berlinale film festival to present his new film CSNY: D¨¦j¨¤ vu, a documentary about the 2006 Freedom of Speech reunion tour of the band Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
Despite his dour prediction of musics disappointing inefficacy, Young did leave some room for hope. I think the world today is a different place, Young said, and that its time for science and physics and spirituality to make a difference in this world and to try to save the planet.
Only time will tell, however, whether, Live Math or Yoga Ins will succeed in inspiring future generations of idealists.
PHOTO: Canadian singer-songwriter Neil Young told reporters gathered at the Berlin International Film Festival that music cannot save the world.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 09:33 PM Subject: Looks like the Hippies have finally realized the truth...
February 08, 2008 - Spiegel
Neil Young Admits Music Cant Change World - MYTHS DISPELLED, DREAMS BROKEN
While in Berlin for the release of a new documentary he helped produce, music legend Neil Young shocked reporters Friday with the revelation that music cannot change the world.
Move over Bob Geldof, Bono and Sting. Madonna and Justin, dont worry, you dont need four minutes or even to worry about saving the world any more with your music. Indeed, if you believe what rock guru Neil Young said on Friday in Berlin, music cant save the world -- at all.
I think that the time when music could change the world is past, Young told reporters, according to the AP. I think it would be very naïve to think that in this day and age.
Thats really a shame, given that so many Woodstock-era musicians like Young -- and thousands before and after him -- have done their best to convince us that music could, indeed, save the world.
Young is in Berlin for the Berlinale film festival to present his new film CSNY: Deja vu, a documentary about the 2006 Freedom of Speech reunion tour of the band Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
Despite his dour prediction of musics disappointing inefficacy, Young did leave some room for hope. I think the world today is a different place, Young said, and that its time for science and physics and spirituality to make a difference in this world and to try to save the planet.
Only time will tell, however, whether, Live Math or Yoga Ins will succeed in inspiring future generations of idealists.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 09:36 PM Subject: From the Crank Pile
Now this is the type of news the militia folks in the other forums may talk about in the next few months.
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McCain Aide Is Dual Citizen of Mexico
McCain Hispanic outreach director served in cabinet of ex-President Vicente Fox
American Free Press (Issue #6, February 11, 2008)
John McCains Hispanic outreach director, Juan Hernandez, has become an issue in the Republican presidential campaign because he has served in the Mexican government, The Washington Times reports.
The week of the Florida campaign, McCain was asked about the situation but managed to tap dance his way out of answering directly.
After Mexican President Vicente Fox was elected in 2000, he named the U.S.-born dual citizen Hernandez, a professor at the University of Texas at Dallas in Richardson, to head the newly created, cabinet-level Presidential Office for Mexicans Abroad. This, in effect, made him Foxs and Mexicos American outreach director.
The influential American began doing public relations work among the Mexicans living in Texas and elsewhere in the U.S. But the situation borders on explosive when the same man, a fellow supporter of amnesty and mass immigration, assumes an equivalent position in McCains campaign.
And why does McCain need a Hispanic outreach director, unless it is to lure the Hispanic vote? The association alone trumpets again McCains favorable tilt toward the NWOs North American Union and the Super Highway from Mexico to Canada through the heart of America.
Why havent you seen this in your mainstream press? Because McCain is currently the anointed Republican, a sense reinforced with the late January endorsement by The New York Times. He will continue to be as protected as President Bush has been.
Nothing controversial affecting their own will be introduced to the public by the media, and anything uncovered by other candidates, the Internet or AFP, will be either ignored or disparaged.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 09:37 PM Subject: From the Crank Pile
Now this is the type of news the militia folks in the other forums may talk about in the next few months.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 09:52 PM Subject: Hm... if I was in the mood to start a conspircy theory...
... fan the flames in the other threads, then maybe I would propose that:
There may be a contest between Mexico/Latin America and P.R. China for the control of the U.S.A. immigration policies and foreign visa policies. As it stands their is a bit of a Chinese influence on Clinton (via Hsu and Chung) and a bit of Mexican influence on McCain (via Hernandez).
Then again, this is already out in the open with the Wall Street Journal:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 10:10 PM Subject: Interesting bit of history has now come to light...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 11:35 PM Subject: Another Bad Night in Buffalo...
As someone that is a hockey fan - stories like this can scare the Hell out of me.
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Zedniks neck cut deep by skate
Panthers winger hospitalized after accidental collision
BUFFALO, N.Y. - February 10, 2008 AP -- Florida Panthers forward Richard Zednik underwent surgery to close a deep gash on the right side of his neck and was in stable condition Sunday night after he was cut by a teammates skate during a game.
The surgery was successful and hes resting comfortably in the hospital, Panthers spokesman Brian Goldman said.
Blood gushed from Zedniks neck after he was hurt midway through the third period of Buffalos 5-3 victory, creating a frightening moment that delayed the game for about 15 minutes. There was also a brief discussion about postponing the game altogether.
Zednik was behind the play and skating into the right corner of the Sabres zone, when teammate Olli Jokinen was upended by Sabres forward Clarke MacArthur. Jokinen fell head-first to the ice, and his right leg flew up and struck Zednik directly on the side of the neck.
Clutching his neck, Zednik raced to the Florida bench, leaving a long trail of blood. When he arrived, he nearly fell into the arms of a team trainer, who quickly applied a towel to the cut. Zednik was then helped off the ice by the trainer and teammate Jassen Cullimore, and escorted to the Panthers dressing room.
We shouldnt have finished the game, Jokinen said. I saw the replay, that it was my skate that hit him in the throat. I think we were all in shock. Ive never seen anything like that. There are bigger things than (finishing the game). It was terrifying.
I didnt think anyone on our team was thinking hockey out there after an injury like that. If it was my call, I would have gone to the hospital with him.
Panthers spokesman Justin Copertino said Zednik was transported by ambulance to Buffalo General Hospital. Copertino said the team was making arrangements to have Zedniks wife, Jessica, fly from South Florida to Buffalo by a charter flight Sunday night.
The team was scheduled to return to Miami, but assistant general manager Randy Sexton and assistant trainer Dave Zenobi planned to stay behind with Zednik, Copertino said.
Zedniks injury left players and coaches on both benches stunned, and a silent hush fell over the crowd at HSBC Arena.
NHL vice president Colin Campbell consulted with Sabres general manager Darcy Regier and referee Bill McCreary in a tunnel after Zednik was loaded into an ambulance. Campbell, who was not available for comment, attended the game in part because his son, Gregory, plays for the Panthers.
In a statement, the NHL said that Campbell talked to commissioner Gary Bettman and decided to continue the game after knowing that Zednik was stable, that trainers had stopped the bleeding, and that the teams were willing to go on.
The league said: The thoughts and prayers of the NHL family are with Richard Zednik, his loved ones, his teammates and the Florida Panthers organization.
I can fully understand if they wanted to cancel the whole game, Sabres coach Lindy Ruff said. It was pretty solemn. There wasnt a lot being said (on the bench). There was just more concern for Richard than anything else.
When you see something like that, it isnt about playing anymore. But I said, Were going to finish the game and its going to be what its going to be.
As crews scraped the blood from the ice and the surface was cleaned by Zambonis during the extended delay, the public address announcer said: Richard Zednik is in stable condition and on his way to a Buffalo hospital.
The crowd stood in applause during the announcement.
Zedniks injury was eerily reminiscent of an injury sustained by Sabres goaltender Clint Malarchuk about 19 years ago at Buffalos Memorial Auditorium. On March 22, 1989, Malarchuk severed his jugular vein when St. Louis Blues forward Steve Tuttle was upended while skating toward the crease, slicing Malarchuk with a skate.
Malarchuk required over 300 stitches but spent only one night in the hospital, returning to practice after four days. On April 2, he played the final five minutes in the season finale, less than two weeks after his injury.
Panthers defenseman Steve Montador recalled seeing Zednik in a state of shock as he got to the bench.
He looked pale, he was obviously standing and to a degree, coherent. But he didnt look as focused as you or I right now. He was staring at nothing, Montador said. Thats a pretty brave guy to realize whats going on: Grab your neck and get off the ice.
Zednik has 15 goals and 11 assists this season.
It was the second serious injury caused by a skate this weekend.
On Saturday, NHL linesman Pat Dapuzzo needed dozens of stitches to close a cut on his face after he was hit by the skate of Philadelphia Flyers forward Steve Downie in a game against the New York Rangers.
Dapuzzo, scheduled to retire at the end of the season, didnt return after the second-period injury.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-11 11:35 PM Subject: Another Bad Night in Buffalo...
As someone that is a hockey fan - stories like this can scare the Hell out of me.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 03:41 AM Subject: A pretty funny story about Holidays and Emergecnies...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 03:47 AM Subject: Either I am getting older or...
... Slayer has sold out to the MAN!
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Slayer Wins Grammy
Chad Bowar - About com Guide to Heavy Metal - February 12, 2007
Theres not a lot for metal fans at the Grammys. The one award is given before the televised portion of the show. This year metal legends Slayer took the award for Best Metal Performance for the song Eyes Of The Insane from their album Christ Illusion. It is Slayers first Grammy, and second nomination. Other nominees in the category included Lamb of God, Mastodon, Ministry and Stone Sour.
Slayer is currently headlining a North American tour and did not attend the Grammys presentation. Vocalist/bassist Tom Araya had this to say about the win from his hotel room in Columbus, Ohio: Jeff (Hanneman) and I put a lot into Eyes of the Insane so were thrilled that the Grammy voters took the time to listen to it, and then vote for it. Were out here on the road and were all really, really happy.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 03:55 AM Subject: Interesting Article out of Pravda...
... it is interesting to see a dead religion talk about an old religion.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 04:21 AM Subject: And speaking of fanatics and their attitudes...
... a very funny article out of Pravda about the lovely folks at PETA.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 04:31 AM Subject: Hm... looks like the numbers are getting played with again...
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Author: cyberspook Time: 2008-2-12 07:25 AM
feed the man meat
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 09:10 PM Subject: As long as it is lean and juicy!
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
cyberspook at 2/11/2008 05:25 PM
feed the man meat
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-12 11:10 PM Subject: Time to toss a bone to our more conspricy minded forumites...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 12:39 AM Subject: 10,000 Down...
... 6,000 to go for the VIP...
.... or 8,000 and 8,000 ...
.... regardless, as Chris Rock says:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 01:08 AM Subject: Now this article was a bit troubling...
... given that issues with too much UV and skin cancer has been around for years...
Folks, it does not matter about your ethnic origins - too much sun is too much sun!
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Natasha Hughes - Sydney Morning Herald - February, 11, 2008
A TV ad featuring 26-year-old melanoma victim Clare Oliver began screening nationally this week. Its like shes speaking from beyond the grave and it is undeniably powerful. But will it convince people to shun the tan as the Cancer Council hopes it will? Will it make them see that no tan is worth dying for?
Ms Olivers death has already triggered new laws governing the solarium industry in Victoria: fair-skinned people and anyone under 16 cant use sunbeds. South Australia last week went further, banning anyone under 18. A spokesman for the Australian Solarium Association said sunbed usage had dropped considerably since Clare Olivers death (the one in my main street closed down two months ago, despite its added extra of XXX waxing for both sexes) but said that there was still a market for them. The Cancer Council says it also hopes Ms Olivers message will also influence people considering a natural suntan.
Confession time: have you got burnt this summer? Has Ms Olivers story influenced your tanning habits? Has her early death made you think twice about baking at the beach or leaving the hat at home?
And do you think young people will take any notice of the ad? The latest data shows theres been a 45% drop in the number of teenagers deliberately tanning over the past three years but none of them must go to my beach.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 01:49 AM Subject: Rather ugly article out of the CBC...
... apparently if is "American", it has to be bad.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 05:54 AM Subject: Regionalism - where is thy sting?
Now this is something that can kill any group effort to bring an a land on its feet - regionalism.
Reminds me of some of the complaints from Chinese Americans trying to find teaching jobs in China, or Japanese Americans in Japan, etc. etc. etc.
What is the old Vulcan proverb - do fear the stranger, but your neighbor?
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Hate thy neighbour: a demonic uhuru
Binyavanga Wainaina: CONTINENTAL DRIFT
11 February 2008 03:33 - Mail & Guardian (South Africa)
Now, word in Dar es Salaam has it that some Tanzanians are kind of enjoying Kenyas present plight. Of course this shall not be said nakedly. Tanzanians do not just speak nakedly. Words are well dressed. Kind eyes will open in concern and ask you: Ohhhh ndugu [brother], how bad things are for you ¡ tell me, tell me more of the terrible things happening in your country. Argh ... shame ¡ God will provide ¡
Our tourists are all over Zanzibar. Their port, Dar es Salaam, can start to take Mombasas business.
Things have not been good for Kenyans in Tanzania for years now. We are rude. Instead of saying, I humbly ask you to bring me a cup of tea, we say Bring tea.
Then there is all this work work work business. Working Working Working ¡ no time for being decent and sharing and communing in a brotherly way. Last year Tanzanians started calling Kenyans Nyangau -- beasts.
The government started to deport Kenyans with extreme malice. Of course, Kenyans were not innocent: with their dynamism came crime, cons and tricks.
Anti-Kenyanness has become a campaign platform, I am told.
Of course, the strange thing about all this is that white investors get a free pass. Even right-wing Afrikaners. White people are crazy anyway, people nod appreciatively. They are bringing development. But Kenyan investors are stealing our wealth.
It is disturbing to see people being productive, dynamic and generally mannerless when they resemble you: you have to assume there is something rotten in their hearts. Or ... maybe, just maybe, there is something to learn from them?
It must be said too: people often become productive because they have been through something terrible, have been hoisted out of their past by war, competition or colonial land evictions. In much of early colonial Africa, those who went to school first were often the poorest, the orphans and the alienated. Those who had nothing to lose by leaving their moral universe.
Last year I lost my temper in Arusha, after trying repeatedly to find out, from my tour guide, which bus I was supposed to enter. I had been in planes for more than 20 hours, and was being given a certain kind of runaround. It was passive-aggressive malicious goodygoodyness at its worst: as white guests were lovingly led to their various premises, a glaze would come over the mans eyes whenever I would approach him, in broken and studiously polite Kiswahili, for assistance. He would head off in a different direction, as if he had something of international importance to do with his clipboard. I learnt that day that this is deliberate; a veil of vagueness is one way resentfulness is manifested.
A Tanzanian intellectual once told us that Julius Nyerere, in his kindly manner, came to do all the thinking for the nation. The special kind of oppression in that country was one where you were all assured stability -- if you did what Mwalimu (teacher) said. But like most students, you dozed and avoided your homework, all the time convinced that teacher would rescue you from yourself.
Kenyans are not immune to this. Nor are South Africans. In Kenya, in Eastlands, the highly productive Somali community is resented. It is said this is because the Somali behave like this, or like that. It is never said that it is because the Somali have created wealth in Eastlands. This idea plays out all over the continent in one way or another.
Xenophobia has come to mean demonising the dynamic: their behaviour is demonic simply because it shows you up.
In countries that have fathers-of-nations and such, it becomes the fathers job to get his little children into the school soccer team. The process is simple: the head of the Parents Association, to get more votes, speaks to fathers and tells them that those foreign students import their soccer boots from Dubai, and have an added advantage because of this.
Parents are quick to see this train of thought, and propose, somewhat loudly to the headmistress, that these children be removed from the soccer team. The headmistress suggests that everybody get boots from Dubai, sponsored by the parents of the foreigners. This idea is greeted enthusiastically.
But the next year, it is Dubai Woollen Socks, and as the team starts to win, the temperature of possibilities rises. The foreign parents meet and decide to buy the headmistress a new bicycle. The foreigners are only marginally wealthier than the locals and are feeling the pressure.
After four years (two days after the PTA elections), a year after the school soccer team -- with seven foreign players in the first eleven -- wins the provincial soccer tournament, the foreign kids are hounded out of the team for their dishonesty. Humph! Did they think they could just bribe us! We have values in this community!
And this year, the headmistress, who angled for a car and did not get one, is found to be unsupportive.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 10:19 AM Subject: #212 - #213
The Vulcan Proverb is supposed to read: Do not fear the stranger, but your neighbor.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 10:21 AM Subject: Remember kiddies, when dealing with post delays...
... make sure to spell and grammar check. Also remember to keep track of where you posted, to avoid double posting.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-13 10:21 AM Subject: Now this explains a lot...
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Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-13 09:23 PM
where you get that much pics, by the way.
Saj
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-13 09:27 PM Subject: # 213
and do you manage to display the pic in the top. Plz tell me too.
Saj
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 02:36 AM Subject: <chuckle>
Do you mean something like this, saj2go?
Hm... do you think the politburo will put up with any antics coming out of the Middle East directed to P.R. China? Methinks not. The alligence of P.R. China citizens are to Beijing, and Beijing alone. The imans in Mecca and Tehran will learn that in time that P.R. China is not the Soviet Union or the United States in that matter.
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Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-14 02:46 AM
QUOTE:
<chuckle>
Do you mean something like this, saj2go?
Hm... do you think the politburo will put up with any antics coming out of the Middle East directed to P.R. China? Methinks not. The alligence of P.R. China citizens are to Beijing, and Beijing alone. The imans in Mecca and Tehran will learn that in time that P.R. China is not the Soviet Union or the United States in that matter.
oooee you are too injured, still bleeding
What is that, that you said not in Russia and USA, what is the comon thing in both
In america, life is unfair:lol as your president said:lol
This is not the case in Russia. There the life is fair enough
And also in China
The alligence of citizens of any country is only for the country of their residence.
man, have some patients in yourself. Think cool and go far.:lol
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 02:51 AM Subject: <laughter>
Says the forumite that has yet to comment on the Archbishop of English calling for Sharia Law in England thread.
Like I said, P.R. China is not like the Soviet Union, United States, or Europe for that matter - it will not broach any talk of installing foreign laws above the CCP or PLA.
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-14 02:54 AM
QUOTE:
<laughter>
Says the forumite that has yet to comment on the Archbishop of English calling for Sharia Law in England thread.
Like I said, P.R. China is not like the Soviet Union, United States, or Europe for that matter - it will not broach any talk of installing foreign laws above the CCP or PLA.
Thats ok. Actually we do not have to do with China. As China is a very good friend of Pakistan and many other Muslims countries. So we do not have to re-color China. And I am sure, we will never have to.
But this is not the case in UK and US. So need to force Sharia law there
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-14 03:01 AM
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-14 03:03 AM
QUOTE:
man, have some patients in yourself. Think cool and go far.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 03:16 AM Subject: The check is in the mail...
... and my mailbox is still empty.
Like Chris Rock says - there is no sex in the champange room.
Then again it is a chou's life.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 10:36 AM Subject: And I do believe I have found the origin...
... for those red uniforms for the Olympic Hostesses. Make a person wonder if the hostesses are going to be packing heat and performing extra security at the games.
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Author: wayves Time: 2008-2-14 11:04 AM
I don't know about you, but there's something about a woman in uniform who's packing heat that gets MY attention...
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-14 04:37 PM
TV, you still not answer the question. How did you manange to add pic in the middle of the post.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 09:49 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by saj2go at 2/14/2008 02:37 AM
TV, you still not answer the question. How did you manange to add pic in the middle of the post.
To paraphrase the old Calgon Commerical: "Ancient Laowai Secret"
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 10:04 PM Subject: Looks like my thread about Archbishop of the Church of England...
... got the chop.
Curious, was it because the China Daily is kowtowing to the folks in Mecca?
Or... is it because certain Mods and/or Forumites could not respond to something that could not be defended? <laughter>
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 10:52 PM Subject: Ouch! Pile of News
Ladies and Gentlemen,
There is something for getting half up front and half at the end of a job.
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Stranded Chinese Acrobats Spend Night in Texas Homeless Shelter
AP - Wednesday, February 13, 2008
DALLAS ¡ª A team of 16 young Chinese acrobats arrived here ready to dazzle Americans with their backflips, cartwheels and human pyramids, but their U.S. tour began with two nights at a homeless shelter.
A mysterious circus promoter from Wisconsin failed to meet the performers when they arrived Monday at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. Instead, he called Bill Thompson, executive director of the Union Gospel Mission homeless shelter.
The promoter, who gave only his first name, Gary, told Thompson he had run out of money and needed someone to pick up the acrobats, who range in age from 13 to 20.
He sounded desperate, no doubt, Thompson said. From what I know, it seems to be poor planning more than anything else.
Thompson and other shelter workers arrived at the airport in three vans and no clue how to find the troupe. Thompson finally found a group of 18 people who fit the bill ¡ª 16 acrobats and two adults ¡ª and broke through the language barrier by saying the one word we could all agree on: acrobat.
The Shanghai-based Guanhua Acrobatic team spent two nights at the mission, but first, Thompson took them to a McDonalds. They all ordered the No. 9: grilled chicken, Thompson said.
The troupe put on an impromptu show for reporters Wednesday, tossing straw hats like boomerangs and performing acrobatic moves with ease. They also seemed remarkably sanguine about their situation, saying it was status quo for circus performers.
The acrobats, who planned a 10-month U.S. tour, said through a translator that they were looking forward to possible performances in the Dallas area, Chicago, Wisconsin and Las Vegas.
I have a confidence we can find a tour in the U.S., said Wenbin Gao, one of the adults traveling with the acrobats. Were used to it. Were used to waiting.
Contacted by The Associated Press, the circus promoter refused to give his last name during a telephone interview. He called the mistake a little scheduling snafu, saying trailers he purchased for the group never arrived in Texas because of recent snowstorms in the Midwest.
The promoter said he has lined up performances for the troupe, but refused to give specifics.
Nobody is trying to do anything shifty, he said. Im trying to do something nice, not something dastardly. Its already fixed.
By Wednesday afternoon, the promoter said he arranged for the group to stay at a ranch near Dallas owned by another performer. Thompson confirmed they had left.
They are going to another performers place and they are warm and getting fed, the promoter said. Were going to get them performing and get them happy.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 11:42 PM Subject: Always...
... it time to drop a couple of posts of Zeta Jones... for the those who are watching in the peanut gallery.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-14 11:44 PM Subject: For those folks that like to do stupid promotions for their books...
... make sure to tape up the naughty bits.
Can we all say... silcone?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 12:08 AM Subject: Who Ya Gonna Call?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 12:10 AM Subject: <cue Ray Parker Jrs One Hit Wonder>
GHOSTBUSTERS
If theres something strange
in your neighborhood
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
If theres something weird
and it dont look good
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
I aint afraid of no ghosts
I aint afraid of no ghosts
If youre seeing things
running through your head
Who can ya call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
An invisible man
sleeping in your bed
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
I aint afraid of no ghosts
I aint afraid of no ghosts
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
If ya all alone
pick up the phone
and call
GHOSTBUSTERS
I aint afraid of no ghosts
I here it likes the ghost
I aint afraid of no ghost
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
If youve had a dose of a
freaky ghost baby
Ya better call
GHOSTBUSTERS
Lemme tell ya something
Bustin makes me feel good!
I aint afraid of no ghosts
I aint afraid of no ghosts
Dont get caught alone no no
GHOSTBUSTERS
When it comes through your door
Unless you just want some more
I think you better call
GHOSTBUSTERS
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
I think you better call
GHOSTBUSTERS
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
I cant hear you
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
Louder
GHOSTBUSTERS
Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
Who can ya call?
GHOSTBUSTERS
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 12:19 AM Subject: Looks like this Movie is Toast...
A CHINESE GHOST STORY
AKA: N/A
Year: 1987 Reviewer: Pat King - Dragons Den UK
Tsui Hark remembered a film from his childhood that used to scare him. The name of this film was The Enchanting Shadow made in 1960, which was adapted from a story by Pu Sung Ling (who also wrote the original story to King Hus A Touch of Zen). In 1987 he would film a remake entitled A Chinese Ghost Story handing the directorial reigns to Ching Siu Tung who had previously directed the landmark Duel to Death. It is widely recognised however that as Tsui was always on set he had in fact directed a number of sequences himself making this more of a collaboration between the two maestros. It has also been speculated that this is the film where Tsui famously locked his cast and crew in a studio for three days and three nights until a sequence was finished.
Ling Choi San (Leslie Cheung) is a tax collector, who when he reaches an inn to collect he finds than all the ink has run in his account book due to the rain he has had to travel in. As he has no legible accounts the inn keeper refuses to pay. As he has no money he spends the night in the famously haunted Lan Ro Temple. It is here he first encounters the eccentric nomadic swordsman Yin Chek Hsia (Wu Ma), who can?t live in the world of mortals so he chooses to live in the world of ghosts. It is here that Ling become inexplicably drawn to the bewitching singing of Lip Siu Sin (Joey Wong). Ling becomes enchanted by her oblivious to the reality that she is in fact a ghost who lures young men so that Old Dame (Lau Siu Ming), thousand year old tree demon, can suck out their Yang energy, thus leaving a corpse shrivelled like a sultana. Lip however becomes equally besotted with Ling and attempts to hide him from the Old Dame. But Ling and Lips love for one another is doomed as Lip is betrothed to the Lord of the Black Mountain, and following a battle with Old Dame, Swordsman Yin takes pity on Lip and agrees to help Ling take her ashes back to be buried in her home village so she can re-incarnate. Despite their attempts she is sucked into the netherworld and they must follow to save her.
The battle in the netherworld (The sequence believed to be the one where Tsui locked his cast and crew in a studio until it was finished) wasnt originally in the script but Tsui thought the film needed a big action finale. However by the time filming started for this sequence, the budget had already been exhausted. In order to disguise the lack of funds Tsui filled a sound stage full of smoke to hide the non-existent sets. The result was highly effective and illustrates how Hong Kong film makers can make up for a lack of funds through sheer imagination. Sadly this now seems to be a dying trait in an industry that appears to be losing this creativity under the ever increasing budgets.
A Chinese Ghost Story is a landmark in Hong Kong film history. It is as much a love story as it is an action/horror film and would define the visual formula for sequential wuxia films. It even has a few pauses for a hint of comedy but nothing intrusive. Fresh and original (despite being a remake), this film has not dated and still remains just as fresh today. There are great performances all round and the casting of Wu Ma as Swordsman Yin is inspired. It also has a suitably haunting soundtrack.
Any fan of wuxia films MUST see A Chinese Ghost Story. I can not give a higher recommendation for this veritable classic. It deserves every bit of praise it has received over the years.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 01:10 AM Subject: Now here is a real ghost story - zombots
Now this is a real issue - zombie bots - from China to America to Europe, these nasty little ghouls are causing real trouble.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:10 AM Subject: Ghosts...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:10 AM Subject: Ghouls...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:11 AM Subject: Banshees...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:11 AM Subject: Phantoms...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:12 AM Subject: Spirits...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:15 AM Subject: <snort>
Only thing to be afraid of is this lady with the Chinese Ghost Recon.
She will make you spirit number one with a bullet!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 02:38 AM Subject: Now here is a real ghost story should be told...
... scare naive people about the issues with snakeheads and travelling illegally!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 03:11 AM Subject: Looks like Jack Black is willing to piss off...
... another enthic community.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 03:25 AM Subject: But back to zombies...
... it looks like George Romero is back, and hopefully this movie is on par with his original work:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 06:39 AM Subject: More than a few forumites have wondered...
... where I developed a sense for things political - seeing that I am "not a typical American".
Well boys and girls, when you come from the Detroit area, you get schooled early about politics.
Please observe this article from the Detroit Metro Times, and very interesting professor from Wayne State University.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 06:49 AM Subject: This ought to be interesting...
... nothing better than a real life scenario to test out the ABM systems. Will anyone file a formal protest at this action?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 07:17 AM Subject: Some people have wondered by lack of liberal voices...
... out of New York about the "plight" of illegal immigrants. Well, after one of their own got murdered and then strung up by a pissant looking for a quick score...
In the words of DILBERT HARRIS from WRIF - "Bye bye you son of bytch!"
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Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-15 10:47 AM Subject: Reply #237 tradervic's post
Talking about making films...
What's your opinion about the recent decision by Stefan Playmountain?
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( these female ghosts are too scary. You should have put some parental warnings.)
Author: emucentral Time: 2008-2-15 05:34 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2008-2-15 12:47
What's your opinion about the recent decision by Stefan Playmountain?
You're such a card, Andy.
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-15 06:53 PM
Looks like my thread about Archbishop of the Church of England...
... got the chop.
Curious, was it because the China Daily is kowtowing to the folks in Mecca?
Or... is it because certain Mods and/or Forumites could not respond to something that could not be defended? <laughter>
Oooee, so you are not receiving audiance there
To bad
actually no one is that free like you
Ppl have a lot of things to do, rather than keep visiting your threads:lol
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-15 06:57 PM
QUOTE:
This ought to be interesting...
... nothing better than a real life scenario to test out the ABM systems. Will anyone file a formal protest at this action?
Where Japanese are not able to protest for killing of hundred of thousands of their citizenz even after 60 years and where the Iraqis , Afghanisees are not able to do so. how the other would be
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-15 07:32 PM
Well, it looks like chairman is impersonating wachao and myself...
Will the madness never end?
This is what the fool wrote elsewhere(as warmandfuzzy) after the deed:
Why do they do this to you 2 only ?
Why do all who write against you or him get deleted or banned ?
Is it fair that anyone who speaks against both of you is banned or deleted ?
Is it fair that anyone who does not agree with you or who points out these unfair tactics has his IP banned ?
Could any of this be the reason you nhave these troubles ?
Could the missing 25 writers be connected to any of this ?
Could your attacks and his attacks on innocent forumites be the reason ?
Lastly, your assoxitae deleted 6 posts against him, just this afternoon, less than an hour ago.
Could control of the forum, by you and him, be the connection ?
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Author: wchao37 Time: 2008-2-15 07:44 PM Subject: It is no accident
The connection between TV and chairman cannot be more obvious.
They are from the same agency.
He just sent me another threatening P.M.
This is criminal behavior.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 09:13 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/15/2008 05:32 AM
Well, it looks like chairman is impersonating wachao and myself...
Will the madness never end?
This is what the fool wrote elsewhere(as warmandfuzzy) after the deed:
Why do they do this to you 2 only ?
Why do all who write against you or him get deleted or banned ?
Is it fair that anyone who speaks against both of you is banned or deleted ?
Is it fair that anyone who does not agree with you or who points out these unfair tactics has his IP banned ?
Could any of this be the reason you nhave these troubles ?
Could the missing 25 writers be connected to any of this ?
Could your attacks and his attacks on innocent forumites be the reason ?
Lastly, your assoxitae deleted 6 posts against him, just this afternoon, less than an hour ago.
Could control of the forum, by you and him, be the connection ?
<chuckle> Wowzers my dear fellow - who says it is only the chairman that is gunning for the Dear Doctor (and in the process, you)?
No, there are more characters from the Dear Doctor's long and checkered past at work here, and they are a going to be a lot harder to nail down than the chairman. One can one pull stupid computer tricks outside mainland China for so long before somebody at the Foreign Ministry gets an earful from a local embassy or two.
So, Tally Ho!
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-15 09:19 PM
You are being either naive or daft, which is it?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 09:22 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/15/2008 07:19 AM
You are being either naive or daft, which is it?
Chou to your Jing!
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-15 09:27 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-2-15 21:22
Chou to your Jing!
Read what was written by "warmandfuzzy" (as if the name is not clue enough)
After first posting and pming as vvovvzers...note the double v...and there are other derivations being used...
You can continue to defend and prop up these tired threads or move on...
I'm trying to move on.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 09:31 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/15/2008 07:27 AM
So it is daft then!
Read what was written by "warmandfuzzy" (as if the name is not clue enough)
After first posting and pming as vvovvzers...note the double v...and there are other derivations being used...
You can continue to defend and prop up these tired threads or move on...
I'm trying to move on.
<chuckle> Who says I do it to defend?
And I cannot help it if the threads I post in seem to get more responses and webhits - tired old themes only seem to attract an ever dropping list of forumites.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-15 09:48 PM Subject: Speaking of the old school...
... looks like the 2-D Side Scroller, Street Fighter is coming back for another round of console/coin-op action.
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PHOTO: Models wearing costumes of Street Fighter IV video game characters pose for visitors at Amusement Expo 2008 in Chiba, east of Tokyo, on February 15, 2008. Video game developer Capcom Co Ltd, which has brought out a new version to coincide with the 20th anniversary of the original Street Fighters debut, says it hopes to draw back old fans of the game and hopefully their kids as well. (Reuters)
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Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-16 02:38 AM
QUOTE:
It is no accident
The connection between TV and chairman cannot be more obvious.
They are from the same agency.
He just sent me another threatening P.M.
This is criminal behavior
Don't worry, those who does possess the power to act, rely on threatning like things.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 02:49 AM Subject: <Uncontrolled Laughter>
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wchao37 at 2/15/2008 05:44 AM
The connection between TV and chairman cannot be more obvious.
They are from the same agency.
He just sent me another threatening P.M.
This is criminal behavior.
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
saj2go at 2/15/2008 12:38 PM
Don't worry, those who does possess the power to act, rely on threatning like things.
What next, is someone going to say I have mod like powers?!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:00 AM Subject: Hm... looks like someone abadoned their pet...
Living around the Great Lakes area, this story has a distinct zerba mussels smell to it...
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Stunning pictures of the North American Wood Duck who ended up in a grimy Birmingham canal
London Daily Mail - 15th February 2008
A striking Wood Duck normally found in North America has been found in a Birmingham canal.
The distinctive bird, with its multi-coloured iridescent plumage and red eyes, has been spotted in recent weeks in the waterways of Birmingham and Worcester.
The species normally prefers wooded swamps, shallow lakes, marshes or ponds in eastern North America, the west coast of the United States and western Mexico.
Bird experts admit they are baffled as to how the Wood Duck ended up in Englands Midlands.
Spokesperson for the RSPB, Andrew Waters, said: Who knows how this fantastic bird has ended up in the Birmingham canal.
You will see them in America but it is very very unusual to see them in this county.
Its glossy green head, red and white bill and stripy body makes it one of the worlds most beautiful birds so get out into the fresh air and see if you can spot this stunning duck, as well as our native wildlife in the heart of Birmingham.
You do get birds coming across from America but it depends on weather patterns and it is a very long way to travel.
It is unlikely that it travelled all that way but if it had its a remarkable achievement.
Because the Wood Duck is so beautiful people in this country like to keep them in collections so maybe this little fella has escaped and the canal was the first bit of water he found.
There will be plenty of food for him around the canal so I imagine he is quite happy for the time being.
Wood Ducks, also known as Carolina Ducks, are one of the only species to perch or nest in trees and their heads bob back and forth when swimming which make them easy to spot.
Small feral populations of the Wood Duck have temporarily been established in this country in the past but are not considered to be self-sustaining in the fashion of the closely related Mandarin Duck.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:06 AM Subject: Editted for Content...
... Viewer Discretation is advised...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:13 AM Subject: And people wonder why forums get the chop....
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:19 AM Subject: If anybody wants to know who is part of the Tri-Lats, just ask!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:26 AM Subject: Looks like there is going to be shuffling of the chairs at the UN.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:32 AM Subject: And even more reshuffling...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:35 AM Subject: My take on the reshuffling...
... the real ghosts are coming back to haunt the world. The ghosts of nearly a hundred years past from that first global sized conflict known as World War I.
It took nearly 100 hundred years for those fateful decisions to come back... but now those ghosts need to be confronted - lest our decisions come back to haunt our great grandchildren 100 years from now.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 03:53 AM Subject: On the lighter side of the news...
... it looks like the German Bunny man has become a movie star.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 04:02 AM Subject: October 2nd cannot get here fast enough...
... because some other city can put up with the B.S. that comes with the Olympics.
Cripes if Chicago gets the bid - most likely Chinatown property prices are going to go nuts.
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Chicago Olympic chairman may have broken rules
Philip Hersh - CHICAGO TRIBUNE - February 15, 2008
Chicago 2016 Chairman Patrick Ryan may have violated bid city rules when he met with an International Olympic Committee member during a recent trip to the Middle East.
Ryan traveled to Qatar with Northwestern University President Henry Bienen to discuss plans for the Northwestern branch campus to open on the outskirts of the Qatari capital, Doha. Ryan and Bienen also went to Kuwait, where they met IOC member Sheikh Ahmad Al-Fahad Al-Sabah, former OPEC chairman.
Article 11 of the IOCs rules of conduct applicable to all cities wishing to organize the Olympic Games states: There shall be no visits by IOC members to the cities, nor by the cities to IOC members.
Ryan, Bienen and Robert Fasulo, the U.S. Olympic Committee international relations chief, met Feb. 5 with Sheikh Ahmad.
Japans Kyodo news agency first reported the meeting Thursday, with a story headlined Chicago seen to violate ethics code on Olympics bids.
Chicago 2016 spokesman Patrick Sandusky said the meetings purpose was to promote the new Northwestern campus in Doha, which also is a 2016 bid city. Ryan is chair of the Northwestern Board of Trustees.
Asked if the meeting with Sheikh Ahmad was pushing the envelope of the rules, Sandusky said, Not from our end.
Sandusky said Ryan went to Kuwait also to do business for Aon Corp., of which he is executive chairman.
We are aware of the meeting from media inquiries and are not able to comment further, IOC Communications Director Giselle Davies said Thursday.
There is a lack of clarity in Article 11 about how bid cities must handle trips by any of their officials to places where they can come in contact with IOC members, who select Olympic host cities.
USOC spokesman Darryl Seibel said Fasulo was in Kuwait for a meeting with the Olympic Council of Asia and the Afghanistan Olympic Committee.
We know that Chicago is respecting the rules, Seibel said.
Chicago is among seven bidders for the 2016 summer Games. The IOC will choose the host city Oct. 2, 2009.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 04:07 AM Subject: Is it me, or hasn't the AquaCar idea died a few times already?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 04:25 AM Subject: For all the troubles in the world, it is nice to see...
... the folks around the world team up for the International Space Station.
Who knows - if the politburo is in the mood - you might see regular stops by Chinese Astronauts to the ISS in the next few years. 
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Spacewalkers to Install Columbus Experiments
NASA - February 15, 2008
STS-122 Mission Specialists Rex Walheim and Stanley Love exited the International Space Stations Quest airlock and began the third spacewalk of the mission at 8:07 a.m. EST Friday.
During the spacewalk, Walheim and Love are installing two payloads on Columbus exterior: SOLAR, an observatory to monitor the sun; and the European Technology Exposure Facility that will carry nine experiments requiring exposure to the space environment.
The STS-122 and Expedition 16 crews also are spending time outfitting racks and systems inside the European Space Agencys Columbus laboratory, preparing the module for the scientific work ahead of it.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 04:32 AM Subject: Hm... Looks the Fair Game List just got larger...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 07:50 AM Subject: Looks like there is going to be a slight pause...
... in the computer business - cause it looks like too many companies are depending on too few suppliers again.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 07:58 AM Subject: Now here is an idea that could be seen as a Tri-Lat Scheme...
... if it was about 10 years ago.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 08:38 AM Subject: Finally, the first honest opinion about the Olympics...
... just let the players play!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 09:10 AM Subject: Given some of the activity on this BBS, maybe this t-shirt could be given out
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 09:12 AM Subject: Hm... It looks like someone is in snit...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 09:16 AM Subject: Nice Photos Then...
The finals of the 33rd International Miss Bikini Contest were held in Humen, China on Nov. 12, 2006.
Contestants from 58 countries gathered here to compete for the championship of beauty.
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Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-16 03:25 PM Subject: And the madness continues!!!
Here we have a perfect example of how "chairman" operates.
Here he uses no less than 5 avatars to attack members of this forum (card-holder, warmandfuzzy, the-scud, iamontopofu, and betrayed)
We of course have seen the damage betrayed caused to the forum.
And warmandfuzzy was here yesterday impersonating wchao and myself.
And today card-holder has been rigging the most popular poll category by posting countless mushroom pictures.
All "chairman" ghosts...
When will the madness end, when will be free of this sick and twisted "chairman"?
PS
And unbelievably this thread appears on the home page and card-holder as a star participant
The thread is deleted but still appears on the front page?
Is this a software or modware glitch?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:11 PM Subject: <laughter> Somebody taking a play out of my book?
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/16/2008 01:25 AM
Here we have a perfect example of how "chairman" operates.
Here he uses no less than 5 avatars to attack members of this forum (card-holder, warmandfuzzy, the-scud, iamontopofu, and betrayed)
We of course have seen the damage betrayed caused to the forum.
And warmandfuzzy was here yesterday impersonating wchao and myself.
And today card-holder has been rigging the most popular poll category by posting countless mushroom pictures.
All "chairman" ghosts...
When will the madness end, when will be free of this sick and twisted "chairman"?
PS
And unbelievably this thread appears on the home page and card-holder as a star participant
The thread is deleted but still appears on the front page?
Is this a software or modware glitch?
Looks like someone is taking a play out of my book about thread building. Looks like I will have to step up my efforts on a couple of my threads. Pjtran did cite some very interesting examples to peruse and use.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:26 PM Subject: Hm... I have a few photos that would not fit the cheerleader thread...
... looks like I will post them here instead.
Because it looks like there is a throwdown on thread building.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:27 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:28 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-16 11:28 PM
she's got four arms
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:30 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:30 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:31 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:32 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:33 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:34 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:34 PM Subject: More Dance Photos...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:35 PM Subject: One Funny Clip...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:39 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
zglobal at 2/16/2008 09:28 AM
she's got four arms
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:46 PM Subject: I have a few "Booth Babes" to share...
This was from a Shanghai Real Estate Show...
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Author: satsu_jin Time: 2008-2-16 11:46 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-17 00:33
Tendo Shoko, author of the book 'Yakuza Moon' and daughter of a Yakuza. I didn't know that she was all tattoo. How ugly she looks.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-16 11:46 PM Subject: More BBs...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:00 AM Subject: Hm....
... Being to look like old times again. Free Talk and Translations in the Hundreds, the rest in the tens.
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Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-17 12:03 AM
# 302 cool
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-17 01:10 AM Subject: chairman and vic up in a tree, K I S S I NG...
Of course vic is the bumboy* and chairman is the top!
*bumboy; courtesy of canchin
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 04:37 AM Subject: <head shake> <eye roll>
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 2/16/2008 11:10 AM
chairman and vic up in a tree, K I S S I NG...
Of course vic is the bumboy* and chairman is the top!
*bumboy; courtesy of canchin
For somebody, who has claimed to have worked with Orbit and MetroTimes, you have taken a low road. Then again, the reason you left Michigan is because you had trouble with these folks?
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Author: wowzers Time: 2008-2-17 08:20 AM Subject: re: #304
"you have taken a low road", suggests tradervic
Yeah you're right, my apologies.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:18 PM Subject: Apology accepted.
As it stands, there are too many daggers drawn as it is. If nothing else, a sense of professional conduct does need to be conducted. While we are all players in this BBS opera - we are men and women in real life.
I would like to think that most of us conduct ourselves at a better level in real life.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:26 PM Subject: It is funny...
Talking with an old friend today. He works in law enforcement - and has seen his share of criminals over the years - from masterminds to assorted low-level thugs.
We were talking about thinkers of past times - Franklin, Marx, Nietizche... and what they would be like in our times.
He cracked me up when said, "Nietizche would be on up on Internet forums with a stupid avatar and handle like frodo666."
I think he probably closer to the truth that most of thinkers of today. Such is life.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:31 PM Subject: Rosa Parks...
I remember a few years ago, when the movie Barbershop came out, there was a bit of discussion about what she really did. Long and short of it, she was just tired and she sat down... but there was something else that a lot of people have missed over the years. The look in her eyes when she sat down, much like the look she gave when she was booked.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:39 PM Subject: That tired look in her eyes...
It is a look of person that is tired of living in fear. There comes a point and a time in a person's life - whether they are young or old - when they look at the person, people, system, or thing that gives them fear and in the words of Alistair Crowley, "Do what thou wilt..."
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:43 PM Subject: For they are tired of being afraid...
... and regardless of consequences of not being afraid, they will not be afraid again.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:46 PM Subject: I do not know if I am a thinker...
... some say yes, some say otherwise.
Yet if I am going to post my thoughts on the Internet, then I will post with my real name and my real photo. For I have grown tired of the stale taste of fearing the unknown regions of the world.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:52 PM Subject: For 30 years of my life, I choked on fear...
... living the Detroit area, dealing with the ghosts of 1967 - listening and re-listening to tales of what was then and what is now. Watching men of good knowledge and qualities of leadership squander years of peoples lives playing every dirty political/racial fear card in their deck of speeches as the area slowly died.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:54 PM Subject: So, tired of fear... I post on the Internet and write to the newspapers
... and for the years that I have been doing it, for better or for worse, I have not had any regrets about it.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 12:56 PM Subject: So, as the saying goes...
... "Do what thou wilt..." as you gaze onto my tired eyes. For you will not find fear in them.
Author: messi30 Time: 2008-2-17 01:51 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-17 13:47
Can any forumite remember the forumite that posted these lovely photos? ..
Naa,
that is not important
what about to change your avatar ? (please)
you will do a big big big favor for all forumites here
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-17 02:08 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-17 13:47
Can any forumite remember the forumite that posted these lovely photos?
Sure many remember.
But why did you post the Ugliest one he had ever sent?
Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-17 02:10 PM
"" But why did you post the Ugliest one he had ever sent? """
I think it's all about a Trader fetish...
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-17 02:11 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
zglobal at 2008-2-17 14:10
"" But why did you post the Ugliest one he had ever sent? """
I think it's all about a Trader fetish...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 02:13 PM Subject: <sigh>
... everyone is a critic.
But who was the forumite who introduced these photos in the first place?
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-17 02:35 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-2-17 14:13
... everyone is a critic.
But who was the forumite who introduced these photos in the first place?
Wasn't it him?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 02:53 PM Subject: Has anyone heard this song in China yet?
Suffice to say - the hip hop influence as already there.
Low - Flo Rida
{Chorus:}
Shawty had them Apple Bottom Jeans {Jeans}
Boots with the fur {With the fur}
The whole club was lookin at her
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps {With the straps}
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack {Ayy}
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
{Verse 1:}
I aint never seen nuthin thatll make me go,
This crazy all night spendin my dough
Had a million dollar vibe and a bottle to go
Dem birthday cakes, they stole the show
So sexual, she was flexible
Professional, drinkin X and ooo
Hold up wait a minute, do I see what I think I
Whoa
Did I think I seen shorty get low
Aint the same when its up that close
Make it rain, Im makin it snow
Work the pole, I got the bank roll
Imma say that I prefer them no clothes
Im into that, I love women exposed
She threw it back at me, I gave her more
Cash aint a problem, I know where it goes
She had them
{Chorus:}
Apple Bottom Jeans {Jeans}
Boots with the fur {With the fur}
The whole club was lookin at her
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps {With the straps}
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack
{Ayy}
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
{Verse 2:}
Hey
Shawty what I gotta do to get you home
My jeans full of gwap
And they ready for Shones
Cadillacs Maybachs for the sexy grown
Patrone on the rocks thatll make you moan
One stack (come on)
Two stacks (come on)
Three stacks (come on, now thats three grand)
What you think Im playin baby girl
Im the man, Ill bend the rubber bands
Thats what I told her, her legs on my shoulder
I knew it was ova, that Henny and Cola
Got me like a Soldier
She ready for Rover, I couldnt control her
So lucky oo me, I was just like a clover
Shorty was hot like a toaster
Sorry but I had to fold her,
Like a pornography poster
She showed her
{Chorus:}
Apple Bottom Jeans {Jeans}
Boots with the fur {With the fur}
The whole club was lookin at her
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps {With the straps}
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack {Ayy}
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
{Verse 3:}
Whoa
Shawty
Yea she was worth the money
Lil mama took my cash,
And I aint want it back,
The way she bit that rag,
Got her them paper stacks,
Tattoo Above her crack,
I had to handle that,
I was on it, sexy woman, let me shownin
They be want it two in the mornin
Im zonin in them rosay bottles foamin
She wouldnt stop, made it drop
Shorty did that pop and lock,
Had to break her off that gwap
Gah it was fly just like my glock
{Chorus:}
Apple Bottom Jeans {Jeans}
Boots with the fur {With the fur}
The whole club was lookin at her
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
Them baggy sweat pants
And the Reeboks with the straps {With the straps}
She turned around and gave that big booty a smack {Ayy}
She hit the flo {She hit the flo}
Next thing you know
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
Cmon
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Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-17 02:54 PM
ahhh - no
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-17 03:06 PM Subject: Hm...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
card-holder at 2/17/2008 12:54 AM
ahhh - no
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-18 07:36 AM Subject: Okay Mods... here is nice, editted version of the photo...
... from the fourmite who I am trying to remember. This should be enough for the older forumites to tell me, while you have not much issues.
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Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-18 05:35 PM
Good Afternoon Canchin
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-18 10:48 PM Subject: Interesting Article out of Pravda...
Looks like the French are stepping up their weapons export business. Be interesting to see if they are going to make a run at the Asian Rim Defense Market.
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Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-18 11:56 PM
Canchin #328
A sincere warning
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 02:00 AM Subject: Something Rare on Television
Found this to one of more dead reviews about one of my favorite shows - South Park. These guys NO scared cow unslaughtered, as all great comedy does. Hope to see them on the television for another 20 years!
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South Park
Michael Idato - Sydney Morning Herald, February 18, 2008
There is a bull-in-a-china-shop style to South Park that makes it as fearless as it is confronting.
Love it or hate it, South Park invariably impresses with its brevity and wit and the astonishing speed with which it is able to comment on contemporary events and personalities. Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, for example, have found themselves the target of its excoriating humour. Tonights episode, With Apologies To Jessie Jackson, sees Stans dad Randy Marsh on Wheel Of Fortune where he solves the puzzle n-ggers in a wholly inappropriate manner (the correct answer is naggers), sending South Park - and, it seems, the world - into a meltdown. Of course, writers Trey Parker and Matt Stone are actually aiming their knives at former Seinfeld actor Michael Richardss slur-packed meltdown at a Los Angeles comedy club.
In the US, the broadcast of this episode drew an interesting and mixed response. There was predictable outrage but there was also praise from some African American groups for the manner in which the episode explores the power of language and its comparison of how the adults and children of South Park deal with it in different ways. In that sense, it has echoes of a much older episode, when a debate raged over the South Park town flag - it depicted a black stick figure being hanged by a white stick figure - and the resolution was that the children, unlike the adults, were colour blind and in fact saw only two stick figures.
Powerful social commentary is not typically the hallmark of a cartoon, particularly one made out of construction paper and with such a smutty sense of humour. And yet, while the brilliant Family Guy wallows in pop-culture references and The Simpsons plays with mild social satire, there is a bull-in-a-china-shop style to South Park that makes it as fearless as it is confronting.
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Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-19 02:11 AM
Trader Vic, we better have that ORIGINAL AVATAR back, or we are going to have to have a poll
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 03:51 AM Subject: Funny that you mention a poll...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
card-holder at 2/18/2008 12:11 PM
Trader Vic, we better have that ORIGINAL AVATAR back, or we are going to have to have a poll
NOTE TO MODS!!! Here are the photos that are supposed to go with that poll!!!!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 04:08 AM Subject: On a more serious note...
... and people keep talking about legallizing the banned items.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 04:34 AM Subject: What did Gandhi say?
An eye for eye and the world goes blind...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 04:56 AM Subject: This article makes me chuckle...
... because I very much oppose monopolies and monopoly tactics...
Steve Jobs, welcome to real world, again.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 05:24 AM Subject: Remember my question to China about sports worship?
In the words of Sam Kinison, remember this post! <OH! OOHHHHH!!!!!>
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 05:28 AM Subject: And a few forumites said that China...
... would not get involved with the Microsoft / Yahoo talks.
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Alibaba has say in Yahoo, Microsoft talks: source
Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:45am EST
By Kirby Chien - Reuters
BEIJING (Reuters) - Alibaba Group, the Chinese Internet firm, will seek a stronger voice for its management team in Microsofts talks to acquire Yahoo, Alibabas largest shareholder, a source said on Monday.
Based on the original agreement with Yahoo, which owns 39 percent of Alibaba, the Chinese company is in a very strong position to influence how shares would be transferred to any new owner, said the source, who is close to Alibaba.
The problem is a perception by Beijing authorities that an important Chinese firm could come under the control of Microsoft Corp, which has a reputation of using monopolistic tactics, said the source, who is familiar with a team of bankers and lawyers assembled by Alibaba to review its options.
Officials at Alibaba declined to comment.
Yahoo is the Chinese companys largest single shareholder, but Alibabas management -- led by founder Jack Ma -- has retained effective control over its operations.
Microsoft on January 31 made an unsolicited offer for Yahoo -- then valued at $44.6 billion -- which Yahoos board has rejected.
Alibaba has not been involved, however, in any talks between Microsoft and Yahoo, but would get involved as negotiations get more serious, the source said.
Alibabas management is assuming the deal will eventually go through, he said.
Alibaba -- which runs Yahoos China operation as well as other Web businesses, including Alibaba.com Ltd, the countrys largest listed Internet firm -- would need assurances of management control if Microsofts bid were to succeed, he said.
Foreign control of large companies in key or strategic industries is a politically sensitive issue for Beijing, which has forced many prospective buyers to cut their intended stakes or simply delayed the application process indefinitely.
Arcelor Mittal, which had already agreed to buy 38.4 percent of Laiwu Steel Co., last year accepted a smaller stake and higher price to improve its chances of winning government approval.
Alibabas four-member board currently includes one Yahoo representative, Chief Executive Jerry Yang.
Another major shareholder in Alibaba is Japans Softbank Corp, which owns about 30 percent of the Chinese company. Softbank also partners with Yahoo in Yahoo Japan Corp.
($=7.16 yuan)
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-19 01:09 PM Subject: Reply #336 tradervic's post
...All the while we know that Newton's laws for centuries...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 11:22 PM Subject: Time to throw another log on the conspircy fire...
... about the Swiss Banking Systems...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 11:33 PM Subject: From the Oh $#!+ section of the news...
Folks in Britian have discovered an odd fish, in their own back yards.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-19 11:35 PM Subject: Too Bad...
I have some articles to share.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 12:27 AM Subject: So what is the price of a Kg of meat now a days?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 12:39 AM Subject: Looks like Eastern Europe is learning to knuckle under to Iran for oil...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 12:44 AM Subject: Interesting bit about conspircy sites and google...
Other than Elvis and the reptiles... most of these sites have probably been ripped off for post material by some of our more colorful forumites...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 01:00 AM Subject: Interesting Sermon this week...
Minister to couples: Sex everyday!
YBOR CITY, Florida (AP) -- A southwest Florida church issued a challenge for its married members: Hanky panky every day.
Relevant Church head pastor Paul Wirth issued the 30-day sex challenge to take on high divorce rates.
And thats no different for people who attend church, Wirth said Sunday. Sometimes life gets in the way. Our jobs get in the way.
The challenge doesnt extend to unwed congregants, however.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 01:46 AM Subject: For the folks that may have missed this with all the Castro news...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 02:36 AM Subject: How many hockey fans are there in China?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 02:37 AM Subject: Speaking of laowais...
... appears someone wrote a book about the experience...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 03:27 AM Subject: Hm... Accord to Pravda, the U.S. recession talk is just propaganda...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 04:07 AM Subject: Now this is a very deep read from New York City Journal...
... it would interesting to see if this issue is hitting young urban males in China.
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Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-20 04:40 AM
These reptiles that control the world ?
Are they dangerous or if fed enough eggs, they will leave us all alone
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 05:23 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
card-holder at 2/19/2008 02:40 PM
These reptiles that control the world ?
Are they dangerous or if fed enough eggs, they will leave us all alone
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 05:39 AM Subject: Looks like the Russians...
will not be exploring the Arctic as fast as everyone thought, as shown from the folks at IHT...
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Author: rocky_horror Time: 2008-2-20 08:56 AM
Cool
Author: cestmoi Time: 2008-2-20 09:11 AM Subject: Ugly is as ugly does
I wonder whether there is any truth to the rumour circulating around that Emucentral was refused a role in the Rocky Horror Show because he is too damn scary...
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Author: rocky_horror Time: 2008-2-20 10:10 AM Subject: Post #358
Warning: Cyber-Chinese alert
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-20 09:12 PM Subject: What I know is that...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by cestmoi at 2/19/2008 07:11 PM
Ugly is as ugly does
I wonder whether there is any truth to the rumour circulating around that Emucentral was refused a role in the Rocky Horror Show because he is too damn scary...
... when the China Daily BBS finally comes around to purging the forumite/mod accounts of ghosts/ghouls/and God knows what - I am going to be one of few that will come out of it in (hopefully) one piece.
Can the same be said for you and the other forumites?
Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-21 02:04 AM
Cestmoi - hi - I have a feeling Emucentral is not that ugly in person - just some of the stuff he writes sometimes - he is better of late
Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-21 02:08 AM
Yep cestmoi..... that could be true....
We'll have to ask him tomorrow...
He's curled up right now.
The snoring deafening.
His poor wife.
..and what's that wet mark on the pillow.
Old age creaping......
I can see the spittle trail.....
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 03:26 AM Subject: And people wonder why Americans think the British are the crazy ones...
Because this guy would have gotten a pat on the back for defending himself - instead of being charged with murder.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 05:27 AM Subject: So... who is in favor of watching a bunch of...
... rich Paris Hilton wannabes living in your neighborhood - tax free? If you are an English laowai - please let this @$$ kisser know how you feel on the subject.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 05:56 AM Subject: And people wonder why I am a bit of a Luddite at home...
... looks like Sony finally pushed something out as a defacto standard (curse of the Betamax is broken?).
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 05:57 AM Subject: Ladies, I hate to say it, but...
... either you have it or you don't.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 06:13 AM Subject: Is it me...
... or this a bit scary? (Photo from the Economist)
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 06:30 AM Subject: Now this ought to make a few chuckle...
... or cry - depending on their stance on national treasues...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 09:45 AM Subject: Are the Olympics here yet?
Because for all the kretching - I have yet to hear of a country pulling out.
I do believe that to many folks on both sides on the Asian Rim are giving the folks in Hollywood too much credit than they deserve.
Photo 1, Yes! Correct Clock.
Photo 2, No! Not that sort of countdown!!!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 09:54 AM Subject: That reminds me...
... here is the IOC website - to get all the official information about the Olympics.
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Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-21 11:40 AM Subject: Interesting news, Trader
Now, that one about stabbing the mugger...
Blood boiling stuff. If there is a proof of debilization of the western civilization and a critital stage of where the basic common understanding of good vs evil is today - this artical is a heavy corpus delicti.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 09:38 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2/20/2008 09:40 PM
Interesting news, Trader
Now, that one about stabbing the mugger...
Blood boiling stuff. If there is a proof of debilization of the western civilization and a critital stage of where the basic common understanding of good vs evil is today - this artical is a heavy corpus delicti.
Oh, I have a couple more about Britian that make you scratch your head, but I will give you this article first from Texas. If you can, head to the website and check out the comments, pretty nasty stuff from both sides of the political spectrum.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 09:39 PM Subject: Testing...
Mods, please have a discussion about what you are trying to do, then PM me. This management by committee is getting old. A unifed politburo, you are not.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 09:40 PM Subject: Reply to post #371 - here is another post for thought
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Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 10:10 PM
Hello
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 10:10 PM Subject: Now here is an Olympic Conspircy Theory to Ponder...
... the reason the Dear Doctor, and the rest of the usual gang of forumites, are screaming about Jews and the Olympics is to try to cause an incident to make that none of the best black, white, and asian athletes in the world from the U.S.A., Canada, Europe, and Oceania come to Beijing - and wipe the floor with the Chinese Olympic team.
It would be embarrassing if the host country did not win at least 33% of the medals - so these wannabes are trying to ensures that the mother country wins, either by hook or by crook.
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Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 10:12 PM
Good grief - what you have done to your avatar Uncle Vic?
Author: a__lucky_boy Time: 2008-2-21 10:18 PM
a toy website?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 10:36 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tmphgt at 2/21/2008 08:12 AM
Good grief - what you have done to your avatar Uncle Vic?
The eyes just track you around the room, don't they?
Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 10:40 PM Subject: Yes ...
In an "eyes tracking you around the room in a maybe creepy maybe not" way
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 10:55 PM Subject: <evil chuckle>
More the reason to keep it
Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 11:25 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by canchin at 21-2-2008 03:20 PM
You've been busy re-stringing your guitar for some time. Got that "G" string settled in now?
Heh heh ... I was suitably undercover and I am not just talking about the need for extra duvets in GZ
Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 11:35 PM Subject: Post #386
Looks like he is saying "No Photos"
Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 11:43 PM
I am wondering who will be the first to PhotoShop something cool with Uncle Vic's head?
Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-21 11:44 PM Subject: Post #389
Coool ...
Now, I need to await my Mission Briefing following an excellent phone call as I wondered through HK Airport last night - or was it this morning ...
Jet lag ... damn ...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-21 11:49 PM Subject: So... did Xinhua ever publish photos from the China Test?
No?
Here is a photo from the American Test.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 12:05 AM Subject: <laughing>
No love, no respect...
Now you know why my wife hates this place, and I refuse to post anymore photos of her.
Author: tmphgt Time: 2008-2-22 12:32 AM Subject: A rabbit?
Looked like a pile or rocks ...
Then again I do have jet-lag eyes
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 02:02 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
canchin at 2/21/2008 10:30 AM
Hey! You should have seen my first choice!
Still, I thought the bunny rabbit was cute!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 02:03 AM Subject: Speaking of Meat on the Dinner Table...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 02:49 AM Subject: On to science news...
... now there has been an ebb and flow to the idea of genetic 'superbugs' - but this may be a very good application.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 03:02 AM Subject: Okay this was a funny read...
... until I started thinking about it. Is Rudd a preview of President Obama? Save the Whales indeed...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 03:35 AM Subject: Then again Hilary needs all the anti-Obama press...
... that she can get.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 03:44 AM Subject: Seen too much of this lately...
... star chambers and dumb @$$ socialist workers
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 03:48 AM Subject: And this...
Here was the companion article to the one that Doberman responsed to. Sorry folks - but as my father used to tell me:
The ones that usually preach turn the other cheek live in high wall monasteries.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 05:45 AM Subject: It is interesting what a year makes...
... then again the tenant vs. principle always remains.
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Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-22 12:02 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-22 03:48
Here was the companion article to the one that Doberman responsed to. Sorry folks - but as my father used to tell me:
The ones that usually preach turn the other cheek live in high wall monaste ...
Probably you need to check the size of the jpg containing text before uploading it. Some of them appear too small to read. Upscaling doesn't help, simply not enough pixels to get it readable.
[ edit=add. This part - "turn the other cheek live "- I did not understand. Is it an idiom? Could you polish it a bit for me?]
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Author: emucentral Time: 2008-2-22 12:29 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2008-2-22 14:02
edit=add. This part - "turn the other cheek live "- I did not understand. Is it an idiom? Could you polish it a bit for me?...
"Turn the other cheek" is an expression like "ignore it" or don't worry too much about it.
The way Matt wrote it was correct, but yes I can see some ambiguity with the "live" immediately following.
The expression as Matt wrote basically said that those who say "don't worry about" all the violence, etc, actually live in "high walled monasteries" where they are protected from what they are telling others to put up with.
Hope that makes sense, Andy.
Cheers
JB
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-22 12:49 PM Subject: Thanks Emu
This word "live" I joined at first with the cheek. I read it " laiv" not "liv".
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-22 06:48 PM Subject: Reply to all posts of TV
Hee your data gathering thing is great. I really enjoy it
You are wrong, if you thing that I do not read your thread or do not like it.
Perhaps, you did not accepted the Sofa set gift, which I send you few days before
Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-22 08:17 PM
Well helo Sajy...nice to see you here brother...
Author: emucentral Time: 2008-2-22 08:47 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2008-2-22 14:49
This word "live" I joined at first with the cheek. I read it " laiv" not "liv".
Funnily enough the first time I read it (because there was no comma between) I read it "laiv" as well.
Good explanation there, Andy.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 09:05 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2/21/2008 10:02 PM
Probably you need to check the size of the jpg containing text before uploading it. Some of them appear too small to read. Upscaling doesn't help, simply not enough pixels to get it readable.
Sorry about that, sometimes the process I use has an issue - let me know if you have issue with this JPG.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-22 09:14 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by canchin at 2/21/2008 11:07 PM
Well of course you can:
<chuckle> Hm, I smell another roast thread in the making...
Do you have more?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-23 03:09 AM Subject: <groan>
QUOTE:
Originally posted by canchin at 2/22/2008 08:10 AM
In fact, I do, but I'll hold off the others...except perhaps for this one:
I had to ask... Then again, I would figure you to face plant me on a couple of better themed rodents - desert rat I am not.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-23 07:57 AM Subject: Regardless Canchin...
... here is an article that you may enjoy, and cringe, at the same time.
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Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-23 10:58 AM Subject: Reply #413 tradervic's post
Yes, thanks. No problem with reading this time.
You know I am in opposition to death sentence for two reasons
A) Real possibility of court's mistake (or even worse willfull forgery) , which happened not once and not twice in the world.
B) This sentence used for political reasons.
In the case above that mutated deviant on the right should be turned to fertilizers.
The fertilizer to fed to an old oak in the county.
The others two to be sentenced to minimum 20 years of heavy prison with all financial benfits coming from their work going to support the family of the victim.
After the release of these two , the oak to be used if they ever would come into the conflict with law in similar circumstances. Which, of course exludes taking part in a fight in self-defense or defence of innocent.
---
Would Canchin comment to this very my post , dont' read it. It would be too drastic and too descriptive. My version is very mild and reasonable.
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-23 11:09 AM Subject: Reply #418 tradervic's post
KKK supports Black for President.
Hmmm, it seems Hilary has got some surprising and positive results of her policy well in advance...
Show me any other president ,leave alone a candidate for this function, from the long list who could do that. KKK cheerleaders 6ing for a Nigger.
If Barrack Obama wins the must see/listen would be live[laiv] transmition of cheerfull cone-hooded crowds from the south and Obama thanking KKK for the support.
After that I saw the 4 riders of apocalypse...
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Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-23 11:23 AM
Maybe some reverse psychology from the pointy headed clowns.
They're only missing a big red nose.
What a joke they are.
Only in America.....
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-23 11:06 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by canchin at 2/23/2008 02:03 AM
Role reversal then perhaps?
I see this rabbit hole is going to quite shallow for a while... but for the sake of laughs and giggles, got any more?
Author: saj2go Time: 2008-2-23 11:36 PM
he TV
what the hell r u doing in Iraq
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-23 11:43 PM Subject: Seems somebody is touchy about this analysis...
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Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-23 11:45 PM
# 423 Canchin
ha ha ha
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-23 11:47 PM Subject: Anyone care to comment on Post #426?
Is it an advanced case of Qian Xuesen Syndrome?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-23 11:55 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by zglobal at 2/22/2008 09:23 PM
Maybe some reverse psychology from the pointy headed clowns.
They're only missing a big red nose.
What a joke they are.
Only in America.....
You did look up the website, right?
Author: canchin Time: 2008-2-23 11:58 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-2-23 23:06
... but for the sake of laughs and giggles, got any more?
Actually, this will be my last post in this thread so no, I don't "got any more."
In fact, I would appreciate it if you would edit the subject of this thread and remove my name from the title. As soon as you have done that, I will delete all the posts I have put into this thread and if my limit will not allow me to remove all of my posts I will ask the mods to delete them for me. I will see how many I can remove as soon as I post this.
Your continuing rabid insults against the nation of China in the China Today section are far too disgusting for me to wish to have my name associated with your screen name.
Your lack of ability to actually debate your asinine attacks on China and the people of China in favor of simply posting little pictures of new vituperation and your latest attacking the Olympics was - for me - the final straw.
So, no need to be concerned, all pictures now dirtying my computer that contain your visage have already been deleted and you can have your rabbit hole and place it firmly where the sun don't shine, and, as I request, please remove my screen name from association with this thread.
Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-24 12:17 AM
I don't got any more - Chicago speak ?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-24 12:24 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
card-holder at 2/23/2008 10:17 AM
I don't got any more -
Chicago speak ?
Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-24 12:29 PM Subject: Reply #410 tradervic's post
What is shenganians?
Author: card-holder Time: 2008-2-24 12:42 PM
What is shenganians?
an old word - meaning silly stuff and weird stuff and crazy nutter stuff
Author: zglobal Time: 2008-2-24 01:04 PM
I'll give you a clue about Canchin trader.
He's lived here, and as anyone who lives here knows, he is about the best writer on China and has a great insight into how it all fits together.
In fact he p&sses me off sometimes because he is so insightful.
It reminds me I don't know it all and I listen and learn a little something extra.
In order to learn, you have to listen first.
Did you you discuss the history of Djibouti with your history teacher in pre-school and tell him he was wrong?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-25 12:03 PM Subject: Funny that you should mention that Z...
... because I did get in trouble with my 6th grade school teacher when she talked about Africa. It wasn't for the fact I was right, I actually brought my mother's medical book in the next day to prove it. It was the fact that I had the audicity to refute her in front of the class, twice.
As for the shenganians part (Doberman, Card-Holder, et al)... I have found that my ability to edit and post usually gets editted and/or restricted - depending on the time and date of the mod squad monitoring. I tried a couple of times to edit this thread's first post, with no effect.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-25 12:04 PM Subject: Speaking of shenganians...
... this one was a WTF, worldwide shenganian...
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Author: doberman Time: 2008-2-25 01:23 PM Subject: Reply #415 tradervic's post
Now I am lost.
I read it was "global outage", and I read "mistakenly blocked by ISP around the world."
Then there is "it was probably single mistake by an enginner in Pakistan Telecom".
Which all means that a single guy in Pakistan can make ( and can make it even by mistake hic!) global action by ISP providers. Scary as it is.
Technically done by corrupting routing tables. Are these tables on the other side of a rope kept by a Pakistan guy?
--
OK, does "shenganians" mean something very weird and unthinkable actually happening in real life?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-25 10:18 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2/24/2008 11:23 PM
Now I am lost.
I read it was "global outage", and I read "mistakenly blocked by ISP around the world."
Then there is "it was probably single mistake by an enginner in Pakistan Telecom".
Which all means that a single guy in Pakistan can make ( and can make it even by mistake hic!) global action by ISP providers. Scary as it is.
Technically done by corrupting routing tables. Are these tables on the other side of a rope kept by a Pakistan guy?
--
OK, does "shenganians" mean something very weird and unthinkable actually happening in real life?
Long story short - someone was asleep at the switch at YouTube when the boys from Pakistan decided to block their website. Scary stuff indeed - especially when you remember the cyber attacks a year or two ago with Russia and a certain Baltic Sea nation.
And yes shenganians is something weird and unthinkable actually happening - cyberspace, real life, and otherwise.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-25 10:18 PM Subject: Regardless, this bit of nationalism...
... may rattle the Ron Paul supporters in China a bit:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-25 11:51 PM Subject: And in a nasty bit of news out of Germany...
... which makes me think of other places...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-26 12:09 AM Subject: And this bit of news is very distrubing...
... especially if there is a similar exodus of Chinese doctors and specialists out of China...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-26 12:18 AM Subject: Hm...
... it about 12 AM (China Time) and the post counts already look a little funny. Wonder if the counts at the start of the day are "fixed" with kron job on the server.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-26 02:08 AM Subject: And people wonder why there are two pilots at the controls...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-26 02:49 AM Subject: What is the old adage?
The Devil is Always in the Details...
That is why I prefer to buy stocks that have regular dividend payments, so I can roll that into tax free muni funds. It is a slow go - but a good strategy for building a retirement fund.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-2-26 04:41 AM Subject: And for those folks that are getting their feet wet in the stock market...
... this would be a good read to know what to watch out for in predators...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-4 08:46 AM Subject: Back from vacation...
... and it seems that there has been a few changes at the BBS. I am going to hold up on the reviews of said changes - given that the management at the China Daily BBS were good on their word to send a prize for being Member of the Month for January 2008.
But let all forumites be assured, I will probably be back to my old hijinks in a few days - if the mods are in the mood, and/or if the management is not under the gun to keep this laowai from being too friendly with the world here.
Regardless - big hug to the crew 
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-4 08:54 AM Subject: And yes...
... I am back forumites - and I will need a few days to catch up on BBS events. Kudos to Markwu, T-bird, and the crew for getting February's Member of the Month Awards, or is it January's? Regardless you should find the <CENSORED> to be quite nice.
Then again, I was expecting an 8 1/2 by 11 sized ATTABOY - suitable for hanging on the wall.
Author: herdsman Time: 2008-3-4 10:01 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-4 08:46
... and it seems that there has been a few changes at the BBS.
I am going to hold up on the reviews of said changes - given that the management at the China Daily BBS were good on their word to ...
just curious,
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-4 10:03 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
herdsman at 3/3/2008 08:01 PM
i wonder to know what gift you have receive?
just curious,
Author: herdsman Time: 2008-3-4 10:06 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-4 10:03
You will see as soon as the mods approve my posts and picture.
mods: [ mɔdz ]
n. ÔØÈ˵ĹìµÀÑо¿Õ¾
right?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-4 10:06 AM Subject: Hm...
... it does appear the mods are under orders to keep order - it is going to be a bit tough to carry on a good conversation.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-4 10:09 AM Subject: Then again...
... it seems that the mods cannot keep the SPAMMERS from appearing again in the forums.
Cripes - it looks to be a long six months before the Olympics.
Author: herdsman Time: 2008-3-4 10:13 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-4 10:06
... it does appear the mods are under orders to keep order - it is going to be a bit tough to carry on a good conversation.
but thank you , i will focus this thread to see you gift pic in the future!
Author: caringhk Time: 2008-3-4 11:03 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-4 08:46
... and it seems that there has been a few changes at the BBS.
I am going to hold up on the reviews of said changes - given that the management at the China Daily BBS were good on their word to ...
The gift inside is real, genuine............ so pls don't chuck it aside
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-4 10:22 PM Subject: <sigh> Looks like I will have to repost the photos...
... but it is nice to see that mods are in the mood to post what I dig up from around the world, case in point:
For those that dare not tread the TTCD, I present this little item about the changing issues in China about sexual relations:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 01:23 AM Subject: It is funny...
... but the fate of this man echoes the fate of many in a dying breed - repair men. I assume that the recyclers/salvage men will fill this slot in the grand scheme of things - but there is something to be said for a repair versus a replacement.
For those who are living in China - pay heed, for you will probably witness the passing of the repair men in a generation - given how disposable income and disposable items are becoming the norm.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 02:03 AM Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen, Forumites of all ages...
... feast your eyes on the China Daily BBS Member of the Month Award!
Maybe, just maybe, you can win one of these lovely wallets for yourself.
Okay, question to the staff at the China Daily - is this real leather or a vinyl of some sort? My wife thinks it is fake.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 02:14 AM Subject: And people ask me why I think Isreal will not last...
... I tell them it is a matter of imbreeding and the oxymoron that is "Jewish Democracy". Observe this article from the New York Times, where a couple has to jump through a great many hoops - to do something that should be as easy as a blood test and proof of residency in other countries.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 03:54 AM Subject: A good video for any PLA member to watch
This video is a must for any armchair general, or active PLA member, to watch and learn from. As China keeps trading with the world, the issue of piracy is going to crop up.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 03:55 AM Subject: Probably the best retort to PETA I have seen
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 04:53 AM Subject: Found an interesting book...
... International Petroleum Encyclopedia - 1990.
It is a bit dated - but it has be a good read about the Asian Rim oil and gas fields.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 04:54 AM Subject: Here is a nice photo of the gas and oil fields...
... around my wife's family's city of ZhanJiang.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 05:21 AM Subject: Hm...
... well kiddies, it looks like Uncle Laowai is under the special mod review section again.
Just keep coming back to this thread for all the mod approved articles that I dig up, and comment on, from the world.
If the mods are in a good mood, then you will not be sorry that you came back.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 06:53 AM Subject: Okay, this is very strange...
... the ad list from Google has:
1) Incest A Family Tragedy
2) Child abuse photos
3) Stop Bullying
4) Stop The Violence At Home
How about tinker with the ad generator so it does not scare the hell out of the newbies that view this BBS over the next few months!
Author: herdsman Time: 2008-3-5 11:52 AM
thank you ! tradervic, yes ,i see the gift from the chinadaily , i see the pic is very nice,
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-5 12:03 PM Subject: Reply #443 tradervic's post
Now the in vas ion takes place into the frame of the top post in some threads. Ads from China mobile.
Step by step, step by step. finger, elbow, whole arm and then...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-5 09:33 PM Subject: I do not know Doberman...
... more like a static on the phone line to me. If the folks at the China Daily BBS are in a real mood - then they will make ads a stationary pane in the window. That way, no matter how much scrolling is done, the ad remains in the window to amuse/inform/annoy the forumites about some "fabulous new product or service they cannot live without".
Author: raiden Time: 2008-3-5 09:41 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-5 21:33
... more like a static on the phone line to me. If the folks at the China Daily BBS are in a real mood - then they will make ads a stationary pane in the window. That way, no matter how much scro ...
next it will be the the ONLY thing that loads, while holding your page is stassis, for several seconds to appear to be some sort of dowloading lag time, until you are sufficiently aggrevated to the point just before you break your computer or your blood pressure jumps dangerously high...
on the phone its likely thats all that will load, their 500 kb advertisement you will pay to download each time you switch to a new page will sit and doddle around on your phone during peak times causing the 180kb page to take 5 times longer to load BEFORE you can read anything but their ads at all..
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 12:31 AM Subject: Hm...
... posted a some articles, only a few showed up in the thread. Looks like the mods are really under the gun about content.
Pity...
For those who are interested, please look up the <C ENSORE D> for the shooting of the <C ENDSORE D> that may bring down the <C ENSORE D> of <C ENSORE D>.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 12:33 AM Subject: <Evil Chuckle>
For those in the peanut gallery that have an ax or two to grind again certain forumites - the Google Ads may be your silver bullet...
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 01:52 AM Subject: As China joins up with the world culture,
the automotive cultural phenomenon that is bumper stickers is probably sure to follow.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 04:43 AM Subject: I could make a crack about a lot things...
... about this article - but it would be trite. One thing I will say is this S.O.B. chose the wrong country to do this in - because they are going to get medeval on his cowardly @$$!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 05:03 AM Subject: I know this idea...
... would go over like a lead ballon in P.R. China. Forumites from the Dear Doctor to the chairman would scream for this practice to be banned if Chinese born girls were forced to leave the country for a foreign arranged marriage.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 05:19 AM Subject: Like the old saying goes...
... everything in moderation!
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 05:29 AM Subject: Had to share this photo
Allahabad, India: An devotee of the Hindu god Shiva dances as part of a religious procession on the eve of the festival of Maha Shivratri
Photograph: AFP
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 06:41 AM Subject: A bad day at the zoo...
... something to be said for keeping the herbivores seperated.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 07:07 AM Subject: Now this does not bode well...
... for all concerned parties. Then again the worse case scenario is a "Cuban Boatlift" towards China.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 12:13 PM Subject: I have heard a few cracks about "American Culture"
To that, I can only throw a little fuel to the fire! The original house of the hamburger - Louis Lunch!
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Author: pandamonium Time: 2008-3-6 12:45 PM Subject: Nice
but I still can't post in my cubicle
or maybe the 2 day delay still applies to me.
When have I ever said anything controversial??
Author: pandamonium Time: 2008-3-6 01:04 PM Subject: ORANGES
I was going to say Oranges
in that other thread
but they wouldn't let me finish
seems I can't post
or there is a delay when I post.
Oranges - they spray all over the keyboard
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Author: emucentral Time: 2008-3-6 01:33 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-6 09:07
Then again the worse case scenario is a "Cuban Boatlift" towards China.
Yeah, not a nice story there.
Good idea posting as image, I imagine it would not last as long otherwise.
China doesn't need neighbours who behave like that.
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-6 01:44 PM Subject: What story?
You must have some secrets hidden from me....
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 11:47 PM Subject: Hm...
... sad to see that the Hamburger thread could not be started in the United States section.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-6 11:48 PM Subject: Reply to Emu
That story shows the major difference between China and NK - the ability to embrace (to a degree) the world. If it was not for the politburo's more liberal immigration policy, I would have not been able to marry my wife - or many of the forumites that post here live and interact in China.
But I digress...
A nightmare scenario - for China, SK, Japan, and Russia - is a collaspe of the NK government, a la many an African nation. The refuge issue alone would make all four nations pucker their collective sphicters.
As it stands - if the politburo is able to play the delicate balancing act between the two Ks - then the current crop of refuges could be safely transfered from the North to the South.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 12:36 AM Subject: Hm... (Part Two)
Originally posted by tradervic at 2/25/2008 10:18 AM
... it about 12 AM (China Time) and the post counts already look a little funny. Wonder if the counts at the start of the day are "fixed" with kron job on the server.
Maybe an extra padding of 40 to 50 posts in certian forums?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 12:38 AM Subject: Hm... (Part Three)
It has been fun to see what words trip the filters nowadays - some are just down right funny.
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-3-7 01:08 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-7 00:37
Maybe an extra padding of 40 to 50 posts in certain forums?
Yeah, just checked that.
There are no posts for the day, yet it reads at 48?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 01:14 AM Subject: Yes...
... annoying little ploy by a certain certain - but easily detected by the forumites that sit at the opposite end of the clock.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 01:16 AM Subject: Hm...
... it would be interesting if a BBS like this would exist like this if the old school cadre of the CCP was running it. Methinks not.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 01:24 AM Subject: And since the filters have been tweaked again...
I will respond to emu's post #460 with this brief statement:
It is the incident like that shows the true difference between China and NK. China has embraced the world and with it enjoyed the fruits of the endeavour. NK has shunned the world and has become a pariah to its friends and neighbors.
I am glad that the politburo at least allows an opporunity for the Chinese people to reach out to the world. If that policy was not in place, I would not have been able to meet and marry my wife.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 01:25 AM Subject: If anything...
NK needs to heed China's example.
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-3-7 01:48 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-7 01:16
... it would be interesting if a BBS like this would exist like this if the old school cadre of the CCP was running it. Methinks not.
Who says they are not?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 01:53 AM Subject: <chuckle>
1) By the fact the anonymous avatars and handles are being used.
2) The very presence of laowai partcipating at this BBS.
When I think old school cadre - I am talking red books and placards around necks.
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-3-7 01:58 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-7 01:53
1) By the fact the anonymous avatars and handles are being used.
2) The very presence of laowai partcipating at this BBS.
When I think old school cadre - I am talking red books and placards ...
That's a rather quaint and antiquated view of the Party (whichever end of the spectrum you might be looking at)
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-3-7 02:01 AM
The whole point of this BBS was to involve "laowai" and like most BBSs there's not much in the way of accountability.
But not much gets by, I am sure, that is unwanted. (at least not for long)
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 02:09 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 3/6/2008 11:58 AM
That's a rather quaint and antiquated view of the Party (whichever end of the spectrum you might be looking at)
Review the posts - I was talking about the old school cadre - this current crop is a very, very different group.
From the tailored suits to the business like demenour - this generation looks like Putin and talks like Zhou. To paraphrase Teddy Roosevelt - they walk quietly and carry a very big briefcase.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 02:11 AM Subject: Oh, I know who's sandbox this is...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by wowzers at 3/6/2008 12:01 PM
The whole point of this BBS was to involve "laowai" and like most BBSs there's not much in the way of accountability.
But not much gets by, I am sure, that is unwanted. (at least not for long)
... and I would like to think I am getting adept at dealing with the people with the sand rakes.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 02:15 AM Subject: It is interesting to see that...
... the first topic listed at www chinadaily com cn china/2008npc forum html
was a lengthly discussion between three laowai - and not much of certain forumites.
Then again, as wowzers has hinted at - the powers to be in Beijing are curious to see what the laowai are thinking about.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 04:31 AM Subject: Speaking of the rake men...
... looks like someone may have cleaned up that mess over the TTCD forum...
... or has the mainpage been altered to show the count of the previous day, until some actually posts in the forum - in which the count reverts to 1?
If so, then if no one posts in that forum - it will continue to show the count of the day posts occur?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-7 04:53 AM Subject: It is certainly bad...
... to have to use 10 or more post title lines to talk about a topic - because certain mods are a bit nervous and/or jealous about subjects being talked about.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 12:52 AM Subject: Note to the forumites...
... the words n i g h t m a r e s c e n a r i o will trip up the post filters. If you like this metaphor - please refer to your thesaurus for similar phrases.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 01:02 AM Subject: Hm...
Dr. ##, a.k.a. Mengzhi, along with northwest - still seem to be interested in name calling using their own handles.
The Dear Doctor, and the rest of the usual gang of forumites, seems to have gone to their alternative identities. <chuckle> I wonder why?
Then again - with the recent example of 1337assassin - I can see why.
Whiskey Deltas by another other name?
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-3-8 01:48 AM
Alternative handles?
Usual gang of forumites?
Fess up and tell us what you know!
Author: wowzers Time: 2008-3-8 01:50 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-8 01:02
Dr. ##, a.k.a. Mengzhi,
Are you saying they are one and the same?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 03:02 AM Subject: If you read or watch a lot of news...
... the lead in on this story comes straight out of the "When Animals Attack" section.
I prefer to view the wildlife - behind a lot of safety glass and cold rolled steel.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 03:05 AM Subject: No...
Dr. ## (Mengzhi) and the Dear Doctor (Wchao37) are be two different people - from what I have been told, reading their messages, and observing the log in habits.
As for the rest... <chuckle> I prefer to keep threads going, seeing that previous threads usually get the chop when identifications are speculated and/or confirmed.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 05:27 AM Subject: Epilogue for the Lord of War
Looks like the Hollywood Ending and Reality have parted ways yet again.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 05:49 AM Subject: Keep an eye on this thread...
... there should be a couple of interesting posts - pending mod approval of course.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-8 06:05 AM Subject: So...
... anybody have a theory to this puzzle?
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Author: fatdragon Time: 2008-3-8 02:09 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-7 00:38
It has been fun to see what words trip the filters nowadays - some are just down right funny.
One word, one post should keep them busy backstage. And don't forget to repost on the assumption that the system has lost your origional attempt.
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-8 02:47 PM Subject: nightmare
Author: emucentral Time: 2008-3-8 06:53 PM Subject: Sad news for Jackie Chan
On the TV news tonight in Australia, it was reported that Jackie Chan's father's funeral was held today.
Both Jackie's parents had lived in Australia for many years, as Mr. Chan migrated to Australia and took up a job as a Chef at the US Embassy here in Canberra.
Jackie's mother was reported to have died 5 or 6 years ago, and his father was over 90 years old when he died.
Author: rocky_horror Time: 2008-3-9 01:11 AM
I think 6) should apply to 5) ...
That woman is clearly mad and cannot write anything resembling a song
Now, let us do the Time Warp!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 06:30 AM Subject: Oh, if that was the case then...
... the Beastie Boys would be a filter trip as well.
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-3-10 04:21 PM Subject: QUESTION
Is this thread the last sanctuary of the Westerners in China Daily?
Author: raiden Time: 2008-3-10 04:27 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-8 03:02
... the lead in on this story comes straight out of the "When Animals Attack" section.
I prefer to view the wildlife - behind a lot of safety glass and cold rolled steel.
- ...
thats great
its good to know if you are ever in a life threatening situation with the 400 pound king of beasts, that your 50 pound guides are carrying some sticks
and its also good to know that your fellow travellers will be taking some great photos of your death for their blog
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Author: emucentral Time: 2008-3-10 05:04 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2008-3-10 18:21
Is this thread the last sanctuary of the Westerners in China Daily?
Probably.
Any commentary on the self indulgence of a particular sicko, in his own personal section, is promptly deleted.
Funnily enough, he will write post after post which shown him to be quite disturbed, and then he goes and deletes the lot.
I can't understand his reasoning.
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-3-10 05:22 PM
is glasnost finally over?
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-10 05:30 PM
No. Glasnost is still on. You may say whatever you want. It only sometimes gets muted.
Author: raiden Time: 2008-3-10 05:38 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 2008-3-10 17:30
No. Glasnost is still on. You may say whatever you want. It only sometimes gets muted.
little ttcd boy has his own "carbonated curtain" he has been given with the "forum glasnost" CD's "priveleges" system allows
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-3-10 05:44 PM
Well if I am not allowed to defend idiotic assaults on a people then I reckon it a sign to get the h out, asap?
I have no interest in inane silly topics like your favorite color or bust size. And I am not going to stand for deliberate crap in my face neither.
Author: raiden Time: 2008-3-10 05:46 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2008-3-10 17:44
Well if I am not allowed to defend idiotic assaults on a people then I reckon it a sign to get the h out, asap?
I have no interest in inane silly topics like your favorite color or bust size. An ...
contacting CD's head chinees supervisor directly is the only hope
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-3-10 05:59 PM
raiden:
I decided some time ago not to pester old friends, especially when I know they read every damn thing I write!
I write so damn little anymore -- so goes life!
There is a change in the wind? Can you feel it or smell it? I take it as a sign -- and I am not ignored, of that I do know!
Author: raiden Time: 2008-3-10 06:00 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2008-3-10 17:59
raiden:
I decided some time ago not to pester old friends, especially when I know they read every damn thing I write!
I write so damn little anymore -- so goes life!
There is a change in t ...
oh yes
quite the change of wind..
far more than any google ads could muster
i sense the calm before the storm
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-3-10 06:18 PM
reply to raiden:
Oh well ... I am as resigned to fate as any of China's somber citizenry.
I miss chairman!
No one ever made me laugh so hard and so often, the best is behind us all it seems.
.
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-10 06:19 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2008-3-10 17:59
raiden:
I decided some time ago not to pester old friends, especially when I know they read every damn thing I write!
I write so damn little anymore -- so goes life!
There is a change in t ...
Yeah, we are watchin' ya, Thos!
Author: blueskies88 Time: 2008-3-10 06:46 PM
[TICKLES doberman]
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 08:58 PM Subject: Pity...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
fatdragon at 3/8/2008 12:09 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-7 00:38
It has been fun to see what words trip the filters nowadays - some are just down right funny.
Could we see some examples please?
One word, one post should keep them busy backstage. And don't forget to repost on the assumption that the system has lost your origional attempt.
If you have copied the original list - pm me and we can <C ENSOR ED>
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 09:03 PM Subject: Emu, Emu, Emu...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by emucentral at 3/10/2008 03:04 AM
Probably.
Any commentary on the self indulgence of a particular sicko, in his own personal section, is promptly deleted.
Funnily enough, he will write post after post which shown him to be quite disturbed, and then he goes and deletes the lot.
I can't understand his reasoning.
At this point, I would have figured that you would have realized that the Dear Doctor's point is just merely justifying his own existance - on his own terms.
Given some of the background material given, and from reading his somewhat limited prose, it appears that our Dear Doctor is an exiled party prince, somewhere in the United States. He has enough pull to play in his own sandbox - but not much else after that - given how the rest of the China Daily newspaper runs.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 09:06 PM Subject: But I digress,
I have a very good book of fiction that I would recommend to all the arm chair generals and political players at the BBS:
What If? The World's Foremost Military Historians Imagine What Might Have Been
Published in 1999 by G.P. Putman's Sons, New York ISBN 0-399-14576-1
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 10:59 PM Subject: An fasinating article is presented in the book
It is by Cecelia Holland, titled "The Death that Saved Europe - The Mongols Turn Back, 1242".
In a nutshell, had Sabotai, one of Genghis Khan's old generals, had not died in 1242 - after wiping out the armies of Eastern Europe - Western Europe would have went the way of Persia and the Middle East ten years later. It is a very interesting read.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 11:02 PM Subject: Another article in the book is...
... China without Tears by Arthur Waldron. Given the site I am on, I will not go into specifics - but if you can get ahold of the book, it will raise a few eyebrows.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 11:03 PM Subject: Which reminds me of some questions about the Maine...
... if it did not explode in Havana Harbor - but at sea or in U.S. waters.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 11:35 PM Subject: Looks like the African Question...
... is surfacing again in Europe. Looks like the next round of oil shenanigans is in full swing.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-10 11:43 PM Subject: Another tidbit from Africa...
... looks like the old croc is going to try to outlast Fidel.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-11 01:48 AM Subject: I have about given up on trying to find...
... threads where I have responded to certain posts and posters - too many post have gotten the chop lately. However, for the sake of agruement with canchin, and a couple of other posters, about the condition that Cuba is currently in - I would like to all to observe the following article about Cuban-Canadian relations - from that bastion of all things conservative - Political Affairs.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-11 09:35 AM Subject: Not bad mods...
... maybe in the near future I will be able to get back to posting photos again in bulk, no?
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-11 11:28 AM
USA - Cuba relations were stained with signum temporis. McCarthysm epoch dictated extremely antagonistic approach to Cuban revolution without getting into details. Cuba "had" to be viewed as "soviet threat" and policy makers were too blind and too stupid to have a look at Tito-Stalin relations and pull proper ideas.
Cuba revolution did not happen because aliens landed in paradise, but because the social condition in Cube was ripe, if not overripe for revolt. If USA policu makers would choose other way of approach = keeping relations , helping other more reasonable fractions of revolution, then with a bit of luck the rocket problem might have never happened. Of course all would not be too easy, SU surely would do all their best to alienate Cuba from the USA, but then the reality in proximity of USA + her economic power might prevail.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-11 08:37 PM Subject: Oh...
Fidel, Che, and the rest of the boys in Cuba had more than ax to grind with the U.S. - for various reasons. This conversation came about - because of the accusations that Cuba's economic mess was exclusively an American fault. When I mentioned the abudence of Cuban cigars in Canada - somebody had a hissy fit. So I found the Cuba-Canada article - to show that countries can have normal relations with the rest of the world, sans the US.
From what I can see - the Cubans buttered their bread, now they can eat it.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-11 08:39 PM Subject: Cuba...
... would the old Fidel allowed the younger Fidel to live? Anymore than the old Mao would brand the younger Mao a reactionary, right before he was shot?
Author: emucentral Time: 2008-3-11 08:50 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by blueskies88 at 2008-3-10 20:46
[TICKLES doberman]
Careful you don't tickle too much.
Those dogs can BITE !
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 08:57 AM Subject: Sez you!
I have seen my mother spoil all sorts of "mean dogs" and turn them into big babies.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:00 AM Subject: Well folks, it looks like the road to the Olympics...
... is going to be a bit bumpy. To be nice to the hosts - I will merely say it appears there was an incident with some "U-Women".
Just hope it was a case of jumpy local officals trying to @$$ lick the folks in Beijing during the NPC.
If not... aw $#!+
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-12 10:54 AM Subject: Political fiction book
The cauldron, by Colin Forbes.
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-12 10:57 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-11 20:37
From what I can see - the Cubans buttered their bread, now they can eat it.
Yes. Every nation butters their bread. And sooner or later they have to eat it.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:06 PM Subject: Speaking of Bread and Butter...
QUOTE:
Originally posted by doberman at 3/11/2008 08:57 PM
Yes. Every nation butters their bread. And sooner or later they have to eat it.
... here is a song from the early days of rock and roll:
Bread And Butter by THE NEWBEATS
(Written by Larry Parks & Jay Turnbow)
I like bread and butter,
I like toast and jam,
Thats what my baby feeds me,
Im her loving man.
He likes bread and butter,
He likes toast and jam,
Thats what his baby feeds him,
Hes her loving man.
She dont cook mashed potatoes,
She dont cook T-bone steaks,
Dont feed me peanut butter,
She knows that I cant take.
He likes bread and butter,
He likes toast and jam,
Thats what his baby feeds him,
Hes her loving man.
Got home early one morning,
Much to my surprise,
She was eating chicken and dumplings
With some other guy.
No more bread and butter,
No more toast and jam,
I found my baby eating
With some other man.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:08 PM Subject: Hm... somebody did not like the post about...
Chinese and Isrealli cooperation? Maybe the Dear Doctor and the usual gang of forumites are still trying, poorly, to cling to their idea of "Z-men"?
Google Tel Aviv University Chinese Embassy to see the story, and judge for yourself about N.W.O. theories.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:09 PM Subject: Speaking of Z man rants...
... here is another classic gem from the American Free Press:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:10 PM Subject: And a good article on the Obama Harper gaffe...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:11 PM Subject: For Chinese Doctors travelling in Germany...
... this article may be for you:
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:13 PM Subject: Looks like there was another...
... shake up with the South Africa Communists...
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 09:15 PM Subject: For any teacher in China...
... please take note of the following story and relay it to your colleagues and students - this is definitely new waters.
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Ryerson student faces expulsion over Facebook
Online study group raises new questions
By THE CANADIAN PRESS - March 11, 2008
A first-year engineering student accused of cheating through an online study group was expected to face the music Tuesday at a widely watched expulsion hearing that raises new questions about modern communication methods and academic honesty.
Supporters of Chris Avenir, 18, argue the Facebook study group he ran was no different from any kind of homework help or tutoring circle, but Ryerson University officials accused him of going too far with the exhortation to input solutions to assignment problems.
A faculty appeal committee hearing the case Tuesday was expected to decide on a punishment ¡ª which could be as harsh as expulsion ¡ª within five business days.
At Avenirs request, the hearing was to be closed to outsiders, a university spokeswoman said. On his way in to the hearing Avenir said he hopes the academic charges will be dropped and his name will be cleared.
Last term, Avenir became administrator of the online group Dungeons/Mastering Chemistry Solutions, which he initially joined to get help with homework. In all, 147 classmates used the group to swap tips on assignments that counted for 10 per cent of their mark.
What appears to have snared Avenir was the groups main page, which read: If you request to join, please use the forms to discuss/post solutions to the chemistry assignments. Please input your solutions if they are not already posted.
A professor, who had stipulated the assignments be done independently, discovered the group, gave the B student an F, then charged him with academic misconduct.
The charge ignited a fierce debate that echoed around the wired world about whether the university, which prides itself on cutting-edge, interactive learning, was in fact acting like a Luddite or whether dishonesty was hiding out on the electronic frontier.
Avenirs case sparked a host of support groups ¡ª among them www.chrisdidntcheat.com, with offers of premium T-shirts and hats for US$19.99 bearing Chris Didnt Cheat as a slogan and proceeds ostensibly going to defray his legal fees.
Bloggers were mostly scathing of Ryersons actions.
Is it our fault that schools are so antiquated they dont understand that Facebook is like a virtual study hall or dorm room or any other place we would all normally study? Davin Carey, a student at San Diego State, wrote in one post.
In another post on the Facebook group Support Chris Avenir, Ryerson student Matt Boyle called the schools action an outrage.
How is this any different from a study group in the library or something? Boyle said. I dont see the school policing those.
Dissenters, although fewer and further between, suggested that posting online answers did in fact constitute cheating, and that arguing in-person cheating also occurs is no excuse.
What Facebook has changed, said Fred Stutzman, a doctorate student of social networks at the University of North Carolina, is the open record it leaves, making it easier to gather evidence of academic dishonesty.
Cheating is cheating and collaboration is collaboration. Because theres a virtual environment, that doesnt change the definition of any of these constructs that weve written into law or society, Stutzman said from Chapel Hill, N.C.
The problem here is that this is going to have a serious chilling effect on these very interesting opportunities for learning and collaboration that the virtual environment affords.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 10:00 PM Subject: This is from a gentlemen...
... that has been a solid Clinton supporter in the past - so can tell you how bad Hillary has fowled up her own supporters - let alone the rest of the country
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Meet Hillary Nixon
by Jack Lessenberry - Detroit Metro Times - 3/12/2008
Whatever else this campaign has done, it has revealed the real Hillary Clinton.
So is Barack Obama a Muslim? Thats the question 60 Minutes Steve Croft put to Hillary Clinton, in an interview aired just before her candidacy was brought back from the dead by her solid primary victories last week.
What should her answer have been?
Something like: Of course not, Steve. Hes a member of the United Church of Christ, and anyway, what difference does it make? Every one in this race is a loyal American. This is not about religion. This is about who is best prepared to be president.
Thats not, however, how Hillary Rodham Nixon works.
I take him [Obama] on the basis of what he says, she said instead. You could hear the nasty little wheels spinning: One slip, and she could be facing a lifetime as a mere aging U.S. senator, worrying about getting money for a war memorial in Syracuse.
If her fangs flashed too brightly, she might be toast. So she continued talking, looking for a spot where she could slip in the stiletto. I take him on the basis of what he says, and, you know, there isnt really any reason to doubt that.
Those were clever words; denying that he was a Muslim in words designed to stir doubt. Good, but not quite enough. And then she saw her moment and the knife flashed.
No, he was not a Muslim ... As far as I know.
One of the best TV reporters in this town, a man with many years experience, told me, That was truly Nixonian. And thats exactly what it was. Somewhere in the cosmic muck, whatever passed for Richard Nixons soul had to be quivering in ecstasy. Yes, Tricky Dick ¡ª who spent his early career learning and refining the art of character assassination ¡ª has a disciple. Someone just as ruthless, unlikable and nasty as he always was.
Whatever else this campaign has done, it has revealed the real Hillary Clinton. Yes, she is intelligent. But she is also virtually impossible to like, especially if you look at what is really there.
Two women in their 60s who defended her all through the years of slimy attacks told me last week that they were through. I cant vote for her if she is the nominee, one said.
I cant even stand to see her speak, said the other, a well-known attorney, after Hillary Clinton said John Hundred Years War McCain was better prepared than Barack Obama.
That doesnt mean that Clintons gutter tactics were the only reason Obama lost decisively in Ohio and narrowly in Texas, a state that everyone felt could go either way.
Sooner or later, the breaks and the press were bound to go against the new kid on the block. There are signs that Obama was a bit too confident. And she has far more skill at knife fighting than he does.
Obama seemed totally caught off-guard when the story broke that he was allegedly not really going to demand changes in NAFTA (according to a leak from somebody in the Canadian government, based on some highly dubious chitchat from an Obama adviser).
What he should have done is pointed out that the North American Free Trade Agreement was negotiated by none other than Hillary Clintons husband, though she now would like you to think she had always been against it. This is significant, because she likes to pretend she had a major share in making virtually any other major decision in Bill Clintons administration.
Apparently, however, she just happened to be baking cookies or watching the red phone when the NAFTA deal went down. She should have been called on this, but frankly, winning Ohio was probably never in the cards for Obama to begin with. It is a very odd state.
Ohioans tend to be distrustful of charm and charisma and anything intellectual. John F. Kennedy found that out, to his bitter amazement, when huge crowds of Buckeyes came out to cheer him ¡ª and then voted for Richard M. Nixon by a landslide.
They are solidly Republican, and even the Democrats tend to be blue-collar, conservative types. Clinton was the Republican in this race, and indeed, she drew a large crossover vote.
Newspaper editors in Ohio told me that some precincts ran out of Democratic ballots. Republicans were voting, and voting for her. They think they know how to beat her in November. They dont have a playbook for running against this new kind of candidate.
That doesnt mean Obama didnt have appeal. Four years ago, John Kerry won Ohios primary with 632,590 votes. In losing this time, Barack Obama got far more than that ¡ª 982,489. But Clinton got an overwhelming 1.2 million.
Texas was much closer, and Obama apparently ended up with more delegates. But in the long run, the Ohio primarys biggest impact may be on two other states ¡ª Florida and Michigan ¡ª because it made having a second vote essential.
Why Michigan now has to vote again: Heres what last weeks Clinton victories really mean: Without Michigan and Florida, neither candidate can reach a majority before the convention. Nor is either liable to drop out before the primary process is through.
Whats more, no matter what happens, the Obama forces are likely to go to the convention with more pledged delegates. If so, they will never vote to seat the now-disqualified Michigan and Florida delegates. Especially not those from Michigan, where Obamas name wasnt even on the ballot.
So they have to do it again. Practically speaking, the best possibility would be a firehouse primary, a caucus that is privately run by the Democratic Party and which looks like a primary. Thats what the Democrats did here four years ago.
Ironically, the states ham-handed party leaders could now end up getting what they wanted in the first place. By being almost the last major state to choose delegates, they could have more influence over picking the nominee than ever before. Far more, that is, than if the party had allowed them to go first.
What a system ... and what a country.
This weeks Kwame Moment in History: Actually happened three days ago, when the Free Press dropped the long-rumored other shoe. Further mining of the infamous text messages showed a pattern of awarding city contracts and giving secret insider information to his good buddy Bobby Ferguson. (The messages themselves make The Sopranos look like good citizens.)
Bobby is a lovely fellow who was sentenced to 10 months in the slam in 2005 for pistol-whipping and permanently disabling one of his employees. But he remained Kwame and Christines good friend, or as he put in his text messages, bruh.
When more public money was available to spend, Ferguson texted Beatty, Dont FORGET ABOUT YOUR BRUH.
Never, replied the sex goddess of the Kwame Era.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but if the text messages the Free Press published are true ¡ª and no one has denied them ¡ª it wont be enough to demand that Kilpatrick resign.
This guy clearly belongs in prison. With his bruhs, naturally.
Jack Lessenberry opines weekly for Metro Times. Contact him at letters (at) metrotimes com
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-12 11:52 PM Subject: As quietly as it slipped in...
... it quietly slips out.
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Stealth Bomber Slips Into History
DAYTON, Ohio, March 11, 2008
(AP) The worlds first attack aircraft to employ stealth technology is slipping quietly into history.
The inky black, angular, radar-evading F-117, which spent 27 years in the Air Force arsenal secretly patrolling hostile skies from Serbia to Iraq, will be put in mothballs next month in Nevada.
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, which manages the F-117 program, will have an informal, private retirement ceremony Tuesday with military leaders, base employees and representatives from Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico.
The last F-117s scheduled to fly will leave Holloman on April 21, stop in Palmdale, Calif., for another retirement ceremony, then arrive on April 22 at their final destination: Tonopah Test Range Airfield in Nevada, where the jet made its first flight in 1981.
The government has no plans to bring the fighter out of retirement, but could do so if necessary.
Im happy to hear they are putting it in a place where they could bring it back if they ever needed it, said Brig. Gen. Gregory Feest, the first person to fly an F-117 in combat, during the 1989 invasion of Panama that led to the capture of dictator Manuel Noriega.
The Air Force decided to accelerate the retirement of the F-117s to free up funding to modernize the rest of the fleet. The F-117 is being replaced by the F-22 Raptor, which also has stealth technology.
Fifty-nine F-117s were made; 10 were retired in December 2006 and 27 since then, the Air Force said. Seven of the planes have crashed, one in Serbia in 1999.
Stealth technology used on the F-117 was developed in the 1970s to help evade enemy radar. While not invisible to radar, the F-117s shape and coating greatly reduced its detection.
The F-117, a single-seat aircraft, was designed to fly into heavily defended areas undetected and drop its payloads with surgical precision.
A total of 558 pilots have flown the F-117 since it went operational. They dub themselves bandits, with each given a bandit number after their first flight.
Feest, who is Bandit 261, also led the first stealth fighter mission into Iraq during Desert Storm in 1991. He said the fire from surface-to-air missiles and anti-aircraft guns was so intense that he stopped looking at it to try to ease his fears.
We knew stealth worked and it would take a lucky shot to hit us, but we knew a lucky shot could hit us at any time, he said.
Incredibly, not one stealth was hit during those missions, he said.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 01:02 AM Subject: It looks like some changes are coming...
... hope they are for the best
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States pledge to throw out Malay race-bias policy
Malaysias opposition announced plans to dismantle race-based discrimination policies and warned the government not to sabotage the transition of power as it prepared to rule in five states.
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
Malaysias opposition announced plans to dismantle race-based discrimination policies and warned the government not to sabotage the transition of power as it prepared to rule in five states.
After a stunning weekend election performance that seized a third of parliamentary seats and four new states from the ruling coalition, an opposition figure was sworn in yesterday as chief minister in Penang.
Lim Guan Eng, head of the Democratic Action Party which is a part of a three-member opposition alliance, immediately targeted positive discrimination policies for Muslim Malays who dominate the nations population.
We want to run the state government administration free from the New Economic Policy that only breeds cronyism, corruption and systematic inefficiency, he said.
Instead, we advocate a stakeholders economy for all, based on the principle of shared prosperity in an equitable manner.
The New Economic Policy was introduced in the early 1970s to bridge the wealth gap with ethnic Chinese who dominate business, by giving Malays advantages in education, housing and business.
It was one of the factors behind a flight by ethnic Chinese and Indian voters in weekend polls, which deprived the ruling Barisan Nasional coalition of a two-thirds majority in parliament for the first time in four decades.
Penang, styled as Malaysias Silicon Valley, is the only Chinese- majority state and is home to the manufacturing operations of electronic giants such as Intel and Sony.
The opposition, led by Anwar Ibrahim who represents the Keadilan party, also took the states of Kedah, Perak and Selangor. The Islamic party PAS already ruled Kelantan in the north.
Anwar also targeted the discrimination policy, saying in opposition- ruled states it would be sidelined in favour of a new merit-based program aimed at the needy irrespective of race.
This will immediately increase foreign investment, improve the states tax revenue and begin to promote more equity and income parity, he said.
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 01:05 AM Subject: Hm... come to think of it...
... this reminds of the adage of becoming your own worst enemy by employing the tactics of the enemy.
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 01:32 AM Subject: Note to forumites about certain threads...
... written by certain forumites:
Look at the number of posts in this thread - along with who posted. Check the poster history.
If it is written by a poster that has been with the BBS for years, but has less than 50 posts, and has been responded to one of the usualy gang of forumites - then it is a trap to start another flame war!
Do not fall for it - avoid them at all costs!
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 01:51 AM Subject: So...
How much does the average joe pay in taxes in China?
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 03:01 AM Subject: And now for something completely different...
... from the music section of the UK Guardian!
blogs guardian co uk music 2008 03 china_rocks html
www guardian co uk arts video 2008 mar 11 pipa.player
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 03:55 AM Subject: Funny Cartoon
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Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 03:56 AM Subject: Another Funny Cartoon
Kind of sums up the attitude in America over the whole missle command issue.
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Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-13 10:43 AM
Interesting digest Trader.
However the graphs of the haraj for gmnt mafia and social security looks somwhow strange for Poles.
Because it shows that an average Pole is taxed 7%, (?)
The lowest step of state racketeering is 19% and then there are higer tax of anything above the certain threshold. It is known that from a boss/company budget to employ 1 worker some (approximatelly) 40-45% is going to waste and only 55-60% gets to the employee pocket.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 10:48 AM Subject: To paraphrase Gil Scott Heron:
You will be able to stay home, tune in, and zone out.
You will lose yourself in the slogans, hype, and spin.
Because the revolution will be televised.
The Revolution with be brought to you by Microsoft and Apple in multiple downloads for 99 cents a view.
The revolution will show you pictures of Mitt, John, Rudy, Obama, and Hilary dancing a tune in Harlem.
The revolution will be televised.
The Revolution will be brought to you by CNN/FOX/BET and will star Al Sharpton and Don Imus.
The Revolution will ooze with sex appeal, riding on 22 Inch Hubs, and will look much thinner that before.
The Revolution will be televised.
There will be pictures of you and your Aunt Elie May, denied entering a polling place.
There will be replays of ¡°War-Pigs Have the Power.¡±
There will be replays of ¡°War-Pigs Have the Power.¡±
There will be pictures of George Bush flown out of Washington on a plane with a brand new pardon.
There will be pictures of Richard Cheney walking with his shotgun that he had been saving for just the proper occasion.
American Idol, Entertainment Tonight, and Monday Night Football with still be too damn relevant, and women will still care if Angela is getting Brad because all people will still be viewing the television.
The revolution with be televised.
There will be highlights 24 hours a day, with pictures heavy armed Americans and Beyonce blowing her nose. The theme song will be written by Jay-Z, Master P, and Rick Rubin.
The revolution will be televised.
The revolution will be right back after a message from your local station, your state sponsor, from your big brother. The revolution will be all, end all, and be at close out prices. And yet, the revolution will put you into debt.
The Revolution will be televised, pasteurized, and ribbed for someone else¡¯s pleasure. There will be re-runs ¨C because the revolution will be televised.
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 10:51 AM Subject: Got to remember Doberman...
... single person with no kids, earning an average income.
[ Last edited by tradervic at 2008-3-12 09:54 PM ]
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 10:54 AM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-13 10:51
... single person with no kids was used as the average.
Yeah, Doberman can be found in Milky Way Galaxy.
That's a fact isn't it?
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 10:55 AM
<chuckle>
btw, TV, your picture wasn't taken by a three-year old kid by any chance?
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 10:56 AM Subject: Hm... DD?
Looks like the game is about to begin...
... to bad I am going to bed.
Good Night folks!
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 11:06 AM
No need to be kekeqiqi.
You are good -- as in a good turtle.
Long long life to the turtle.
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 11:09 AM
It's just fair isn't it?
Hosting a friend like you from afar is a happy occasion.
Therefore I am delighted to be invited here.
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 11:16 AM
Wonderful
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 11:20 AM
I looked through the meds. Not for DM. They are for psychosis.
Author: doberman Time: 2008-3-13 11:38 AM
>>>Got to remember Doberman...
... single person with no kids, earning an average income.<<<
Yes, Trader. Single person , no kids, average income is taxed minimum 19% ( not includining any social stuff). Not 7% as shown.
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>>>Yeah, Doberman can be found in Milky Way Galaxy.
That's a fact isn't it? <<<
No, the fact is 19% and not celestial 7%.
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Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 11:54 AM
Don't blame him.
Blame TV, not the one in the junkyard.
Author: schmidt2008 Time: 2008-3-13 12:31 PM
In front of the attic.
Author: twotobe Time: 2008-3-13 12:34 PM
QUOTE:
Originally posted by
tradervic at 2008-3-13 10:56
Looks like the game is about to begin...
... to bad I am going to bed.
Good Night folks!
Take ur picture with u
Author: tradervic Time: 2008-3-13 09:55 PM Subject: Hm...
Got this when I went to add some color and bolding to a certain post.
You do not have permission to edit other's posting or delete a post which has been replied, please return.
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